 Yeah, I'd say for me, it's really the power of the better together. To me, it's nobody's great apart. It takes really an ecosystem of players to work together for the customer benefit. And the one that we've demonstrated at the VMware with NetApp plus VMware has been a powerful one for well over 17 years. And the proofs and the pudding in terms of the joint customers that have a ton of loyalty to both of us. And they want us just to work it out. So whether you're allegiance on one side of the Kubernetes battle or another, or you're on one side of anyone's storage choice or another, I think the customers want NetApp and VMware to work its out and come up with solutions. And we've done that. And now wait for the second act of this to come out. We'll start that tomorrow. To me, it starts from what the customer would like to do. And what we're seeing from customers is it's increasingly a multi-cloud world that expands private cloud, public cloud, and ed. You're smiling when you say that. Chaos is an opportunity. Yeah, but it's a challenge for customers. And so if you look at how VMware is trying to help there, let me sort of square the circle. I think the first piece is this idea of consistent operations, that we have these management tools that you can use to consistently operate those environments, whether they're based on a VMware-based infrastructure or whether they're based on a native cloud infrastructure. So if you look at our cloud health platform, for example, it's a great example where that service can help you get visibility to your cloud spend across different cloud platforms, also vSphere-based platforms, that can help you reduce that spend over time. So that's sort of what we refer to as consistent operations, which can span any cloud. What my team is responsible for is more in the consistent infrastructure space. And that's really all about how do we deliver consistent compute network and storage service that spans on-prem multiple public clouds and edge. So that's really where we're bringing that same VMware cloud foundation stack to all those different environments. You know, the networking folks and networking was always relegated to being the underlay or the plumbing. Now what's becoming important is that the applications are making their intent aware to the network. And the intent is becoming aware. As the intent becomes aware, we networking people know what to do in the SD-WAN layer, which then shields all the intricacies of what needs to get done in the underlay. So to put it in very simple terms, the container is what really drives the need. And what we're doing is we're building the outcome to satisfy that need. Now containers are critical because as Pat was saying, you know, all of the new digital applications are going to be built with containers in mind. So the reason we call it client to cloud to containers because the containers can literally be anywhere. You know, we're talking about them being in the private cloud and in the public cloud. They could be right next to where the client is because of the edge cloud. They could be in the telco network, which is the telco cloud. So between these four clouds, you literally have a network of these containers and the underlying infrastructure that we are doing is to provide that SD-WAN layer that'll get the containers to talk to one another as well as to talk to the clients that are getting access to those applications. Yeah, I mean, more than McAfee, I think, you know, it's sort of, you think of the analog to cloud security is data center security, where you think of this sort of Amazon cloud living in an Amazon data center, and you know, how can we protect the data and the egress access into those cloud and you know, same technology sort of apply. But to your point that you sort of just touched upon, it's that cloud is not living in isolation, right? First of all, that Amazon cloud is connected to a whole bunch of, you know, applications that are still sitting in a data center, right? So they are potentially not moving the Oracle database to a data center. They're moving some workloads to the cloud, right? That's what most companies are. Hey, guess what? There's all these end points that are connecting. They're connecting both the data center and the cloud. You're not going to proxy to the cloud to get to the data center. So there is gateways. So to me, cloud security can't be an isolated, you know, sort of technology that companies have to sort of think about. Now, is there an opportunity to leverage the cloud to manage security better and get visibility on your security environment? So do security analytics? Absolutely. So I think to me, that's where it's going because security, I think, has been proven is no longer, you know, sort of one single thing. It's just, you have to do multiple things. Every time I go talk to CISOs, they tell me they got this technology. I said, hey, wait a minute, you have 20. Did you cut down any? Yeah, we cut down a few, but you know, they're just nervous about cutting down too much because of that one piece of software catch. It's almost like an insurance policy. So look, I mean, I think, again, we're kind of really evolving our strategic aims. You know, historically, we've looked at how do we really virtualize an entire data center, right? This concept of the software-defined data center, really automating all that and driving great speed efficiency increases. And now, as we've been talking about, we're in this world where you kind of STDCs everywhere, right? On-prem and the cloud, different public clouds. And so how do you really manage across all those? And these are the things we've been talking about. So the cloud marketplace fits into that whole concept in the sense that now we can give people one place to go to get easy access to both software and solutions from our partners as well as open-source solutions. And these are things that come from the Bitnami acquisition that we recently did. So the idea here is that we can all make it super simple for customers to become aware of the different solutions to drive those consistent operations that exist on top of our platform and with our partners and then make it really easy for them to consume those as well. I think we've really broadened and expanded our reach over the last 10 years. It used to be we were known primarily for our sports programming. So now we have inclusive education and health programs and we're able to bring together people with and without intellectual disabilities through those mediums. So we provide resources to schools and education and they run special Olympics programming during the school day. So educators want to have us because we're improving school campuses, reducing bullying, enhancing social and emotional learning. And so the work that we're doing is so critical with that community. And then the area of health, we have inclusive health. So now we've got health and medical professionals that are now providing health screenings for our athletes. So some of the younger volunteers that we get that are wanting to make a career in the medical field, they're exposed to our population, right? And so they learn more about their specific health needs. So it's really about changing people's attitudes. And so this community of supporters, volunteers, health professionals, education, really our goal is to change people's attitudes fundamentally worldwide about people with intellectual disabilities and really kind of produce inclusive mindsets, we call it, really promote understanding. And so now that the roadmap that was shared in terms of what VMware looks to do to integrate containers into the ESXi platform itself, it's managing VMs and containers next to each other, that's perfect. In terms of not having customers have to pick or choose between which platform and where you're going to deploy something, allow them to say you can deploy it on whichever format you want, it runs in the same ecosystem in management and then that trickles down to your storage layer. So we do a lot of object storage within the container ecosystems today, a lot of high performance objects because the file sizes of instances or applications is much larger than a document file that you or I might create online. So there's a big need around performance in that space along with, again, management at scale. The whole multi-cloud, hybrid cloud movement, what's going on now at the enterprise, your perspective on kind of where we are in that shift, if you will, or that transformation and what's driving it, what's creating all the bugs? You get that question a lot, right? People ask the what ending are we in question? It's a regular. So what ending are we in? Well, I would say a couple of years ago, people said, I don't think that, I think the national anthem is still being played kind of thing, you know? And I think the game has probably started now, but I still were thinking we're very early innings. And I think I'd actually bring it up to even a higher level and talk about what's happening in terms of how companies are thinking about digital transformation. And what I think is happening is it's becoming a board level priority for companies. They can't afford to ignore it. Digital is changing the basis for competitive advantage in most industries around the globe. And so they're investing in digital transformation and I think they're going to do that, frankly, independent of whatever macroeconomic climate we operate in. And so, and I think the big driving force probably in digital transformation today or through the cloud. And so, and what we're seeing is there's a particular architecture of choice that's emerging for customers. And I think you hit the nail on the head. Networking has changed. It's no longer about speeds and feeds. It's about availability and simplicity. And so Dell and VMware I think are uniquely positioned to deliver a level of automation where this stuff just works. I don't need to go and configure these magic boxes individually. I want to just write a line of code where my infrastructure is built into the CI CD pipeline and then when I deploy a workload, it just works. I don't need an army of people to go figure that out. And I think that's the power of what we're working together to unleash. 15 minutes. So that was pretty dramatic moment of truth when we deployed Datrium and we started the imaging process and it was finished and to be honest, I thought that is broken, but it actually was that fast. So gave us a tremendous amount of ability to deploy and manage and do the work during the workday instead of working after hours. And what were you doing for data protection before Datrium? We use a variety of different solutions, backups, disk to tape and a variety of services that actually backed up our data. And you still do? No, we've given that a lot. You swept the floor of all the legacy stuff, you got rid of that. Did you have to change your processes or what was that like? Was that painful? We have to get rid of a lot of processes that were focused on backup, focused on a time that it took to manage backup with Datrium. Datrium didn't have the backup from the day one. This is something that they've designed I think a second year and that was very different to see the company that deals with storage, creating such an innovative vision for developing a roadmap that was actually coming true with every iteration of the software deployment. So the second tier that we provisioned was the snapshots. And the snapshots that were incredibly fast that didn't take a lot of space that gave us ability to restore almost instantly gave us a huge amount of focus on not focusing on the storage anymore. Well, since we're here at VMworld, VMworld has about 70 million workloads. I think it's actually bigger than the public cloud, right? You'd correct me if I'm wrong, right? Yeah, I mean, look, I'm prems way bigger than the public cloud, right? No question. Exactly, and what's happening, of course, is the line. I'm going faster, sorry, but it's much easier. The line is blurring between what's a public cloud, what's a hybrid cloud, multi-cloud edge. And so, look, our opportunity is to really make all that go away for customers and allow them to choose and express our unique value add in whatever form the customer wants to use it. So you've seen us align with all the public clouds. You're seeing us take steps in the edge. We're continuing to improve the on-premise systems with project dimension. Now it's the VMware cloud on Dell EMC that we're managing for you. And it's on demand, it's consumption, and it's consumed just like a public cloud. I spend about 50% of my time talking to these customers. So we learn a lot. And here are the four big challenges they're facing. First is the explosion of data. Data is just growing so fast. Gardner estimates there'll be 175 zettabytes of data in 2025. If you crammed that into iPhones, it would take 2.6 trillion iPhones and go to the sun and back, right? It's an enormous amount of data. Second, they're worried about ransomware. It's not a question of if you'll be attacked, it's when you'll be attacked. Look at what's happening in Texas right now with the 22 municipalities dealing with that. What you want in that case is a resilient infrastructure you want to be able to restore from a really good backup copy of data. Third, they want the hybrid multi-cloud world just like Pat Gelsinger has been talking about. That's what customers want, but they want to be able to protect their data wherever it is, make it highly available and get insights in their data wherever it's located. And then finally, they're dealing with this massive growth in government regulations around the world because of this concern about privacy. I was in Australia a few weeks ago and one of our customers, she was telling me that she deals with 27 different regulatory environments. Another customer was saying the California Privacy Act will be the death of him. And he's based in St. Louis, right? So our strategy is focused on taking away the complexity and helping the largest companies in the world deal with these challenges. And that's why we introduce the Enterprise Data Services Platform and that's why we're here at VMworld talking. Is Kubernetes the technology enabler? I mean, TCPIP was that in the old networking days. It enabled a lot of shifts in the industry. You were part of that wave. Is Kubernetes that disruptive enabler? Yeah, I really see it as one of those key transition points in the industry. And as I sort of joked, if my name was Scott and we were 20 years ago, I'd be banging the table calling it Java. And Java defined enterprise software development for two decades. And by the way, Scott's my neighbor. He's down the hill. So I look down on Mr. McNeely. I always don't like that. It looks up to you. But it changed how people did enterprise software development for the last two decades. And Kubernetes has that same kind of transformative effect. But maybe even more important, it's not just development, but also operations. And I think that's what we're uniquely bringing together with Project Pacific, really being able to bridge those two worlds together. So if we deliver on this, I think it is the next decade or two will be the center of innovation for us how we bridge those two worlds together and really give developers what they need and make it operator friendly out of the box across the history to the future. This is pretty powerful. Yeah. So this conference is, I think a refreshing return to form. So VMware is, as you say, this is an operators conference and VMware is for operators. It's not for devs. There was a period there where cloud was scary and it was all this cloud native stuff. And VMware tried to appeal to this new market and I guess tried to dress up and as something that it really wasn't. And it didn't pull it off. And we didn't, it didn't feel right. And now VMware has decided that, well, no, actually this is what VMware is about. And no one can be more VMware than VMware. So it's returning to being its best self. And I think we're seeing that this year. I can't software, they know software. They know software. So the addition of putting Project Tanzu in and having Kubernetes in there and it's to operate the software. So it's going to be in there and apps will run on it. And they want to have Kubernetes baked into vSphere so that now, yeah, we'll have new apps and yeah, they might be SaaS apps for the people who are consuming them but they've got to run somewhere and now we could run them on VMware. Whether it's onsite at the edge, could be in the cloud, you're VMware on AWS. You have options.