 I do not want to dig so much into the past but you knew I had to ask this. This time you were involved in this particular kandolia. You came out and told your side of the story very confidently. Is this a moment of regret or a lesson? How do you feel right now when you look back? I should regret but let me tell you the reason why I don't regret is that had I not told my side of the story then somebody else was going to do that for me yeah ah okay now you know Anita I really would like to know have you ever you know met Milichebi and just spoken to how she ever contacted you after all these amaa how how how is it what's up guys and welcome to yet another episode of bars with stars right here on spm bars guys if you haven't subscribed just yet see do you know gojianini see subscribe uh i'm gonna hesitate please subscribe sendio all right guys now when you see me here you know i'm hanging out with a star and today i am honored to be hosting a 22-year-old she goes by the name Anita Suina and other than just that you know she focuses on you know talking about environment issues and the most of all is that this 22-year-old is vine or rather aspiring to be an mp of kajado north see by this is the second time like it is the first time you came we were just talking about environment kupanda meaty but right now we are talking about a different conversation karibu sana spm bars it's like home to me i mean yeah yeah karibu tena na tena let me ask you where do you get this confidence to do all these things you do very vocal on social media as in as as a 22-year-old there's some things you talk about and engage in that are just different where do you get this confidence now first of all i don't believe in fear if you fear then you're not going to pursue what you want everything nowadays requires courage even if it's that thing that people think it's simple so for me i've always been a fighter i believe in fighting for myself fighting for my space and fighting for people just making sure that anything i do involves fighting for people as well so yeah you know that way you need courage so for me it's not an option yeah have to be courageous yeah there's no other option there's no other option you know let me ask you have you always been passionate about you know plans and just a breath of fresh air amma is it something you you know you acquire during kampu amma you know i don't like lying to people that oh you know i started planting trees when i was three years so that's a lie yeah i even never saw value in trees i never like imagined that one day i'd even be speaking for trees speaking for the environment and all that but it's something that i i picked up yes maybe because of the environment that i grew in raised by my grandfather at some point and he really used to value trees he had some small forest that he used to make sure it's protected and when he passed on things changed and all that but still at that point i still didn't see the sense you know you're just a small girl and just because babu says this doesn't mean you see the sense but when i grew up i joined our campus i was in the scouting club so jia fanki defi it was of course the head but at some point i was the chairperson of the scouting club so at this point we had a lot of community work you know as a scout you just have the community even if it's picking later in school and visiting i don't know the needy people outside the school and all those things so when it came to tree planting um few people used to take care of the trees so i had to do it because i'm the chairperson so i'm just doing it because it's bofanya patron at a kafirika and all those kinds but after high school i was actively engaged in politics so during 2017 campaign i met my mentor who's erik masanda so for him he trained he nurtured young people to recover their passion so he taught me about the sustainable development goals that time there was no to poverty and zero hunger i wanted to focus on that but then again just reading about them i came across climate action so i realized it needed more attention and growing trees was part of it so i just started like i shifted completely from other sdg and focused on that kind of climate action so to me i i termited discovering my passion because sometimes you can discover your passion even later very true i mean you you actually discovered your passion very young to be honest if you are 22 right now how long have you been doing doing this you know in terms of environment i covered my passion on of 17 that is in 2017 yes but i started actively engaging in 2018 in 2018 then now you what most people might not know but you went to a media institution to study journalism yes i went to a media institution to study communication related costs if they are in corporate communication at multimedia and i remember by the time i applied you know we used to apply in high school so i wanted to just do anything in relation to communication but when i joined campus i was already focusing on conservation but then i also realized that there was a gap you know because i'm trying to do something yeah there is that unique thing there is someone who is doing what you do yeah that everybody is unique in their own way very true so i realized in conservation uh we have this narrative that maybe i have to go to a school a science related school study environmental science and then be a conservation so i decided um no now if i'm going to do uh activism and advocacy i have to change this narrative that i can study something different and still take care of the environment so that it just because this is my home this is the planet then i have to take care of it so it doesn't have to be a career so that's a doctor and add someone in arts and entertainment someone in a totally different field yeah still value conservation value conservation wow okay now you see when um wangari matai made her so rest when she was actively you know advocating for conservation of environment and you are pretty young i believe so and i just read about her in both and you know we just you know read her like any other hero yes yes yes yes so when you decided to go this route did it at some point um because you know people started comparing you to wangari matai you know even abel mutua featured you know you are you know on his stories yeah and just mentioned that you you you're following that foot foot path rata and wangari matai was a big deal and you are there trying to fill those shoes did it come to a point that you started filling the pressure eh nani kama i'm comparing myself ama eh but i have to put more effort did it come that time you know for me i never allow that to happen why because for me uh wangari matai is not a competition but a role model yeah you know even schools outside even activists that we meet outside tell us that you know how do you feel that wangari matai was from your country yes so it's something that um you know when the moment you join environment conservation you will never avoid wangari matai i mean if you try to you will not so i i look at her as a role model okay as someone i follow her footsteps so sometimes when somebody call me wangari matai as much as it's something i really like or it's something uh you can feel good about then i also think about the match that she did yeah it's either you have reduced wangari matai to me yes who has not achieved the match she achieved yes or you have um so to look at it positively you have at least seen or the the same your potential and the same spirit yes yes so for me i look at that as um as a challenge that she was a fighter she did so much to conserve the environment and she went through a lot so anytime i'm going through the same uh the similar issue with her or so i will always look at how did she overcome this and if she did it then i can do it but try to avoid the pressure as much as we have the pressure but i never look at um trying to be like trying to be like her but following her footsteps yeah okay so what is that one moment you know during your your shenani ganzote activities zoteza to do with the environment since you started what is that who is that one person you've actually met in your line of work and you are you were in oh like you were very happy to actually interact with that person um last day in november we traveled to the uk for kof 26 and i was invited personally to go and have a meeting with some of the activists with two u.s. senators that is our senator jeff mackley and ed mackley okay and i was the only one representing africa at that time and i was the only one representing uh pastralist communities and outside when you dress like a masai you you are indigenous community which yes we could be indigenous communities so i was representing the minorities representing kenya representing africa in a small meeting of just four activists so for me that was really uh something um that made me so happy it's something i didn't expect considering i really didn't look for them it was a meeting that they look for us yes and how they were even listening to our story yeah i mean that was everything to me in conservation that's really great now you are now getting into politics and back story you just mentioned that in college there's a time that you got into politics what were you vying for and you know how was it now in kampu i don't recall that in kampas i was i was actively involved in politics i never died oh okay uh i wish i knew i'd have tried because the challenge that i was running away from that time is my biggest challenge right now in politics um i used to be actively involved campaigning for people yeah all those things but at some point i was also elected as the secretary general for kenya university female student leaders association that one the campaign was not really tough because it didn't involve much resources okay printing out posters no it was just up here online campaign so that's why it was easy for me and kampas politics uh what didn't look easy because the same way we struggled with resources out here yes the same way in kampas especially when we had the delegate system i mean i joined kampas on the delegate system was also being introduced yeah so this one you have few people and i i used to see how my friends who used to buy just dish out a lot of money yeah so as a metaphor am i going to get all this money yeah and we used to have our politicians funding our student leaders but i didn't think it was gonna be easy just me looking for someone just to buy my idea that i want to buy for such a position yes it was a challenge that i tried to escape yeah so you want to mean that the hesitation that was there to join politics was just because of the finances and the resources that were needed so you still had the compassion the delegate system is but you literally the highest bidder yes and you could give money today and tomorrow your opponent is just waiting to give out you know you could go out five thousand children and someone gives out five thousand five and then you i mean a hundred percent yeah so it's the highest bidder and i was not ready yeah for that i was scared i mean i cannot wait to actually just talk to you and ask you what makes you feel ready now but now before we get there yeah now you just announced that you want to buy for an MP seat which is quite a big deal and you know people are like oh my god she's 22 years old she's she has the confidence to do this how did that come about because i made this announcement on our team 21 yes so when i even turned 22 many people still say i'm 21 yes i remember in 2020 i had made a similar post that i was going to buy okay yeah i think i had seen that uh and i pulled it down because at that time covid was here and we were not even having online classes in our school okay so buy for an MP seat to be on the safe side you have to have a degree okay so i pulled it down and i gave up i knew because we were told that we're going to graduate in 2022 yeah so that means uh i know going to do this and looking at the roles of an MP and all that i really didn't want to you know you also choose what you feel you're comfortable with so i wasn't ready to buy for an MP seat of course so at this time i i totally knew that this was not going to happen anymore and i felt so broken so i knew maybe 27 or or in future yes so when we went to school and luckily we had a speedy coverage of the okay syllabus and we were able to get done in school so at one time i was seated in west land so i was just sitting fish somewhere and i thought uh it's too late because i was budgeted in december 2021 it's too late i think our people have already campaigned i don't think i'll catch up then i went to on kanwa i designed a poster yes and it was enough for MP Kajadonov 2022 yeah so i looked at the poster uh my friends were there so we were just discussing politics with my friends but they didn't know what i would do yes so i just designed a caption i was like okay and then i just posted it yes and i just posted it like it was just that way but i knew deep down in my heart i will still go for this now that i have this ticket yes so when we got to when i slept and the the next morning i woke up people were sending me screenshots and my mom is calling me yes my mom was like your skyrocketing i was like what's wrong because i i i was not even remembering that i had made that post yes so i didn't expect much pressure from the post okay so my mom sent me a screenshot from citizen digital 2021 year old environmentally set of i for kajadonov and now my friends are calling me why i didn't tell them yes and i told them point blank right now everybody has opinion to be so unfair for me not to listen to some of your opinion but i need for gonna tell you i will still get a not this time of course just try next time and i didn't want that i told them this is not the moment i want to hear that i even told my mom right now you just you should be telling me well done you will make it i just need those positive messages yes just that way and now i knew um now this is going to happen yeah you know i would really want to know like how exactly how your mom's reaction was how was it now just take us through the the poster citizen digital then the phone call how was it you know what's happened is that uh i graduated okay and when i graduated a lot of uh some of the blobs also picked up that anita finna the environmentalists have graduated in ola so there was too much attention on the media of me graduating so two days later this is me announcing i'm fine yes my mom is looking at all the attention it's coming with she she wasn't surprised because at some point i remember she she even tells me that that my grandfather used to say oh this grandchild of mine will be a leader one day he was also a leader okay and i have an uncle who's also a leader so my mom was not like really shocked but she she just felt it was too early and she was wondering how i'm going to do it so she felt like maybe i'm not serious or if you're serious why are you doing it right now yeah and she doesn't like when i have stress or when i when i have pressure so that was the big stress for her okay and now getting relatives asking her questions if if she knew about it yet she really didn't know about it yeah so i told her even for conservation she didn't want me to to start early she used to tell me how to finish kufas so i told her mom we have this culture where you have to let me wait for myself i have to start when i feel i'm comfortable so i do it fast and then i let them know so then actually when she was sending me the screenshot she was still uh not okay with it like she wasn't sure if i'm going to be okay with it yeah but after a few days she really gave me support okay she commented and she'd be like congratulations she didn't call me when she was on the call she just encouraged me yeah for my mom i'm used to that like she will start but when she realizes oh it's it's something i'm okay with that i'm comfortable once she realizes i'm comfortable then she'll also be comfortable yeah what about you know the people who are close to you who are a bit older than you what were their sentiments um they were excited okay imagine and i was so happy because we are so proud of you how did you think about it i even have friends in also in politics and maybe even if they had maybe they felt like for them they never felt like it was too early maybe they just felt like will she handle it yeah but still they will encourage me they will feel like uh they'd say this is so inspiring and all that yes yeah okay and then you decided the political party that you want to go for okay and of course the leader we all know is the current deputy president of kenya so i would really want to know the first time you met the deputy president have you actually you've met of course you've met him the first day you met him how was it uh fun enough we met the deputy president through forums okay not like we've ever started yes not like you know having one on one but in forums that i have actively participated he may not maybe have remembered even because he handles a lot of people in a day of course but it i was so lucky that when he was coming to kajado yes for the rally yes i was also around and that was my first time to even appear to the public yes so i had not really gone to the public to seek votes i just made this post and we are now sitting down with the team strategizing and in the process i get all the deputy president is coming tomorrow yeah now the nature of campaigns is you have to be so aggressive nobody like in some situations nobody will say you are a lady you also have to fight and yes so i remember that time we were rushing to the stand you have to rush to the stand so you can be able to speak when other aspirants are speaking so the first top when i went there some of the people blocked me and i told them i'm an aspirant so they told me mca's are writing their names on the other side i told them i'm not a mca aspirant i'm an mp aspirant because mp aspirant was speaking since you are a few and mca that you are usually many and sometimes maybe there is no time i'm an mp aspirant but this person didn't believe so i went to some sitting member of parliament and told him you know i'm the youth here we are the youth here i have to speak because youth also is this crowd yes and they had to allow me so when i spoke yeah now i had to speak in the in the uh in the remaining uh the remaining stocks yes i was also trying to read the mood of not only the deputy president but the leaders around yeah and they really appreciate that and i felt at home i felt like this party is accommodating young people as much as i redone to the party uh in different aspects including their economic model i i felt like now this space is good for the youth and the right place so was there a point that you had a conversation with the deputy president um the next day in i went i went for the rally in kasarane yes because the the day when we heard the rally in my plate a friend of mine called stagana we used his vehicle he came with his vehicle you know if you don't have a vehicle it's hard for it to survive for sure and also a specific type of vehicle you have a sunroof you know you can just i mean come out and see how you consider so the next day they were having a rally in kasarane and he's also vying in kasarane so we went to support and just around the car and i didn't know that deputy president could recognize me so i was like so you know kwaapa and then i kind of got and i was like uh then this is really nice like i didn't really uh i was not thinking you were going to remember me yes yes oh that's really good to hear how did it make you feel you know just him actually mentioning your name and recognizing that she knows he knows you yeah i really felt uh i felt good the fact that uh he i mean he and those many people yeah so even if he remembers you today and forgets you tomorrow that way that he remembers is really is really important and it makes you feel like um you're the right place yeah and for him he's really i've had space for the youth yeah he likes youth and that's why most youth still read on it with him so you went ahead and met your competitors there you know the people that are the ones that are aspiring to be MPs in kajado north as well how was it because you see this is not something that we are used to seeing competitors sit down because again they are older than you they're like your dad you know the age of your dad how was it the moment i decided to buy i told myself my name and fear show never yes appear in the same sense yes so for us what you're trying to do is you know we are having party primalism and we are trying to show people that we are not just preaching peace but we are also you know we are also trying to do the same um we we are about six candidates in kajado north five of us meet almost every day i don't know about the other i may not talk about the other but the five of us we we are friends we talk we even agree so because you know after nomination we will have one candidate for sure and we have to support whoever it is you know so we try so much to make sure that we are not we don't even have any reason to fight we are children of the same house we belong to the same party we meet um we meet sometimes just have coffee and even discuss things just about ourselves so for us we are trying to change the culture of politics where if this is your opponent they have to be your enemy no we're just political we just have differences in politics just that maybe i'm buying in your mind but we don't have that enmity at all and i really like that the moment we sit down together i always feel relieved unlike when you know before i sat down with them out feeling the tension and they also are they don't despise me being young yeah uh that's something i appreciate that we could go for campaigns and they will really say uh what's your name to taonga you know like what's your name and all those things really makes me feel good so it's something that we are trying to do changing the culture of politics that we have and we have to be enemies and you know one thing i realize people fight not because the politicians fight uh we don't fight we just show differences and people start fighting but when you show love and you show and you show that we are in one house that if one wins we have to support them then our supporters will support us peacefully so that my people support me your people support you but not having to to have a physical fight i love it now um of course aspiring to be an mp requires resources like we mentioned earlier it requires finances and i tend to think you know you require a couple of millions yeah like 15 and above yeah depending with how you want to use the the resources um where where are you getting where are you planning to get the finances to do this anita where i think my candidacy is just there's a there's a fresh in college in that phase dependable first of all let's start from there it's not easy yes it's not easy at all i'm not having resources but i'd say as much as i don't have even a quota of that i get support from people like i just be seated and maybe someone sees my work and says i want to do you maybe even 50 posters yes i even have someone the other day who who did business cards yes took a photo from my from my subs data made a poster and then sent me photos of business cards wow and then someone is calling me from from keterian uh who had my number that have seen me also small business cards and i was not even aware so it's wow they are like just campaigning on your behalf on ground and the same person actually just knew me i think uh from the campaign ground and all that yeah and anytime there's an event he has about an event he will always go do you have a car can i come and drop you with my car i mean wow these are people i had not even like interacted with before yeah but on the on the looking at the other side because really much resources are needed um a few people here and there someone will sell do you tisha someone reflect us someone uh i'll do you different yeah that's so you're entirely relying on yes help that you'll get and well wishers you know i'm looking at most of my you know i'm i'm in a very tough situation right now looking at my opponent these are people who've been fine others have been i even sitting mca yes who've been there for 10 years and this means they have a lot of resources others have just been there uh even people who've been vying before are in a better position than me because they usually say at iakwanda niako zagina and for me that's not me i want to win you know i mean this to win it so telling so you have to think about the resources you have to have first of all kila mta kuji on the level now so that's a really big yeah because now look at someone like boniface mwangi he's he was an aspiring empi as well but he did not have that you know liquid cash to give people and people were telling him boni tuneza kumotia lakini hauna do imagine have you had such yes and interaction care and it's so sad that even my age meant now who knew that i just completed campus the other day one expect if you mean when i hand out here wow so am i going to convince those women there who don't even know me who don't understand about you oh is it you already knows me that i have to convince so now days um hand out to the panda be what's only talk about 50 bob 100 yes so now you just down and you're like yes and then we have this um thing that people like to say so this is a narrative that has been put in our heads yeah because you know someone mama so next time when someone is by they'll have to maybe even launch and all that you can imagine i even had there's a place where people are being given 100 shillings they're about they're about 3000 people yeah i know a thousand people and they're given 100 100 100 you know how much that is that's a lot yes you know and so someone will come and say so some me are too but they will not see the point of what all our car is not going to go yes until we give money oh wow now you have to check your phone and give money or everything that you have you have yeah so that you can be allowed to leave yes and it's not people don't care that maybe you are a lady or you're young or you've not worked even if you're a toddler that's not they don't even tell you that's not their business yeah yeah oh my goodness i'm really trying to avoid that yeah quality so that any amount that i spend actually maybe goes to a project or goes to something that even if i don't win i will still look and say look we did that yeah wow now apart from the the finance aspect or rather the finance challenge is there any other challenge that you've encountered yet um i think the people have accepted in the young person okay it is an advantage but also some openings from even other parties and even like one in our party will always use that to maybe think to maybe tell to tell the people yeah that's onim dogo that's why my slogan is not too young to lead yes because if i've been able to handle our organization staff and other projects before yeah i don't think it's it's about age or something it's about the willingness to deliver to the people yeah and also i'd say another big challenge apart from resources that's the main challenge resources and people is claiming that you're young which is an advantage but i'd say youth youth don't support their own i used to think so and it's not only for me yeah i'm sure if you have an interview other youth they'll tell you the thing yes and they don't vote yeah too sad to say they vote but women vote more than youth so if you want like if you are a youth and we are we are looking at youth leadership it means you have an you shall have an army of youth behind you yeah i mean but what i see even in what's happened i mean as a youth you have a right to ask me what i'll come and do for you yeah but they put youth in a corner that they don't do the same to these people so it shows you that they are not even interested in your leadership they're just there to maybe frustrate you kind of something not to really ask you because they're interested in us which is a big challenge and i think that's where we fail someone was telling me it's something that we really need to do but we still have some hold up but i'm sure it's something that our youth can slowly change and learn i personally want to create a leadership where it's not just me being a youth but it's about me sitting down with youth and asking ourselves me need to find out what do we need to do for the constituents so that when i get there you hold me accountable it becomes asked it becomes a youth leadership not an it has leadership with a youth so that way we are able to even deliver together you know that's the kind of thing that i only wish yeah okay i really hope we know we can just work towards that end and just achieve a better connection with our fellow youths because now it looks like it's a problem but uh you know now you know they say when a woman gets into politics yeah they become uncontrollable it's so hard for them to settle down and you know just get married and have a family have you gotten such backlashes such backlash ama and where personally do you intend to settle even here at your main fear women and i don't know but yeah i personally intend to settle one day of course i would want to have a family just like other people maybe not now yeah you know before i even decided to join politics and all that maybe there were that years to even have time like i did here yes but right now but yes i intend to yes aya mamu tenei mendei ki change tenu tenu kiyongezah miaka kathati apa na wati kwa kathati five kidogo tenei wati kwa kafoti this space comes with a lot of responsibilities and you know in a family yeah it's a woman who has responsibilities yeah so i i'm looking at at least trying to also achieve for myself yeah have my own goals have my own like just get to where i want to be so that's when i even settle down you know settling down i'm also bringing something to the table so that i don't say i'm the table yeah yeah yeah yeah but let me ask you know with your 22 year old experience do you feel like men are intimidated by you know women who are in higher positions than them why do you think so yes because um you know in my like in my previous relationship yes um i was not even doing much oh it's previous is it the one that you post hand for us the guy on social media so now it's previous well noted yeah it is previous ehe hi it has been long you know for me i i don't when i need when i'm doing some of my things i don't like pressure the only thing i need is space to be able to achieve my dream and for me i've always tried to be that person who's chasing their dreams because i believe i used to know that men appreciate women who are chasing their dreams for ground so like for me it's not necessarily financial support yes but just that support of keep going and all that so it got to a point where now i am requested to stay back home because conservation is not paying me but i'm looking at this something i it's it's not it's not like i'm doing it for a living so if it's not paying me well and good i even put my resources there yeah but this is me leaving my dreams i am happy i like it as a as an environment of activity as an environment to advocate speaking speaking for all these environmental injustices is something that i've always wanted to but telling me to stay home that because you provide anyway and that i can just sit home and wait for it made me realize that uh what i normally hear is true yeah it could be maybe that was not the reason but for me how i view it that was the case i feel like if because saying that you provide and that that i should stay home meaning i should not proceed with my life in any case i can provide for myself yeah maybe you feel like i can't be controlled or something of the thought yes and i don't want to lie you know we live in a society where most negative things are said about men but for sure we have good men out there for sure we have men who still empower women empower women even if they are not maybe their girlfriends or their wives or something so we have people still empower them not necessarily not just financially yeah you know that also you know living home with uh you know living home you're going out for tree planting yes i know it's not paying me but i know this is what i love doing it what i've decided to to do yes with uh you know go make just go make yourself proud and a word like that is better than is if it unafanya as a kulepi and coming back home too ome toko kwenje watu ana kufi if everybody's proud of you people are just telling you to keep doing your entire in many people and then getting home to search you even get demoralized yeah like you know what love you but me first it is what it is and i agree it should be it should be always you first and just your happiness yeah because at the end of the day you cannot peg your happiness on someone else any that is the last thing someone and you know if i'm not happy yeah this relationship can't it will not be happy yeah and it's not like i'm demanding too much i'm just asking that i just follow my path yeah i just do what i want to do and i mean you see i actually see that men no support there women in what they love doing it actually gets to be a success and just helps the family at the end of the day how do you feel when your girlfriend or your wife is making steps out there yeah you should be proud of you know hi instead of being intimidated you know no kind of yeah but like i said these people are few we have good men out yes i have seen people i don't even know even online yes even people great leaders like uh the obama and all that we've seen them yes so it's not like men are not there it's not like we don't have men who support yes okay okay now anita i i don't want to dig so much into the past yeah but you knew i had to ask christia so this time you were involved in this particular kando let's call it a skandolia and um with this particular comedian and you came out and and just told your side of the story very confidently when you look back is it a moment of regret is it a moment of a lesson or how do you feel right now when you look back i should regret but let me tell you the reason why i don't regret yes is that had i not told my side of the story okay then somebody else was going to do that for me yeah you know sometimes my even my friends or people there's someone who even stopped talking to me after me when i met okay let me tell you then you know the way people repost instead of blogging yes i should inform to her too you know and this person is like you know because you first should ask me why did you yes you do it yeah so like i'm as much as i was young i got because uh i i am always ahead kindogo toki so i didn't want to nobody will you know people you are in this field yes you know nobody will want to just come out in very true very true but at that moment i think like i say as much as sometimes i may not agree with edga yes he taught me one thing okay that time for me to fit down and do that interview yes he showed me that it was planned to be done in a different way okay and you know the culture of online all the space that we have now this the first story is always right so had i just kept quiet in the name of at his silence to you if you don't talk to you there is nothing to you mean i don't mean i had to and i am as much as they thought sometimes maybe i may not agree with someone edga taught me at that time yeah okay now you know anita i really would like to to know have you ever you know met mili chebi and just spoken to how has she ever contacted you after all these amma how how how is it you know i don't know why i'm trying to avoid uh talking about yes her at all yeah uh because in 2019 when i clearly if i do that today yes because there are things that she puts out there that i even didn't know about myself okay and had i done what she did it would be worse on the side so i don't really like talking about it i don't have bad blood with her even in the salon when you used to do my hair before we used to do her in the same place we've met in places she said hi to me so it's fine yeah i mean okay and i really hope you know in future that relationship can be meant at the end of the day or rather just i mean i didn't have a problem with anything at all yeah i'm i'm someone even my team member can tell you i'm someone who gets mad yeah in the next minute i talk to them and you will not even believe that yeah all right anita i mean these are it's called a life experience it teaches us lessons what what did that scenario teach you yeah on your story on your story on your story taught me and i don't i don't even like to call it anymore yeah you know in this life there are stages and there is a path yeah that you may you may try to run away from it but maybe that's how it was meant to be yeah so i look at it as a path that i was walking through and maybe there was supposed to be a hill at that time yes it's normal it's normal it happens to everybody yeah even to the people only that people some others are not ready to talk about it you know or they are not known so we don't even know what you know i mean but i get it anita now i would like you know to just talk to your fans your people tell them something what is it that you you're up next doing just talk to them um i think the only thing i can tell people i like to remind people to go for what they want uh as long as it's something that is going to be your life something that you feel is going to make you better just don't be scared and i don't believe in procrastination and postponing because the what you'd have done between now and when you intend to stand to start is much um we're also having projects this year for conservation in the organization uh that is reviving or continuing with our ochas uh for schools program where we plant fruit trees and we also plant indigenous trees and schools so anybody who is interested uh in supporting or joining the cause from whichever part of the country we also have coordinated so you can be part of our organization in mombasa kericho bomet and all those areas um lastly if any of my constituents will watch this i hope that i i am actually asking for your votes come april during the nomination so that you can also be able to forge ahead together i will be presenting my manifesto soon that will come more detailed so i am doing a manifesto based on the problems of the people not based on the decisions i'm making in health and i hope when this time comes you're going to support me so yeah you can also support our conservation project via our tilt number which is 54 83 54 1 that is five warriors kenya if you want to support my political bid you can just maybe take my instagram i can share with you the context yeah all right anita that was beautiful thank you so much for talking to spm bars and just sharing with us what your thoughts are you know your journey as well and just your projects that are coming up as Santestana now guys that was the 21 year old anita soina who's an aspirant of kajado north as a name p guys please watch out for anita check her out on her social media pages just see what she's up to what is she doing and just support her because you know she's young ambitious and very aggressive and i mean she deserves your chance as well now thank you so much guys my name is miss kitingi and until next time this was buzz it starts right here on spm buzz goodbye