 Hello everybody. This is going to be a lightning talk so we only have 10 minutes time and also we don't want to take the time from the people coming after us so if you want to settle down and then we can start promptly on time and get going with our talk. Okay so this is one user buck walk from Argentina and this is Reiner, user Boosling from Germany and we are both here thanks to the tandem scholarship of Wikimedia Toshland. We are not going to talk about the scholarship right now but if you have questions we can tell you about it later. But to get this scholarship in this tandem going we had to discuss what we're going to present here and we decided on the GLAM projects and the idea is to compare the cultural landscapes and the approaches to GLAM projects in Argentina and in Germany. So I'm going to start out to explain to you how we're doing GLAM in Germany. We talked over two hours, three hours on Zoom and so I'm not going to bore you with the details so I'm just going to go through the little points. So in Germany we're working of course on an individual level doing our usual work and we keep that on track on the GLAM portal in the German Wikipedia language version. We go to GLAM on tour events as you see here to the castle of San Sucia in Potsdam in Berlin. These are usually weekend events where the hotel costs and travel costs are sponsored by the chapter of Wikimedia Germany and we also have what we call the cool tour which is small as a little downsized GLAM on tour which is only on the weekends which is only on a local level so the volunteers go there on their own expense and then we have in the lockdown we initiated something called GLAM Digital where museums are actually presenting themselves in Zoom conferences for two hours time. We have talks, exchanges virtually as we're actually doing it here with the audience outside of the venue here. We have a big chapter in Germany. They're not in the whole building they only have some floors there but I think they're working on getting all the floors. GLAM, the chapter Wikimedia in Deutschland has its own project. It's GLAM and Kultura and Gedeckens Institut and they have an own project manager who's very active helping us and also doing his own work with the institutions and there are other departments in there who are like in political lobbying, open education and open data. There's event management when they have to get the hotels for the GLAM on tour and things like that and there is a community engagements program that also help when you organize things or when we need literature and things like that. You can also go to community engagement and there's some special projects that we do. We have an annual meeting of all German speaking GLAM volunteers that includes also the people from Austria and Switzerland. They have their own chapters so I'm mainly talking about the Germans chapter but when we're talking about the German community that's Switzerland and Austria included. We have community initiated but chapter supported initiative that's the Kultura Board chapter that's somebody I am the Kultura Board chapter for instance and I'm going to have another lightning talk this afternoon at a quarter past two so comment here more about that. It's somebody who is more or less an intermediary between the volunteers and institutions and we have initiative by art historian students who are also active in as Wikipedia and they're trying to get merged these two communities. They made a living handbook to more or less give an aid how to write articles about art history that also would fit like the academic interests. So let's move to Argentina. So okay in Argentina most of the work is carried out by the chapter. I'll talk about the community led projects in the next slide but we usually approach the institutions we see what we can do together and once we know it's usually up to them to see how we can continue the work for example if they have a digitized archive or pictures we can teach them how to upload them to comments but if they don't want to do that we can upload them ourselves but right now our main focus is the GT station project that's a very difficult word sorry which is an eight-year-old project that it's been extremely successful with all those very nice statistics you can see there and actually it's going to be a poster session later today about it presented by Mauricio Villaljenta who is here among us so be sure to go there and ask him a lot of questions about it. We also offer courses both to the institutions and general public about the wikimedia movement in general intellectual property etc but what about the community there are some community initiatives that are presented to wikimedia Argentina and then carry out as chapter project because it's not the same to you know especially when you're approaching an institution to be just a sole volunteer than to have the support of your chapter and in the end we are a very small community we know each other very much and just a matter of you know creating a roadmap to see what we can do together hopefully by next year wikimedia I can tell you about the project that I'm building right now but hopefully those stickers can give you a hint of what I'm doing but there are some community led projects that are peening right now with the support of the WMF and wikimedia Argentina most notably Archivo Inundación by Berna Gaitan who is preserving the memory of the 2003 Santa Fe flood so some similarities we observe here is that we have a lot of support from our local chapters but we also have the same difficulties to approaching institution from the volunteer level and we have highly engaged individual editors so what are the differences in Germany most of the work is done by the community volunteers on a voluntary basis while here in Argentina most of the work is carried out by the chapter yeah and when it comes to resources in Germany we have a large community and we also have a large individual chapter with and that's also a big advantage with own money so we have less red tape when we want to apply for funds and for support and that is of course a very big advantage in Argentina we are a very small community and we have even less stuff compared to Germany and we don't have our own money we rely exclusively on what the WMF gives us so that also brings us to the further differences because of our self funded way of doing it in Germany we have a very self-contained community that doesn't share much to the international glam outreach and such things and the global community that's because we also only have to report to the German chapter so it's not really necessary to publish it in an English version and also yeah it's it's also a language thing there's a lot of people really don't want to communicate in English in Argentina we share our activities on the WMF outreach we also participate on the glam newsletter of the website not only to showcase what we do but also to learn what the rest of the world is doing and if we find some projects interesting to see how we can apply them here why it's not switching there we are yeah so what are the lessons learned I mean for me in Germany it's kind of like when I talked to one we should go more international we should if you're doing good you can also talk about it and you let the others know and we have to do more in that respect well I think we should do more things to empower the community to let some projects in glam and you know in all other kind of projects in the media universe but you know we could do some annual meetings between the members of the chapter to improve glam projects we can do something similar to the cultural chapter that Reiner will explain more detail later so we can have you know an intermediate between the institution and the sole volunteer that wants to do the work well so you actually a little bit less than one minute if there are any questions you know give us the lightning questions now okay okay it wasn't really intended I mean we are happy that we made it in these 10 minutes so we're yeah go ahead fast you hear or shout yes hi my name is Rima I'm from Indonesia so I just wonder what kind of institutions that you have approached I mean I really want to have a partnership with more scientific some institutions so just necessarily not really claim I mean a lot of scientific institutions like in Indonesia myself like National Science Academy they have a lot of collections on things but they are not necessarily a gallery an archive a library or a museum right there are a lot of scientific institutions and academies like that which normally they are not grams but they have collections of knowledge right I wonder whether you have tried to approach those kind of institutions as well or what is your experience regarding that thank you so we run out of time so if you want we can answer later but anyways thank you everyone for being here if you want to keep in touching with with me I'm at bad work on every single social media you can imagine anyone with media too and for Reiner you can also search for him with his username or at his email yeah thank you so much so sorry about really