 And it's not only the fact that it possesses a foundational metaphysics that makes science into a religion, it also has many other features of religion, especially of organized religion like Catholicism. You know, it has a priesthood that, like the medical priesthood, requires a long initiation into the esoteric language of the order. And once you are an initiate, then you can, if you're not careful, you can be excommunicated, cut off from funding or from publication. There are schisms within this religion. There are apostates, there are heretics. There are invisible beings that are accessible only through special divinatory instruments as I said before, like microscopes. There are, and a formula for the attainment of truth, it's called the scientific method. Other religions have other formulae for the attainment of truth. It has systems for indoctrinating the young. It has ties to political and economic interests as most religions do. It has an origin story. It has a theory of human nature. It has a theory of change. It has prescriptions for how to live life and how to govern society. It's a fully fleshed out, fully elaborated religion in all of these respects. And as I said, the one thing that we appeal to to raise it above religion is not even true, that it is verifiable, that it doesn't rely on faith in metaphysical assumptions, it actually does. However, what I want to say is that the fact, like to call it a religion is not to disparage it. If that were a disparagement, then I would be applying science's own conception of religion as a term of abuse. But in fact, religion and the ritual technologies that it draws on, that from which the ritual technologies that draw on religion. These are valid whether or not they are drawing on science or on some other mythology. They are valid and they are powerful. They can achieve things that we cannot achieve without these systems of ritual and symbol. And this is what I learned when I was in Taiwan. There were medical practitioners who could perform healing on the body that was impossible from at the Yale University Medical Center. People who could heal bone breaks in two weeks rather than six weeks. And I experienced some of these things myself.