 So, hello and thank you for joining this webinar, which is the latest of our series of online training courses that we've produced from the IEA, where we've focused on some of the key aspects of energy efficiency policy. These training courses have their provenance in our face-to-face training, where we've worked with more than two and a half thousand people from around the world to work on a common language for energy efficiency policy so that we can all share experiences and help be more effective by working together. We can't winch everybody, of course, with the face-to-face training, so we're talking about very important topics, which are common to all that touch everybody's lives. We produce one of these online training courses, so that's what we're here to talk about today. Of course, appliance policy is one of the most effective parts of our energy efficiency policy toolkit and where we've seen programs that have existed for the last 20 or 30 years, countries and jurisdictions are saving more than 15% of their electricity consumption compared with having not had these programs, but they have complexities, they have various elements that need to come together and they have to be worked on over years, they have to be updated. So one of the things we want to introduce you today is that process of what some of the major successful programs have looked like and why they've succeeded. So we have, as well as presentations from the IEA, we have presentations from appliance energy efficiency policy champions from the European Union, from China, from sub-Saharan Africa, and also from class who will be featuring their experience around the world and with a bit of a spotlight on India. So I will stop there for the time being and hand over to Dara. Thank you Mel and welcome to this lunch of the appliance energy efficiency policy webinar. As Mel mentioned today, we're here to present the appliance energy efficiency policy online training. We've developed an example. This training is the last of the IEA's online training. We have a number of them, one on fundamental statistics, essentials of policy making, buildings and smart cities, and the appliance energy efficiency policy one is our last development and it is the consolidation of content, insights, case studies, and understandings that have been combined or compiled for decades in our understanding. So we're very happy to be able to share all of that in an online interactive self-paced way. Here you have the link to the webinar, but I'll be sharing the link to enroll in the webinar in the upcoming slides. The course aims to prepare participants to advance in energy efficiency policies for appliances and equipment. It does this by explaining how policies can reduce energy use, but also by introducing the principles of how to design and implement energy efficiency in what we have coined at the IEA as the energy efficiency policy package, which is a package that integrates regulation information and incentives to drive energy efficiency towards higher levels in the most effective way. The primary target of this training is policymakers along with other stakeholders involved in the design and implementation of appliance energy efficiency policy and of course also open to any other concerned stakeholder or citizen that is interested in the topic. The course consists on seven modules. The first module is on the introduction of appliance energy efficiency policy, followed by the regulation, a deep dive into regulation, be it minimum energy performance standards, followed by information through deep dive into the energy labels, incentives and industry transformation, and also an overview in module five on data needs and data collection methods to really understand the market and make sure that all the progress that's been done with policy landscape is being properly monitored and improved with time, as well as an introduction to compliance in module six, followed by introduction to evaluation. Now all these modules are then wrapped up by a final assignment, as well as in each of the modules there is a mandatory evaluation, we like to call it activity, where the participants must perform this evaluation to complete the module. Upon the competition of these evaluations, the participant will have a certificate of competition of the modules. Now here's the link in this slide and we will share that in the chat as well, to sign up to the online course and we really encourage you to do so as it's something as I mentioned, it's self-paced, it is interactive, it is full of exercises and it's fun basically while really having deep dive understanding of compliance and energy efficiency policies, design and implementation tactics. Now before we move on to the presentations in the panel discussion, we wanted to bring to your attention the performance framework, which was developed by the SEED initiative and it serves as a visual representation of ongoing efforts to enhance energy efficiency in specific products as it can be visualized. Within the ladder, each run outlines the policy performance criteria including maps as well as label thresholds, for instance, could be also included for both categorical and endorsement label. These performance ladder also outline the potential future aspirational targets, as you can see in the upcoming example and the ultimate objective also of this ladder could be to visualize a harmonization of various policy tools ensuring coordinated efforts and allowing for a periodic revisions of the efficiency levels as needed as well. Now moving on to a specific example, an illustration of the ladder approaches provided in this slide where we showcase how countries in the Latin America region can work towards meeting the goals to the product efficiency goal to action with SEED, which SEEDs to double the efficiency by 2030 of selected products, in this case industrial motors and as you can see in this figure, it is proposed that by 2030, all countries including Chile achieve IE4, which is the super premium efficiency level for motors, emphasizing the replacement at all levels, which is crucial also to avoid the use of second hand efficient motors. While performance requirements can initially be set at the single level, as you can see in the 2025 suggested level, adopting a faced approach that can visualize in this performance ladder for maps with increased levels over time of energy efficiency and really deliver greater efficiency performance. This multi-level strategy also offers manufacturers a clear planning and horizon, which allows them to plan ahead and really be in line with the overall ambitions and plans of the government. It also allows and facilitates regional harmonization while aligning with international standards, such as those used or already stipulated in China and the United States. Next slide please. Now we can move on now to the presentations on appliance energy efficiency policy from country champions and we'll kick start with Nios sharing the European Union perspective. Thank you Nios, that was yours. Thank you very much Clara and Mel and thank you for the invitation. It's an honor to represent the EU perspective here. As was said already, appliance policies are of course kind of a policy to work over the long term and so let's say what I represent here will present here is of course the result of decades of work in the EU. Next slide please. We have effectively more than three decades of experience with appliance policies in the EU. As early as in the 70s there were a first attempt following the oil crisis in the 70s, there wasn't a first attempt to adopt energy labels for appliances. It was voluntary for the member states of the European Union so it wasn't greatly taken up. But then when the idea of a single market for the European Union came about and was realized in the early 90s then we had the first mandatory energy labels, the first one being for refrigerators, household refrigerators and there we basically have the third generation of labels now and together with maps as well what we call in Europe eco design requirements but effectively minimum energy performance requirements and requirements on other types of performances like noise. And it's been tremendous the reduction in average consumption of the stock of refrigerators in Europe and we have meanwhile expanded the program of maps and labels to 30 product groups roughly covering almost half of all electricity going through all or half of all electricity consumed in the EU is going through appliance that are regulated one or the other way. Next slide please. So why have we been doing this? Well it's really because there are multiple benefits of this and we regularly publish so-called eco design impact accounting reports that take stock and try to quantify the accumulated benefits of this and the latest version has just been published and it's estimated that in the European Union consumer expenditure in 22 was reduced by some 89 billion euros and that annual saving is set to increase to around 150 billion euros by 2030 as the stock of appliances is changes and and the benefits of the better appliances come to fruition. Just a few examples well perhaps on the right side you can see the circle there which is an illustration of where the savings occur. There's a lot in heating and cooling also quite a lot in lighting electronics food refrigeration and cooking appliances but also industrial components so all the benefits are not occurring in the residential sector also quite substantial in the commercial and industry sectors. Just a few examples new rules that will apply as of mid next year on phones and tablets will are estimated to to save consumers around 20 billion euros a year by 2030 because of lower acquisition costs because we have also set durability requirements repairability requirements leading to longer lifetime for smartphones. Horizontal rules on off and standby mode of electricity consumption were introduced in 28 and they have been strengthened a number of times and the latest in 23 with the effect of next year and they are estimated to lead to 36 terawatt hours of savings by 2030 or around 8 billion euros of annual savings by then. As I mentioned I already mentioned refrigerators it's roughly 16 billion euros per year by 2030 and electric motors and variable speed drives importantly to allow the motors to operate with a let's say in function of demand and needs they are likewise estimated to save around 11 billion euros per per year and this consumer expenditure but there are many other co-benefits next slide please and this is let's say of course the main takeaway this is good for consumers but it's also good for the climate the environment health we set requirements also on air pollutant emissions for when it's relevant noise emissions and so on. The savings of course will help reduce the needs for investments in the energy system and it drives manufacturers to innovate and improve their appliances over time and invest in that and therefore also gain a competitive advantage. An important lesson from Europe is I think that it's important to involve industry manufacturers, importers, retailers but also NGOs and independent experts when we design these policies and calibrate the ambition level. It's as was also mentioned it's important to realize that this is a kind of long-haul policy that doesn't have necessarily high immediate effects it needs to be sustained effort and that requires sustained resources as well to develop the policies to update or maintain them of course for to test to the test capacity laboratories understanding consumer behavior and so on a market market's failings and compliance but of course the good news is that there's such a lot of different experiences in this field and that's of course why also the course is there there's no need to start from scratch learning from others and reusing what's suitable in a specific national context is is very reasonable to do even in the European Union we don't do everything ourselves we learn from colleagues abroad including the US or elsewhere and and I would say a second message is to be pragmatic depending on your situation and so on start take one step by step and then you can expand scope and ambition levels and so on and finally I would say this I think this is a key importance not least for the European Union try to address also another other important aspects of the life cycle because for some products much of the energy is actually used in in upstream and not in during operation for for instance computers and tablets a lot of energies goes into production and so things like durability repairability spare part requirements are very important and so just to highlight that we launched a portal the link is there a portal to the brand new it was launched last week or second april where you can find extensive information on our policies and above that is the the April database which where all energy labeled products in Europe have to be registered and which gives a phenomenal transparency on the efficiency levels achievable and on the market in Europe and that's of course also something that's open to the whole world and you you can use as much as you want it's available with the apis and so on and and it's already used extensively for online retailing and by platforms like google and amazon to show the labels thank you for your attention actually else for this european union perspective with this framing we will move on to to hear from juban chiang the vice director and associate professor on energy labeling center from the china institute of standardization is to share the the china perspective thank you okay thank you clara and thanks male i'm eugencia from china national institute of standardization so good morning good afternoon and good evening everyone uh it's my pleasure to share some perspectives based on china's practices so in my opinion uh applies energy efficiency policy package uh can bring multiple benefits by impacting our market manufacturers and consumers and help policy makers to achieve national energy and climate goals so firstly for the market energy efficiency standards and the labeling programs can raise awareness of purchasing efficient appliances accelerate the uptake of highly efficient equipment according to a study by a sector association the average awareness level of energy label in 2015 to 2017 has reached 89 percent for the urban residents the percent is 96 so it's higher than other similar green labels if we take the ac market for example due to the new ambitious uh sorry please go back yeah if we take the ac market for example due to the new ambitious energy efficiency standards and the labeling program uh we should raise uh various speed ac and fix the speed ac together the market share of variable speed ac which is has more higher energy efficiency rates increases from 60 percent in 2018 to 93 percent in 2021 and also for the manufacturers and consumers the more and more stringent energy efficiency standards drive the manufacturers to speed up the recession the development of energy saving technologies and the scale up its application that's to provide the consumer with affordable efficient appliances and help them to save electricity costs uh the for example um uh the e-standers of refrigerator in china has been revised for by four times uh and the uh daily consumption of the refrigerator has uh has dropped to a larger extent and also in the u uh the same picture with nil maybe the earlier electricity consumption of the refrigerator freezer has dropped to 180 kilowatt hours and also for the government the energy efficient policy package mobilized product efficiency to achieve carbon reduction targets also take the ac for example from 2008 to 2023 the average efficiency apf keeps the increasing from 3.86 to 4.89 improved by nearly 30 percent uh let's please next slide please okay uh under the uh energy efficient standards labeling and also some incentive program and also some maybe government procurement um they have uh comprehensive comprehensive impact on the market the maps have to fill out the low efficiency products and also the grade two and the grade one have to promote high efficiency products and also they provide the technical uh reference uh for incentive for incentive program for the government procurement and also for some income tax incentives uh for manufacturers and and by doing so uh the overall level of the market has been increased to a larger extent so for the newest uh progress in china uh during the 14th fell year plan period uh 10 standards has been released including the electric electric fans fluorescent lamps and also displays commercial uh in actual magnetic stoves and also head pumps and so on and also they're also developing uh 17 military energy efficiency standards for rough generators and for micro computers and so on so that's all thank you thank you gs so much for this uh overview of the china uh energy efficiency policy um framework for appliances and equipment now we move on to the Sub-Saharan Africa perspective uh through our speaker today Bradley Makaliki who is a technical uh lead expert in the EVA project and is also represented thank you as far as you're uh thank you Clara thank you Malin and IE for writing exactly to share the perspectives on the allies energy efficiency the information I'm going to share is based on the project we are implementing together with UNIDO which is sponsored by the Swedish dominance uh and it's being implemented in two regions the southern african development community as well as the eastern african community uh covering 21 member states it's based on uh four approaches to change which include the improvement of a regulatory framework where we are developing a minimum energy performance standards for various appliances that are prioritized by the member states then uh private sector supports to bring and board uh private sector to implement energy efficiency projects and we are giving incentives for them to put up demonstration projects and then capacity building both at individual and institutional level we are we are supporting member states especially in testing uh which is important as you implement the energy efficiency policies you need to verify that the actual products that are being sold on the market do really comply to the standards that are set and then the last one but not the least is on our head let's raise it so from this we have learned that the importance of energy efficiency policy relating to appliances at various levels can include that household uh to reduce household energy abuse which will make available I think additional disposable income for the family to use elsewhere in terms of grid reliability this will reduce on electricity shortages and blackouts uh we have had the experiences especially in the sardic region where member states are faced deficit generation and in countries like South Africa and Zambia currently I think we have some form of low chaining on a daily basis uh so if we implement energy efficiency I think it can mitigate some of those challenges that we are facing in regards of meeting demands from the available supply so at national level also it will reduce the capital and loan side up in power stations and bridge upgrades and slows demand for new growth when you implement the standards especially uh it goes to consumer protection where we avoid being dumping grounds for technologies that have been banned elsewhere and then in terms of energy efforts it will reduce on the outflow of funds tied to pure purchases electricity inputs and also strengthen national security last but not the least is the aspect of I think protecting the environment the I'm living in an era where there's climate change and especially for those countries that are dependent on generation from fossil fuels if we embark on energy efficiency generally they will reduce on the carbon footprint that that country presents next slide so in terms of the mechanisms available for transforming the markets to energy efficiency here I'm showing a graph which is showing a plot of the volume of product sold against their efficiencies we see that the dotted lines in the market that is unregulated the volume of product sold follows a normal distribution where low numbers in terms of low efficiency products as well as low numbers in terms of higher efficiency products are sold but the moment we introduce minimum energy performance standards we cut off the shaded area in blue of products that are inefficient from the market and see an immediate jump in the efficient products that are being sold on the market because at this moment manufacturers are just complying with the standards that have been set the next blue line indicates that if we introduce labels which gives information to end users when they are buying products and the performance of the products we are going to the markets to sell more efficient to products if again we introduce energy efficiency procurement guidelines as well as other labels such as endorsement labels which are shown here as energy stock then we try to push the market to sell more higher efficiency products and in this case I think we also benefit from the advantage that if we implement this successively then we can double the rate at which energy efficiency update is being effectively I think implemented both at country level as well as regional level with the regional collaboration thank you I end here for now thank you thank you so much my colleague for this overview it was really really impressive for us to see all the good work that the Sub-Saharan Africa region is doing together with ULIDO within the ELA project and I'm sure many of the participants also enjoyed this overview with this I hand over to Nihal Bindra a senior manager at Clasp in India to share with us the India perspective thank you for joining us Neha and the floor is yours thank you thank you so much for inviting me here it's a pleasure can yeah all right so in the last presentations also we've heard that appliances have a major impact on our climate now we tried to quantify this a little bit further and then our estimates revealed that appliances are responsible for approximately 40 percent of energy related CO2 emissions and this includes both direct as well as indirect emissions and the appliance impact is also pulled into other sectors such as industrial commercial and transport so if you could if you look at this graph then industrial sector basically the appliances and equipment that are used in industrial sector contribute almost 50% to the overall energy related G and G emissions from appliances and if you wanted to put it in perspective then these emissions are equal to roughly the total CO2 emissions from China Europe and Brazil next slide please so to reduce the impact of appliances on climate it has been proven that appliance energy efficiency is one of the most cost-effective tools and recognizing that over 120 countries in the world have already adopted and developed SNL program which could which are at different stages so some countries have recognized the program of other countries others have developed their own and the programs are in different stages such as nascent mature and advanced depending on the level of advancement and the level of production that the country has in the COP 28 so just to give a little bit of a global perspective like why appliance energy efficiency is so important in COP 28 in December countries signed up for doubling energy efficiency by 2030 in first ever global stock bank report and standards and labeling is one of the key contributors to doubling energy efficiency now I wanted to give a little bit of spotlight on India perspective so in India 24% of contribution to a residential energy to energy consumption is from the residential sector and if we look at the amount of savings that this SNL program has attributed to for India it's around 60% so out of all the energy efficiency savings that India has achieved 60% of that has been contributed by the standards and labeling program if we look at the last five-year period and associated monetary saving it's around 15.6 billion US dollars so that's huge so this is the kind of monetary as well as emission saving that the program can result in and hence it's it's really important to me can we move on to the next slide please thank you so some of the key stakeholders for the program are of course policymakers, businesses and consumers if we were to just summarize everything that all of us have said then for policymakers the key benefits include cost savings for the country the program also helps in meeting national climate change goals it helps addressing net zero targets that each country has and it reduces ethnic electricity demands and overall it provides energy security to the country and the world at large for consumers it results in reduced electricity bills because if we are using efficient appliances then the electricity consumption gets reduced and then it provides access to affordable efficient appliances and for businesses it provides competitive advantage it provides opportunity for technological innovation it removes trade market barriers for trade if products were to be sold from one country to another and it also provides job creation opportunities thank you. Thank you very much Niha for that open view particularly for coming back to the big picture and aspects of this which I want to talk about a bit more now and thanks everybody for their interventions as well so as Niha mentioned all governments got together late last year and agreed to the concept of working together to double the rate of improvement of energy efficiency between now and 2030 so of course applied to policy as we've seen is one of the one of the more successful policy measures that governments can endorse and can continually improve upon even if they're already doing and already doing well one of the things we see when we need to have near-term action so 2030 is not far away is one of the most practical things to do is do more of what you're already doing rather than try and bring come up with new policies completely so ratcheting up standards introducing incentives for appliances those sorts of things where you're based on basing this on an on existing policy infrastructure that's that's the one of the quickest ways the most effective ways of getting savings but but in the concept in the context of doubling I don't know is Niha still with us or has he had to drop out? I'm here you're here no so Niels can I just start with you and and and just ask you in in the concept of the need to double the rate of improvement of energy efficiency how do you see the commissioners of prior standards and land or prior energy efficiency policies contributing to that doubling how important are they going to be as part of your approach? I think they're gonna I mean focus is very much now on delivery I would say in the European Union in the last five years we had a political mandate of let's say at the federal EU level where where I work in the executive focused a lot on putting in place a legislative framework to enable us to meet ambitious energy and climate policy goals in 2030 and get us on the path towards net zero in 2050 and we now have this quite comprehensive framework agreed just just last week one of the last pieces fell into place a bill energy performance and buildings directive very important as well and so I think there's there's a common sense now that now the focus needs to turn to delivery and implementation and on specifically on appliance standards and programs we have actually as part of this last mandate also reviewed our legal basis for that we used to do maps on so the eco design directive was was revised and so now we have a very sound basis for for delivering continuing to deliver and we have very ambitious program in the next two years to revise a lot of our existing maps and labels so that they they get up to speed with markets and technologies and they deliver even more and I think it's funny we we saw the refrigeration here was one of the first products we had started with in the union and just two years ago as a little anecdote I bought the best fridge I could I renovated my kitchen I bought the best fridge I could find on the market via our database on labeled products it was a b labeled it was a b labeled the fridge and it was 116 kilowatt hours so beating the average now now actually the a category is full of products now just two years on so although we've been regulating fridges for for decades there is still improvements to come and we're going to try to harvest a lot of those savings of course and then as I said we're also going to focus increasingly on on harvesting the savings in the production phase of products and and making sure that appliances last longer because this is very popular to to consumers that we make their appliances last longer and make them repairable because that saves a lot of as well at least for some types of appliances you can say the low hanging fruits have perhaps have perhaps been been captured in Europe at least and there there's a lot the relative importance of the other cycles of other phases of the like cycle of the product of course increase but I'm I'm sure this is going to take take up an increased let's say importance in the EU because focus is so much on delivery and showing actual value for for consumers. Thanks Niels that's really enlightening and I think the work that the commission is doing on the longevity and the repairability of appliances is extremely important and I I hope it will be something that the rest of the world follows so great great great developments there I mean people do talk about the embodied energy of course in appliances and in most of the traditional appliances they use so much more in use than in manufacture that it's not such an issue but as you say as we as we go towards the margins of the most efficient products we can find it becomes more significant so really really important to make those make those other services available to consumers so maybe we can move on to Yuan Xia from from Sinus and ask about about China's ambitions for net zero by 2060 if I'm not wrong how do you think appliance policy can help make that happen by by doing things more quickly if you wouldn't mind if you're still with us perhaps not yeah yeah you are okay I've got you now thank you in China we have developer energy efficiency standards maybe for 67 products maybe accounting for 80 percent of building energy consumption and also maybe more than 70 percent of industry consumption so we think maybe so during increased appliance energy efficiency is also very important to reach the carbon peak and carbon neutrality goals so during the 14th five year plan period this means 2021 to 2025 there are still two years left the NDRC and will speed up will speed up the review of the energy efficiency standards as I have said we we have we have published 10 standards and also there is still 17 standards under development and also we have planned to develop standards maybe for electric vehicle charging stations the servers the storage devices and some new appliances to deeply explore the energy saving potential so and this year the NDRC has also published a document about the top-run level of 43 products to guidance the industry progress and also to guide the standards review so maybe that's the work we have been doing thank you and of course we will watch what China is doing in this space because it's going to impact us all because you're one of the major suppliers of product around the world and I think that one of the things that's always been really amazing to the rest of the world is the breadth of your program the number of products that you cover and the fact that you have very much a routine of revising and reviewing standards and you're looking at what's going on around the world you know 20 years ago it was much more of an in-looking inward-looking program for now of course you're looking at a collaboration with international standards processes and making sure this is a really global process so it's great to see that and maybe I can turn to India and to Niha yeah in this India put a lot of emphasis on the doubling of energy efficiency through its G20 presidency last year how do you think the appliance programs can contribute to that aspiration I think appliance program will play a very critical role in meeting that target as I was sharing the impact that is associated with the program it's huge and now Bureau of Energy Efficiency is also putting in even more effort in kind of intensifying both the policy development as well as its implementation through kind of ensuring compliance at the stage level so that is one and second is that you know we are planning to work to kind of develop a roadmap for appliance energy efficiency in particular to help India meet the doubling the goal of doubling energy efficiency so the roadmap will lay out some of the key appliances the key sectors and how and what needs to be done for each of those appliances if we were to keep on track of the part of doubling energy efficiency and we're hoping to get that some of that you know analysis out by the end of the year I think that would kind of pave the way and kind of show the light in terms of how the targets need to be met and first of all even before they need to be met first of all defining the target for each of the appliances that we were to double of course yeah yeah thank you because again India is another market to watch what happens there influences everybody I mean I'm a firm believer that we wouldn't have high quality LED lighting in all of our homes in Europe had India not not not as quickly as we have had India not chosen to really you know take this problem on very very early on and and and you know show the rest of the world how to do it so so thank you um that's that's really interesting so of course you know everybody every continent every region has its own priorities um but um I'd like to turn to Africa and to Redley and and ask I mean we used to try and talk about energy efficiency in in in in the African region and people used to say oh don't bother we haven't got enough you know efficiency the rich rich man's a rich country's problem but um we of course wanted to kind of persuade people that if energy was used efficiently from the start then more people could have access to modern energy services um how do you think that's playing out is that working is in all that we should be doing and how does appliance policy contribute to that process that's if you're still with us Redley my mic wasn't me I think there's so much for that question yes I'll start with the standard perspective I think around 207 208 uh utilities predicted the um deficit in generation and uh working through the southern African powerful demand side management working group they asked I think uh member state utilities to implement um energy efficiency programs which would mitigate uh these deficit in generation so that they match the supply and demand and included the rollouts uh in some cases for free over exchange of incandescent bulbs uh with efficient uh either energy or CFLs I think there's a number of countries in the subject region implemented that program and some are still implementing there was also I think energy switching in terms of uh water heating switching from electric diesels as well as um uh going to solar water heaters and Zimbabwe is one of the countries that have also instituted the law where new construction in terms of domestic housing needs to move away from uh electric diesels to solar water heaters and then others like power factor correction for the industry and also uh the civic energy ministers uh with this challenge uh made a decree that uh all member states should pay out inefficient lighting targeting incandescent by 2019 but we saw that only two or three countries I think instituted sanctuary instruments to do this plan so they're coming on board of the ELA projects the energy efficient lighting and the prances project brought a systematic approach I think for member states to embrace the implementation of energy efficiency so that the savings that could be made can go towards connecting either new customers on board or just being able to mitigate the deficit that the utilities were meeting in terms of uh not matching the demand and the supply so the ELA project like I mentioned in my presentation is looking at four aspects one of them is improving the regulations so far we have developed a minimum energy performance standards for lighting uh as well as for pulling appliances which involve refrigerators and air conditioners uh the approach is to harmonize these standards within the region so that we can uh reduce the barriers to trade as well as reduce in terms of expenditure and then of compliance efforts if the member states national standard bodies are collaborating so far five countries have adopted these maps for lighting at national level that includes the DRC, MAMOTAMIC, ESWATINI, NAMIBIA and South Africa and today I think South Africa sorry tomorrow there will be a conclusion of a stakeholder meeting with the industry association because now these maps for lighting will be made mandatory. For maps for pulling appliances which involve refrigerators and air conditioners Zimbabwe has been one of the early mover countries to adopt these at national level and then six other countries so five other countries are being supported to do stakeholder consultation so that they are also adopted at national level which include NAMIBIA, OTANA, South Africa itself, Zimbabwe as well as say ships. Based on the program I think as we implement these policy packages focusing on regulation information to the end users as well as manufacturers as incentives there's also an aspect of capacity building that is required which is very important especially in forms of testing for the member states because when we are doing this project we have noticed that there's lack of testing capacity within the two regions here in ESC and Salem so we have supported the member states one for the lighting by purchasing a portable lighting test equipment which has been made available to each of the 21 member states on the project and then we have selected three countries to further capacitate them with additional equipment which will be stationary now at the national standards for the laboratories and these will be centers of excellence and they will be accessible by the other member states within the region so that in case a member state is unable to test a particular product and reference that product to this test center of excellence within the region so and also by encouraging this mutual collaboration we'll be reducing in terms of the compliance efforts that are required to implement these energy efficiency policies that we developed under the project so we have also seen member states I think embracing this by producing the stated instruments such as energy efficiency strategy and action plans to set targets so that by 2030 they meet the energy efficiency targets that they are set within these policies. Thank you Redley and that is a it actually needs on to what I was going to ask everybody else very briefly next but you covered it very well the the importance of international collaboration I think the ELA project is one of the most outstanding examples out there of how international collaboration can help countries how it can help things happen more quickly more cost effectively even the whole idea of sharing resources and having test labs for example that have mutual recognition agreements across regions so they can be used by anybody and these are all things that we need to see happening in other regions and it's great to see the Africa taking a lead in this in this collaborative effort so I just want to go to a couple of other our other speakers and very quickly just in less than a minute Niels what do you see the benefits of international collaboration are for appliance policy I think it's very much linked to the the let's say the the cost and the difficulty of standardization but also of course facilitating international trade even for a region like Europe I can tell you and even the richer member states in Europe find it difficult to have the expertise required to have test labs for all the products we cover and there they they call upon the European Union so the federal level to have test labs and so on or they they share it a bit among each other so even amongst the the the kind of the advanced regions that have had this program for decades it's a it's a challenge and so if we can share this challenge better that's that's great and to give you an example we are right now reviewing our standards for external power supplies and also for electronic displays and we are very much looking at what the US is doing in this field lending their test results and so on and and looking at their analysis and and these are of course globally traded products so if we can align this is better for everybody including for industry and consumers because it it takes the cost cost of compliance down brilliant thank you very much yeah they're exactly the sorts of benefits we we hope to you'd mention and maybe I could just um have the last word ask um do you I end to have the yeah sorry to have the last word in terms of this international collaborative approach you know how do you think um how do you think China is benefiting from that uh sorry uh kairo beto question so how is china benefiting from international collaboration on energy or appliance energy efficiency policy oh yeah the first thing I think maybe for the for a bigger producer of appliance in the world I think maybe if we if there is a national original organization I think it can prevent inefficient products faced out by one country from blowing into other countries so maybe we can achieve yeah we can be more aggressive or carbon goals together and also maybe for for us it can reduce the cost of testing and the certification reduces the resources waste yeah I think that's the great answers thank you um and they're they're exactly what this this conversation is about and what this course is about so the we've produced the supply of energy efficiency course so that people can share experience from around the world and we don't have to start from scratch we will of course update it as experience develops and we hope that everybody can use it to maybe it's it's a place where the policies are already advanced but there are new staff or it's a place where policies in this area are new everybody needs to learn more from it so hopefully this is a multi-purpose course that will help speed up the application of effective appliance energy efficiency policies and with that I'd like to thank our speakers I'd like to thank the team for producing the course and producing the webinar and I hope people who do undertake the course find it useful and enjoyable but please do give us feedback let us know how you think it could be improved and we will continually update it thank you very much indeed and have a great day thank you