 and welcome back to news on the fight over whether to keep the filibuster well that continues once again in the Senate while Senators Kristen Sinema and Joe Manchin have voiced their support to keep the filibuster according to a recent report from our partners at Justin News from Nick Balacy that number may increase by one more Democratic senator take a look Arizona senator Kirsten Sinema is opposed to eliminating the legislative filibuster which is the 60 vote threshold for legislation to advance in the Senate just the news asked Arizona Senator Mark Kelly where he stands on the issue I served in the Navy for 25 years I've been here about six months and the United States Senate you know doesn't function like any other organization ever seen not very efficient have you said that I'll look at you know any proposal and evaluate it not based on what's in the best interest of just Democrats but what's in the best interest of Democrats Republicans country all right and joining us I'm now to weigh in on this and so much more is former Obama campaign director Robin Byro and CEO and founder of the stock swoosh Melissa Armo thank you both for joining us here on this Monday so Robin let's start with you what do you think of Kelly's response obviously not an endorsement when it comes to the Senate to say the least but is it potentially in the interest of the American people regardless of which party you affiliate with to keep the filibuster intact in your opinion yes I think that we do need to keep the filibuster intact I've examined this I've talked to colleagues and peers and the great legal minds and there really is not a efficient way to do away with this and Democrats my party hear me out if we do away with this it's going back and haunt us later because it can be used against us if and when we lose a majority so it's not a good idea but I do think we should go back to a talking filibuster I think they should have to work for it and earn it it worked for what over a hundred years we got rid of it just a couple decades ago go back to the talking filibuster but I have to say before I go congratulations to Senator Mark Kelly for calling it like it is the Senate is broken and it does not function as smoothly as our military there you go all right Melissa and wait before you do that Robin are you referring to like the days when was it Dr. Seuss that Ted Cruz was reading once was that it sure the idea of the talking filibuster is that they are supposed to voice their opposition now it was abused by some senators who did read talk with the Dr. Seuss books but the idea is to sit to stand there not leave your post and actually work for that filibuster not just email it in Miranda okay I didn't know if you were just a big fan of the Dr. Seuss books I just wanted to clarify that of course I'm joking Melissa but in all seriousness what is your response to what what Kelly had to say and do you believe like what Robin does that this will the pendulum will swing and it will basically come back to bite Democrats and that you know where when Republicans do take back the Senate in the House well his answer really was a non answer he didn't want to commit to anything but Robin and I agree in this issue Robin and I agree on many things despite the fact there were different political sides of the aisle which is very interesting why because we're both moderates at the end of the day and I think most of the American people are moderates too and so you know you can't have when you have one party control where it seems like we've had that almost right now I mean it's if that's what it feels like you have to have people making the arguments and a lot of times the American people do want to hear what their senators and congressmen say and have to say I mean I think that it has to be open for debate so that's my opinion on it yes sometimes it may be mismanaged but at the end of the day I think it will come back to bite them because you're not going to have a democratic control forever yeah and Melissa I think it's interesting you say that because going back you know a while ago I remember a news director talking to us as reporters and saying try not to always show the one extreme or the other sides because most of Americans fit somewhere in the middle so I think you bring up a good point there Robin do you think more Democrats however will come out in support of the filibuster do you think they will I mean as she mentioned she didn't think Mark Kelly was necessarily giving a affirmative answer one way or the other yeah that that did sound pretty wishy washy to me but I appreciated his anecdotal story about how you know having served and I believe it was the Navy that he doesn't he hasn't seen any organization function as badly as the Senate does I'm glad to hear somebody actually voice that I don't think that we're gonna see many more Democrats jump on board with this I think that we should see much many more of them though go advocate for the talking filibuster if you'll recall in his first presidential address as president Joe Biden president Biden a call for a return to the talking filibuster I hope that we have more discussion about that I think it might be interesting Melissa could chime in here real quick that Biden of all people would call for the talking of the filibuster but I'll leave it there because we do have to move on so on the topic of Democrats many concerned about their infrastructure plan and what it could change when it comes to the suburbs because what the new bipartisan deal is void of affordable housing some worried Democrats could use the reconciliation bill to force through a more far left if you will agenda that may bring unwanted changes to the American suburbs so former New York lieutenant governor to help address this point Betsy McCoy explained that concern to our very own John Solomon during his podcast take a listen you know people spend a lifetime dreaming that they're gonna have a home with a plot of lawn around it quarter acre half acre whatever it is or they can let their kids play on the lawn go out and mow the lawn it's a way of life yeah and the Biden administration wants to eliminate that their message is you can't have that unless everybody can have that so unless you have multi family unit you know some sort of apartment building on the same street in the same neighborhood not the same town because all towns now have areas oh sure apartment dwellers you know but no that's not good enough for them they want to put bus lines on all the little streets and that's gonna change the way of life and it's not just they're they're trying to make it a racial issue but people of all ethnicities dream of having a single family home that's not a white thing that's that's a way of life it's an American way of life Melissa I'm interested to hear what you had to say having grown up and the suburbs of Kansas love to hear your thoughts on that but anyways I want to speak to this because this is happening in New York it's happening in New York right now there's two specific spots in New York I want to talk about right on billionaire's row right next to the Park Hyatt the brand new Park Hyatt the city has zoned and they were fighting this the residents of this building were fighting this they're putting in a homeless shelter the values of those properties now have gone downhill that's what's gonna happen if they end up doing this not only will affect some of the safety issues but it's gonna affect the property values which is gonna hurt people and people are gonna be very upset about that as well also there's another let me ask you real quick cuz we're tying on time what's specific in this bill because I didn't hear Betsy McCoy name something specific what specifically in this bill could make that happen well I guess they're changing the zoning I guess they're changing the zoning they're zoning that they want these multifamily homes that are basically apartment units that they want to be able to be in nice areas like what I was gonna say with Hudson Yards I grew up in an apartment related got a tax break for a malt to build a multifamily unit which is brand brand new okay many these are dilapidated in the city to be in that area well that again isn't what some of the residents want to see because the rents are gonna be for subsidized housing you understand so there they got a tax break to do that the related did so this is what's gonna happen you're gonna have the property values go down what specifically it's gonna change is they're gonna change the zoning work that can be built there and then they make it some tax breaks for it but that doesn't help the residents the residents that already own the property there it's a safety issue and then it hurts to value Robin I want you to respond to this but we're coming up against a commercial break so I want to give you enough time but I'm really curious to know your thoughts cuz again I grew up in the suburbs I grew up in apartment complex and yes I grew up in section 8 housing I'd love to hear your thoughts on that so we're gonna get Robin to respond to that coming up right after the break we also have a lot more to get to also coming up we're gonna weigh in on a controversial law affecting female prison inmates in California this is very interesting we're gonna get both of them to weigh in you can always weigh in on any of the topics that you hear on this program would love to know your thoughts you can do that by fighting me at real Miranda con hashtag share your voice we'll be right back you're watching