 Welcome to mind pump your favorite fitness and health podcast. Now in today's episode we answer Fitness and health questions asked by our audience But we also do an introductory portion where we talk about our lives We tell stories and sometimes we mention our sponsors Here's what went down in today's episode. So we start out by talking about our valentine's day Viori gifts For our significant others vday now viori makes the best Athleisure wear in fact they have a pair of Of pants that I love called the sunday performance joggers now an indigo color You got to go check it out. They have the best athleisure wear extremely comfortable Durable and it's a life handsome joggers lifetime guarantee. Oh and also because you are listening to mind pump You get 25 off all their products including their brand new just dropped spring collection Here's how you get the discount go to viori clothing. That's v U O R I clothing dot com forward slash mind pump Use the code that's listed on the page get a full 25 percent off your total order Then we talked about the drinking game that we did called wheel of misfortune should have been called wheel of death Yes, I know we're a health and fitness podcast But there's a reason why we did this we started working with a new sponsor called zbiotics And they make a genetically engineered probiotic That produces an enzyme that breaks down the byproduct of alcohol that is often responsible for the effects of a hangover the crappy feelings So we thought what better way to test this new product than just get let's test the limits Let's get destroyed and that's what we did and uh, you'll hear in the episode 100 true We are blown away by how we feel today. I should not be here at work I shouldn't be alive and uh, we feel okay. The stuff is pretty insane Anyway, we have a hookup for you. Okay if you want to try this out. This is what you do go to zbiotics. That's the letter z B i o t i c s dot com forward slash mind pump You'll get 10 off the zbiotics three pack six pack and 12 packs So we got you the hookup give it a try. Let us know how you like it Then we talked about death metal And my favorite subject so cool We talked about samsung's new folding phone and then we talked about seo for movies and how that makes a big difference apparently and getting ticket sales Then we got into answering the fitness questions. Here's the first one This is a woman asking us about chest exercises and wants to know how it'll affect the appearance of her breasts So we talk all about that in that part of the episode The next question this person says hey, how do you change your diet? On days you work out versus days you don't work out. Should you change your diet? We actually had a differing of opinions here and discussed the benefits of eating less on non training days Or eating more on non training days The next question this person wants to know if we have an elevator pitch That'll help them convince family members to start lifting weights So we hook them up with some sales tips and the final question this person says look Uh, I need to learn how to enjoy certain healthy foods like salmon. I can't stand it But are there any techniques or strategies to be able to build new associations with the food so I can start to eat it Use butter and we talk about nacho cheese helps a lot And we talk a lot about our strategies and things that we've sat found success with our own clients Also before the episode starts check this out Maps split is 50 off. Now. What is that? That is our extreme advanced awesome bodybuilding physique competitor Bikini competitor inspired workout program. 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So I didn't I didn't get around to Getting much for katrina for valentine's day, but she had already picked her up A new outfit from uh veori got something from her new sprint the spring collection. They just released clutch I know right so came in clutch totally and she didn't sell me out either. So she didn't wrap me out and say like she got it Yeah, we look really good. Thank god at least I got that although I just realized this is going to be on the podcast So they'll know now Oops, yeah, anyway, um, so how do you boys feel because Uh, are you guys a little sluggish? Are you a little bit? So here's here's a deal We got to let in let the audience in on what happened yesterday We are working with a new sponsor called zbiotics Well first back up how we how we first mentioned them on the show like what maybe two months ago You read a study. I read a study about a genetically engineered probiotic that produced an enzyme So you take it these these bacteria and by the way, they get this bacteria from natto natto, which is a japanese food Right fermented food And they they modified them so that they produce an enzyme that breaks down Acetyl aldehyde, which is a byproduct. It's a byproduct of alcohol. Now. Why is this important? Because scientists think that the buildup of of acetyl aldehyde is one of the main reasons why you feel so shitty The day after your drink because your body can only break down so much of it once it builds up real high you get the Inflammation the headache all the characteristics of a hangover and I read this article And the journalists in the articles like this stuff is amazing And then people talked about how great it was and I kind of knew a little bit about how alcohol Causes problems. I thought it was brilliant. We brought it up on the podcast We bring it up on the podcast just you dropping it as a study Yeah, we weren't even working with nothing no no affiliation at all just you coming across your daily studies They get this huge spike in sales out of nowhere They're trying to figure it out for a few weeks. They finally get enough people that are actually Emailing in and telling them like oh heard about this on mine pump So that gets them to reach out to us and then the conversation starts And the the crazy part about it is The people that report back after taking this I can't write it's either 80 something or 90 something percent of people Say they feel a significant difference and so we had before we did anything with them So this is we're backing up like a few months back right when this all first started We have them send of course a kit over to us so we can go ahead and try it out ourselves I had three of them. We brought it to sal's Birthday party in vegas. Was that one we brought it? Yeah, it was the first time we had it Yeah, I gave it to you guys because I only brought two and thinking like I got one for me and like a backup or whatever I ended up giving them both to you guys and didn't get to try it out But yeah, you guys get to try it out. Yeah, so we we tried it in vegas and you know that night I drank Not super heavy, but heavy enough to wear and I'm look I'm old enough and experienced enough with alcohol to know The feeling that I have the next day or the too much right? Yeah I know it too much here. Yeah, it's like it's like a toxic feeling. It's pretty obvious It's hard to it's hard to you know, I if you've ever been drunk and had a hungover hang over the next day You know what I'm talking about. It's this toxic kind of gross feeling. Yeah, so we took it We went out we drank. I drank a little a little bit too much And I woke up the next day and I felt remarkably Okay, like I mean remarkable in the sense that I was shocked Adams too. I remember we called each other and we're both like What the so we decided to work with the company and then we had a great idea Rachel's great idea. Right. Yeah, let's let's let's push the limits. Yeah, let's great idea Let's push the limits dude. So we did a for me. We did a drinking game and we thought of misfortune Yeah, and we thought it would be a good test and potential commercial now. Here's the deal The the game you spin a wheel and then you have to do what it says on the wheel and without going too much detail Yeah The you have three lives every time you have to take a shot unless everybody takes a shot So when you do that five lives you loot note. Well the game says three lives. Oh, okay, Rachel thought Hey, let's do five lives like that's a great idea. We want to make sure they're definitely getting in Our first mistake. Yeah, but here's the thing that you don't realize when you play the game You don't always lose a life when you take a shot when we all have to take a shot. Yeah doesn't count So here we are playing the game Doing shots every time it tells us to and the game's moving fast So you're like within an hour. Yeah, I lost. Okay, so I didn't even do as many as adam or jester You guys you guys got messed up way too many. I was out after about I'd say seven or eight shots In this is within 45 minutes. Yeah And I I haven't taken that many shots of alcohol Since I was probably 20 years old I mean there was when I when we were kids we used to have this like, you know, you weren't you weren't drunk until you threw up That's what was our stupid thing that we used to say Yeah, right and that's when you're like when you're 20 and it's like that you you live for friday nights, right? We would sit down and we would do like a We couldn't afford it much so we got the you know the cheapest pop-off vodka the under bird Yeah The big plastic gallon of vodka Then the three of us would sit around and this is what it reminded me of just shot after shot after shot after shot Just taking turns until it was gone. I'm gonna be 100 honest That was bro. That was the most drunk. I've been in at least over a decade. Oh, I'm telling you I have not been Two decades for me. It hasn't been since 20 years old since I've done something like probably the same We were smashed and here's the funny part when we annihilated the only one of us that was excited for the drinking game And who was just like this is great. I can't wait. It's so fun was Justin I wanted to see you guys get like on that level and then yeah I was like way over hyping it and and paid the bro. You you you danced in the dark side there I did so what happened? I left. I saw I had to take off just had to come pick me up I was destroyed and I know you had you were drinking straight whiskey Yeah, I had fireball which is not nearly as strong. Yeah, and I was watching you progressively become more and more I morphed I would say yeah, so you got sick, right? We left. I got really sick so I think Yeah, I think because I ate a decent amount for lunch and then trying to kind of prep and I think what happened was like It just finally got past the food, you know It hit me all at once and then it was just like I pretty much blacked out Like I didn't remember a whole lot other than I was like just puking my guts out I was like I was hugging the toilet doing the old like no one in here Ten showers when I got home, you know This doesn't even work that well where it could be like flush all of it down I'm like looking at it. Oh god. Oh the humanity Now how many do you know how many shots you took? Well, Rachel will count it. Oh, I have no idea I think I think they're gonna I think they're gonna count it up on the video when they when they do the video I think they're gonna keep track. I think you guys hit like 11. I know I push. I know I push 10 I know I did but this is 10 shots of straight alcohol in In an hour. Yeah, I know that bottle is dangerous that bottle is done And then I still my last shot. I remember was a jack Daniels the last thing you remember That's the last thing I remember. That was all a haze So I I knew this we were gonna do this game and I figure and I am I'm a lightweight anyway, right? So I told Jessica drop me off at work, and then I want you to come pick me up after But when she came to pick me up, she had to pick up my daughter first And then my son right so my kids are in the car. Oh god. Okay. Okay, so I kids came to pick up too Oh, dude, so I get in the car and I'm like, I don't want my kids to know their dad got smashed on a Thursday at work, you know So Oh, dude, so I get in the car and my daughter first thing my daughter goes. What's that smell? I'm like, I'm like, what do you mean? She's like it smells gross. What do you smell funny? Yeah, my son. Oh, she said that right away. Yes. Oh, my son's looking at me And he's like and I had told him a while ago about zbiotic that we were this company goes It's today the day you got drunk and I'm like a little bit, you know, I'm fine Then as we're driving, this is my face the whole time in the car I'm like because I was like maintaining like I am not going to let my kids know My daughter goes, why are you making your face that way? Why do you look like that? We get in the house and my son's like you should go take a nap Said, yeah, I'm going to go take a nap. Yeah. Now Doug, you were also visibly Inebriated you got destroyed. You're the smallest lightest guy in here How did you what's how did you feel? What's the deal? Now yeah or or then well then too. Did you get sick too? I didn't not at all So I was nowhere near where Justin was as a matter of fact He was helping I was his caretaker. Yeah Yeah, so everybody left This asshole was actually considering driving. He thought he was okay. Oh my god. I said Justin. No, there's no way There's no way you're going And so he called his wife and then the next thing he does is he disappears And then I hear this retching sound coming from the bathroom bathroom. Hey, I made it to the bathroom. You gotta give me that So he's in there for a good. I don't know how 45 minutes. Oh, I just had to kneel down right before the throne Yeah I mean and these are like dry heaves. It sounds like I was nervous for you though Doug too because you were really worried and you were pretty smashed before you were the Were you the first or second one out the sound go out? I was the second one out. Yeah, Sal went out first Then Doug Then Justin. Yeah, well, I thought this game If I were to lose and being get out first that I would I would know that I would drink the most Oh, that's what I thought the rules were when I first started So I was pretty nervous about losing like But in fact by losing I won right it's kind of losing to get it is kind of ironic The way the game is set up that if you win you end up taking the most shots because you've had to outlast everybody So you're not much of a winner. Not really But I did probably do seven to eight Oh, I know I was Adam was sitting on the couch and you're not one normally to complain or anything like that And you're like, bro, you're like, I haven't been I don't know when the last time I was this destroyed Well, I so I have like in right away. So Doug and did Justin go with us to Yes, we walked a whole food. So like what I've learned from just a weaved Yeah, yeah, we uh, we went for a long walk So we we right away like because Katrina asked me because she knows that's how that's what if I the Handful of time she's seen me drunk I'll just take off and I just go for a walk for like hours just to burn burn it off, dude Like the I think the worst thing you can do when you're that Fucked up is to go lay down and try and close your eyes. I close my eyes. Oh, yeah The room's spinning like I'm that's how bad we were. So I'm like, I have to burn some of this off or else I'm I don't care how magical zbiotic is I'm gonna be hung over because how bad I was So we went walking to Whole Foods Doug bought a whole loaf of uh, french bread And then him and I just were tearing it off and eating it dry just back and forth until it was gone, dude Yeah, that's your that's your drunk meal. Yeah, dude Eating that back and forth and soak it up walked all the way back from Whole Foods Then Katrina came and picked me up Then I went home And I I sat on the couch for a second and I did I knew I was like, oh, I can't sit down yet If I stopped moving I got worse And so I was like, I'll walk the dogs So I just took each dog for a walk for a long I want to give a disclaimer. Okay Do not do what we did At all first off We're professionals I don't think we anticipated getting that destroyed that that was way overboard and number and number two It's dangerous. I mean, let's be honest. That was just a silly amount But here's the trippy part and this is a hundred percent true crazy. This is crazy First off. I haven't been that drunk in at least 10 years 100 percent the next day. I would feel like complete and utter I'm I'm I'm blown. I'm blown away by how I feel right now. You know, it's weird and here's the real I feel very tired. Yes, because I didn't sleep. Yes, I mean, I was so drunk that at two in the morning I was still drunk, you know, stumble into the bathroom to go pee and stuff And I'm still drinking water trying to fall asleep. So I didn't get a good night's sleep for sure Like I definitely I don't I don't feel great, but I feel I just feel tired. Yes. It's all I feel I don't feel nauseous. I don't have a headache. I don't feel dehydrated. I feel totally fine. It's it's wild But yeah, I know it's blowing my mind like I woke up this morning and you know, Jessica's like, you know, how are you doing? And I'm like, you know, I worked out this morning. I woke up at 5 a.m. and lifted you trained even swear to god Wow, I swear to god I'm too tired to get up. I didn't have I didn't have like a spectacular workout But the fact that I worked out is testament to how I'm literally it's almost I'm almost in disbelief Because normally I'd be achy my whole body. I feel feverish I'd have a throbbing painful headache and instead what I feel like is I just had bad sleep. Yeah, which to me is just I I swore to god. I feel like this company came up with it now. Here's the thing. You can't say it's a Hangover curing like that. Yeah, what's the what's the reason for that? I remember him telling when we were on the phone and we were first talking And it's like it's like one of those things that like they tell you all that a condition Well, they tell you like how magical it is like as we're off, you know offline talking They're like, but listen, you have to be very careful. You can't say all these things and make wild claims But just wait, you'll see when you take it. No, you can't reason why you can't. Yeah, the fda regulates a hangover as a medical condition. So you can't make a medical claim unless it's a fda approved Substance or drug for that medical condition. Now, I know there's studies going on So that's probably gonna be something that they will be able to talk about later once the studies come out and all stuff So what we're talking about is simply our own anecdote and it also here's another thing that's important It doesn't Allow you to drink more in the sense that you're still going to get drunk So that's an important thing to understand. It's not like you take you're going to take zbiotics And now I can drink way more. No, no, no, you get just as drunk as you did before So you still got to be, you know, very careful But uh, yeah, it's uh It's pretty uh pretty remarkable at the at the I can't I can't now Justin I want to know because You got sick. You never get sick. You have you have the most tolerance For drinking you have an iron stomach. I don't think you ever throw up. So how do you feel? Yeah And the thing is like I don't drink fast like that either like that was like in such a short period of time and like You know way too much You know and so like I I puked my guts out everything like I was in there and then I ended up home Thank god, you know, Courtney came to pick me up Um, but to be honest, I just like I I slept on the couch for a bit And got up and then I felt like almost normal again. It was really bizarre Like I started drinking water and then it was coming back and like it was like I was resurrected, dude It was weird and and then now now today. I feel super tired and like I feel like I was in vegas for three days and like hadn't slept or whatever But I don't feel like like you're talking about the pains like In terms of I used to have like really gut-wrenching pain if I ever got that sick like the next morning I was like guaranteed. I'm gonna still puke and I'm gonna have headaches And I'm gonna be achy and I don't have any of that I just feel really lethargic and I don't feel mentally sharp or anything right now But I'm definitely could be a lot worse. It's really trippy. Oh, but I swear. I mean, what a great Commercial for zibotic, but it's a hundred percent true and we really did I put it to the ultimate test. Well, that's the way we just the way we found this company was completely organic You know, I mean it was we you were just reading some crazy study. We could we didn't believe it There's no way this could work that great. Let's test it out. Let's test it out. Oh my god The first time we just okay. Let's push the limits and see what I mean So literally what happens again? This is acetyl aldehyde builds up in the system It's a byproduct of alcohol metabolism and your body breaks that down into more benign things like acetate In something else But there's an enzyme that does that that the liver produces And the problem is that this enzyme runs out you have a limited supply So once this enzyme runs out You can't break down any more of it and you get acetyl aldehyde build up and that build up is toxic and inflammatory to the body and They sit and studies show that this is one of the main reasons besides dehydration and lack of sleep One of the main reasons you feel so so toxic the next day Now a lot of people wonder why can't I just take that enzyme? Why can't I just supplement with the enzyme that breaks down acetyl aldehyde? The reason you can't is because enzymes are basically proteins and if you take it by mouth your gut breaks it down And it doesn't get through the system and break down the alcohol So what you do when you take this genetically modified bacteria is the bacteria goes through your gut And it produces this enzyme throughout your gut. So as you're drinking throughout the night or whatever You have ample amounts of this enzyme to break down this acetyl aldehyde It's Absolutely brilliant. It's so brilliant that I actually worry that it's going to increase people's how much people drink I think it's going to give people the the green card to drink more because of course it's going to do that No, of course, what's their what's their tag? Have you seen their tag line? It's a drink like there is a tomorrow Yeah, like if people say drink that there's no tomorrow It's a drink like there is a tomorrow But I tell you what this is it now now I now I have something that if we because we don't drink very often But when we do I always feel shitty the next I hate alcohol It makes me feel like dirt like dirt the next day But now that we have this, uh, you know, I think it's going to be a good tool in the toolbox It's going to be just a little bit a little bit Well, you know, I remember what was it like two years ago when you introduced the whole charcoal thing And that was like game changer for me because up up until mind pump Like I never had alcohol ever like I would go over a year and not have a drink ever Like it just was not my thing because I always felt miserable Then you introduced charcoal and that made a big difference But this shits on that. Oh dude. I mean as as much as that helped me. This is is on a whole like I said I haven't I haven't felt like that and and at least a decade it was a it's you know When you get so if you're listening right now, you know, I'm talking about when you get so drunk that you start to pray You know what I mean? Where you're like, please Just let me get through this right now and I'll be a better person. I'll be a good person It was it was that kind of of a feeling. It wasn't very good. Anyway, so I like I said, I woke up this morning And was able to work out by the way, Justin. I want to talk. I wanted to ask you something. I know you're the death metal um, like uh Aficionado. Yeah, you're the guy, right? I am definitely I almost never listened to the lyrics of death metal I just lift and it's just right on a workout Yeah, they're a little scary sometimes But because my workout was a little slower because I wasn't you know and get good sleep last night Yeah, you needed that extra encouragement. I just I just for whatever reason started paying attention to the lyrics And I realized something The lyrics to death metal is just a bunch of like Anxed it's a bunch of dudes who are like pissed off that their girlfriends are That's so sort of god, dude. Yeah, some of them like I don't know if you listen to a band like hate breed or something They're not death metal, but like they're more I guess like hardcore metal. I guess you'd say But that's like empowering music if you listen to their lyrics, it's all like about like how to overcome and like, you know Yeah, so it just depends on the genre, but that's hilarious. So death metal was like all just angsty. Yeah, I'm listening to it It's like, you know, I hate you. You know, I'm like, wait a minute. But think but these are the demographic Yeah, you know, it's all these teenage boys that you know, they're kind of catering. Oh emo black But you know who does it? Who's the guy I follow him on instagram shout out to this dude because I love his content Matt New shell. Is that right? Oh, yeah. Is it new shell? I think you're right. Yeah, Matt's his first name He has an emo character. He brings out all the time. He does it all the time, dude. It's it's money too. It's hilarious You know, I reached out to him probably I don't know almost a year ago when I first he's blown up now When I first found his page and the content he was putting on my oh, this dude's gonna be big watch And I tried to get him on the show way back when and our schedules didn't match whatever But dude is funny. It's pretty funny that you bring that up Like I just bought tickets and signed up for like this this furnace fest is what it's called in alabama And it's all like crazy ass death metal and you're going to alabama You're going to an alabama. Hold on. You're going to an alabama death on a weekend concert Yes, and I'm going with oh my god with with my old bandmates, you know from chicago What are you doing this? This is in like uh, september, but it's like on a weekend. Yeah You're gonna fly out there just for the weekend and fly back. Yes. Yes Wow Because are you gonna mosh with the corn fed big dudes that from alabama or what hell? Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah That was one of those things like I turned 40 this year. I was like, dude This is one of the it just popped up It was an old festival that we had played, you know a long time ago. Oh, I saw you share that in your story You were sharing the lineup all the people that were going to be there Yeah, I wanted to see if there was anybody else going that listens to the show or anything If I'd run into anybody because it's a very niche You know like music like nobody there's not a lot of people that listen to this shit So I'm I'm like, you know, I'm I'm I'm trying to get into things that I used to really love Again, and this is one of those things. So I'm like really excited about it Dude, you know, you know who got me to listen to it at all was a female Uh roommate of mine really in my mid 20s. I was like 20. That's rare because yeah Girls usually hate this kind of she introduced me to like dropkick murphy all that like I didn't know any of that stuff I didn't know any punk. I didn't know any death metal. I didn't know anything. That's all she was and you know Sounds like a cool chick blonde hair blue-eyed girl Like you would just didn't like did not fit what the demographic didn't look she was a paralegal to wow Yeah, you wouldn't you would just never she sounds awesome. Yeah, I know she was rad We were like we were best friends did she play video games too? She didn't play videos But she's snowboarded Almost a unicorn. Yeah Well, one of my my best friends was dating her for quite some time But we were we were good friends well, but that's I just listen you talk about I'm like who got me to listen to death metal first I'm like, you know, it's funny. There's a chick I listen to it exclusively to lift weights. It's it's it just puts me in the mood and it gets me to I get this real good aggressive energy. It's very very distinct. Oh, yeah But Justin legit listens to it like all time. Yeah, just relaxing It annoys the fuck out of me. We'll be driving. We're driving somewhere, right? It's like It's like it calls me down eight o'clock in the morning. We're heading to like some interview We're gonna do or in another state. I'm like drinking my coffee waking up and just I'm like Justin puts on music It's like I'm like, whoa, bro. Oh, it's too much. Yeah way too fast You gotta work your way up to me to get me ready for that. Oh, it's funny But it is funny when I'm listening to the lyrics And of course I'm thinking like Yeah, mostly men listen to this and boys. It's angsty lyrics. This is legit because two reasons one Uh boys and men are not encouraged to express their feelings. It's just not and number two I think biologically we also don't express them kind of naturally as easily So you combine those two things and you get a lot of feelings and really the only feeling that's acceptable that we let out Is just pissed. Yeah, you know, I mean, so it's like I'm sad So I'm gonna let it out as pissed or you know, I'm a little depressed. I'm gonna let out as pissed I'm confused. It's gonna come out as anger into anger. Yeah, let it all come out of anger Hey, was it was it you Justin or you saw yesterday that was talking to me about the uh The movies an SEO thing about the movie that actually like went back and changed their name. Yeah, that was me Yeah, I had just read something It was about Harley Quinn that movie that just came out. Oh birds of prey birds of prey. Yeah, so they had it It was just called birds of prey and so I guess because of that People searching online and everything. I guess they didn't know the actual release state of it or anything And so their their ticket sales were affected by that and so then they went back and in You know put Harley Quinn I think in front of the title and then birds of prey and then they got like a way bigger spike in ticket sales Wow, interesting. So I know it still plays a factor. I know it's still tank though. Well, what? Yeah Why is that why because people are searching Harley Quinn more? I think it might be because birds of prey probably brings up birds of prey You know, like actual birds of prey. Well, I don't think I think too people People don't really know to search that, you know, like that that movie title versus like Harley Quinn I want to see the Harley Quinn movie. That's true. And it's like birds of prey. Like I wouldn't even know to search for that That's true. Oh, that's weird. That's a weird. Now. Did you see what they said because the movie didn't perform well at all? No, they were saying it's because Sexism like the reason nobody watched the movies because it's an all-female cast or whatever. Well, that's what they said about the ghostbusters Yeah, and I was like, no, it just sucked If I get it just There's good ones out there. You know, just like, you know, sometimes they suck Now, you know who loved that movie who watched it and loved it who my 14 year old son Really? I've never seen it. I don't know He's like, but he's like his mom want to take him to the movies and she's like, so what movie do you want to watch? He's like, oh, it's uh, it's like a super villain movie, you know called birds of prey and i'm listening to him like Well, I gotta be honest DC has not been hitting very well No, like they I mean the last wonder woman was did did well. I think and that was great Was joker DC the one that came out with Joaquin. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, of course. It's in that that franchise Yeah, that did you know do very well that one crush But this whole this other, you know series or whatever not doing well But it's funny because my son wanted to watch it and after he hangs up on the phone I'm like, so you like uh You're a fan of uh of that movie, huh? Yeah, which one's your favorite? Uh, super villain. He's like, huh? Right, bro The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I know exactly Why you like He comes home like did you like it? He's like, yeah, it was a great movie and I read the reviews. I'm like, it sucked You're lying. Yeah, dude. Uh, I was also looking up, uh like latest tech stuff Like there was this release of a phone that looks almost like you remember in the 1990s had that flip phone That was I mean it was like a pretty staple phone. Oh the new samsung folding one. Yeah, so but it's not the folding one like Like it folds out. Uh, so so it looks like a tablet. It's like it flips up So like you sit it down and it's flipping up like this you can actually sit it Like on your table and it like, you know, you can take video and stuff from that But then it then it opens all the way up and it becomes like a regular size phone So it's interesting. It just looks it's it's funny because it it's like nostalgic because it goes back to that Like same look of like the no kia flip phone like it now it's all like one screen Oh, it is the whole thing is one screen. No, I didn't I thought didn't samsung They they did a fully model and it didn't do well, right? Didn't they have a bunch of problems with it? Yeah, they came out with this They got like dust and stuff in the cracks of it or whatever and it's like, I know it was a functioning It was just it was just a big deal like like a year ago or less It was this phone that was supposed to fold out and open up to be like a either a massive tablet But they had all kinds of issues. Oh, there it is right there. Look at that. Is that the new? Is that the new one that you're talking about? Yeah, I think uh, yeah, that's it. Yeah So it's there's yeah, that's the samsung one. Yeah. Yeah, so there's the galaxy z flip and the moto razor Yeah, I this is they're getting pretty cool at some point I feel like they're gonna have it's gonna get so flexible that it's gonna be like a tube that you roll out Oh, yeah, I think at some point it's gonna get obsolete like we won't I think it's gonna be like It'll be in your ear all the time and you'll just be able to call sal or text text just And what you'll see in front of your eyeball like in the movie Yeah, well either either that either that or you'll have something else that if you need to display a screen Like it'll be something really small and then it shoots it up on the wall and it'll be well the second Yeah, I wonder when that's gonna happen the big can't be far from that No, and the bottleneck is the is us right the bottleneck between technology this technology is how fast We can search for something and how fast we can receive the information which is limited by natural human barriers The second they can go they can move past that with like, uh, what's his name was talking about that? Yes, yeah Elon that'll be the one of the biggest most incredible breakthroughs don't know what it'll Cause it could be good and bad But the ability to be able to think in search you don't want to be an early adopter to that No, it's gonna be weird. It'll be like a I mean a complete extension of your brain Which is gonna be very very strange It's already wild to me like sometimes I take it for granted like what we have the capability How often does this happen in your day today where You have a question about something whether it be science related or you're debating somebody about this Right, and you and how quick I can look up the opposing argument Argument to support it watch and listen to both of them from like really brilliant minds Like I mean that's just crazy to me that we have access like that Like never in never in history before will we have something like that? It wasn't that long ago that if you got an argument or debate with your friend You just had to argue your side go back and forth you'd ask other people around you to see who they agree with Right, right now. It's like I'm right. No. I'm right. Look it up. I guess you're right. Yeah. Yeah, like that's it We're done really seriously. It's it's wild. I know it's really crazy But all of this it's funny because we thought you know For a long time that if we just had access to all the information We would solve a lot of our problems because we thought a lot of our problems was literally just A lack of information and what we're realizing Is that's a small part of the problem? The next part is is wisdom, which you can't really get from just having information So now we have a bunch of people with access to tons of information But it's not necessarily making them, you know, wiser better people. No, all right Our first question is from emily gregoire fitness I recently started working out with a new trainer who has me doing more chest work than I've ever done before Being a very small breasted woman is my peck development going to make my chest look bigger Okay, that's actually a good question. Usually the the question I get around Chest exercises from women is Are these exercises going to make my shrink smaller? Yeah So one thing to understand is that spot reduction. It actually doesn't happen So what that means is if I train a part of my body, my body doesn't burn Body fat from just that area. It's a systemic Fat loss and your genetics largely determine where you lose fat from So if you're a woman and you're working out and you're getting overall leaner The odds are you will lose some breast size, but it has nothing to do with the chest work It's because you're getting leaner right now as far as the chest exercises. Okay. This is anecdote But from all from the female clients that I trained incline press. Yeah, they all said that it lifted Yeah, that's why I like incline Yeah, because underneath your your your breasts are obviously your peck muscles And if your peck muscles are more developed, it's going to lift Your your your breasts and make them appear to be more whatever perkier or whatnot So it's it's not something you should avoid. That's for sure. Yeah, don't avoid it And we really are it's splitting hairs what we're talking about too Like you're not gonna You're not gonna do a bunch of chest exercises going to make your boobs massive You're not gonna do a bunch of chest exercises going to make them disappear Like it's just it's it's an exercise that you should probably be doing I don't know as a trainer if I would put Extra emphasis in it like if I had a client that was that came to me like, hey You know, is there something we can do to build my boobs or I don't think I would add a In the routine just because I think I think about, uh, you know, the rhomboids like, you know, more so just to be able to support You know good posture with it and exactly and that is because in my experience, uh, I mean Most everybody suffers from some sort of upper cost syndrome I think it's even more common in women than it is in men And I think that for the most part I would be teaching my client because here's the thing too You know, it'll make your boobs look great the standing up with great posture one of my favorite things to take a client Who had this kind of like, you know, this this slouch shoulder forward head And and they would come in and they tell me about how how they want to look and then just they would be kind of Really down on themselves and be a limit and I'd take them over the mirror And I would I would do this posture check with them and I'd hold them that I'm gonna look at yourself You look like when you stand up, right? I don't care man or woman. You stand up, right? And You're you look like you've lost 10 pounds just from good posture So I would put a lot of my energy with with clients, uh, you know felt that way Like the boobs were sagging or my my my curves or my body didn't look good just by getting Her to stand up right have really good posture. Boy really Accentuates all of their curves and their their natural that their body looks already Yeah, so your your posture sends a signal to people on the outside that that gives them a clue As to your physical strength and health. That's obvious But also your emotional state your posture reflects oftentimes your emotional state So if I were to say right now imagine a You know a 17 year old girl who's depressed and sad and now what kind of posture do you automatically imagine? If I say to you think of somebody that just won a sporting event and is has incredible energy What kind of posture do you tend to imagine posture and remember communication is mostly Nonverbal and your posture is part of that So that's a hundred percent right adam when you correct your posture Regardless of anything else, even if you don't change your body composition You're sending a healthier signal and attractiveness is the root of attractiveness is health So all the things that we tend to view as attractive Even though we we try to trick each other with things like Make up and and surgeries and all that and clothes and a lot of stuff At the end of the day really the root of it is you're you're exemplifying health And so when you're healthy You just look much more attractive now as far as this question is concerned I don't I don't think this trainer is emphasizing chest work I think she's just doing more chest work than ever before because In my experience when I trained female clients who have exercise. Yes. Yeah When they have exercise history when I would look at their workouts The the thing that they trained the last the least was always chest. Yeah, there was just something that that's fair Like I don't I definitely don't want to rag on a trainer. I don't know like for all, you know her doing Three sets a week of of chest may be the more than she's ever done ever done before I mean, did you guys ever get that comment from a female client where she's just like, wow We're doing so much chest work. Yeah. Well, this is normal. It's actually balanced Right, you know based off of what you were, you know, what you did before and balance always looks really good imbalances don't so There is a a a healthy balance between The back and the chest and between the upper and lower body, you know, symmetry balance These are terms that you hear in bodybuilding or bikini or physique. So avoiding One part of the body is going to be detrimental to your aesthetics because ballet and they do this with By the way, face when when they try to figure out like the science behind what makes someone Someone's face attractive Symmetry and balance are the two things that we can measure scientifically your body has this as well So you don't want to avoid working a particular area and again spot reduction is a myth So don't worry You're not going to lose your your boobs because you work out your chest on the flip side, you know You're not going to be able to get your stomach leaner by working your abs It's got to be overall leaner and you want to have good balance and you want to have good posture because it It looks healthy and healthy as attractive Next question is from julie casandra. How do you alter your diet or training versus? How do you alter your diet on training versus non-training days? I I love this and yeah, I feel like we're gonna have a Discussion around this because I think you and I are a little different. Yeah. Well, I I really Love to manipulate this like so um, and I do this all the time with weekends, especially I've tracked My movement my activity my workouts So consistently for so long That I I've really got a pretty good idea. So even though I'm not tracking right now I have a good idea of like what a saturday looks like or what a good saturday looks like what a bad saturday looks like And what I mean by good and bad is by my activity level like Am I was I very active that day? Did I you know, did I train like I I need to in order to get my movement and my calorie burn up on a saturday or sunday? In comparison to like a monday where i'm starting my day really early and i'm moving a lot and I normally get my workouts always So I like to adjust my calories that way. I mean we already talk about the benefits of Undulating calories anyways and not having like this, you know Linear calorie intake where it's just like you always, you know, your diet says you eat 13 or 1500 calories or whatever And so every day you do that Um, I just like to break it up like I think and and it makes the most sense to eat less food on the days When I feel like I need the less food because i'm not moving and i'm not pushing the body It's an off day working out. So Uh, I that's what I'll do on my on my training on my training days I I make sure i'm fed. I make sure that I i'm taking care of my body if i'm going to push up on calories a little bit Um, I just just had this the other night with Katrina. We were talking this is like two nights ago And uh, you know, I knew I needed to get at least another like two meals and it was already like six o'clock Because I was just behind on calories and I had a really good hard training session And yes, I could not eat and get benefits of burning more calories But I'm trying to build uh at the moment and I want to make sure that I reap the benefits of a hard training session like that So I want to be fed now if I hadn't trained that day And I'm still behind calories and I'm I would actually not worry about it I would probably skip a meal and be low calorie that day because I'm the the need for the extra calories Is less important when I haven't sent a signal to build muscle if I just sent him a loud signal to build muscle That in my opinion is is the one of the best times to make sure that I'm getting adequate calories and protein Versus a day where I don't train at all a day like that. I might skip a meal Yeah, see this is where I think you and I are different by the way, I don't think there's a wrong answer here So, uh, so the way Adam's doing it perfectly fine. If that's your preference I think that's a great strategy and a lot of what you said makes uh, perfect sense Now for me, it's actually believe it or not. It's a it's a little bit of the reverse On my workout days, I prefer to eat a little bit less. I like to have a lighter feel I like to I'm a little busier typically on the days that I work out So I don't feel like I want to eat as much on the days off I like to eat a little bit more. I feel like it helps me recover on the days in between And here's the other thing that I've and this is my own theory But when you're sedentary, um, you are you're sending an atrophy signal to your muscle Even if you worked out the day before so and again, you can test this yourself You can work out super hard today and then stay in bed for two days and see that you actually end up losing muscle Even though you worked out really hard, you know the day before And I used to do this as a kid I used to think sitting around would help me recover faster later on I realized I actually got to move because I have to continue to send that muscle building signal Now one way to offset that and this is again my theory is to Keep the calories high and keep the protein high High calories high protein by themselves not always. Okay, and it's not this is not a Like a great strategy all the time but in combination with exercise. I think it works great When your calories are high on your protein side by itself independent of workout and anything else It does send a anabolic signal. In fact, if you take The average person don't change anything about their their their lifestyle at all and just bump their calories in a protein You'll see a little bit a tiny bit of muscle mass gain and strength gain now It's limited if you it's not going to get any tons of muscle you end up getting more fat If you if you stay on that path, but there is a bit of a of a boosting effect So when I'm sedentary eating more it feels to me like I am able to send more of that signal So I I would do this also when I was competing and I was really consistent And I too don't I like this strategy I don't coach this way though Because I know the average person doesn't have the same self-discipline as I do And what I what I've noticed with clients Is that if I give them the okay to feed more when they're sedentary? Oh, they just have more access to food Right, they tend to make worse choices great point. And so I agree with everything you're saying and I too will manipulate and play around with my food like that too And I think it's great to go both ways if you have the control and discipline to do both Um, but behaviorally speaking I notice that clients that if I tell them on saturday that they can have a surplus of calories They have a harder time controlling it versus telling them. Hey, you're not moving nor is near as much So we don't need to feed as much. So this is a day. We actually need to reduce And so I'm telling them to reduce knowing too that they still might kind of overeat a little bit So I tend to no, you're right You're 100 right because connecting My activity today to my food intake today is a great strategy to help people Monitor their food intake plus when you're sedentary and you're sitting around you oftentimes Sitting around snack food. Yes sitting or not doing much watching tv Mindless eating starts to happen more cravings. Yes. Absolutely. That's why yeah for me Personally, like I definitely tend to not eat as much if I'm sedentary just because it's just I've conditioned myself to not Seek it out as much because it is it was always craving type foods that I tended to want to gravitate towards Uh with that, you know mentality. So but yeah, I do like going into workouts not with a lot of calories I like to go into the workout but then replenishing Uh, you know after the workout I tend to eat quite quite a bit Yeah, so for for those of you who are who have the discipline to do this I I love to feed myself a lot on the on the days before I have hard workouts Um when I'm more sedentary so I do that then when I go into my workout I have less food, but I did eat the day before right and I have great workouts It's typically a good pumps and I'm really strong So used to always prepare for my workout with my food intake The day before rather than the day of because I like the excess calories the carbs But I don't like the feeling like I just ate so I could go in with the slightly Fasted feeling but also have the energy from the day before Next question is from Tommy James 81 Do you have an elevator pitch for trying to convince family members of the benefits of resistance training? Yeah, you know, uh By by the way, one of mine pumps goals is to convince people, uh of the benefits of resistance strength now the reason For this is because today even now resistance training still Is not considered, uh the the general health form of exercise for the average person When the average person is recommended, you know to to be more active You know if you go to the doctor and the doctor is like, hey, you need to improve your activity or increase your activity Or they think god, I should really exercise more to improve my health The average person typically doesn't think about resistance training. They don't think I'm going to lift weights like my mom Doesn't think I need to be more active. I should go lift weights. She thinks I need to be more active I'm going to walk or get on the treadmill or swim or ride a bike It's all cardiovascular type of activity nothing wrong with that But if you compare them head to head and you had to pick just one resistance training Is superior. So here's the elevator pitch and you've probably heard us say this a million times on the podcast But the same amount of time that you spend resistance training versus other forms of exercise yields you far greater results. I can train someone For you know two at two hours a week That's it two hours a week And over time that two hours a week is going to result in a much faster metabolism and an easier Time maintaining a lean body weight than someone who did two hours of cardio A week or two hours of any other form of exercise. So the pitch is really this What do people really want? They they they want convenience. They don't want to work out a lot Average person is not working out. So how can I do more with less? Sell them on that sell them on the fact that you don't need to work out as much and resistance training will give you better results It'll speed up your metabolism. So you could sit there and burn more calories Without having to do more exercise those in my opinion have been the best Like I think the best sales points if you will with resistance training, you know, this is the really this is really hard, right? Trying to convince a family member who who doesn't want to work out to work out And I haven't had a lot of success with this at all To the point where I've got to a point where I just don't even worry about it I just I try and live my life as an example as best I can wait for them to ask and wait for them to ask and That in my opinion is one of the best. The other thing is this is This reminds me of something that like I'm reading this Book right now called great great teams 16 things that all great teams do or something shit like that And it's talking about leadership stuff and It reminds me of the success that I have had though with some family getting getting through to them That wasn't working on and the way I got through to them is to make them feel something Right, I could sit there and break the science down all day long and and talk about the benefits of it And the difference of lean mass versus fat mass and blah, blah, blah, blah And try and sell sell sell them on it and for the most part I'm not going to get through to them But if I can show them something and make them feel something Then then maybe I can get the buy-in and this is true in just leadership But this is a very good important thing to do with your staff and building a culture and Same thing goes for for leading your family into the gym and for me I like to find something posture or aches and pains because I can show them something Like right then and there that sometimes will just blow somebody's mind like somebody I'll have a family member that's like You know complaining of chronic hip pain or low back pain or shoulder pain and they've just and in their mind They're just old. They're just old and it's always nagging them And when I can get to the root of what's going on if it's obviously not an acute injury where they They tore something or broke a bone and it's just chronic pain I can normally give them a few movements To to relieve it like instantly right then and there and when they feel that and the and you just spent like Five minutes with them doing something That's the things that normally would if I got somebody that would perk them up because most people just We all want to you know lose a little bit of body fat build a little bit of muscle Look a little bit better. You're not gonna do that in a couple sessions. Right. You can't do that Right. You can't even do that in a great workout I can I can show you a workout and it'd be amazing workout But you're not gonna give them that But a good portion of my family deals with chronic pain It's just as you age and get older and if you haven't addressed your movement patterns More than likely your family member is dealing with either knee hip shoulder back something And if you learn and understand the body well enough or you have something like maps prime pro shame was plugged but if you if you've got a tool like that And you can help them by showing them that and then when they feel that Man, it's a lot easier to convince them on the importance of coming in and exercising and training That to me has been the most success with a you know, quote-unquote Elevator pitch to somebody because I feel like I could try and sell you all day long on something and it just ain't gonna happen I've had a very similar experience and mainly mainly like Waiting, you know, I waited out till till they'll come ask, you know They obviously know what I do for a living and so it's like it presents itself Sometimes to where I can kind of you know steer them in that direction But usually it is it is through like some kind of a pain or some kind of a condition or something They're going through that I know that okay This is going to at least start building the conversation in that direction like For my dad for instance, he's been doing the same routine forever He goes to the spa and he does the stare master and he does all stuff And now he's experiencing all this repetitive stress pain and and for me to just kind of Take him through and show like You know how to correct that Through mobility but also through like proper mechanics and squatting and adding resistance to that building strength around the hips and You know, it's really been helping you know alleviate a lot of pain And so I think pain is a very very effective tool to You know to really convince people that this is this is the best tool for the job It is to get stronger overall like that's where you're going to be in a place where You know doing the rest of your life is going to be that much better. Your quality is just going to go way up Oh, yeah, this is what you do as a trainer when you would get a potential client If you could show them what you could show them pain. It's the best conversation in one session You're going to get a new client. You ain't going to show them fat loss. You ain't going to show muscle building You know what that means to be clear The only success I've ever had with convincing family members to to do resistance training are ones who already made the decision to start working out Then it's a matter of what kind of workout, you know, so they come to me and say, you know what? I need I need to start exercising. I think I'm gonna start right. What do you think I should do? That's when the resistance right you never walked up to one of your family members who's morbidly obese or has Poked them in the belly Yeah, yeah and said or had a pitch that got them all of a sudden to wake up and train Like those people aren't gonna live they weren't doing it before they got to this place They're not doing it. You're like at dinner all of a sudden you bring the projector out Now that I got you, you know what though? So I was that trainer in my first early 20s I was so excited. Matter of fact, I know I remember like I remember got in a fight with one of my buddies Like literally a fist fight over him. Yeah. Yeah, I'm because he was so annoyed at hearing me like talk We would we go on this annual trip Uh, I know I've shared with you guys maybe off air maybe not on this show before that We used to do this every year. We go up to like trinity, which is up to shasta We go up there for 10 days same friends same people like 50 people go and meet at these campsites and we go there And you know when I we I've been doing this since I was a kid Well, you know after high school college and then moving to San Jose then getting a job as a personal trainer 20 years old Fell in love with a job. I mean, I've we've all talked about this like how much we were passionate about it Hey, when you're truly passionate about something you fucking talk about it But in your 20 and you don't have this probably the social awareness or self-awareness to know that you're annoying everybody Yeah, yeah, right. So but the people I'm talking to they want to hear it It's the other people that are always around me like my best friend who I got in a fight with is just like because he was always Constantly, yeah, all you do enough. Yeah. Yeah tired of tired of hearing hearing me talk about my job, but You know, that's how I was I was trying to sell everybody on how amazing it is and why you need to do this and You know, I'm nobody fucking was drinking the cooler except for myself, you know So you learn as you get older and you've been in training for a long time that It's it's like anything else you're not gonna people have to want to do it first if they're gonna do it The best thing is just to be the example and then what people start to wonder is why is You know, why is Justin have so much energy or why does Adam always look so good? It's like pushing a religion on somebody. It's totally. It's like being a bible thumper. Nobody likes nobody Nobody likes that guy or girl. Just be the example. Yes, you be the example You want to be the person who they like, oh my god Sal is fucking almost whatever you're doing. How he looks like and look how good he moves like tell me more, you know Next question is from that fly guy What's the best way to learn how to eat new healthy foods that you haven't enjoyed in the past? I can't stand salmon and most fish But I want the health benefits. Can you teach yourself to like new foods? Oh, you completely, dude I've done this a lot lately. You totally can do this one of the big problems with With I guess Modern life and in our food is that we've only learned to value food for its palatability And if that's the only value you place on food, yeah, you're not going to like a lot of stuff You're going to like only the stuff that is super hedonistic while you eat it But you can make associations and by the way food companies know this they've been advertising to you In this way for a long time. Once you I'll give you an example I'll tell a story. I've told this story before but I love it because it was one of my favorite learning experiences with a client I had a client that had one of the worst diets you've ever seen in your whole entire life Never ate any vegetables ever made her gag made her throw up now over time I slowly convinced her to at least try I would tell her eat one broccoli floret Uh to start with once a week and what she would do is she would track how she felt Once she got to the it's a point where she was eating like a serving here and there She started to write things down like digestion is better mood feels better I have more energy. My skin is starting to look better as she started to Make those connections and associate the vegetables With those good feelings She started to actually desire to eat the broccoli She started to want to eat the broccoli And because of that association you actually learn To like the taste you actually learn to enjoy the taste this happened to me with fish When I I hated fish when I was a kid could not stand fish whatsoever Then you know fast forward. I'm in my mid 20s And I go to Italy and by this point I started to really understand good nutrition I started to understand the the bent the value of fish and so I said to myself look I'm going to Italy It's a country right in the Mediterranean. I mean I have access to incredible fish. They eat a lot of fish there anyway I'm going to go and I'm just going to try it. I'm just going to try it I'm going to pay attention to how I feel by the end of my vacation. I actually developed a An appreciation for fish now Don't get me wrong a steak in terms of the taste and palatability kicks the crap out of fish for me However, I went from someone who hated fish To someone now who had learned to enjoy it. So you totally well, and if you're not a big fish eater I wouldn't recommend jumping to salmon first either I would I would recommend going somewhere like sea bass mahi mahi halibut Like the wider fishes like if you're not a fish lover You know salmon has a strong fish salmon taste unless you have like if you go somewhere and get That's to me when you find amazing salmon is when it doesn't taste fishy Right like amazing really good fresh salmon. Yeah, it doesn't taste fishy But if you're not a fish lover already and you go directly to salmon, it's not a good place to start I would always start somebody off with the halibut the sea bass the mahi mahi. I'm trying to think what else I love Yeah, so got me into it was a halibut. Yeah. My god. Those are amazing meaty meaty taste to it It's meaty. It doesn't taste fishy. It even has like this buttery It saw like it just doesn't taste anything like salmon salmon is Salmon is fishy. All right, and it took me a long time to like like salmon So and I was just like you sell I didn't like fish at all Um, and it took me a long except for uh, tuna and drowned it in mayonnaise when I was a kid Right, so that's how I ate that when I was a kid other than that I ate no fish till I got older same thing Had to like kind of make myself like it and the and I did too because everyone talks about all that the benefits of Salmon, we all know that salmon is like one of the most nutrient rich fish that you can get So as I started to learn about that I began to try and force myself to eat salmon and it was it was rough for me to do that When I then I found like halibut and sea bass and all these other fishes and like oh my god Like I love those Then I got used to eating that a lot and then entered and having salmon different ways like and now I mean My favorite thing to have is uh, salmon sashimi like I'll eat raw salmon now. I love that Yeah, it's funny I mean this is still a bit of a struggle for me as you guys know like in terms of like sushi and everything else And eating fish in general But like I used to have a really good association with it to start with because I fished like I would fish Makes a difference and then I would cut and and do the like I would you know Like got it and everything and cook it myself and it was like fantastic, but uh, you know somewhere along the lines I I went away from it And then I had a bad experience because I was like eating it in the midwest somewhere and it was just like I had Just like bad examples of fish I think you know to kind of You know rekindle that like it does make sense to go somewhere where you're like right next to the coast or You're near a lake or you know make sure like you're in a fresh spot And it's not like being transferred there from somewhere else Uh and just start like slowly, you know incorporating it back in and I'm trying even right now Like I tolerate it like if somebody serves it to me, I'm gonna eat it. You know, it's fine But I'm not seeking it out like I should be uh, but yeah, I had the same thing with with uh vegetables I mean I grew up and it was like I mean Looking back now too because my dad was uh an only child and he would actually my My grandma was sick all the time. So he actually cooked for everybody in his family even as a kid And so, you know as a kid what do you want to eat? It's all bland. It's you know, it's it's very simple Like microwavables crap. And so like that was his palette and then he brought that into our family And then we're just eating like an example of a salad was like iceberg lettuce And celery and carrots and like ranch And like that's what I grew up with, you know, I mean so it's taken I've taken a lot of steps And I get a hard time everywhere I go, you know from from Courtney and her family But like I've done a lot of work on this and like I'm I'm eating Associations to food is a real thing Look if to most Americans if you walk into a market and you smell a strong fish smell Most of us are like, oh, that's gross In asian countries, it's not to them. The association is totally different They smell the fishy smell from a market. It's like, yes, I'm around really good food hungry price That's right. It's it's the associate like Jessica did the same thing She grew up eating zero vegetables as a kid zero. She ate nothing. She almost subsisted entirely On heavily processed food as she got older and learned about health She slowly introduced vegetables started to identify the value that was providing her body Built that association and now she loves vegetables. Oh, I was the same way. We didn't it wasn't until even dug I I hated brussel sprouts. I eat brussel sprouts bowls as I go to Every week now, dude, that used to be a food that we made fun of his kids. Yeah, you remember that? Oh, totally think about it this way. Here's another good example I bet most people have a food that they ate as a kid that they associated with like fun or something like that That if you didn't have that association, it would literally be disgusting like I'll give you an example Uh macaroni and cheese in the box, right craft macaroni and cheese It's gross. That's it's good. It's disgusting. But you know what I associated it with chop up some hot dogs in it terrible It's garbage, but when I was a kid Five cheese when I was a kid when we would have my cousins over I had cousins that liked it for whatever reason And so it was like this special treat and you know what my mom was like, whatever I'll buy it for and she'd make it and it was this fun food So now to this day if I smell it or I taste it It have that positive fun association. No, you're so right. You can 100 train yourself this way It just takes time But start to associate your food with its other values besides just the hedonistic value of it Otherwise, you'll be stuck eating the the the processed hyper palatable Foods or the foods you grew up eating that you're super used to and with that go to mind pump free.com And download all of our guides resources and books. We have a ton up there that are totally free They'll help you out with your fitness. 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