 A lot of times we're brought back together because I'll get tagged in a Twitter thread that is started by Sticks calling you a coward for not debating him Yeah, I don't I don't understand it. I genuinely don't know why you know You know that transpired the way that it did I was down to debate I thought that you guys were gracious. You created like a really cool A trailer for it in what was it like May last year and I was like really pumped up I prepped for it and it's not like I don't already know what I want to say like ideologically, but like I did my research I watched his videos. I read his his Twitter threads and tweets Like I tried to learn about my opponent because I want to go into this prepared and you know really have a fun debate I think it could have been you know, if not instructive Or constructive at least entertaining, but it didn't happen because as many of you remember He canceled one day before the debate was supposed to take place one day before And I still appeared on the show and I think that we were really polite like I wasn't gonna assume that he chickened out I don't think he like he debates lefties before so I don't I don't think that you know He's afraid of me. I like come on So I just kind of gave him the benefit of the doubt and then on the show I think that we were clear in saying you guys said you'd hosted a debate. I said let's reschedule but October of 2019 where he makes this tweet randomly out of the blue that somebody I think tagged me in and he's like Why don't lefties ever want to debate me and I'm like what? Canceled out on me. Let's let's do it. Let's do it. So, you know, we go back and forth through the DMs and I I reach out to you guys so we can schedule we get like a tentative day And I bring that to him and he's in a different country. So the time zones are completely off So he Wasn't necessarily okay with that debate. He said he'd need like a Red Bull IV because that would be super early. So I'm like, all right Well, how about this? Let's wait until you're back in the US because he mentioned that he may be making a trip back And if he's able to be there long enough to adapt to the time zone that probably just be better because I don't want to debate I'm when he's tired. I think that's you know unfair I wouldn't sure I wouldn't perform well. It doesn't you know, it doesn't matter. I'm cool with it And so I told him to let me know when he's gonna be in the United States And he said he will he didn't know when he was coming back and that was the last that we talked about it And then all of a sudden in April I don't remember what I tweeted about but he responded in my thread saying oh, is that why you backed out of the debate with me? Yeah, which again I'm puzzled because it's like I was more than willing to debate you So I screen capped the DMs that we had where the last correspondence was me saying Let me know if that day is gonna work for you or you're gonna be back I'm paraphrasing and the last response was me saying okay perfect because he said he'd he'd confirm and he never did So I'm just wondering it's like you can't alter reality when we have these receipts like if you don't want to debate me Probably because you're lazy. It's a lot of work. I admit then that's fine But like stop trying to make this into a pissing contest like if you don't want to debate Then stop bringing it back up because I assumed that you didn't want to like when I didn't hear back for him from him after like two weeks I'm like all right. I'm not gonna deal with this so this time I was a lot more of a dickhead to be honest because it's like okay I'm not gonna go back and forth bouncing dates around like and going back through like we've already been through this before And I don't believe that he's going to follow through so I said look I talked to Drunken peasants again, they give us a date and I said okay This is the date take it or leave it and you're gonna wear a fucking shirt to this debate if you like it or not Now I shouldn't have said that but my sense of humor like you know I don't think that he got that I was joking about that like I wasn't trying to like dictate the dress code I was just being a dickhead But he decided no, I'm not gonna do that and there's a couple of really weird things so in the DMs and I have all of these part of the reason why the debate was kind of Not going to take place was because he seemed reluctant to have it on drunk and peasants And he never gave me a reason why and I argued that one you guys already put in all the time You made the trip like it's unfair and second of all like the optimal time for this debate would be At the time that you guys stream like you want the most eyeballs ideally, right? So I mean right there's no reason not to and another point to that is he's been on this show before And it was nothing but a positive conversation granted we had some we had Lauren Chen on So it was someone kind of on his side of the political spectrum But there's no reason why he would think we would treat him unfairly And it is very strange that of all places he wanted to have the debate on Andy Worski's channel instead for some reason I don't I don't know why Yeah, like why change it you guys are fair like you guys are like Relatively left leaning as far as I know, but it's not like you wouldn't disagree like you and I have had disagreements on the show before you know like there's no like there's no logic to it right and You know, I I'm trying to remember like I have all the DMs open on my phone as well But he says like the time doesn't really matter Because even if we did it like at some weird time like at 9 p.m. What about like I'm that's not what he said I'm paraphrasing, you know, there'd be a lot of eyeballs because and this is this is what he said Let me find the exact one This will be a pretty high-tier matchup. That's what he said in October, right? So, you know, this is gonna bring a lot of eyeballs, but here's what he said now After, you know, the third time when this was supposed to happen I have the tweet up because I he blocked me after this but somebody screenshotted it He said I'm not getting up at 2 30 in the morning to debate someone with a significantly smaller audience So now it's not a high-tier matchup now. I have two small of an audience So it's like, okay, I don't I don't know what to tell you like I was more than willing to we have all the DMs We have the receipts. You don't want to debate. That's fine, but stop trying to make it into a pissing contest You can't keep saying why won't the lefties debate me if you keep fucking canceling. So I just I don't know I don't get it and calling you out directly if you're so insignificant Why is he tweeting at you directly calling you a coward for not debating him? And and he also used a lot of weird excuses. First of all, we've started earlier to accommodate people that live in Europe So that's never been an issue. Like we've we've had people in the UK, which is only an hour Behind where he lives now. We've done that before so that's never a problem Also, he tried to blame it on I remember the first time he tried to blame it on alcoholism that he was struggling with alcoholism and that's why he made all these promises he didn't keep and then This time it was like, oh, well, I didn't do it because I was moving to the Netherlands Which is a whole other weird thing like I bet I love the Netherlands. It's one of my favorite countries Why why would someone with his political views want to live in the Netherlands? I don't know, but that's an aside Yeah, maybe he's looking for a dragon. I Have a tweet about that as well because I was kind to him like I I didn't really know him Right before I knew that we were gonna debate So I did a lot of research into him and like I had no reason to assume that he was lying after he flaked out the first time So like I even said him like said to him. Let me see where I I told him that I'm glad that he's like sober and you know and healthy now and what not and that's a really good thing He's like, oh, well, thank you. I can't find it here Oh here it is. I said, let me just say that I'm glad that you're healthy and sober now And he said I appreciate it So it's like I'm not trying to be go out of my way to like be rude like because I still wanted Assumed that the debate would take place, you know, we plan for it. I already prepared for it I still have all my notes from like last time. So it's like there's no reason not to he just he didn't want to so I don't know why it just doesn't make sense. He blocked you He blocked me. Yeah, the chances of him doing a debate with you are like Almost zero now, right? It's it's basically it's done and he kind of confirmed to his he put out like a thread It's this is not happening and he had his BS reasons But like people who were following me sent the screenshot of the DM where I was the one waiting on him Like that you you can't lie about it if we have these screenshots like I I just I don't understand it Like it genuinely is perplexing to me because I think that I was incredibly polite You guys were kind you went out of your way to take time out to prepare for it It just doesn't make sense to me and then to keep coming back after you have declined debates or flaked out To basically try to like egg me on to debate you. Oh, why didn't you debate me? It's like it doesn't make any sense like this is not normal This is weird and he seemed like an intelligent guy like we have political disagreements But you know Like he seemed normal at least in the sense that he wouldn't like deliberately lie when it's verifiably You know false when I can just show you the screenshot. I I don't know. I don't get it Whatever it's probably his alcoholism. Well, he claims he's clean now. I don't know Most alcohol and I lie about that and I do believe that he moved to the Netherlands Because he met a woman there that he's in a relationship not a dragon. So yeah So I I think and that makes sense that that's fine that he moved I don't see how he and I see people in the chat saying now the Netherlands is center, right? I mean maybe for Europe, but I've been there so many times. It's one of the more liberal places I've ever been in my life More liberal than most countries Yeah, absolutely. Also, let me just say I wish him nothing, but like good things like I don't I don't hate him Like I just it's irritating, right? I'm not gonna lie. I'm a little bit Upset that I had to jump through hoops only to have it amount to nothing But I mean it's like he's you know, whatever his glasses look into the camera and passionately tell dusty the conchateel That he's a beautiful bird. There we go. Oh Wow, that's You're a beautiful bird Wow Being seductive, so it was good. That's probably just puked Dusty popped a feather He's he's in it. I just want to I just want to add on about sticks that he's a fucking Weirdo dweeb that sucked out of a debate like nine times with a hella weird excuses you fucking pussy. Oh, sorry That's just me though I love it. I love it when people mix up sticks with razor fist because they have they both have like the leather jackets and the long hair But people do it all the time. What a great tag team that would be like if they have tag team debates Yeah, you want to know what's funny is that when I when I told people that I was gonna be debating the sticks like my followers were Like isn't that that guy that Calculin's be crushed on drunken peasants and now he's coming back for more It's like no, that's a different conservative Yeah, it's the leather jacket and the long hair. I think they're kind of similar But you know razor fist is just a guy doing Dennis Miller and he's even admitted that before That's cute