 Good evening. Thank you for being with us tonight. We are going to begin the meeting around 535 to give everybody a chance to Join us and get settled in. Thank you. Hi Can you hear me? You can hear you Michelle. No You can start your camera whenever you're able can't hear you try try again. Oh Oh Can you hear me? Yes. Yeah and see me. Yes, so you can you can see me cuz I can't see I'm only seeing Jen We can see you okay um, and if We can begin at 535 So another minute And whenever you're ready That's good others Quite a few people Rachelle you we can get going anytime. You're ready. Go ahead. I think we I think we've got a lot of people already So if you want to get started well, I start then Go ahead Okay. Hi. Hi everyone. My name is Rachelle and I'm What I'd like to just welcome you all and thank you for coming. It's a pretty important Opportunity for us in Santa Rosa We are the biggest city in the county and we're going to be able to utilize some monies that we that we all voted for I'm a couple years ago and This meeting tonight is mostly for the sports and athletic groups that use the park. There's course parks For all sorts of other things neighborhood parks, etc Trails and walking and things but this meeting is mostly for the sports and athletic groups that use and permit some of the parks around So I want to introduce Jen Santos she is a deputy director of the parks and will be Co-hosting or hosting this and there's a few other people that will be moving along and And Emily Anders also will be the host so Do we Move on or I'm not sure do I knit and push the next slide button kind of oh there You just have to let Host and or know that you want her to roll to the next slide, but that's good. You're good to go Okay, so anyway, we're the presenters and they'll be you can see the agenda there That's gonna go through it is a an hour basically an hour and a half meeting maybe a little bit longer We're trying to incorporate question and answers so that people can ask them along the way the It is really important that we get Background for the parks department to present to the city the city council and measure and require You know evidence so to speak and and this is one of the pieces and rolling through for the next year There'll be other kinds of things as well For the next steps. So next slide. Okay, and I'll I'll take it from here Okay, thank you so much and I wanted to thank thank you for being here. It's really important for us to have the sports community represented here and Michelle's Rachelle's helped us Get to where we're at with this Presentation and although we think it's a little long We hope to you know, we hope to roll through it quickly This information is super important so that when we are having conversations with the council members as well as Executives we can provide this information to them and We also wanted you to know that there is some we do have some limitations with the polling we can do in this Zoom setting so we will be sending you all a Separate survey that you can take where you can type to your heart's content Answers and things that you need to tell us that we aren't able to collect tonight So just so you know when you're taking this polling, you'll have another opportunity to provide additional feedback So just to get us started with an overview of what is measure M. So the Sonoma County voters passed this in 2018 it's an 8th since sales tax that is for 10 years going till 20 29 And it provides an estimate of 1.9 million annually to the city of Santa Rosa by itself Other agencies in the county collect different fees based on the tax But since we're the largest city we get a pretty large percentage of that It's dedicated exclusively to improving parks and recreation needs And also there's a maintenance of effort. So when we applied for this we need to keep the same amount of Maintenance and commitment we had in the beginning next slide, please and so This list here is exactly taken verbatim from the measure. These are the specific allowable uses in the measure M We've highlighted in blue there things we think are more specific directly to sports and sports activities And it involves maintenance as well as improvements. So that's why we are here today to ask you What's more? What is important to you? What are your priorities next slide, please? And so When we decided how we were going to spend this money We thought of ways to move forward and we recognized at that time that we had a really heavy need To recover the parks that were fire damage. So counsel in 2019 dedicated The first two years of funding from receive from measure M to recovering the fire damage parks from the 2017 fire they also Provided funding for a deferred maintenance priority list. So we're going to go out to the parks this year and find out What kind of condition they're in and make a really good assessment of the conditions of the park We have a good idea, but this list will give us a definitive idea and The third thing is develop and implement a community outreach plan and that's what we're doing here tonight We're asking the community and specifically the sports community tonight What are the priorities that we should be using for this for these funds that we're going to receive for the next 10 years? next slide and so When we're done collecting all this data in the community including tonight's data We're going to return to council in spring of 2021 to have a discussion with the council about what the next Three to ten years should be What we should be spending on that what our priority should be And we'll be settling in on an updated schedule for spending Next slide, please Let's see so Before we get to our next, you know community polling we want to also talk about the sources of funding the recon parks team receives Separate from measure M just so you get a good sense of where we have funds and where we do not have funds So if we're looking to have park improvements, we receive parks We receive funds through the park development impact fees per quadrants of the city and we'll go over that in the next slide We also can request One-time funds occasionally from the general fund for special projects. It's very rare Which is why we have park development impact fees for developing parks And we apply for lots of grants every year two to three grants at least every year to try to see funds and help double our money or at least Find the funds we can't usually find for things The recreation program itself is funded staffing with general fund and they also receive some special funds from measure O for neighborhood services programs and For park maintenance That's all the staffing and mowers and blowers and trucks and things they need is all funded from the general fund And then we have a deferred maintenance need So those are things that think things that need to be have heavy repairs to them or have updates And there's no specific funding source for those things That's where we struggle to find funds for those particular items And so this you know, we wanted to present that to you so you could think about that as we roll forward And I don't know if we show you had anything else to add or I know we talked about this particular side a little earlier I Know I think you covered that. I we had asked that question. You're you're fine there. Okay. Thank you Okay, next slide, please Okay, so here's where I was talking about We Park development impact fee zones and this is a map from the general plan And if you look at the line that's going essentially up and down or north and south That's highway 101 and the horizontal line is highway 12 So the city receives funds from residential subdivisions and developers developing throughout the city Who instead of providing park land our dedicating park land provide in lieu park fees and they are collected per quadrant so Northwest Quadrant Southwest Northeast Southeast and The funds are then spent in those quadrants. They stay in there Occasionally funds can be combined from different quadrants in order to facilitate Something unique in the city So it's not completely exclusive, but generally the funds do stay in those quadrants So we wanted to share that with you. So you had a good idea and Also, we're going to roll into some polling in just a minute and I want you to take a look and decide or Try to do your best to figure out where you live Because it's one of the simple things that we can ask and we do like to know From our participants Quadrant you do live and it helps us understand the bigger picture and so if you live essentially north of highway 12 and West of highway 101 you're going to be in the Northwest Quadrant youth community park is over there and we've got a place to play in that quadrant as well and if you go into the Southwest Quadrant, which is south of highway 12 and West of 101 hope I'm getting that. All right for those of you listening on phones Rose and Creek Community Park is down there Bear Park and then in the Northeast Quadrant You're going to be north of highway 12 and east of highway 101 So you've got Nagasawa Park up there Francis Nielsen things like that and the Southeast Quadrant is south of highway 12 and East of 101 and We've got Galvin Community Park out there Bennett Valley Martin Luther King Park as well as Howard Park in that quadrant and before we get into the polling I have a few more introductions to do. I wanted to introduce Those folks you see here that you don't see their faces, but you might see their names We have host Emily Ender who's helping us host the meeting tonight as well as host Mary Lou Nichols Who's going to help they're doing all the magic behind the scenes here helping us advance slides And there's a lot going on behind the scenes to get us to where we're at We also have Amy Rockwell-Witts who is our recreation supervisor And she's going to help facilitate questions and answers if there's anything on the recreation side during your question and answer period She can help us with that just in case and We wanted to let you know there might be some slight delays when we're advancing slides But bear with us. We're working through all of our background virtual meeting components and sometimes it takes a minute or two And I have some information to read so you kind of get a sense of how we're going to do questions and answers and polling So members of the public joining this meeting you will have your microphones muted if you're phoning in to join the meeting and you choose to speak during the question and answer period or The public information portion of the meeting for privacy concerns The host will rename you to caller and only show the last four digits of your phone number Additionally, the city of Santa Rosa is committed to providing a safe and inclusive environment Free from disruption and will not tolerate hateful speech or actions Everyone is expected to participate respectfully or if necessary the meeting will end immediately Madam host will you please explain how public comments will be heard at today's meeting? Yes, madam facilitator Throughout the presentation the facilitator will open the floor for questions and answers and public comments The host will lower all hands until the public comments item is open Once the facilitator has called for public comment the facilitator will ask the public to raise their hand if they wish to speak Those joining by phone may dial star nine to raise your hand The host will then call on those who have read have raised their hands The host will unmute your microphone for your comment and then we'll mute you once you are finished speaking a courtesy timer will appear while you ask your question or make your comment the Facilitator presenter or host will respond to each question or comment as it is raised You will need to raise your hand again if a follow-up question is generated based upon the response you've received I also want to let you know that there is an opportunity to ask questions throughout the presentation By clicking the question and answer feature in your zoom toolbar and typing in your question The host will keep an eye on these questions and will answer them in writing as time allows or will ask the presenters to answer them live at intervals throughout the presentation Any questions that are not answered during the presentation will be addressed during the questions and public comment periods during the presentation Thank you, madam facilitator. All right. Thank you host Andrew And so take one last look at this map and remember the places where you live We're going to roll into a very easy poll Asking you essentially some basic information so you can get used to how to respond in the virtual setting and then we'll roll into Our sports questions after we give some information. So can we start the next slide and look at the polling, please? I just want to speak briefly about the polling All the poll questions will be either single or multiple choice You must answer all questions in order to submit your responses The submit button is at the very end of the poll. So you may need to scroll down To the bottom of your screen in order to find it If you are completing the poll on your smartphone, you must answer the first question Before you can answer the second question Etc. If you are participating in the meeting via a landline, you will not be able to participate in the poll at this time However, the poll will be turned into a survey and sent out via an email on Monday as Jen mentioned earlier and That survey will be available for two weeks once everyone has completed the poll and it has been closed the results will appear immediately and The facilitator will walk you through the results. Thank you very much. Thank you, host ander All right, let's let's start this polling And so this is that first question about generally where do you live? It's nice for us and if you live outside the city limits. No problem. We have a selection there for you I know some of our coaches and folks live outside the city limits, but still use Still use our parks. And so we've got it divided up there for Northwest, Northeast, Southwest and Southeast And then of course your age group and how often do you visit Santa Rosa Parks and Recreation. So it's a pretty basic questions. Hopefully we can Help facilitate that for you and give you a couple more minutes. We do have If any of you were able to attend the first measure and meeting this spring. We do have plenty of time for the polls. I know the last one. There was a timer we discovered during the meeting. There was a timer. These do not have time or so we have plenty of time so I'll be checking in with the host to see how we're doing, but give you a couple minutes there or a minute. Are we doing host ander We have 15 of 21 Submitted Okay, give a little bit More And then we'll go ahead and close it We're at 16 of 21 and it's holding steady. Okay, let's go ahead and look at the results. So this will be fun. We get to see the results live similar to our in person meeting, which is fun. So now we can get a sense of essentially where folks are participating in this meeting from a lot of folks from the Northeast Quadrant. And outside the city limits. And pretty good spread on age groups and we've got folks visiting our parks every day at 50%, which is great. Right. So that's pretty good results easy. Hopefully you've gotten used to how to respond on your computer or electronic device. Are we good to move forward host ander have we collected all the information. I will turn that over to host Nichols to find out she's working on that in the things I need just a few more minutes. Just so the public knows zoom doesn't do a very good job of sharing these results. And so It's helpful if we can write down what we're seeing right now because we don't get to see it again. Okay, we can move on. Thank you. Thank you so much. So we wanted to roll into a section talking about our sports programs and where everything is located. We're going to start big. Here's the map again from general plan that shows in green the city's parks as well as it shows the Anadale State Park and the county Spring Lake Park and Our baseball park at the top there or Shiloh Regional Park at the top there and the trees, those red trees you see on there are future or proposed Locations for new parks in the city. And so let's roll into the next slide. And so here's another way of looking at it with everything stripped away except Highway 101 and Highway 12 showing the quadrants. All the green is the City's park system overall. And let's look at it by the numbers. Next slide, please. So here's kind of a big picture overview of the entire parks system. And one thing we discovered is that all of us in Reckon Parks collect information differently. And so you'll see we have two Bachi courts at Dimeo and Juilliard. That's just we have two areas of Bachi at two different parts. It doesn't mean we, you know, we have a lot of Bachi actual courts, but it's just showing two areas, whereas the basketball is showing actual courts. We also have area numbers for handball horseshoe and horseshoe as well. Those are just numbers. So if we have those things at a park, it's just listed once And we get that from our GIS information or geographical information system. Whereas the recreation team uses different numbers because they're looking at rentable spaces and we kind of look at those a little differently. So soccer, we have 18 soccer fields that are used for rentable spaces and we have 15 tennis areas. Obviously, we have more courts. It looks like that's listed by Areas of Fenley, Galvin and Howard and some of those some of those courts are pickleball. So we have eight pickleball combined with tennis. And we have five. It looks like areas of baseball and softball. So you may be thinking of it in different terms, but we just wanted to give you a big sense, the big picture. You don't need to call us and tell us we got a number wrong. We totally get it. We understand, but we just want to see the big picture of some of the sports that are available here at the city. And so as you're looking and thinking about this. Are there any other sports that need to be brought to the city or should we be thinking of other sports. And so we just want to give you a sense of that. Next, next slide, please. And so here's just a, you know, quick overview of the Northeast Quadrant will zoom in a little bit and so The green outlines are the existing parks and you can see Highway 101 and 12th there. So zooming in, you can really see some of those Some of those parks and you can see Franklin Park kind of off to the left of the center there with our soccer fields and and baseball. And let's go into the next quadrant, the Southeast Quadrant, I believe, getting off of my Northeast Quadrant. Sorry. And so same thing here. We just wanted to make sure that we are Looking at what sort of fields we have per quadrant and so 18 total fields and courts here against they don't represent every single Soccer field necessarily we we try to generalize. Sometimes they might be used for one big field might be used for two two practices. And so we've got some horseshoe courts as well as handball. Let's look at the map. Next slide, please. And so if you look at the map when we talk about Southeast Quadrant. We're talking south of 12 and east of 101. So we've got Coana Springs and the big sports park for us for the city of Santa Rosa, Galvin is in there, as well as we have a soccer field at Martin Luther King. So I've got quite a bit going on at Galvin Community Park. And so you can kind of see some of our larger parks in there. Next slide, please. And we've got 11 total sports and fields in the Southeast Quadrant, with four half basketball courts and one full court. And we've got tennis as well. At Howard Park. And I think we might. Yeah, I think we've probably put actually Howard Park in the Northeast Quadrant and Galvin Park in the Southeast Quadrant. So sorry about that. But the idea is to get you thinking about what sort of sports are in the city and generally where they're located. Next slide, please. And so if we move over to the Southwest Quadrant of town, just a reminder for you for some of the types of sports that are out here in our green is the parks and we have Bear neighborhood park here. We also have Southwest Community Park. We have soccer and baseball at that park, which is really, really, really popular. And we also have four full basketball courts as well. And we have a volleyball at Bear Park. Thank you. Oh, we don't say anything. We do actually have one there. So I that's what I wanted to make sure I'm talking to you about some of the stuff that is there. So Bear is a relatively newer park. And so we do have volleyball at Bear Park, although it's not something necessarily rented from a recreation perspective. All right, so I would say Southwest is Southwest Community Park is one of our larger parks for sports. And finally, finishing off at the Northwest Quadrant. Up there, of course, we've got our big soccer baseball park, a place to play the big rectangular park down near the bottom left corner of your screen. And so this would be north of Highway 12 and west of 101. And we also have Northwest Community Park with baseball, soccer and rugby. And although Youth Community Park is shown at the top right part of the screen, we aren't able to fit any soccer fields in there just at this time. We still need to do environmental analysis. But we've got quite a bit going on in each in each quadrant. And so here's another here's it. Here's the quadrant by the number. So we've got 34 different types of sports going on or fields or courts in the Northwest Quadrant. So quite a few. And then I believe we have a summary. Yeah, I do have a summary. And so this kind of gives you one glance, look at the sports fields overall. And we're looking at lighted fields and courts that we have out there as well. It's not necessarily we found out things that we collect data on, but it's important. We know to the sports community. We hear from the teams a lot that lighted fields, especially in the fall and winter like now, are very important. And so we've got in the Southeast Quadrant, the 11 tennis courts and for youth tennis courts at at Galvin. And then in the Northwest, we've got three lighted softball areas. And in the Northeast, we've got a softball tennis courts and pickleball lighted and that would be thinly community center for the tennis and pickleball. All right, so we just as hopefully that gives you a good sense and gets you thinking about the types of sports we have here at the city. Generally where they're located. We know some of the numbers are a little bit off on our slideshow tonight, but we wanted to give you a big picture and remind you of where we were at. So I'm going to turn it back over to Rochelle. And if you have anything else to add, Rochelle, we do have a community poll specific about sports and I'm so glad that Rochelle could join us because she's been in the community for 20 plus year in sports and she has a lot of valuable insight. And so I'm going to turn it back over to you, Rochelle, to Dr. Paul. Okay, thanks. So actually, I have to say that I've been around for 60 years. And so I've lived through all my life and I have seen things grow from different, the only parks were just Doyle Park and Howard Park way back. In the day. And then a few things happened and Franklin and finally in the 90s, the, it was a community trust, a ball trust, softball, baseball, archery, I don't know, several different, and all soccer came in and started paying for the ball. To put into a field trust and those monies helped to develop Galvin because the city has never been able to really afford to purchase that kind of land and do those things, but Galvin's a beautiful park and a wonderful park. Out in the north, no, southeast quadrant. But that was in the 90s. And finally, the city also the new sport of the decade with soccer. And the city finally came into a field trust and those monies helped to develop Galvin because the city has never been able to really afford to purchase that kind of land and do those things, but Galvin's a beautiful park and a wonderful park out in the north, but that was in the 90s. And finally, the city also the new sport of the decade with soccer, and the city finally was able to put in fields at place to play the first three fields were soccer and a couple of baseball fields. There it's not lighted. It is a fabulous park in terms of being able to gather kids for tournaments or other kinds of things and yet it's not lighted. So that's, that's an issue. And I want to say, when you're going through these next kinds of things kind of take a look or think about how that affects us. Our whole city, every single sports team in soccer every single sport has to go out of town to be able to play and that's just ridiculous when we are the biggest city of the county. You know, in contrast, Petaluma is a third of our size and has four lighted fields and four artificial turf fields and that's the other point I was always I've been trying to make for 10 years. Artificial fields are more supportive of gathering more people because you can play all year round on it. And while we are in a drought that's really not a great way to get fields, you know when it's rainy we don't have them. So, I go ahead and go to the next slide I just want you to think of those kinds of things I know that there's tennis and there's other sports and stuff but some of my background, a lot of my background comes from soccer so Before we get into the community poll do we want to open open the floor up for questions and public input. One question that perhaps Jen could answer live that was just typed into the Q&A, which is, does the city have any plans for adding future lights to any of our current soccer fields. Yes. Overall yes we are working hard at looking at options for lighting different fields. As you all know this could our community knows a lot of our existing parks are embedded in neighborhoods that have been established without lights so it is a little bit of an uphill battle for some of these but we are definitely committed to looking at options for lighting fields, including future options for a place to play. So the answer is yes nothing specific yet but we are moving that direction. You know, I am going to turn it back to the host to talk about how to ask a question. Otherwise, if anybody else has any questions before we roll into our sports questions we have for you all. So I'm just going to go over this each time we have the opportunity for question answer and public input, in case anyone joins in the middle of the meeting. Raise your hand now if you wish to speak. Those joining by phone may dial star nine to raise your hand. Host nickels will then call on those who have raised their hands. The host will unmute your microphone for your comment and then we'll meet you once you are finished speaking. A courtesy timer will appear while you ask your question or make your comment. Your presenter or host will respond to each question or comment as it is raised. You will need to raise your hand again. If a follow up question is generated based upon the response received. Do we have any questions. Yes, we have several speakers. The first is Derek Huntington, followed by Josh Sterling Derek, please unmute your microphone. I'm able to your speaking permissions. I'll lower your hand and you may provide your comment. Can you see the courtesy timer. I can. Thank you. Please provide your name for the record if you so choose and provide your comment. Your time begins now. Yeah, my name is Derek Huntington. I am the current vice president of ranking Valley little league, which would be in the Northeast quadrant. Primarily, but we also have operations throughout the suit this, the city at Galvin Park Franklin Park, we can valley community park. My primary comments are related to, you know, what the needs of the league would be for our players in our community. Actually, I'm in charge of permitting fields for the league. And I'm struggling to find a location for assessments, an all weather field location for assessments that are held mid to end of January. Our normal sources are our school turf fields or Santa Rosa junior colleges, all weather facility but all of those facilities are currently not being permitted because of the COVID pandemic and so we're running into a situation where, you know, we're either going to need to hold them at our own facilities, or try to permit, you know, some some grass and dirt fields which may or may not, you know, be be good with weather and everything. So, you know, I would say that the primary need from the baseball community, speaking from our community of almost 800 players a year. We've been up to 900s in some cases. And we're looking at a season between five and 600 in 2021, even given the pandemic is a need for an all weather and and and lighted facilities, you know, to have access for our assessments, but also, you know, the ability to play year round, and to be able to train. I also am running a nonprofit that sponsors baseball teams and, you know, is we're we're again challenged to find lighted locations that have been lucky with the weather. So far this year. So, you know, all weather facilities great. I've heard, you know, and Emily, I believe mentioned that there's there's conversations about, you know, potentially all weather fields a place to play, which would be a fine location we'd be happy to go across town if that's where the space is. And yeah, being able to hold tournaments here as well. You know, I'm also connected to travel ball community in a number of ways would be great, and would require, you know, you know, let's call it through two to four fields available at the same time in the same location to really manage, you know, baseball tournament over a weekend. So I appreciate all these efforts and and excited about the potential for these funds. And thank you for the time I'm done. Thank you, Derek. Josh sterling you are next I am allowing your speaking permissions please unmute your microphone state your name for the record if you so choose and begin your comment your time starts now. Hello, everyone. Thanks. Josh sterling vice president Santa Rosa United soccer. I could probably just say that I would want to comment what Derek said but for soccer, but I just sort of wanted to share a little bit of what I'm doing right now. I'm listening to you guys super excited to what you guys are talking about. And thanks for having us all comment in. I'm sitting in my car parked at s park and roner park. So my son trains down here three days a week, because we're not able to have lit field or we do not have lit fields up in Santa Rosa anywhere. So three days a week I come down here. I do everything going on. I go shopping at target in roner park. I grab my gas in roner park. I get food in roner park. And I'd much rather be doing all that in Santa Rosa, not just driving as far as well. So just the echoing the need for lit feet, lit fields. So I think that this lit grass fields would obviously be okay, but it's really prohibits us to be able to play soccer during the winter and if you've ever seen a soccer field after a rain and letting people on it. It's not very good soccer field anymore after one or two rain so all weather fields, lit fields. And as Michelle pointed out, you know, you can look around to the other cities and, you know, smaller populations but more lit fields so just echoing what Derek said for a different sport. I think all weather even multi sport fields with lights and all weather would be a huge asset to the city of Santa Rosa. So thanks for your time just wanted to add some comments and a real life story. Thank you, Josh. Our next speaker is tail Alexander tail. I am enabling your speaking permissions. Please unmute your microphone. State your name for the record. If you so choose and your time begins now. Yeah, this is tail Alexander. Thank you for the time. I just want to briefly correct a couple of us in Santa Rosa there are eight designated courts for our in the Northeast Northeast quadrant at Howard Park, and for our in the Northwest quadrant at Finley, which also has two temporary lines drawn on tennis courts. I just want to reiterate the desperate need for new and quality pickleball courts in the city of Santa Rosa. Those eight courts that I mentioned the surfaces are not very adequate quality there's bubbles and there's cracks everywhere, only the four at Howard are lit it would be terrific to have other lit courts at night. You know, rotor park is pulled way ahead of us and putting in a bunch of new pickleball courts their higher quality and when they start having statewide or national tournaments there and or league play people from around the county around the state and around the country are going to go there and spend their money there and not in Santa Rosa. We need to catch up Windsor's putting in new courts also we need to catch up in Santa Rosa, especially per our population. And the number of people here are now playing pickleball it grows and it grows and it grows the population of pickleball players. We need improved and increased number of pickleball facilities. So I'm more advocating here than asking questions. And I did owe on the comments about meeting lit courts, just like the fields are necessary lit courts are necessary for the students and the workers in Santa Rosa who play pickleball after in the evenings. So thank you for your time. That's all I had to say. Thank you, tail. Our next speaker is James Elliott. James, I am enabling your speaking permissions, please unmute your microphone. State your name for the record if you so choose, and your time begins now. Thank you so much. This is James Elliott, parent and board member at Santa Rosa United soccer. As of today I'm a Windsor resident by tomorrow, hopefully if the moving company shows up on time will be Santa Rosa residents. So what we really need are lit multi sport fields, you know, I'm a soccer parent that's clearly clearly something that that I know that we need. But in being a soccer parent of an of a kid who actively plays and traveling, both when are within our local county, and seeing all the other, you know, turf, lit turf fields. And not, not, not opposed to saying traveling to other counties and seeing the massive facilities that they have that are multi sport, all weather and lit. You know, now is more example than ever that we need our kids outside in fresh air doing healthy activities. My question that I would like to post is I guess because I'm curious as to the all of the open field at a place to play on the south side of the parking lot, where there looks like there's ample room for another couple of turf size fields of soccer, which would be highly removed from residential seems like an ideal spot to me to be looking to put in some all weather turf fields. I'm not sure if if we could get baseball soccer ball fields at that same spot, but I know that we need to do that. I think we need to focus these development dollars on youth sports. Well, what I think that's, you know, the most important thing. And that's what I have to say. Thank you, James. Thank you. I can jump in and answer that question really quickly. The city did has put an application into the Sonoma County ag and open space district to complete the remaining fields to be installed at a place to play. And if that is able to move forward, we're looking at two multi use fields at a place to play in that area. So hopefully we can hopefully we can get that grant and move forward with that, but stay tuned. Do you know if that's lighting is available as part of that plan or that you have to be figured out. It would have to be figured out. Yeah. Thank you. Our next speaker is Kevin Kilroy. Kevin, I'm enabling your speaking permissions please unmute your microphone. State your name for the record if you so choose and your time begins now. Hey guys, Kevin Kilroy is my name. I am not originally from the area I'm from Ireland originally moved here a number about three, four years ago. I'm director of soccer operations with Central United. So a couple of previous speakers, I know them well, and I shared the same opinion as them. And I shared the same opinion as the, the, the, the some of the other speakers. And then when I moved to the area first, I said the biggest need when I spoke to people at the time was lit fields in Santa Rosa. It feels number one, all all weather fields number two, you know, and I think somebody mentioned earlier foot cell. I know foot cell is a growing sport as well. It's, it's an extension of soccer. They're not grass. They're not, you know, they're there's courts just being built in Roller Park. They're lower cost option also that that would be number three for me. But I, my questions would be in the in when considering the investment. Is there any consideration for a return on investment. So, like building a multi use facility will bring millions of tax, millions of dollars to Santa Rosa. And the question I would have is, you know, is there any consideration given to that, you know, that the investment would would yield a significant return to the businesses in the in the area and to the community at large. That's my first question. And then my second question was just, again, it's ROI related and place to play is would be a great area I think for the full city of Santa Rosa. And the question I have there is like, has there been consideration given to convert the existing fields to turf, you know, it would, I'd imagine reduce the cost on maintenance, perhaps on having to cut the grass fields on maintenance that is involved in, in that area. And just to finally come to have been would be just, we, we regularly receive comments from our members about safety of the parks. I think having lighted packs at night would certainly increase the safety aspect of a lot of our city parks. So if there was a possibility to have lighted fields in the city, I think that would increase the safety aspect also. Thank you, Kevin. Thank you. I can respond and let you know that definitely we're nothing's off the table. We hope that this conversation tonight can spark interest and I like hearing the idea of return on investment. You know, opportunities like that. And, and certainly we hope that the surveys that you're going to take we can have some of that information. You can check those boxes. And then the survey that we're going to send you separately will have the option for you to write in your ideas. And we love to hear from as many of you as possible about these options because one of the reasons we're doing this is we hear from you all quite often about what's needed. So we want to show through this data we're collecting tonight, as well as additional future meetings that it's it's not just a staff desire it's not something we're seeing. It's something really desired from the community itself. And so a place to play we, we definitely have considered converting some of those fields to artificial turf. We would like to see how much how far our funds will go if we are accepted for this grant to install additional fields at a place to play, and how much funds we have remaining to potentially convert some of those to artificial turf. So it's definitely something that's on our mind as well as we definitely recognize the need for lighted fields in the in the city so appreciate your feedback. Mr. Kilroy also has typed a question. That which is, what are community concerns with lighting fields, can you speak to that a little bit. Sure, sure, it's especially at a place to play we've heard from neighbors that they are concerned about the light pollution that is potential for them. And they, you know, like I mentioned earlier, a lot of our parks are in existing communities that have not been accustomed to lighted fields so we will need to have further community conversations for those locations where we choose to pursue lighted fields so we can help educate the community and also inviting our sports community so we can talk about some of the positive benefits you've mentioned tonight so mostly it's a, it's a light pollution kind of complaint that we've heard so far, as well as just the additional potential noise later at night, if there's lighted fields. So that's what we're hearing from folks in neighborhoods. So, stay tuned, lots to come. But we've heard you and we definitely will look forward to having those future detailed discussions with the community about lighted fields. Thank you. Our next speaker is safari safari I'm enabling your speaking permissions. Please unmute your microphone state your name for the record if you so choose and your time begins now. Hello, my name is Kathy cursed, not safari. And I am the North Bay pickleball ambassador for Sonoma Napa and Solano counties. My husband Ken has acted as the tournament director for the annual pickleball tournament at Finley Park is part of the wine country senior games the past seven years. And this journey, attorney drove draws over 200 participants from all over California and other states. And so we and many other pickleball players would like to see more pickleball courts built in Santa Rosa, in addition to the eighth that we currently have our local group of over 100 pickleball players feel that the number of courts in Santa Rosa will increase the draw of tours like tail eggs sounder said, not only a tournament time but all year long. Many pickleball players means more revenue for the city of Santa Rosa and healthier and happier Santa Rosa citizens of all ages is a win win scenario all ages not just adults and senior citizens but children as well. So there are players learning to sport at Finley seven days a week with regular play nine to noon. Also at Howard Park play is in the mornings and in the evenings because they do have lights there. So I invite measure and decision makers to come learn our sport. We have extra paddles and many volunteers to help you learn the joy of pickleball. Please authorize funding for more courts in Santa Rosa. Thank you. Thank you. Our next speaker is john Q john I'm enabling your speaking permissions. Please unmute your microphone state your name for the record if you so choose and your time begins now. Good evening. My name is john Quinn. I am president Santa Rosa youth soccer league. I'm past president Santa Rosa United I'm president of Sonoma soccer conflicts. We operate. The two all other soccer fields at Shoflam Park. So, I think there's a great great need for lighted all other fields here. I mean, we were late adopters of the existing fields that are in our community. Most of those fields are at high schools and frankly are unavailable to community users. If you looked at at Petaluma, which I'm not saying is the best example, they're a third our size and have for lighted all other fields, public fields. You know, at that basis, we should have at least 12 here that were, you know, municipal fields. And, you know, I think if we went to other communities, such as Danville, you'd find for, you know, Danville is about our size community. And I, I don't know this I haven't checked. They've got a ton of light, lighted in all other fields there. So, you know, we're way behind where we should be. In addition to that need which is acute in the long, long run and secondary to lighted full size fields. I think we would be well served to consider all weather mini pitches lighted all weather mini pitches. You can put them in neighborhood parks. You can make this recreation opportunity available. You know, without having to jump in your car and drive to the other side of town. You know, there's lots of neighborhood parks, community parks that have more than ample space to put in a, you know, 40,000 square foot or 20,000 square foot pitch that, you know, the community could use, and it'd be a great asset to the community. From the community's perspective, I think it'd be fair to say the full size fields and complexes are a higher priority. We have a great need for those. But secondarily, we ought to look at neighborhood parks and what we could do with those to serve the community. I think, you know, the soccer community is pretty clear in their need. I've spent Kevin and I have spent a significant amount of time in recent weeks trying to track down available fields in the county. And it is just impossible right now. You know, we, it is an embarrassment that the county seat that the largest community in county doesn't have these resources. And I, with that, I would yield back the rest of my time. Thank you, John. Our next speaker is Adam Brand. Adam, I'm enabling your speaking permissions. Please unmute your microphone. State your name for the record. If you so choose, and your time begins now. Hi, my name is Adam Brand. I'm the president of Santa Rosa United Soccer Club. And I first want to start by saying thank you for giving this opportunity to ask questions and to provide our input about what is needed in Santa Rosa. I've been a resident of Santa Rosa for the last eight years. I originally grew up in outside of Dallas, Texas and spent a lot of time in Florida. And I will say one of the first things I noticed when I started getting into youth sports with my kids here is the astounding lack of lighted fields. That was noticeable immediately. And not just for soccer, which obviously I'm here to advocate for but for all sports. I really support the comments from the gentleman from the rink and valley, but youth baseball league and the two speakers for the for representing pickleball that there is a desperate need here in this community for for lighted fields and courts of all kinds. So I'd love to see that for all sports users. What is is noticeable here is how we have fallen behind the other communities within our county and other communities across the state in regards to a number of fields number of all weather fields and another number of lighted fields. I echo a lot of the comments from everyone else that I believe Santa Rosa can and needs to do better for our community and providing these facilities for not only for youth sports which is what I am here representing but I do think if you would find if there were lighted, that people of all ages would be taking, taking them into account would be using them as much as possible from, you know, as the adult pickleball players are talking about. I also think you might see adult baseball or softball leagues and I know for a fact you would see adult soccer leagues. And these are things that the that the city is losing out on a generating revenue. Not to mention the ability to add foot saw courts which I was very excited to see rona park put in but also a little dismayed that we're falling behind rona park in that aspect as well. I'm just to add one more comment regarding the return on investment that Kevin Colroy mentioned earlier. One of the things that San Diego has seen and I know we're nowhere near that size but with with the COVID pandemic is the loss of surf cup to that community is that's their second largest community event that brings in the most dollars behind Comic Con in a city like like San Diego. So if we were able to provide more all weather fields and more lighted fields, you would see the kind of revenue brought back into this community from tournaments for not just soccer, which would also obviously be a big driver but all these other sports that people have been talking about people would love to come to one country and and have access to high quality fields that they'd be able to to play on for these tournaments so again thank you for your time and for allowing us to speak and just again want to advocate for more lighted all weather fields for all sports. Thank you, Adam. John Q has another question. John I'm enabling your speaking permissions, please unmute your microphone. Yeah, I just go ahead. I just wanted to give you a little scale. Soccer players in Santa Rosa are probably 4000 kids in a typical year. And it's hard to say what a typical year is doing COVID-19 and fires, and I've undertaken an effort to find the data from two years ago to get some scale of what the community has but between our registrations in Santa Rosa soccer league and what I know the other cop programs in the community have. Easy 4000 kids playing organized soccer. And there's many, many thousands of kids who don't have an opportunity to play in part of the reason they don't have the opportunities lack of facilities. One of the other things that I wanted to say is and it's been raised by baseball as well. There's a great advantage to having clustered facilities that give you opportunities to have people travel from out of our area to our area for events. There's probably more value in a four field facility than four one field facilities. And so, you know, that's something that I think we ought to consider in our planning. But, you know, as I said in my example earlier with the relative lack of fields here and the number that have seemed appropriate for Petalema or for Danville. We're not going to find places to put 10 field facilities very easily. But maybe we can do a four or five or six field facility one way and then do four other fields around town. But you know, we've got a long way to go to get what this community needs. And, you know, another argument I would make is if we're going to build lots of facilities over say five or 10 years or whatever the timeframe is, we ought to have a plan to have more single sport fields, in addition to multi sport fields, because it's going to be a lot easier to utilize efficiently space and investment on single sport fields than it is on multi sport fields. And I'll yield the rest of my time. We have another question from Derek Huntington. Derek, I'm asking you to unmute your microphone. I'm enabling your speaking permissions. You may go ahead. Yeah, definitely appreciate John and everybody from the soccer sites perspective and support of the baseball as well. Again, echoing that comment, you know, about multiple fields at the same at the same time. And also additional, you know, some like specialty in some cases sport specific spots like like batting cages and other things that allow, you know, kind of a higher level of play or a higher level of tournament to be available at that location. You know, place to play does have facilities as a batting cage but tends to be, you know, kind of not at the level of repair, or just the level of quality needed to really, you know, be utilized, you know, for kind of a tournament level play. So, considering again those sport specific needs to make the facilities really functional for those high level events. Thank you. Thank you. Are there any other questions. Madam facilitator I see no other hands at this time. There are two. Oh, actually three questions in the Q&A. One is from James Elliott. There have been lots. Well, I guess it's a comment there have been lots of improvements with LED lighting, which produces drastically less pollution than traditional lights from Adam Brand. Since light pollution has been raised as a concern for providing lighting at existing parks within communities. Is there any consideration to new field complexes in areas that are not within existing neighborhoods? Yes, and I just want to thank James for the comment. I agree that the latest LED technology is much better than every year than what we've what we traditionally look at. We are looking at areas outside existing neighborhoods for potential for new complexes at all times. So if you have any ideas where all ears we do try to keep an eye on that as well. If you remember the map that we showed that showed the new, the little red trees that's available from the general plan. You can contact me and I can get you those are the areas where the city has identified potential new parks. It doesn't mean that it's limited to that so we're always have our eyes and ears open for potential options. Although the funding may not be there we do still try to look for those options and consider them when they come up. And then it looks like we have a question. Is that right? Yes, the last question is, are you planning on hosting a Spanish language. One of these public meetings, and we are planning to have a Spanish one in the Southwest quadrant or have a translator on hand at a meeting in early 2021. It won't be sports focus, but certainly those questions can be asked there as well. Do you have anything to add, Jen? Right, and I would just remind everyone that as we roll through some of the polling, and we send you the survey. If there is a really strong desire to have an exclusively Spanish component as part of the sports conversation. We certainly look at that too as an option instead of waiting until next year for the Spanish only version. So keep us posted and let us know what is important to you so we can flex and make that available as needed. Okay, are we going to roll back to our regular presentation in just a minute? And then we check my location. We're going to roll into some polling. And Rachelle's going to walk us through that. It's going to be sports specific. Just keeping in mind that the polling is limited to yes or no or the multiple choice options we have. But at the end of this will be, after this meeting, we'll be sending you a separate survey where you'll have the option to type in responses and return them to us if what our options are for your response doesn't meet your needs. So I'll turn it over to Rachelle to walk us through the questions. Rachelle, you're muted. So can you hear me now? Yes. So we've got our question and answers done ahead of time. So that's great. Now the poll. When you go through these, just you can think of it as, you know, answer it within your sport or you can answer it with all the sports in mind. It's kind of up to you. But you know, it's okay to just do your own sport and there will be options for people throughout the year. The rest of the year to do these same things. They'll be sent out as well. Okay. Okay, next slide please. Rachelle, are you able to see the questions to read them or can I go through that for you? Do you? Yeah, go ahead. I don't have those. Okay, no problem. I know some screens. It's not always evident. But this is just like our last one for any of those of you taking this polling and we hope you do take this poll. The responses are really, really important. I mean, we absolutely love hearing your opinions and information you have. It's fantastic, but the polling is really important. So, number one, how many more athletic fields and sport courts does Santa Rosa need and as Rachelle mentioned, it's look at your sport and think about it. We know we're not getting super nitty gritty detail, but we just want to get a sense of the larger need. And number two, what kind of servicing should new athletic fields be made of. So, there you have an option for the all weather, whether artificial or both or anything like that. And then number three, should new athletic fields have lighting. I think I know what the response will probably be there. And then number four, should new sport courts have lighting as well. And if you're ahead of me or behind me that's fine just kind of rolling through them. For those of you that are on the phone. What is the minimum number of athletic fields that need to be grouped together to accommodate tournaments. So think of your particular sport on an athletic field. What would be, what would be your, your ultimately number one choice to have. And then number six, what is the minimum number of sports courts that need to be grouped together to accommodate a tournament. So we're looking at pickleball tennis basketball in a sport court type of handball things like that. For number seven, for a tournament held in Santa Rosa. What is the maximum distance between clusters of parks with fields or courts that you are willing to travel to participate in a tournament or game. And I don't know if you have anything to add to that, Rachelle, but I know when we were talking previously. It was, you know, it's one of those things or if you have to run two different youth to two different sports and you're traveling from Sonoma State and have to rush inside to Santa Rosa. What is that, you know, what is that distance that you'd be willing to, to travel to participate in a tournament. I don't know if I'm missing that upper shelf. You have anything better to say. I think, I think also remember Santa Rosa is congested at times. And so even if it might be five miles, it may take you longer than the, the hour between the games. There's always so you have to kind of look at, you know, where you, what you'd be willing to go do back in the day again we did go from Sonoma State to Franklin, and we went went from, you know, Galvin, all over town, but there was a lot less congestion and it was a problem that you can't get your volunteers back and forth you can't get your referees back and forth it's it's a problem that way so kind of think of all of those and I would imagine when I played tennis and it was only useful to just go to your one set place and not travel. Okay, that's that's that's perfect that's what I was looking for is that explanation of that. I think about that in that terms and what would be your absolute best case scenario. We know we might think this may be ultimately different but what are we shooting for here that's what we'd like to know. And then number eight if the city can only spend money on maintaining the fields and courts, it has or building new fields and courts which would you prefer. This question because we hear a lot saying well if you can't do this then at least maintain what you have. And so, let us know what you think is the preference for that. If you just had to choose. Number nine would you prefer the city spend money to convert current fields to all weather lit fields or build new all weather lit fields again that's one of those scenarios again where you were kind of forcing a choice what would be your absolute preference. If you had to be making a choice there. And then let's see number 10 do you prefer multi purpose fields or courts or single purpose fields and courts. And there's some examples adult tennis youth tennis and pickleball and soccer baseball softball rugby can kind of be shared between them, and we heard some opinions there so definitely tell us what your, what your preferences and then don't know if you have anything else to add about this section when we're asking we have another another set of questions for you to but it's so important that we gather this data, and I can't thank you all enough for participating in this. I'm, yeah, that's fine. It is, it is really important and I'm going to say it again, the city council needs backup, and there's no way for the Parks and Recreation Department to just put a lot of information together. The proof is, is us it's us going to meetings of the council it's us also writing to them it's us providing them with these poll information. And it's us going to the even the commissions. You know just having representations there and saying, saying this over and over again. It's, it's how place to play got built. You know, I can tell you, we took probably 80 kids in uniform down to City Hall and it was really impressive and important and I think it finally made a dent in their, in their idea of what these kids were waiting for. I'll turn it over to the host and see about where we're at I know that's a long one. How are we doing with the polling. We're at 16 of 19 reporting. All right, we'll just give it a little bit more time there and check back in and just a second or two doesn't appear to be changing. Okay, all right, let's check those results. All right, there we go. So let's see let's go through number one how many more like fields and sport courts to Santa Rosa need it's kind of a, it's relatively even that looks like 20 to 30 is leaving the charge there. And number two what kind of surfacing should new athletic fields be made of. There's a strong preference for all weather artificial turf. Number two, new athletic fields have lighting 88% looking at yes. And we have some with no opinion or could be both lit or not and then number four, should new sport courts have lighting 81% yes. And number five, what is the minimum number of athletic fields that need to be grouped together to accommodate tournaments looks like there's a stronger preference for five to eight 44% and with two to five and 25% and then if we look at number six. Same question for sport courts we're looking at again five, yeah five to eight same thing at 31% there and then we've got about 31 same amount with no opinion. And then for number seven, we're looking at clustering fields together what is the maximum distance you're willing to travel. And we've got folks looking at 15 miles as the preference for the winners so to speak with a maximum amount of time they'd be willing to spend to travel inside Santa Rosa. And let's see. And then our question number eight, if the city can only spend money on maintaining the fields and courts it has or building new fields and courts, the preference is building new fields and courts 69% And then for not number nine would you prefer the city spend money to convert fields to all weather lit fields or build new all weather lit fields and 50% doing both is beneficial. Let's see and final question do you prefer multi purpose fields and courts are single purpose fields and courts and the strongest answer is having both is beneficial. Perfect. Thank you so much for taking that whole it really helps us understand what we think we knew and hopefully learn and learned a few new things as well. It's, you know, like Michelle said it's really, really important that when we collect the data. We can use that to help structure how we move forward with the funding as well as how we have conversations at council when there is other funds available. I am going to look to the hosting team because I know this is a lot to try to capture and see if we need a little bit more time. I've captured what I've needed. Okay. Great. All right, let's roll on to the next. Next slide. And so the next bit of questions we're going to ask is about maintenance and so we wanted to have a actually we we have a continuation of the specific pool. That's right, we did make a change there so I apologize we have a little bit of a continuation of the same questioning we had before. So I I'm going to roll into these and again appreciate your patience I know this is a lot, but it's so so helpful for us when we're looking at storytelling so go ahead and start placing your information in there your votes. So number one, how far are you willing to travel to access and all whether lit field for practice or games so this is an area. Outside maybe even the city so got zero to five at the bottom and then 25 miles on the next and then no opinion. And then number two, are there any sports that should be brought to Santa Rosa. We've heard. We've heard a little bit today about some of that. There are certainly other sports that we think, you know, we're trying to think outside the box here and what could be brought to the city of Santa Rosa like we've heard futsal today. And so even though you may not see futsal here today, you'll have the opportunity to write that in. In the survey we're going to email to you after this after this meeting. And then currently number three currently only schools have gyms in Santa Rosa should measure and funding be used to design and construct a city gymnasium somewhere. So just like to see what you have to think about that. And number four should measure and funding be used to design and construct a new aquatic center. And so we have, you know, we have our two aquatic centers, richway and finley. And we hear from time to time that there's a need for additional aquatic centers. Number five should the funding for measure and be used to design and construct a new community center, which could have a variety of things, and it's something maybe not as small as dealing but on on this on that same line, where we have a variety of things in a community center together, maybe like another finley. Number six, what types of dedicated funding mechanisms for parks, would you support after measure and parks for all ends. So this does have an end date in 2029. And we're looking at other alternative options, what would you be willing to support. And just curious what you might have to think about that. I don't know, Rochelle, I don't know if we talked a lot about these particular questions but if you have anything to add certainly feel free, if there's anything to, to add to that. Now I think that's, that's good. Yeah, all even though we just got started with measure and I think it's important to recognize it does have an end date, and you do have to, we have to maintain we all know what happened. And when maintenance wasn't happening to many of our fields about about eight years ago. And it looks a lot better now, but it did take a big toll when monies were not coming into the maintenance department. The only thing I want to ask you if this happened at the last meeting. The maintenance for the medians and the street medians and street corners and things like that. Are those also under the maintenance budget. Yes, so the city those are the city's responsibility. Yes, so all of the medians in the middle of the street. And any of the right of ways that are adjacent to public land so in front of an adjacent to the street for instance on a place to play all that frontage there would be the city's responsibility but on the other side, where it's residential units those are the residents are responsible for that so yeah, it's it's quite a big variety of, of responsibility for the for the maintenance team. And we do have a contractor that is doing some work right now mowing and blowing turf and fields and things like that. Because that's something we can do without without the, without the need for chemicals because we still have an outstanding question from the council about what is the community's preference which is part of this conversation tonight as well. Yes. Jen, you explained the difference between a park tax district. Let's see park development impact fees renew and renewing measure m. Sure. Now that's a great question. So a parks tax district is something we don't have a lot of right now. We could think of as a parks tax district that would be something new for the city where all of the city's responsibilities for parks would be under a district and that be funding dedicated to just that district. So that's one way of thinking about it. We have very small tax districts right now where some of the right of way roadways and things like that are placed into special tax districts, where we have special funds dedicated for just that purpose for only maintaining that tax district. So there's two ways of thinking about that. One way of thinking about it is to think about it. And the other thing that park development impact fees are the fees that we collect per quadrant in the city when residential subdivision or residential housing goes in, the city collects fees per quadrant from those and in holding in a holding pattern to build future buildings. And then renew measure and that's something we're already talking about even though measure and just start got started. Should we ask the residents of the county to extend and renew measure and after it ends. So that's something we're also thinking that this is so awesome. This is such a great source of revenue for parks and recreation. So hopefully that helps a little bit with the, with the explanation. Jen, could you also talk about the amount of the number of maintenance staff that the city had before the economic recession and what we have today, just to manage expectations. Yes, absolutely. Great question. We, the city maintained a relatively hefty amount about 50 park maintenance staff for about 1000 acres and before 2008 and after the economic downturn, we have 18 park maintenance staff members which includes supervisors as well for the entire city. And at both times we had, we had a contract service for some main, some maintenance to happen as well. But after 2008 we tried to rely a little bit more on the contract service. So that was the focus after 2008. This may be, this is another question that was raised in the Q&A feature. And it may be best for Amy to answer. Could any new or existing sports courts be multipurpose for basketball tennis and foot saw. I would say we'd have to look into that but I, I don't know if Amy has anything else to add. That's certainly it seems like it's possible. I think Amy was able to stay on with us if you have anything else to add. Yeah, if you want. Hi everybody know I, I don't the sports courts are not an area that I'm real familiar with. I use, I know that they're kind of doing multi course for pickleball and tennis and that doesn't seem to work. It works but it's not ideal for that group. Thank you. I'm going to go ahead and learn to that. All right, was there anything else before we look at our results. There's just, there's a comment about using money to take care of the turf fields. Because they're being, they're not in good shape and also transient people are using them for camping and leaving lots of trash and just money for from Measure M in order to maintain the fields to keep them safe for everyone but especially the children. Great. So I will close the poll 100% of respondents have answered. And here's the results. Okay, let's look at this. So for question number one how far are you willing to travel to access an all whether lit field for practicing games. Looks like five to 10 and 10 to 15. 29% both of those trailing behind by 15 to 25 miles. Number two, are there any sports that should be brought to Santa Rosa looks like we had quite a few selected. Looks like I'm looking forward to maybe getting some responses back from that future survey on others because we had 36% at other, but certainly BMX indoor tennis across track and field roller hockey indoor pickleball. We're also selected. Number three currently only schools have gyms in Santa Rosa should measure and funding be used to design and construct a city gymnasium and 57% no and 36% yes on that. And this says number four is should measure and funding be used to design and construct a new aquatic center and looking at 64% no and 21% yes on that one. And then let's see for number five should measure and funding be used to design and construct a new community center 71% no and 29% yes. And then let's look at the last question. The types of funding after measure and runs out. Looks like there's support for renewing measure and glad to hear and also some support for So really great information. Especially like hearing about all of the new types of sports that should come to our community it's always exciting to hear. I remember actually the first time I heard about pickleball coming to the city and really excited to hear what it was and how it was being played. That's a new one for me. I'm going to host now to see. There's anything else we need to do it, or we can close this results or do you need a little more time to capture the information. I have the information thank you. Great. Hey, Alrighty. So we're going to move on now. And I think some of you were getting ahead of us which is fantastic looking into maintenance options and what we have out there. So we just wanted to give you a reminder to get your brain thinking about the maintenance of the sports and athletic fields and amenities we have out there so we, the team does maintain all of the irrigation systems throughout the city. We manage the pests and weeds. And we want you to think about that because that's one of the questions that the council would like to know from the community is what sort of support do you have for pest and weed removal either using chemicals or organic chemicals, organic mechanical means or other other options for removing pests and weeds. Of course we mow what we mow edge and blow the fields and fields and outfields. We do rely on our volunteers heavily for that. But the parks maintenance team does that as well as our recreation staff get involved from time to time. We pick up trash. Of course we pick up trash. We replace nets. We stripe and chalk fields. And of course we coordinate with all of our fantastic volunteer groups out there. I know this this city in particular relies really heavily on its successful volunteer program. So let's let's see where are we at. We have another poll to do. And this one is to ask you questions about how we're doing with maintenance and how you think we can do better or what things are we doing. Right so let's take a look at this poll and really appreciate you stick sticking around I know this is a lot to cover, but it's so so important so number one is the city doing good job, maintaining his current athletic fields and sports courts it owns. And so number two. How much time does your organization spend taking care of Santa Rosa facilities fields courts nets, shocking things like that we know we have some fantastic groups out there that doing an amazing amount of work each week and so, even if it's not physically you. Let us know what you know what you see out there happening. It's really important even outside of the athletic community we do have a huge volunteer program in the city helping out at many parks. And then number three how do you feel about the length of the grass and the athletic fields we have heard some interesting feedback about this and we thought we'd add this just for you all just for our sports and athletic groups. So take a look at that we've got is the length too long. The length is too short or it's just right or maybe there's no opinion so take a look at that. And then we have number four what sort of pest control would you be in favor of. So we have the mechanical, you know, this think of gopher holes we would tamp those down, as well as we have a type of poison that is used for chemical removal of gopher's and sports fields and we also trap. We also trap the gopher's as well and so those three options are in use in the city right now and they just remind you all those never happened during the playing season. Those are always happening except the sometimes will mechanical removal of the gopher holes during the season but they're the chemical use of chemicals happens outside the playing season. They don't do it outside the place playing season they're not used. So just wanted to give you an idea of what's happening there and so we added that a mix of all of these would kind of get us to where we're at right now. Number five, how concerned are you with weeds and athletic fields and on sport courts. So just trying to get a sense of what you're okay with. What are the weeds or it's okay to see some, or as long as they don't impact your use of the, of the field or court. And then number six, what level of weed control do you think is acceptable in athletic fields and sports courts. So, the number five was your concern level and number six is an exact question. I don't want to see any weeds, or it's okay to see some weeds. And then number seven, to achieve the level of aesthetic we control you noted above for athletic fields and courts would you support using measure and funds. Or because for instance if we wanted to see no weeds, we would need to use additional funding from somewhere and would you support using measure and funds for additional maintenance. And number eight should herbicides be used on athletic fields and sport courts to suppress weeds. So, there's two types of herbicides there is we have the traditional chemical and we also have the organic chemical. What is an all natural material that the chemical one is as a derivative of those so think about that. And just keep in mind that also if chemicals are used anywhere around a sports field or court they're used outside of the playing season if that's possible, or not used at all if we can't accomplish that on youth, especially in youth fields. And number nine our final question should pesticides be used on athletics, athletic fields to deter pests. So I know there's a lot to think about but it's really important that we hear from you and what's important to you, especially your use of the fields and gopher holes. There are some communities that have opted out of using chemical means and they do tend to attract more gopher's during the during the season and I don't know, Michelle, or Amy if you have anything else to add to that. Oh, Michelle I can't hear you I'm sorry. I have our kids breaking ankles, which has happened and or arms and things and so it's an issue, but it's also an issue to not have them be any more inundated to health hazards than we've already got them going with these fires and weather and everything else is. They're impacted with so it's a dilemma. And that's probably one of the number one complaints we receive is the gopher holes and cracks and then and the turf and the twisted ankles and concern for safety there. Which could be solved if it was all weather fields because then you usually minimize the gopher's don't burrow and if it's not real grass. Great point. Thank you both great points for that. Thanks to our host to see how we're doing with this questioning to see if everyone's had a chance to finish. Yes, we have 12 of 13 reporting so. Alright, great. Thank you. Let's look at the results. Okay, great. So is the city doing a good job and kind of split their yes no and unsure with maintenance and the number two, it looks like. One to five hours a week for organizations spending the amount of you know the most amount of time one to five hours. Next is 17% five to 10 hours a week and 25% 10 plus hours a week so definitely got some great volunteers out there. And then we asked about the length of the grass and athletic fields and it looks like the preferences the length is too long and then it means to be mode shorter for 50% of the respondents others like it just the way it is at 17%. And then what kind of pest control would you be in favor of a mix of all of these 42% followed. It looks like an equal of mechanical and physical and less 8% for chemical. And let's see number five how concerned are you with weeds and athletic fields and sport courts. There's a 42% of you are okay as long as they don't impact the use of the park, or safety, and 33% don't want to see any weeds and 17% say it's as long as some if there's some weeds. And number six, I think what level of weed control is acceptable and athletic fields. 50% don't want to see any weeds there and 33. Okay, as long as they don't impact similar as the other question. And number seven to achieve a little level of aesthetic weed control you noted above, would you support using measure and funds so yes looks like is favored there at 42%. And number eight should herbicides be used on athletic fields and sport courts to suppress weeds there's a preference for yes, at 42% with yes but only organic herbicides number 3333% and no at 17%. And should pesticides be used on athletic fields to her past. The preference was yes but only organic pesticides at 42% and 25%. Yes, and 25% no. So thank you all very much for participating and I know this is lengthy we just have one more, one more tiny section to go through. Let's go to our host to see if we have collected all that information. Yes, thank you. All right, great. Jen, there is one question related to maintenance before we move on from Adam brand. What about the maintenance cleaning of restroom facilities. All right, so our that's a great question our maintenance staff is responsible for cleaning park restrooms. And it usually happens once a day, at least, or like at Howard Park where we have a lot of activities going on, and especially when we have recreation programming going on there can be additional cleanings two or three times a day but most parks receive once a day cleaning of the restroom facilities. Thank you. Let's, let's talk about measure and so we do want to ask you some traditional questions here that may not have a ton to do with sports, but it'll help us get a final this is our final poll to ask you about how we should use these funds and this is a really important one because this is where we're going to ask you, what is your preference of all of those areas for spending. And hopefully, we can help you guide you to look at those and if you do have a preference for sports you can notify that on there so let's roll into the next slide please. We've got a reminder of the parks and we've got the four quadrants there. And we've got 109 different parks out there. Next slide. And so we're looking at park systems by the number. So as I mentioned 109 parks overall, we've got all those different types of parks listed there. This group is probably most familiar with the community and neighborhood parks it's our standard parks that are out there. And the city does maintain over 1000 acres. And here's a quick look and I recognize that we do have some errors in some of this data. But again it's mostly used to try to get you thinking about the types of sports that we do have in the city and generally how many, and we might be off on some of those counts a little bit but that gives you a good sense of where we're at. And if you look at the amenities overall we have over 200 different types of amenities listed there and we've highlighted and blew some of the things that are more sports related or more traditionally thought of as sports related anyway. So let's look at the next. Next slide okay that's right we do have one more opportunity if there's any questions about measure M itself we're going to ask you a bunch of questions about measure M next so if you have any questions that maybe you need to get answers to before we roll into the last poll. And the last slide. We wanted to check in with you so I'll turn it back over to our host to check in with our participants one last time. There is one hand raised at this time, and it's been raised for a while. Now there are, are two. I will put up the public comment slide and Mary Lou will facilitate public comment. Thank you. Thank you. Our speaker is john Q. john. You may begin. I just wanted to comment on one of the questions in your questionnaire. You had asked whether it was better to have grouped facilities for a tournament or event, or disperse facilities. And I'll just tell you my experience, and it's over, you know, 15 or 20 years of doing this stuff. I think back in the day, 15 years ago, you go to an event and they'd be using school fields all over their community to do the event. Nowadays, and I'd invite Kevin or Josh if they're still on particularly Josh, because he's been at this a long time in this area. Nowadays, if you go to a better event, or a bigger events. We have very closely group fields at one or two sites. And that was just the extent of my comment on that. And I'd invite Josh to comment if he's still on. We actually have another speaker prior to Josh. Kevin Kilroy. You may begin. Kevin. Yeah, sorry. My question was just in relation to measure him and just the overall process and what it looks like, you know, and, you know, many, you know, what's the. I guess, what's the start and end date of whatever projects come up or is there any, is there any information on that? Sure. Thank you so much. It is a 10 year tax measure. And so we're in finishing up year two in the tax measure and it does end in 2029. And where we're at in the processes that council has approved us to go back out to the community as well as the first two years of funding to be spent on fire related damages. I'm going to go back in spring with the information we've collected tonight and the information we're going to collect at future meetings to update the council on where the community's priorities lay to spend these funds. So I anticipate that by June of next year when we do the budget cycle, we'll have some understanding of where the priority should be for measure and spending. And at that point we will have a launching point for conducting improvements or adding additional maintenance or whatever comes out of this process or a combination there of. And then we have those eight years to complete whatever that is. It's an improvement we have eight years to get it done. And if it's additional maintenance that can be implemented fairly quickly. With with those processes there on a limited basis because that the measure does have an end date. So that's a sense of what's of what's coming it is a long measure but we want to make sure since there isn't a lot, even though 1.2 million or 1.9 million dollars is a lot of money in the scheme of things building a new soccer field for instance is cost about one and a half to build so we that's why we wanted to get a sense of priorities from from this group of you that are so heavily engaged in our athletic community and where those priorities might lay. So that's a connection to the deferred maintenance or condition assessment we're going to be doing as well. So we're going to combine all of that stuff, go back to Council and hope to have some direction from Council by June of 2021 for what our next steps might be. So hopefully that's helpful. Sorry about the long answer. Thank you. Our next speaker is Josh sterling. Josh, please unmute your microphone and you may begin. Hello everyone again and just a reminder Josh sterling Center of United soccer and just to echo what John was saying I know he wanted me to comment because I've been in the soccer world for 20 years. As a parent as a coach as a director as a college coach. We have a lot of facilities and a lot of towns and so yeah absolutely. We don't mean soccer you soccer at our level we don't go to a tournament where there's not, you know, a minimum of three and probably four fields that are clustered together and there's a lot of benefits for a lot of different reasons, regardless of the level that's you know recreation or or level below ours or the highest level like ours is, you know, for instance, multiple families or multiple kids playing you're not driving all over the place, fundraising for the local host. So if it's in Rosy United or Empire soccer whoever's doing the event, you're able to do sell things and make money and keep everyone at the same place you can get referees are not driving all over the place so there's a real simplicity to it and an important part to it but as you get older like for instance, for us, holding college showcases and college recruiting is a big thing I launched maybe seven or eight years ago at Santa Rosa United the college showcases. We bring in 50 or 60 college coaches from around the country and pack about 100 kids on each field for camps and the next day do games and that's was just on two tri only fields. So imagine what we would be able to do if we a had more fields and be had lights, you know, it, you know, the college coaches for our kids that are trying to play college soccer in our community. They don't want to be driving all around our town either. They'd like to be able to sit at one location or maybe to and watch all the kids that they came to see so just sort of echoing some real life things that I've experienced over the last 20 years on why having a cluster of fields with lights would be beneficial. Thank you. Thank you, Josh. I have no other questions here. All right, great. Thank you. So we will roll back into our presentation. And this is our last poll. Thank you all so much for hanging in there. We knew it was going to be a long one and we can't thank you enough. We know your time is super important. And we have some questions for you about prioritizing the measure and funding specifically. It's not just related to athletic fields, but you'll see how it goes. So poll number five, how satisfied with you are the condition of the parks in Santa Rosa. So just a basic question, not necessarily targeted for athletic fields, but you can give us a sense of what your opinion is there. What do you do? Do you feel safe when you use Santa Rosa parks? And then number three, which features of the park do you use most often and so this is a multiple choice question. And these answers are related to the allowable uses in measure M or the cluster of uses anyway so definitely click as many that are relevant to you all in number three. And then number four, what are the most important qualities you would like to see in a park. I've got several things there to look at safety aesthetics. Well, well maintained natural landscaping ease of access, quiet spaces, themes or variety of amenities. So take a look at that for number four and then number five. What features would you like to see most improved in Santa Rosa. And so this being about athletics. We've got that as the first selection box there if you would like to select that. And these are multiple choice so please feel free to select as many as you like there. And a continuation of number five and six just because we need we needed more space to add in all the amenities there. Click away and click the ones that are you would like to see most improved. And then number seven how often do you have gatherings events and park facilities and this question is obviously a pre COVID question. But let's just pretend COVID is gone. And number seven then how many times do you gather and have events in parks. And number eight, how could your city, how could your city parks and recreation experience be improved so we have some just kind of generic options there for you better maintenance more recreation programming newer park amenities, more natural parks. And number nine. Another multiple choice question. This is looking at recreation programs and activities. And we're curious, which ones you participated. What you're currently participating in or have participated in the past. And so I've got sports leagues as the first choice and youth sports got several selections there and it's a multiple choice. And our last question of the evening, which is definitely an important question to consider, really look at those that these are exactly copied from the measure itself, and they're direct, you know, question or their direct direct allowable uses. Certainly isn't exclusive, but we wanted to not mince words and we wanted to make sure we copied exactly what the measure language talks about so the first box there would be more towards maintenance. The second little bubble would be more towards improving things making new parks and new playgrounds and new athletic fields. The third bubble is about expanding parks and trails and bikeways public art. The next one is about bike paths and trails connections, followed by recreation and educational programs, as well as the second to last is about reducing future fire, fire fuel risk. And the last one is options for prioritizing the waterways and riparian areas to benefit fish and wildlife so we're looking for you to tell us what is important to you there. So I know that's a lot, but we can wade through that. And I'll look to our host how are we doing up there we go. Fantastic. So, how satisfied with the condition of Santa Rosa parks, not satisfied at 42% and looks like we need to do a better job there, and 17% satisfied and 17 not at all. And 17 mostly satisfy. Do you feel safe when you visit Santa Rosa parks, most of the time 58% and sometimes at 25% and what park features do you most often use. Surprisingly, 83% athletic fields, 33% sports courts playgrounds dog parks and swimming pools follow, follow that. And number four, what are the most important qualities, you would like to see in a park like to see a well maintained at 42% 33% want safety, and followed up by 100% athletic fields. And kind of a split between the remainder of the amenities. And then number six which features would you like to see most improved in Santa Rosa question number two. We've got trees at 17% and kind of a mix of playgrounds trails and public art and tenants. And pre COVID how many events did you have weekly is 83% and number eight how could your city of Santa Rosa parks and recreation experience be improved. And it works like new newer park amenities at 42% as well as better maintenance at 33%. And number nine what are your city of Santa Rosa recreation programs or activities. Are you participating in or having the past youth sports adult sports camps. And golf and aquatics. And it looks like for our last question on priorities. New fields improvements and things like that are the priority at 92% with a little bit about providing education and health programs for the community. All right did our was our host team able to capture those responses. Not quite just another moment. Okay. So now Mary Lou is finishing up with the results. There is one hand raised. So I'm going to let Michael Paul speak. Are you ready to speak. Michael. So I will allow you to talk. And you can ask your question. Michael do you have anything to say. Okay I've captured my information thank you. Thank you Mary Lou. I appreciate it. Oh, go ahead. Hello, I'm Michael Paul. I'm with the Santa Rosa Athletics Collegiate baseball team. I just wanted to say hello happy holidays. And thank you guys for including us in this process. Great. Thank you so much. We're so glad that everyone was able to participate. And let's look at the next slide. We'll talk about what we're going to do next. So we kind of talked about that a little bit before, but after this, we have a series of three to four additional measure and meetings. This one was specific for our sports organization. So we really targeted you, but the meetings coming up will be more city wide. And we're going to try to target those quadrants that we talked about before. So if you have any questions, please feel free to contact us. We certainly feel free to participate that when it comes to your neighborhood. We'll be posting that information on our website when it becomes available. And we're also looking at potentially more specific meetings like this with additional city partners. That we've worked with in special interest groups. So if you know of anybody that. That we need to talk to you. Please let us know. And if you have any questions, please feel free to contact us. And if you have any questions that we're going to send you is going to be available. To all attendees on the seventh. And we are going to run that survey through the 21st. And it's going to be in an email to you. That gives you that opportunity to type in the things that maybe. The limitations of this sort of these surveys. Don't allow you to freely express. Your questions. And we'll be back in a few minutes. We'll be back in a few minutes. And then we'll be back from tonight. And then we'll be returning to actually one little step by missing between the board of community services, which is a council appointed board. And they. Here and help us with things related to parks and recreation. So we're going to that board. In spring and then to council after that. And if you have any information, if you need any more information about there, you can contact us. If you have any questions, you can contact us. If you have any questions, you can write or you can certainly, we have my contact information there as well as the main parks line. You can call. To ask us anything you might have related to measure M or athletic fields, of course. And your priorities. And I am going to thank you all so very much for attending and turn it back over to Rochelle to. Close us out and add any closing remarks you might like, but I'm going to turn it back over to Rochelle. And I want to thank you all so very much. I know this is the longest meeting ever. And I can't thank you enough for participating. And I will. Turn it back over to Rochelle. And let's go back over to that last slide. Hopefully Michelle was able to stay on with us. Yeah, there she is. Hi. So I thank you again, everyone. And. I want to say that there's a, you know, there's a lot of things that you can't do. You can't make the council meetings. If you can't make the board of community service meetings, which. Meet just once a month. But if you can't make them send an email or a letter. To, well, send an email. And. Right in what you want. All the time, every time you would be amazed at the attention that they start to really understand. How the city works. And so if you are a group. Have them write letters. That's a great way to be introduced to how the city works. A good, a good civic lesson. So. Take an opportunity to try and do those things throughout the next couple of months. If you have a letter that you think is pretty good, send it and share it with the other. send it in as well. So it's the more the merrier which I just want to close and say thank you and have a merry holiday. Great. Thanks so much Rochelle and thank you all very very much and definitely keep in touch. Thank you. Bye. Thank you.