 We have had our program on the net, but the program today is first this introduction, and then we have CEDA with Carolina and Johan coming here to discuss on how they work from CEDA's part of view. And then we'll go into Carina talking about the success practice on the global market for off-grid solutions. And then we'll actually have some practical experiences of what the theory and the science does, which this has been part of some publications in journals. So then we'll also hear how things have been developed and done out there. And then we'll have a Q&A session after that to discuss. And then we'll have some coffee break where we can keep on the Q&A. And then we'll go into the problematic tool for online matchmaking. We'll have a 15-minute presentation of that, which means that we'll just go through how it works. And then people need to go online themselves after the seminar to sort of understand and try it out. But it's actually, there is a version working out in space. And then 1525, we'll look more into how things, the innovation development, and so on, can work through the system. We have our university working with students and the next generation engineers. We have also the Swedish International Science Parks incubators and science parks, who actually then is sort of coming after the, when the research has come out into an incubator. And then Windwater will take out all these good examples. And then the electricity will also take these innovations out there together with Urban Tech Sweden. And then we'll have some Q&A after that and then closing mainland in weeks. Where are we? We have been working since September 2020 through this implementation. And we are now at the final stage for the final seminar. And by the end of November, the whole project extended. We have had a steering group, which is practically basically all the project partners. And we have had a reference group also that have been following the project. And also some research from the University. There is one, when we looked at the program before, we saw also that we have had electricity and Urban Tech Sweden, but also like you said, an energy unit here, a Swedish energy unit in Sweden. We also have the members of Sweden, which is also an area that we need for scaling up and coming out. Okay. Yeah, we continue. So this is what you know what it is about. And we have been then on these different sites. We have been in Sweden during development. We have been in Lebanon, Tanzania, South Africa, Bolivia and Cuba doing activities. And the whole idea here is basically to enable innovations in the wash sector to reach off-grid environments and vulnerable populations in the humanitarian crisis. But also, I would say for the off-grid buyers. And we have then tested innovative sustainable solutions in collaboration with buyers and users. So that is really what we are now 100% today. So we have been working with local agencies. We have been working with innovators. We have been working with end users and buyers. And I hope you are online. You are very welcome to the presentation here and the whole meeting. I hope you have been able to follow us on what everything is about here. So, of course, there are some impact and effects that we have been trying out for the whole list project, which is then giving an impact in terms of sustainable development goals. And these are then the goals that we have been aiming at to give an impact on climate action. There are people working with circular loops within the wash where you take human waste into fertilizer. We have innovation in infrastructure, good health and renewable energy as it has also been. But, of course, our main thing has been very much in the clean water and sanitation area and partnerships. All right. So now, I think I would like to welcome you from SIDA, Carolina and Joak. Hi, everyone. I'm Carolina. As you already know, because I work together with you in a unit called, and I need to read it. The unit for strategic partnership, private sector innovation and new methods at SIDA's headquarters here in Stockholm. We work as a catalyst for new actors. Everywhere in SIDA, everyone is working with new partnerships and new collaborations that we are trying to capitalize new actors. I will talk a little bit about the private sector. You are here. It's going to talk more about innovation. So this is the setup. And yeah, we will elaborate a little bit on this. To work with the private sector, it's not new at SIDA. It's not a new phenomena. SIDA has been working with the private sector since actually as far back as the 60s or Swedish development collaboration for a long time, in different ways actually. But today, it's quite spelled out in our instruction. We are supposed to work with the actors from the private sector. It is stated in many of the country's strategies. So we do have, there is some attention in working with different and other actors. I do not use this. The definition of private sector collaboration is connectivity, aiming to engage the private sector to actively participate in the development results, more or less. And we see the private sector as quite broad. We include multinational companies, investors, and all the way to informal micro enterprises, entrepreneurs, informal actors in the private sector. We need to see the private sector as a big diversified group. The private sector is an engine for growth and for change and for development in all countries. The private sector contributes with knowledge and innovation and know-how and resources, capital and much more know-how. I used to work in the private sector myself. It was nice to hear Alfa Lavales in the room. I used to work with the food and agriculture specifically there. So I've seen how this is really an important and interesting mix when you meet. But it's all about having the state. You really have to have the state, the common goals, the private sector and the public sector. So the private sector really brings more and different perspectives, which is so key for working together is to identify common goals, as I said, to recognize each other's brains and having a mutual understanding and language. That has been one of the most difficult things to speak the same language when you collaborate. So that's something that we should really, really target and work as much as we can. As being a development agency, I think we're really faced with a new world, a new context where we also have to adapt. The world is changing rapidly. Things are changing and it's also a journey for us to maybe see traditional development cooperation working in other ways. Maybe not only as a partner, but also as mobilizing other partners to work together. But pressing issue that we talk about a lot right now in terms of the private sector, this funding gap. There's a huge gap of money that is needed to fund the SDGs, to fund agenda presented. It is said that the gap is mounting to 3.5 billion per trillion US dollars. And the ODA is not enough, so we need to direct more capital close to our cooperation countries. And this is something that we're working with a lot right now. We're looking at how can we create opportunities for opportunities in under invested markets? How can we bring investors to these two markets and just broaden this? And also, we're talking about how we can leverage our funds so that this will increase other capital. So we work with some mechanisms for collaboration and funding. And I would like to just talk about three of them. We have heard some of these before. We're working with challenge funds. This is a way, of course, to help entrepreneurs to get the credit and investments. Because it's difficult to get this in markets that has a high risk in complexity. And I know everyone here understands this and the challenges. And this has been a very successful way of supporting entrepreneurs and innovators in a lot of countries. Then we have, I'm not sure if you have heard about this, we have developed a method called PPDP, public private development projects. And it's a method where we see the work together with a company as partners. We are co-funding a project. There is a third part that is implementing the project. So we identify a common development challenge where we can meet and we meet in the sweet spot. And we implement something and we solve a problem. And this is being done in different places, together with Volvo, in Ethiopia, Petra Pak, in India and Bangladesh, for example, and H&M, and so on. It's a method that has been very interesting. We have good results from these kind of projects. And also we have a guarantee instrument, which has a great success to work with. And this is really a key way for SIDA to leverage financing. And this helped banks taking risks and sharing risks and mobilizing work. Okay. I will now show you this picture. And I'm going to talk quickly about it. There is an increased awareness, a lot of talk about sustainable business and sustainable business conduct. Companies working also, it has to work with human rights. And there are many frameworks, UN Global Principles. There is a new law within EU, HRDD, Human Rights Due Diligence, that is going to be implemented. All companies have to take responsibility for the food supply chain. So it's a huge commitment that the requirements are really, really high. And we are supporting, trying to help companies to follow this, because they need support. It's quite difficult to navigate in this new context. Okay. So I will wrap up now. So if anyone can talk. I just wanted to, I looked into our database and we have where, in which SIDAs are SIDA working with the private sector. And this is the list. So a lot in energy, decent work, general quality, climate action, and also SIDG number one. And hopefully we can make this list much longer. But yeah, we do have a lot of experience working in the private sector. And I will now leave it to you. And I have three minutes and one slide. And this is why we at SIDA work with innovation. Because if we look at development, and if we look at the timeline here, if we just continue as we've done during the years, we will see some progress. We will have some development, but it's not quick and fast and good enough. Because we have a very ambitious goal up there, then again, 2030 and SIDGs. And in order to go from here, we will now, up to there, is through innovations, through systems thinking, catalytic projects, and ideas, and methods. And I mean, we need to develop as an agency as well. So we are a bureaucracy, but we also need to adjust to the reality. And if we want to be one of the players that makes, that really makes a difference, we need to change. And we do this to work it in. First, internally, of course, we need to change as an agency. But we also work a lot with partners, funding partners, so that they can innovate, and so that they can help us to take those and reach those goals. But also a lot on collaboration. I think that's the main reason why I'm here today, to see who's willing to take this journey together with SIDGAP, so that we can reach and fulfill the goals that we, all together, are responsible for. And I think that was my previous idea. But I invite you to do contact SIDGAP. Go through what we have, and all the methods, the different kind of challenges that were mentioned, and see where can we work together, because we need to work together. That's the message here. How do they get in touch with you to work together? How does it start on a tactical level? Practical level, I would say an email. First, go through SIDGAP.sc and see what's there, because we try to put all the calls up online. We try to put everything down. You have calls, you have continuously called up. Yes, in various sectors, in various ways. Also, we link. So if we work with a partner, we add what they are working on at the moment. So we try to be as transparent as possible. And second, mail us. You have our names. Send a mail. Sometimes we can set up a meeting, and from there we take small steps, and all of a sudden we have this beautiful program together. Okay. So an individual company can email you, and then you can see what you can do with that. Sure. The most common answer would be, sorry, we can't, but look at this, or maybe you find there. And a network of companies could also then be interesting to link up with some of those calls. Sure. I mean, then we're sorry, we have a set of regulations and laws and protocols and so on that we need to follow. But as we work with innovation, we always find a way to... A question. John. Yeah. Thank you for the presentation. When you write innovation, is it, will SIDGAP be contributing to the development of innovation, or should it already be considered as an innovation before you start engaging in a project together with the company? Good question. First of all, we don't have a single definition of innovation that could be good to know. So we work broadly with the concept of innovation, because if we have a definition, I think we narrow it down. But we work within all stages when it comes to innovation. We work with aviation in various ways, in various projects. For example, we have a quite big research portfolio where we try to work a lot with research results and all the innovation and aviation in, I think, one in six countries doing this pilot work. But also in a later stage, the challenge funds we try to to come up with, or come in with, funding at the right moment for the innovators and entrepreneurs. And then also in the later stage. But I think we try to more or less cover the whole chain. Okay. Very good. Thank you. Small talk. Can I have a small talk? Yeah, well, also that while Karina gets up on the stage, during the presentation, you mentioned both entrepreneurs. And then you mentioned the pretty large companies, as example, in the PDT, the PDT program. But it comes to innovation. Does it matter whether it's a large company? Here comes the biggest, which is a large company or the small and medium size company. Does it really matter whether it comes to innovation? Is it directed to a certain category or companies? Again, a good question. It depends on what kind of idea and the innovation it is. Usually, working with CDI here on small enterprise, it is quite to find out where we can work together. Usually, we are an organization or a structure in the field. But sometimes we do. So it all depends. Yeah, more questions in there. We need to take the questions off at the mingle, otherwise the whole evening will be in. So thank you. Yes, that's great. We have a few friends who would arrange, let's say, a hack at the end of the four days, 24 hours in a row, just to be able to have, even if it's a little bit, with all these professional things, it has to be getting right and working, and whatever work the STD has to be saying. Sorry, it's a too long question. Yeah, please answer that at the break. It's a little cliffhanger. We need to go on. We need to get it to you. Yes. Thank you. Please, Karina. Thanks. I'm going to talk about the first factors and the global market third of great solutions. So before I dig into this, previously we presented other types of factors. We dig into procurement rules for the humanitarian sector. I'm not going to present that now, but there's a paper out there where we carried out interviews, for example, with SIDA, with UNICEF, and around some other people out in the field. So if you want to know more about how to get into the humanitarian sectors and the obstacles, then please go to Swash and Grow at Patreon. We have all our deliverables. Today I'm going to be presenting the work that my team and I have been working on this past year, actually two years, but quite intensively this year. It's part of our work understanding what can successfully lead to products. And in this case, what we're looking at is at the markets and social conditions, as well as the characteristics of specific products that can lead to either success or not success. And we call this a product development process. So two things. There's a bunch of other stuff that probably plays a role here, but we needed to focus the analysis. And so the analysis is focused on these two factors. How do products look? How should they look to respond to needs for the poor in basically different socioeconomic characteristics defining the poor? And before I move into this, bottom of the pyramid, for those of you not familiar with it, is basically the people at the very, very bottom of the pyramid, the poorest. And then the pyramid goes up to middle class and then the top of the pyramid, which is probably us. The two questions that we looked at were the characteristics. What are those that are important for accelerating, uptake, and scaling of innovations? And the second question is what are the socioeconomic conditions that either constrain or incentivize product development processes in context of poverty? What we did was we carried out four workshops together with our sister project, The Greatest Initiative, which is funded by our core funds from CEDA and recovered a two-sectors wash and energy. We had 48 participants globally from all regions of the world. Unfortunately, these were completely online right after the pandemic, but I think some of you were present and we got great insights. We also did interviews with our own innovators and an additional innovator that Swash and Grow was in connection and in contact with through one of the wind platforms, one of our events. We also screened the literature. We screened around 1500 papers related to the topics to understand what has been done. Initially, the idea was to do more fieldwork to try to find new data, but then pandemic comes and there is quite a lot of data to mine out there. So we decided to basically change we were forced to change our approach to the methods. What you see here is both how we what defined our methods, but also a result of this process that I just described. So this is the product development process that we defined for Swash and Grow. You have probably seen similar types or at least there's a million different types of product development processes. Some of them look very are drawn as circles. In this case, what we did was to try to understand which steps are important for the context that we needed to relate to, which is a poor context and whether there's a difference between what we usually conceive as an innovation process and what's needed to launch a product in poor context. So this is what we came up with. I won't go into all the details. You're welcome to look at this later. Essentially, the process that we suggest here comes first of all from the interviews with a lot of you. It was extremely inspiring to understand what you have gone through and how some of the steps that we are showing here are not included in regular product development processes. And second, it was extremely interesting to understand how the different steps relate to finance and regulatory, either ups or downs. So what you see here is a seven step framework running through some of the classic steps in an innovation process from ideation, deployment of scaling, etc. And this is matched to two other dimensions. In blue, you see the financial dimension. Up there means there's a lot. Down there means there's a gap. And similarly, the red lines or whatever color that you see in your screen is the governance or policy dimension. Same thing here. Up means there's a lot. Down that means there's a gap. And as you can see, we see this is matching probably the value of debt that some of you know, where we see both lack of finance and lack of regulations when it comes to maintenance. We've the seven steps are also catching different types of an innovation. So the yellow bubbles are referring to the life of the product. A lot of these are very technical or physical components. Sorry, the other way around. This is the process through how a product gets launched and maintained. And then you have the operations in blue. And so this was, we wanted to understand how this process applies for the poor, the bottom of the pyramid. And so who is at the bottom of the pyramid? There's two billion people at the bottom. That's a huge number. They can't all be the same. So we try to segmentize this market and the way we could make it sort of disaggregate this huge category was to differentiate between humanitarian poor and emerging. We're not talking about countries because a country can have everything in one in one geographic scope, but we're referring to markets basically consumers. Our results again, go back to our initial questions. We're looking into the social economic factors and the characteristics of products for the three market segments. I won't read through all of this just for you to have later on. But what I can highlight here, for example, is this first and second go hand in hand. You can see the differences between these three segments, humanitarian poor and emerging. You go to the humanitarian sector. This is essentially about emergency response. And because it's an emergency response, it is entirely humanitarian aid driven. So it's not like a company cannot just go in and sell. There's an organization previous to that that you need to penetrate and you need to get access to. If you look at the poor, this is obviously low income markets with low purchasing power. And if you look at the emerging, this is a very fragmented type of markets with very large variations in purchasing power. Now, this goes to how you define your business model. So for the humanitarian sector, there's a huge bureaucracy involved that favors usually established firms with economies of scale. So as a startup, it's very difficult to be able to enter into the humanitarian field. If you go to the poor, there seems to be a sort of an opportunity for temporary access, leasing, renting, short term type of arrangements, whereas as income goes up, then owning products is sort of more viable for those consumers. Then we're moving to the product characteristics. I won't either read all of this. I will just guide you, walk you through a little bit so that you understand the differences between. And let's just take the first one as an example. Within the first step, which is a function step, there's different patterns that we identify. If you look at innovation, this is essentially telling you how to think about innovating depending on these segments. So to innovate for the humanitarian sector, you need to think that this is a risk averse context. It's very top down for developing product. And this in contrast to the poor or emerging, the poor is needs driven, you need NGO assistance, but emerging, there's more of a normal market dynamic, even though the consumer is quite broad. If we look at the second step, assembly, an example here is how producing something for the different markets is also quite different, particularly between the humanitarian and the foreign emerging sectors. So humanitarian, you need to follow agency specific characteristics. There's very little space, very little scope for coming up with something new that doesn't follow prescribed recipes, so to speak. The foreign emerging sectors present similar trace except the poor are obviously much, much basic. And here there's an opportunity to reduce price by reducing packaging, for example, which when you go into the emerging, there's a little bit more scope for creativity in marketing the product. If we look at deployment, for example, the distribution aspect, humanitarian is about getting there soon now, actually yesterday. It's very, very fast. So if you don't have the change, if you don't have the economies of scale, it's very difficult to enter this field. Whereas in the poor and emerging, it's about last mile, you might have some, but you need to ensure that those that are not in the city centres are still able to reach and these populations can do very differently. The difference is that internet face a role in the emerging sector, whereas in the poor, this is still quite limited. Maintenance, I'm getting back. So maintenance is extremely underrepresented in the literature, though what we hear from interviewing you is that this is a critical step. In all the markets, there's a need to reduce maintenance, localise maintenance and make it basically easy. And this is not really, this is quite in contrast with a lot of the innovations that we see that are quite high tech that require a lot of understanding to run and to repair. Off-scaling, if we look at diffusion, it's crucial to have early success adoption rates in humanitarian sectors. If it doesn't work today, it's not, I mean, if it doesn't work early, it's going to be difficult to get it to work later. And when it comes to the poor, there's a lot of dependency on directed policies. And in emerging context, there needs to be some sort of tailored marketing and being aware that there's a huge institutional weakness in both of these two. And then the last step, which is also completely, it's the two last steps. They're also both quite underrepresented in the literature. And this is something, for example, being able to recycle, it's not really accounted for in the humanitarian sector, whereas the poor and emerging is still quite informal, even though in countries like Sweden, that's a business, there's a business area for recycling, that's not there yet in some of these countries. And when it comes to transfer, that has almost no space, not in my slide, nor in the literature, but basically it's not there. There's no, there's, except for the discussions that we've had with you, which is what you find here, there's nothing in the literature about how you move from project to a company, or from pilot to upscaling something in the field. So this is a huge research gap. Very quickly, the key takeaways. Our parallel development process builds on your inputs, on stakeholder inputs, and so we are confident that it shows a little bit more of a realistic picture of how the process of innovating and upscaling can work in poor context. We identify multi-dimensions that not only go from one step to the other, or tells you that there's a value of death, but why is this value of death happening, and what, where do regulatory and financial constraints take place, where in that chain? It accounts for socioeconomic difference between the poor, so the poor is not just 2 billion people, there's huge differences between them that need to be accounted for when designing products. And we also identify a lot of gaps in the literature that are worth following up upon. Maintenance and transfer are two crucial steps that are not well studied, that are not well understood, and they're underfunded. We also need an improved market understanding at the bulk. Initially, this was our starting point. Humanitarian, it is different, this short term or long term. The poor can be rural, can be urban, can be informal. And emerging can be stable and volatile, and all of these things make, play a role for the type of products or needs that you have. So implications for wash, as you can see in the table below, access to water, energy and sanitation is a matter of income. The more income, the more access. It's very simple. There's a disconnect between innovation and users needs and wants, and we've known this for a while, but it continues to be so. And specifically, what we see is that a lot of the innovations are too techy. And just to keep in mind for all of you innovators here that it's easier to start simple than the technified product later on. What our literature review shows and the analysis show is that there is a huge importance of post-employment strategies. So when financing whomever is funding something here, think about post-employment. It's not just to bring the gadget and then hope that things will happen. The post-employment strategies for most companies seem to fail. And lastly, our analysis indicates the need for simple, low-cost end-to-end solutions that have a localization strategy, including possibly a post-employment phase. This is it from us. Thank you so much. Very good. Thank you very much. That was a little bit of that. Now we'll go into experiences and see you. So please, Otto Thien, you could come up here. So we'll just hear a little bit on the experience from off-grid testbeds actually. And there will be three questions asked in this. One is what is your innovation about and how can it help address needs in the humanitarian or development context? Question two, what challenges have you faced when trying to move from one stage to the other in the product development process? And question three, what would help your innovation to reach full-market entry in humanitarian development context? So this is your questions. So we'll listen to first. Okay, A to T, and suddenly in six minutes. Suddenly, fantasy is our product or our system, as we call it. And it has two main focuses, two main goals. That's saving lives by eliminating disease caused in bacteria and wastewater and recycling of valuable nutrients for arable land. That's the two main goals. And we do that with a system that we, as I said, calls under C. And it is a modular scalable treatment system for wastewater. And when I talk about wastewater, I can, it can be point waste. It can be sludge from an already existing treatment plot. We are treating that with a very, very lower energy technique. And we are not using any chemicals. We are only using a special developed aerator. We can design this system for fuel battery, black water, or sludge, or a mix of those. We can scale it to, well, it's an economic question, actually. But from thousands, thousands of people and uplands, people need more and more economic. We can very easily adapt it to local conditions. And the outcome of the system is a fully sanitized liquid with all the valuable nutrients preserved. And that is a liquid like that coffee or cappola. It's the same. And we call that as a bio fertilizers ready for use for arable land. And those nutrients, they can replace nowadays very expensive import mineral fertilizers. We have already in Sweden two existing clocks. One has been running from nine to nine days. The other is running, has been running from 2012. And we have had all full access to those during our development phase. What we have been doing is we have further developed the aeration technique to make it more efficient and more energy saving. So we started with our stock is very easy, because we already had an order from a paying customer. And that solved a lot of our development costs, of course. We have a pilot running in Bolivia since 2019. And our challenge in the international market is that this system always becomes a part of the infrastructure, which includes a lot of political decisions. So we have very, very long lead times. We have also seen corruption risks and financial issues. Question number three was what would happen? What we have discovered is what we cannot detect is a change of value in human life. That would be a very good help. And also the value of natural resources. But I think that's another workshop. What helped us in Bolivia was a very, very good contact with each embassy, sorting out all local conditions, regulations in an important context and financing. Contacts with local politicians and these decision-making takers. We found a reliable local partner, in this case the customer, taking care of the building process and so on. And number four, the relevant countries are dependent on economic aid. And we have not come to any country so far that is willing to take a little less than cost. Your summer was very, very good. Yeah, thank you so much. Okay, Maria, please come up. And do you have the remote there? Or have you been my sidekick? Have you been able to see to the blocking room? Already? You flushed water and you probably washed your hands and we take that for granted that we have water. I work for a company called Corex of Sweden and we have invention. Nature, we're actually nature authority invented, but we have found a way of cleaning wastewater and reuse it. Also in Sweden we have areas where the water is running out, the groundwater is, so you cannot water your own, you cannot water your boat or whatnot. So also in Sweden we have regions where we lack water. We don't like the long infrastructure of piping and huge pumps to pump wastewater into central cleaning stations and you have to buy the nutrition to transport it back out to your land to fertilize your crops and whatever. So the invention in this case is to have a compact unit, totally biological. We have microbes and protozoms and whatnot to clean the wastewater because wastewater is normally cellulose and proteins and that's what we eat and out comes the clean water. We also have plans of course to take care of the nutrition like phosphor and other part of nutrition and then you can reuse the water to water your lawn or your crops that you have. So already in Sweden this is for example in the occupant of where the infrastructure is impossible. It's a great thing. But we see when we come abroad of course there is a greater need of decentralized wastewater treatment for humanitarian or diseases and whatnot. So have this possibility to reuse water and clean and have it decentralized so you don't have to have an infrastructure for wastewater. Well this is the normal concept what we have in a high industrial plants. We have the linear using of water and that's what we see today. We take it for granted. We have it in the toilet. We have it in our washing rooms and we just flush it out and we transport a lot of water and nutrition back and forth. What we work we have invented a compact making a copy of how nature works and by that we can reuse the water and use the nutrition instead of just flushing it out. So we have a circular system and this is a very good example when we have a biophilic internet picture. Aquatic also growth for crops and we use the sewage again for irrigation. We have solar energy and take care of the rainwater. So we have a circular system that can be really decentralized to small villages but also to larger villages and small cities. So this is how it works. I'm not sure but this is a copy of the small footage that wastewater comes in and it goes in a particular very specific and it's self-holding so you don't need any technician to work with it. And we have microbes and called the source and it's pumped over then where we have a high rain on the water and you have plants because plants can take care of the that. Formals and also that's we see that when it's released into the nature you get these fish with free eyes and what not. Here you take care of everything inside the unit itself. So yeah we have a test bed in South Africa to mention one we have the Venda where they have students it's 1200 students 1200 students so we have upscale the system. So our challenge is through this process was to buy contractors and maintain even though it's very simple maintenance I mean it's a pump and it's plants and nature is everywhere so you don't need a lot of education or the unit and the maintenance itself. It's more that you need to understand and teach them not to put in things that are not biological for example we found in the students a lot of condoms and they are not biological. So you need to train them that was very tricky because the behavior of using water is different from in Sweden. In Sweden we take showers and we take everything for granted but there it's more concentrated we need to adjust the microbes and the design of the tanks because the waste is more concentrated but mostly it comes to culture and what you put into your sewage. And for us we have tanks that are two meters high and two meters in diameters you see them to the right there I think that is a future problem actually. But we need a global footprint to produce them because transporting empty tanks is just no one will pay for that so global footprint for production and of course local partners to to be able to actually train the contractors what's important and how this works even though it's very simple people think also here in Sweden how can okay plants and it's not so it's a mental change that needs to be done to use no chemicals to reuse the water I know Prips try to make beer out of wastewater I'm not sure if you try that I don't think we are ready yet but we can actually with our co-partners that are making the special filter afterwards create drinking water out of wastewater. We see in Gothenburg they have a project where they reuse the grain water the shower so everything that we can use the water too the the quality out of tree will accept is that bathing quality what you have in your lake where you put your children and where you bathe for the summer so that's the quality of the water out then we can design it and financing I would say again we are a very small company but we with a great product from what I see we can make a container solution for catastrophic areas you can make because nature is everywhere and the water where it exists we can treat it and the sun is there and the solar power is there but the money isn't there yeah that's all I'm thinking about yeah thank you I would say we'll have hopefully more questions and answers later on now we'll try to bring in one of our online users which is Gerard from Lebanon Gerard are you with us I can say then you are there very good yes okay I am Gerard from Muruna Lebanon I'm here to talk to you about the BioMap IoT monitoring system it's a platform for remotely monitoring and operating of wastewater treatment system who uses multiple kinds of IoT sensors IoT enabled sensors connected to a PLC and sending all the data through a web portal to a cloud-based data collection system the main feature of the system is is actually controlling the batch of wastewater entering into the system so the IoT helps in monitoring the incoming flow that is in the holding tank and over 24 hours a day it's helping pouring the wastewater into the system in a manner that it would be smooth and eliminate the peak hours in the morning and in the evening this is one part the other parts we use such as the TDS, pH sensors and temperature sensors also overflow sensors to monitor all the pumps and the quality of the wastewater and to have an early alarm in case of any problem that will occur on the other hand also we we do register all the outflow of the system so we know exactly how much cubic meters per day or month or over a year we had passed through that system and reused for irrigation or whatever can we go to the next slide please also the IoT system helps in lowering the reducing the energy usage by by controlling the air pumps based on the needs of the wastewater by using dissolved oxygen sensors it also improves the efficiency and operation it needs less manpower on the sites to observe the the functionality of the system now for the second question we did have a few problems due to COVID-19 we were faced with multiple lockdowns that affected our ability to work on sites during the development phase also there was a short in the equipment supply and the sensors used by the system now in now by nature testing with wastewater treatment system takes time to evaluate the needs of a specific sensor or method IoT data observation on wastewater treatment takes few weeks to see if a sensor or method is collecting data is valuable to the system or must be changed using expensive industrial grade sensors increase uh exponentially the system cost it was a real challenge to cut down to the most necessary sensors to get working system uh to get the workings the huge amount of data collected and what to be displayed to the end user in a way to understand the system operational criteria those was the most challenges that we faced in the in the development phase of the can you please go to the next slide now what would help in the in the future is what we are dealing actually now try to lower the cost of such systems to be available widely such a way that fit the decentralized wastewater treatment so you don't want to to have the IoT cost as the same cost as the system trying to analyze the data gathered from the sensor this is needed to figure out which data is useful and how to use it to design a more effective system uh it need to be able to handle multiple systems at the same time on the same point platform an easy way to add or delete features sensors models those features to be developed uh the future uh Muruna already installed multiple IoT Biomewap for wastewater treatment stations installed in formal settlement financed by UNICEF UNICEF have big interest in our IoT development for Biomewap and wants to equip all the wastewater treatment stations with with such system but due to the cut in budget for Lebanon we didn't get to install any this year uh clients may may also have hundreds system to be monitored and grouped by region with user access and privileges those those things need to be also developed and worked on the next phase lake of financial support Lebanon to proceed to proceed further with the development uh this is one of the this is one of the biggest challenge also and pushing pushing forward with this project thank you all right thank you i think we got the message here that you have been working with uh internet or seen protocol here to be able to remotely monitor uh the different um uh sanitation systems on site on different places in Lebanon and and that has been a good job so that now you can very uh control everything from one monitoring system thank you big hand for those now please john tell us on how it has been working for you with their pure biosynthesis hey hi everyone my name is john myberg i'm the founder of tbs generation which you're supposed to be called pure biosynthesis but we we did a little bit our product is called unit um we have been developing this for four and a half years now the company's actually seven years old and the story goes even further back okay oh basically what we have been developing is this thing from this high and this summarizes really well using only air as a raw material and locally produced electricity we can clean and disinfect water air and materials for 10 plus years that's the lifespan of one product before these recycles so it's basically a robust high quality ozone generator but it's comparing with a conventional ozone generation technology it's it's adapted for those humid and harsh environments like on the steam outdoor humidity is our main thing so um basically we purified with ozone where others cannot with where other ozone companies cannot or where it has not been economically or practically viable to do it so so just to give you an example um with two cases like that we can carry out our certification technology in one case and in the other case you can carry out the off-grid energy supply we're now creating um power supply so with solar panels and these two cases we can operate anywhere um and what do we do it's many things but in this context in this working role we've been developing the crisis catastrophe uh societal redundancy thing which is basically drinking water purification in those um exposed areas so three of those idc times we can disinfect per day with one unit or actually at least two and a half but this gives you an example of how much that is about the drinking water to thousand people it can drink two and a half liters each um does this work yes um here's an example where we have disinfected sewage water we did this together with maria yeah um so we had a dirty sewage water with uh and what's that called the water yeah uh so this should be a little bit bigger but it's like five figures of like equally intestinal intercox five figures really high microbial contamination and after our treatment at the regular flow of the sewage water system it was two figures it was actually down to 10 equally 69 of the others and this is approved swimming water quality um another thing we did during the project these two years was the disinfect case like the vessels in which you have water or whatever food stuff and we had one really contaminated with lots of um yeah geese sewage water mold stuff and after seven minutes of flowing our gas through this cake it was non-detectable so it works yes um the challenges we've been facing now to during these years it's been mostly product development technical stuff so it's a lot and i don't need to go into all this but like finding a solution to high voltage fields in this thing e dissipation um how can we make it shock absorbing how it's it's a lot of technical stuff and engineering behind it um and more market related is basically that we do both sewn treatment but it's more than that because we use june there we can tolerate june there and also we get the benefits from using june there which is an even stronger oxidation and disinfection properties so we need actually to teach the the market about it because they otherwise they compare with just general old technology and they also have their ideas of how do you do it with old technology usually it's a bit uh cumbersome so to speak you have to have dry clean air you have to have a little industrial environment almost and most people that have been working with awesome technology says that how does this work out there so we have to really teach them that this is simple you can use only this it's really robust intolerant everything it's foolproof so finding the early adopters adopters for the technology also one thing is the uh what we face generally as a company it's the biosciel products regulation which will be implemented in europe so for this context mostly it's the we will work outside of europe but anyway it's it's something we need to and we have started dealing with uh i don't know how one minute okay so so what will help us right now is now after this many years we have a product so we need to put them out there on the field do those pilot cases which we have started and duplicate them like have one successful case that we can duplicate and show start showing the world um optimizing simplities but one thing we're doing all the time um also start having more reliable local partners where we want to work and where we want to sell and this is for a long shot or not a long shot but a long term investment to start selling to humanitarian organization we're starting preparing for it i have the communication about it people involved but it will be maybe two three up to 10 years from now um but we prepare for it so that's that's it thank you yeah okay we'll now go into the last test that we have had and that is actually a development within Sweden actually so please roll Q1 are you with us yes skåne is calling can you hear me yes skåne is calling very good please tell us about your development thank you very much my name is Rolf Johan Ingesson and i am the CEO of Ingesson Water and during this stage of the project Ingesson Water has mainly focused on testing and validating both the core innovation called millennium desalination device which is a single unit of the water purification system and the off-grid container solution called water in a box when it comes to the single unit of the innovation there's a few unique aspects of the machine that i would like to point out to you today above all and perhaps the most unique thing about innovation is that it can both desalinate and purify water from bacteria in the same machine therefore there is no need for different solutions to do one or the other process this gives our innovation clear advantages over many products on the market today unlike some other solutions on the market we don't purify water with filters membranes for some sort of chemical treatment we produce clean drinking water in a very sustainable and environmentally friendly way sustainable as we use titanium to guarantee long lifespan despite the harsh environments the machine will encounter environmentally friendly as we don't have any water loss in the process of making clean drinkable water an important aspect when it comes to developing markets and humanitarian situation is that it must be easy to perform service when necessary we have taken this into account in to the design of the innovation and many of the machine parts are stock products that are easy to replace if necessary beyond that the machine is also stipulated in the pattern to be both compact mobile and scalable when needed when it comes to addressing the needs in humanitarian context to countries in development the container solution what in the box is the most suitable with the possibility to produce clean water 24-7 just from almost any renewable energy source in the most environmentally friendly way the container is a turnkey ready option that includes everything that is needed to be fully operational on drop down after eight hours since this is a container concept it's both mobile and reconfigurable after a completed assignment and the water in the box concept was validated and tested during the second phase of the project in Eskilstuna wetland with approved lab results on water samples okay stand you can take the next slide okay you have done that and every single phase presented in this picture has of course its own challenges and above all that we have of course the pandemic and the atrocious world that has affected all of us in one way or another besides that there is basically three areas that have complicated the progress more than others during our years of development we have worked with many manufacturers since we have a product that is made in titanium to withstand aggressive environmental conditions the number of manufacturers is significantly reduced on the swedish market we have scanned the market for manufacturer that is qualified to work with titanium material and it is complicated process and requires special expertise when it comes to for example welding another obstacle has been finding manufacturers who have the possibility to expand their operation in the event that a serial production becomes relevant they may be able to participate in the developing of the prototype and even perhaps manufacture the first machine but then scaling up presents challenges and risk that not all manufacturers are prepared to take the last obstacle that i would like to point out is the same i think for the most of the companies in the process of taking an innovation to a commercial product and that is finding the funds it is a harsh reality that can break anyone if you don't have the goal clear the stamina and willingness to give 100 percent having said that i must say that the collaboration with rice and this project has provided invaluable knowledge and experience that we would take with us in our continued work and perhaps the last slide and to make it simple for Ingersong Water to enter the next phase and to successfully reach the market in question it is of importance to find partners in progress we have identified three main criteria for that partnership and that is companies that we can grow a long-term term partnership with has the financial strength and finally it has the experience and international presence with these three criteria i think that we could have a great chance of entering these markets and if i could finally just say this i would like to take the opportunity to thank each and everyone that has been involved in this project but especially steam who helped us a lot navigating through the innovation process up to today thank you very much and for every participant in this project i say good luck in your future work and hopefully we will meet in some way in the future that was my contribution today thank you so we are going to Q&A at the same time as of course we are also behind so are there any questions that you would like to raise um are we um are there any from the online nothing from the chart yet no i think we can yes job to also fantastic innovators when it comes to implementation you have been in test bed position you actually was your counterpart during the test bed part you did you x address in the bottom cuba south africa from my side i we have a co-partner in south africa that's called us so they have this connection with the school project it would be hard to write from sweden directly with the counterpart so to find this specific project uh it has to go to this local company super thank you so the question was what kind of partners you have and um and there was there has been partners in all of these test beds actually um yeah these have been a long progress yes how much have you invested in this project I would say that I could could respond on that is that the budgets for the for for those projects have been something between half a million to a million on those test beds projects yeah okay I think we uh take a break here also for you guys of the online and we'll we'll come back in like five minutes after three to continue all right please have coffee all right thank you very much and welcome back to the meeting we are now going in for next session and that is actually one of the main ingredients of this project we are now moving into our part of the please please sit down so we can continue the workshop seminar here I'm very happy to see that everybody is having a good um interacting time but now we are coming into an um session where we look on how they've been developed a tool for matchmaking uh what we have seen in the last session was um what kind of concrete uh practical innovations that I've been doing the project but now we are looking at how can innovators uh match their products with the worldwide web basically with that with the procurement uh with all the projects that are out there in in the world and for that we have invited uh Thomas Sranberg from this company parametric uh who has developed uh an artificial intelligence um tool uh that is actually assisting innovators and all kinds of products to match with with the need out there Thomas are you with us I'm with you can you hear me oh yes now we hear you good perfect um yes so should I start please okay good I'm gonna keep my camera off because my internet is quite flaky so uh so my name is Thomas and I'm the CEO of parametric uh and we are a software company based in Lund um and we have developed this tool um that we well the the name right now is parallel ink and the reason for that is because the tool is based on something that is called linked data um and I'm not sure how many here that knows what linked data is but just to summarize it quite quickly uh it's open source data that exists on the web and it's uh it consists of a code so it has like a code standard and each code also has a title or a description and a summary text to it and why it's called linked data is because all of these code systems are potentially linked together so if you add if you get if you connect to a database that that contains one or several of these code systems you can get access to all the data that that these codes are associated with and just to give an example the cpv code standard is like one coding system uh and the cpv codes that contains a lot of information about procurements and then you have the sni code standard which contains a lot of information about uh company companies company information basically excuse me yes excuse me i just wanted to check with you if we are on the right slide and you tell me when i should change slide you can keep this slide i'll tell you when to change it or i'm i'm actually gonna i i didn't plan to show the uh my screen um and demo of the tool but i think i'm gonna do that anyway just to give you a glimpse how it looks like in in reality but we at the moment we really stick to the power point at the moment we do that yes uh global goals also has their own uh like coding system uh and if you up if we if we can access uh these type of uh codes systems we can get informations through sni codes about companies uh and that includes like every company in sweden for example uh and if we have the cpv codes we can also connect that to the procurements globally uh and if we have the global gold codes we can see how many global gold gold uh global goals that are uh fulfilled by each company uh etc uh so we have created uh we have used linked data with uh text analysis and our ai to create a tool where we can do like matchmaking and optimization so paralleling for example uh just to summarize it quite quickly it's supposed to be like a very easy to use point and click intuitive tool that is scalable and that can be used to analyze and optimize the commercialization of projects or products and we use these open source code to text standards and link data um to do this um and the thing is that uh this has the potential to uh significantly both improve but for for most simplify uh some aspects of business development so for example what we're doing now is to create um uh a tool that you can use to optimize and optimize uh very time-consuming and resource demanding processes um such as like matchmaking i'm going to show you how it looks like so um this is like the so when you go to the tool i'm going to show you it soon this is like basically what you see you get a login page you add some information about your company uh etc so now you can change slide i think and what the first version of parallel link is doing at the moment is uh it goes through a few steps so what you do as a product owner or a company is to add some information about your company and about your product what's what challenges that are out there and the solutions you your product is uh bringing and the parallel link at this moment it takes all of this and analyzes it so everything that you put in in text it analyzes and the first thing that it does is to match it with global goals so you can see immediately okay so the information that i have input it now reaches these goals and then you can go into each global goal and see what sub-goals that you reach and if you think that you reach more than the ones that the tool suggests you can add them to your description automatically with one click the second thing that happens is that it generates information that can be relevant to in this case procurement so you might want to add this type of information and this type of information and it helps you like to add that to the description in a fast way and then when you're done with that process it updates the information you put in with with these new dimensions of information and then it suggests ongoing procurement notices that you can apply for we also have a system that we are tweaking right now where you can get an estimate about the likelihood how likely is it that you can win this based on the information that you have put in but i'm thinking i'm going to show you just quickly the tool uh so this is basically basically what it looks like so you want to validate the solution we call it here and then you have all the different uh let's see where it goes yeah it's very it's very small it's a very small text the fonts are difficult to see but you can just look at the screen and we can see the results uh exactly um yeah so so basically just to add a bunch of information here about the challenge and the problem and the target group and the outcome and you also can add if it's like a prototype or if it's an ID or a concept or a product and as you can see here this is a desolination company in Lund called Afsalt i just went to their website and i copy and paste that just a little bit of information here so nothing much um and what it does is if i go to the next step here it analyzes this uh results here so then i get an analysis based on the global goals which is one of the coding system that is included now in this solution and you can see it doesn't reach many goals because it's about desolinating water but you can see that when it comes to affordable and clean energy and clean water and sanitation it reaches a few goals so then i can go in here and see okay so what goal did it reach here when it reached this one uh well i also think it might have potential to reach this one then i can add it and it will update um and use that when searching for procurement matching and then i might go in here and see okay so what water goals did i reach well i reached these two but i also think that this might be relevant then i can add that maybe these two sure uh and when i when i'm done with that i can close down here um and it will also suggest um cpv codes that might be relevant for me so if i see here well drinking water yeah that should be there um so then i can add i can search here for drink for example and the thing is that if i click here then it will add the cpv code drinking water but you don't have to stand up in europe for procurements yes but you don't have to remember what code it was or what it's about you just need to understand the the like the very basic concept here so then it will add the whole cpv code to the the match the search go ahead and here you can add some more information that is maybe more commercial so uh it seems like it matches price and serviceability well but i also think it's a very easy to use thing so i want to add that as like a feature and then it updates the whole information that you put in with these added information and starts to go through the databases of developmental projects that you can apply for so if i go in here it goes in here and i can apply for this maybe if it seems reasonable uh and then i can also see what procurements that are uh relevant and i can also get this is not really functional but now is still building it but you can get more specific procurements here and then you also get the relevant score okay so how likely is it that how relevant is my description to this actual specific procurement notice and you want this to be as high as possible so that's basically how it how it works that's a question i just want to have a clarifying there you get up a result of the procurements and how many procurements is there to analyze during the worldwide web i think uh nicholas is better to better equip to answer that question between 10 in the cpd certification between 10 and 20 000 procurement for the european any development and using the un sbcs both which are um something you and my relatives another 10 15 at this point the system can find any procurement that is published in european union in any language in for the european union you can get you can match against the hargarian procurement and get in such some kind of probability of winning exactly and now it's kind of for this project built up to look for and match with procurements but it can be scaled to almost any possible application so we are talking with large companies that want to automatize the matchmaking between series and job this job applications with job descriptions because that is mostly done manually now but you can automatize that entire uh thing and we also are also discussing with some members here of the the swash and grow team about matching projects and products with suppliers local suppliers so for example if you want to build something in kirna you can find suppliers and maintenance and service in like uh just a few just a few clicks just take my last slide there 69 and i will just see what if i want to add something before we go on is this it last slide go the other way this one um exactly and um we're also involved in this um this other project where we can match startups and their innovations with like large corporations and partners and you can match it with financing opportunities etc so there's a lot of potential that we are exploring now and i'm gonna leave my email address in the chat and if anyone has an idea or wants to talk to me and have a meeting personally after this uh doesn't have to be today but can be next week or whenever there's time just drop me an email and we can set up a one to one meeting okay thank you thanks are there any questions from the audience okay um from online users are there any questions there to thomas that's fine so the whole idea of this tool is actually to matchmake your innovation with the market and instead of googling you can now find the requirements that are actually in there applaud for thomas yay okay christina so now we'll go into to see how malmy university has been able to develop this area on your own uh i'm pristine of the again as i said before and i'm an associate professor actually in materials engineering uh and i'm fond of hydrogen embrittlement at an optimistic level so you can have different uh you can have a lot of things within you and but i have really often mission to try to change or develop the skills and also the perspectives for engineers to be able to contribute better in modern world maybe so in the fortune row we our task was to develop a course module on innovation design for humanitarian needs international development cooperation and this this course module is actually we had two courses from the beginning but not that the advantage or not that good come from my perspective and then we got this chance to really try to improve it so very happy for that and we call the courses or the two parts global product development you have to call something something uh so this is a global product development it's both theory and practice so this is university course at bachelor what we we want to have different students you don't just want to have one program with one course so we try to find students from many different disciplines and we actually get that so at the moment we have mechanical engineering materials engineering mobile IT construction project development and design and one master student from IT also advised them and we have had people from industry actually also it's open to other ones online so what do we do we try to make the students understand poverty and this importance of context of outcomes and so that but let's stop there so multi-disciplinary students have already said that but the teachers of course if you have this kind of course you need to have very many different experts from different disciplines but also input from from you guys for example so we have a lot of guest lectures and that's really good for the students or we appreciate it and it helps them in the development uh so um Nicholas is one of the teachers our best feature yeah and what do we do except for theory and so then they we try to give them methods and tools how to to work in a more thought-through way with methods and also with the tool so that's uh Thomas just talked about so last year we tried one version of it but they I think mostly the students try to find their project ideas and that's then where the global goes so it was like a test for parliamentary as well so this was uh and we really enjoyed that and now we have a new version so and part two court was started yeah the 7th of november and then use that for this as a tool to write the course uh and as I mentioned before swatching graph has really made a difference for us with the awesome even from my all the increase in my knowledge because I'm as you understand I'm not an expert at all I'm just I just have some kind of mission because I know engineering students because I was an engineer myself yeah let's take another one so uh maybe we could call it learning outcomes but what do we want the students some I just I can't just mention a few things here I was drawn for an hour or two but uh important thing is to make them give them tools I'm standing so so they can bridge the gap between technical and social science aspects by doing analysis not just thinking out of the blue but a little more systematic and then apply these things or and show that they can do that and they actually do in a project so they have then they work with development corporation for some wash solution and we have in we have to have the example at some places in east Africa so point and then they have to show that and they manage quite well if if you think of how to start very wonderful the students development and they also get to use to benefit from having a lot of different partners experts to to try to solve their their projects or try to make a good project where they come up with a concept or maybe even further so so they learn how that it's important to work not with people that are like themselves and improve that and they also learn how to use digital tools I'll see the the good thing with that and now it is when we start with latest version of other leach so going to be very interesting to see how they actually can use that and also a few feedbacks from us so yeah I've probably touched a lot of these things already but we had from just doing developing these courses here in these courses a lot of things has happened that is beneficial um let's start with uh yeah the number of students just keeping increasing so now I'm starting to thinking of the first part I maybe have to limit it because I started at the beginning so that's very nice to see so it feels like that's the right kind of course um it helps uh I'm talking everywhere in the university with everyone try to make them understand what we're doing and engage them and also people outside and Nicholas is also very so that has also have have more discussions around where the role of engineers and his kind of confidence also for sustainable development in general and not just the former social science perspective yeah and I said that we test the tool um one great thing that we did together with some partners here and it's that we came up with an idea for a master program so two year master uh and we've set an application we have support to continue to develop it to KK Foundation and Swedish yeah what's it called that you can get money from it and unfortunately we haven't already a multi-disciplinary research group or or really or at least um showing that this is really plausible that we will get that so otherwise they were very very positive about the idea i'm trying to get these kind of courses must exist that was really great so it's like research is the key now and and collaboration yes uh please nicole who's in this group also from the university he's one of the teachers and like i'm agreement i talked a lot with regarding this master program but we and others it's so it's amazing when we ask for a guest lecture from you guys who said yes of course and so it's also very very nice to be in swishing row uh so that is some of the direct outcomes uh indirectly we are actually getting the students to start to do their thesis uh work in this field it's a bit hard because we need to have partners so it's not something but they really want to do with that and we try to facilitate for them so that's one more courses more course ideas or or both for the future of master program but also other things you're thinking about yeah and the collaboration with senior and will continue to collaborate with this and i think this might also slide yes so because we have this network and also in university and outside we feel that we can actually develop new relevant courses so this has really helped us to to get because these two courses they're really good we have understood that they're really good so now we have some muscles to continue and what but what we want to do is they're good i think we'd like to know how relevant they are for professionals so both for what kind of students what kind of students do you want and how could we help you in your development or so that's something we would like to continue with but um yes i see that's my time is out i didn't see that so uh yeah so i'll stop there uh and a lot of questions i want a lot of feedback and questions yes thank you what are we doing in the back of the drawing now we know that i think we're telling you probably that we're probably that's a close question this is an open course for all engineering students yeah so that's the thing we focus on engineers because in social science that's quite a lot of things really okay so and if we have to let our children and other friends uh if you're not with students or yes you know they do universities and you'd like to book out yes absolutely that's really our goal are you happy really uh no okay we have had we have international students in the form of this call they're called erasmus students so exchange students they're always uh we have had quite a lot of them in these courses so because that could have a bit of reality from the country but yeah we have a wonderful thing in manma because it's such an international city so a lot of the students come right there by relevant backgrounds so it's very it's a very multi-national um i myself been there as well lecturing so it's it's an ongoing course you can just register at the moment thank you Christina so that's great so let's now look into next and that is uh the online star samshaba from Swedish international uh swedish incubation science parks are you with us sasa yes i am and hopefully hopefully you can see me as well very soon almost we can see we we can't see the in this room but i think the online speakers can see you all right so um you just tell me when i change um the slide yes super good thank you so much and uh and i wish that i was with you uh but unfortunately do a project in israel actually i need to to yeah i couldn't be in stock on for this that matter uh thank you so much uh and this international strategy that we have created thanks to swash and grow as well uh is connected to all our members uh and in uh in the swedish innovate or part of the swedish innovation ecosystem so both incubators and science parks and of course with a focus on uh their companies so it's startups and scale ups we can take the next slide so this is the first time we did it we do it so systematically so strategically uh it's for us as well in say swedish incubators and science parks as a member organization uh it's about to understand what is the need of working internationally or of as well is it important to work internationally and if it is a yes on that what should we do what what is the issues or the challenges that the startups and scale ups are facing as well as the our members the incubators and science parks as is facing as well so we have this is the first time we have done it we have an ambition to do it uh annually but for for now we're going to do it by annually but in the in in the future annually we can take the next slide so we have about 60 plus 63 member organizations it's both incubators and science parks in sweden and we had a goal of getting a response of 75 to get like a more legitimate like answer or a framing that that we know that we have enough data so we know what decisions to take on we got we got a response of 85 percent and we did 19 deep interviews and and and what is needed what's the challenges or is it important to go internationally we can take the next slide so just to give you as well the type of organization that are in our member organizations swedish incubators and science parks uh it's it's incubators uh that works with early stage startups i would say early stage and a little bit late stage with focusing on scaling and then we have the science parks that are more focusing on SMEs and scale ups and we have some of these organizations some of the members that actually have a incubator in house as well so it's both incubator and a science park we can take the next slide and one crucial question for us if they are helping their startups and scale ups to reach international markets and if yes uh in what amount so we have 81 percent of our members that have uh are supporting in different ways to take their their their companies internationally about 30 percent want to do it will do it but not right now and about six percent five point seven that have no they don't have that intention and it's very the one that answered that are very close to uh outside medtech and tto so technology transfer offices uh that work in super early stage we can take the next slide and if yes so what is needed to do well how do they or how do they want to support the the startups or the company so one very important area or i as you see four very important areas but one of them is to understand or have an introduction to support or or soft landing programs that there is a lot in different countries uh two things that i see as well as crucial is of course introduction or identification of potential customers industrial customers uh this is something that we as well work with uh this is crucial also for going internationally also introduction to potential investors was very highlighted uh as well as market entry program we don't do market entry program but we know that business we business we don't for example do that that type of activities so this is the four areas that were interesting but we see as well like competitive analysis is important research uh finding potential partners is important and other type of activities we can take the next slide we connected this as well i think we can go to the next slide as well for that thank you so i couldn't fit this in one slide so we have also well connected this to uh the the smart specializing that is in in in sweden it's a work that had been done by the regions our members have been working with that because it's as we got the information from our uh partners uh sorry our members that it's not always about taking companies internationally but they work as well with taking international companies to sweden to make sweden more attractive uh and and more innovative for sure and of course creating job in the end we can take the next slide i had one other slide i think it's disappeared somewhere but just one thing regarding uh the initiative that we do like when when they are supporting the companies because i have some slides of which come countries they are prioritizing uh so like for example us germany is very high level but we see as well like india are very important uh south africa or africa i would say in specific countries in that uk canada for example but what they said even if they do programs for a specific country i can send you of course the slide they always focus if a if a company of uh in their like accelerator have uh are getting a deal in spain they will try to support them in that country even if they are not focusing on that country so they work very need-based when it comes to the the startup scale up needs and just to summarize this it's of course much more in detail the last picture uh the key focus activities that we see is that we need to work for example with uh i saw it mention be mentioned the matchmaking we see we do a lot and ignite speeding creating tailored meetings uh to create commercial pilots or projects between corporate municipalities and startups as well as strategic collaborations is important like uh incubator to incubator internationally to do a benchmark or learning peer reviews together as well as working with talent interaction have been very very specific it's a big need as well like working with the government on this issue as well as and time to traction is divided into areas so it's both talent as individuals but also commercial so more of of establishing startup scale ups or corporates in sweden and we have some success cases for example id on science park and and link shopping for example and other members that are doing that really well i'll just stand there there's a lot of other activities that we have in this this game plan i see that the time is running out but i would be happy of course to to present or to send you the the more specific uh international strategy that we have created thank you sasa i just want to ask you you're working quite early with uh with in the innovation development cycle isn't it i mean your your science parks have quite early startups that's it that's the incubator the science the science parks works uh more with late stage i would say more scale up more sms good so you have found out um so there are if you're a new startup you get in touch with one of your science parks and you will work on your you will assist in the internationalization and export yeah of course and we have done some actually this this international strategy have now initiated a lot of both international matchmaking but also delegations where we do learning sessions between incubators to incubators or science parks to science parks this is what we're going to do in israel bringing corporates startup scalabs investors and incubators to to israel for a three-day program that's going to happen next week so we see that that will that will happen in germany france south korea brazil canada for sure that's guaranteed for next year from our our side and of course yeah yeah great thank you thank you uh any we will have questions also in the end uh if there are anything to raise here otherwise uh i think we'll move on and uh listen to uh wind water who has been uh part of the game as well uh you've done a couple of events uh ulof are you with us i'm here and hopefully you can hear me as well very welcome thank you so much uh great listening to sasa earlier uh so we do in wind we do a little bit of similar but a little bit in a different way uh so wind uh what is it uh in this case it's mostly wind water uh that's represented uh we see ourselves as a marketplace for innovations and we have currently three such market places running and a fourth is still waiting to be fully fully operational but the ones that's running are wind water that has is actually celebrating its its 10 year anniversary 10 year anniversary this year we have wind guard that has been running for some four years wind energy is some three four years old and as i mentioned wind food is still still waiting to be fully launched uh so what is an innovation marketplace you may ask yourself um well it's uh if you have an idea if you have a startup if you want to change something uh if you're coming with something new this is the place to come to uh and to present to others uh that may help you uh with some feedback on your ideas and this goes um often the companies that we meet the startups that we meet our early stage in the beginning and they need some some feedback on their ideas um which they will get and then they will hopefully stay with us for quite a while and they will improve and then they will also get some help with marketing and and even export in the long run uh so why would we do it um well and we want to speed up the uh the uh time it takes for a company to make impact and we want to do that of course to create a more sustainable future and we do it by very actively connecting people and we do that very physically now again with the physical meetings uh we have been there for a couple of years now doing it online which works so so i would say uh we've done the best of it but still it's so much better when you can meet face-to-face which brings me to uh my my excuses for not joining you live today um and this way we hope to bring some very disruptive solutions to the global market thank you next slide so who are our members most of the members are actually innovation companies small startups and some of them are not so small anymore as i mentioned earlier wind water has been active for 10 years and two of the companies actually that presented on the first meeting 10 years ago are still still active innovation companies in wind water and um let's say that they are moving on different faces and some move faster some move a little bit slower and for some the road is quite straight for some it's windling so to say but among those innovation companies and among the the partners the large partners that are also active in the network we have at the moment 15 countries represented so it's not just the swedish network we have european members we have some some us members and we also actually have africa represented in this network next slide please and so as we see it we see the world we're very black and white the large partners that are the main contributors to what we do also economically we see them as representing the market to the need for new solutions this is not always the case sometimes they also come with them come up with a lot of good innovations actually next night please and and those larger partners are the ones that are shown on this at least quite updated slide i don't see any anyone that shouldn't be there specifically at the moment at least there are a few missing though which i won't mention at the moment well and the innovation companies as i said black and white they're the providers of solutions sometimes they are also could also be the customers actually and they could also sometimes sell to each other one providing a part of the solution for another one next slide please so some few keys to the windmobile we always want to have a business focus in what we do do it's mostly this is about finding business opportunities sometimes we can do projects we can do some public financing but it should should be with the aim of a business a future business and can take two slides forward and what what what we see is very important is that the entrepreneurs meet potential customers very early sometimes the entrepreneurs come to products that they think are good for a specific market of specific type of customer and it just turns out that those customers are not that interested and they just have to turn to to someone else instead and to get that feedback you cannot get that feedback early enough next slide please we see ourselves as a complement to the traditional innovation system with the incubators the different kinds of startup support and finance support that we have that for example the organizations in sys provide and where we can bring a little bit of different angle to help help startups to the next level so i already mentioned the wind meetings this is our toolbox of things that we do things that we can work with the wind meetings at the moment physical next meeting is actually on the 27th of october it will be in malmö you can also join online and i could send also actually an invite for that meeting afterwards unless you haven't got the invite already this meeting will be extra international we have invited some of the largest actually water utilities in europe will represent such as aqualia and seven trend and that's how we will try to go forward to do the meetings both at the live version but also webcast them in an online version just to get into the project here what what kind of activities have you done within the project of these two blocks yeah in in the project we have done a full wind meeting with the theme of sporsion growth and also with the companies in sporsion growth presenting at the meeting and at that meeting of course we had the wind wing mingle map unfortunately it was during the pandemic so it was one of the digital events which makes the mingle map a bit different it that's how we in the digital version this we send people out in in breakout rooms but it's not these are planned breakout rooms so we can kind of match people in the breakout rooms and we also done a innovation studio which is kind of a workshop that we did in in connection to one of our other meetings that was on the theme of the sporsion growth project and to the innovation studio we then had the kind of extensions going into an innovation lab and then an innovation consortia which is like actually working together a partnership of startups and established organizations it could be universities it could also be government organizations to come up with the solution future solution of product and mentioning here one of the consortias we have been working with for a long time is the fossil free fire truck in wind guard which is actually being realized at the moment so that's that's my full presentation and you're all very welcome to our meeting in Malmer 27th of October with windwater and more information to come and I will take questions of course yeah we will have questions and answers afterwards but if there is a something in connection to this we understand that wind has done some of the of the meetings I know that John you have been part of it yeah yeah do you get any good connections for develop them developing your product yeah developing and marketing tendrice and yeah yeah networking is always good yeah good good thank you thank you so we have come from the academic through the science parks and the windwater innovation labs and now we're going down to some looking out in the world how can innovation be transferred out and come to the need holders holders please Jürgen if you could just tell us a little bit about electric city uh urban tech sweden a test battery system delivery and scaling okay so I represent electricity a citizen initiative in Malmerby Krastov that's a student district in Stockholm and this is our humble mission remember that we're a citizen initiative like very humble so electricity is the quadruple units so we work with we have about 80 partners members and they're funding our projects um this is the other app so we do we do collaborate with business academia public actors and citizens and that's our boost we actually have a lot of citizens on our side um working on practical projects trying to be climate neutral by 2030 in our city ministry so um we're working with innovations and engagement and we see how Malby Krastov 2.0 as a test for them for energy transportation digitalization and circular economy so we have about 30 projects running yearly and about 11 research projects so we're funded by our members and also through research by my from energy authorities and we know that so forth so we work with knowledge as a carrier for behavior change so the idea is of course not only to work in a climate krastov it's to actually carry these innovations up in the world that's the whole idea so the companies that are coming to us we're setting up practical projects so they can actually test their innovations in a real environment with real people and real money to see if it carries through right and um so we had a lot of matchmaking events um five years ago we brought in Chinese cities and Indian partners and we did send a lot of innovative companies out there in the world it didn't happen that much to be honest they got a great reply and they got you know partners to meet but they were not strong enough so that's why we joined urban tech sweden funded by technique for talking in 2019 with Hans Fiedel left us now he was here an hour ago but she someone went home but anyway so we're working in urban tech sweden it was funded by some partners here it's the S one solution city firms and so forth and we're working with innovative ideas and companies for climate neutral cities that's the whole and urban tech sweden is the project accelerator for swedish business community and construction projects into sharp investment cases and bringing in the ecosystem needed would be we'll want to build a platform that individual innovative companies do not have and take the overall responsibility towards potential customers so we sort of turned the other way around instead of sending the companies out there with the projects home so these companies don't have to travel the world and it's funded and it's financed and it's insured and it's jurisdiction blah blah blah it's easy for innovative companies to actually be out there through our commercial arms which are doing the job that's the whole idea behind urban tech sweden and this is one project governor island in new york city where bill kuhn was it bill kuhn so he wanted to have a global climate center the former mayor of new york right and urban tech sweden is being part of setting the infrastructure plan there are 21 swidge companies there now to see if they can work it out another one is hudson square uh heinz one of the biggest property developer in the world and there's six companies there now to see and then of course this is what we were working in swatching grow and walk down on victoria we'll tell you more about that so that's it thank you very much yeah that's great so that's great uh john will continue here to speak more on urban tech sweden and and how you have been working in the project with uh this haze yeah okay um actually this is a swedish post on the original member in this project i work to get the volcano in a capital riding but i have also happened to be the chairman of swedish so this is the reason why we are coming to play in the project and actually played yeah i will say quite a good part of the project in the certain states so this turned out to be some kind of a proposal for a portal and the possible continuance of the project um so the project when it comes to the fact that it should go into operation it's uh we had a lead in rwanda but it didn't work out unfortunately uh or maybe good for us i don't know but at least we could turn out to be turning towards tansania and this was just find a project opportunity and innovation and then we had in the group we had a slum and uh and uh lower heat that will tell us more about this concept than why it's it's a good example so we tried to find a location with local support potential project opportunity one of the members in swedish is samrik from sybar recycling short form samrik and they are a swedish member they have an ongoing business the waste management of tansania so they were also in a step where they actually for development waste energy because now they have you know raw material i mean waste to go further so they was picked as a counterpart and introduced to them the echo barge echo barge system that you would know more about later as an alternative for this and this was connected through uts urbantex sweden and the project of swash and ground and then it was an echo barge evaluation from s mother s mother and uh and over heat and this was chosen and they met in uh in uh with samrik uh also connected to something called mountain resort they have another water hotel quite famous for this one uh and they have a local foundation information which also was interested to support the local village uh with the energy at that time these had developed a lot and even more about it after finalized then the prefacility study was it was uh established it was financed by smarthfield city sweden and uh uh morten victoria was on the plane playing the monday after it was very quickly uh great initiative and developed this prefacility suddenly everything puts on hold because the local government was not allowed to give energy prices and suddenly it was on hold it for i don't know for weeks by it's uh then uh sverak we have a good dialogue with the ambassadeur here in the in stock on and the ambassador in a few days she came up with a local guy at the central department central government in the in the dars alarm that was allowed to give a price on the electricity and so suddenly the project continued and this is a typical hold up as i believe that every person and every entrepreneur in these developed countries turn into that means that you don't really have the right connections over time to move the project forward and this was a clue a key element to actually continue so thank you to the ambassadeur grace she was winning receiving and giving audience to the group and uh is now in a position to continue the business design so why would we use the chamber of commerce in these kind of work uh i can use sverak as an example but you have these kind of chambers in more or less all companies so this is an example uh so we are mainly working with four uh four countries that actually have the embassy in stock on the northern countries in stock on the copper hegan so that's kenny and vanda from samia and uranda they are in copper hegan we also have a collaboration agreement with the local chamber of commerce in each country it's uh kevsa ken and private sector reliance private sector foundation in rwanda uh tanzania chamber of commerce in the industry and agriculture in tanzania and the uh ugrounda national chamber of commerce industry in uganda so these are all of the counter parts they have a lot of local members able to provide with partners which should be needed as a country part when you are moving to a certain country so this is something that we actually can provide today and this is also what was the offer and what is where to continue to contribute with when you come to these kind of cases this process of taking uh that's actually to support us will also be supported by the evaluation process that is in within the urban urban tech sweden where there's a project evaluation process that actually will support to make any project bankable so you can actually continue with this so it's as we have introduced that actually can feed with the information but you can do the evaluation of the project through this uh urban tech sweden and electricity uh but this is so interesting face one as for the world tanzania sweden and the second one was that this is the partners in the second phase urban tech under the urban tech sweden now comes the key element small and medium-sized companies was invited to be part of the project and this was on a certain seminar on May 19 where all these companies was invited to be part of the project that means SMEs was invited to be part of a project and that is the most long-hand no-hanging free you can wish for insights you're invited please come and join us instead of running around in east african before looking for project it's a huge huge difference so base number four i believe will listen to after after my speech so what we have decided to try to continue in is to make an SME uh portal you know we actually can feed in projects like it was explained from parametrics the paramedic where you actually have coded information that you can look for you can this is an example but you can have any embassy supporting the projects any chamber locally anchored in a country in this case that's on again and you also have swedish promotion organizations if they like to join like business sweden and you can also add in the project financing and put together in this case both the specific project location what company what size of the company that you have as the one you and a certain analysis of the funding and come up with a project and the funding list in together and put this into the evaluation process that for the next week this is something we are aiming for we try to go further as a problem up to support the problem and i'm very happy to discuss this afterwards but this is a project where it was involved most of those who has been part of EP5 in urban tech sweden if they like thank you thank you so uh you will uh make sure you can come up with something we would like to invite people so before yam terry lm international please join me okay all right so just to keep on john there so you will actually your intention is to use the parametric tool uh in this in this work all together all together now that's okay this is the camera okay okay so uh the benefit of being right so an example of the swapping road is uh to turn dreams into real feasibility studies my name is Morten Björk i'm as mentioned commercial programs in sweden the member of the city of course member of svea have been very happy this project received the support from smart city sweden in terms of the feasibility financing to get the sound like i mentioned so what is the next echo barge well actually this started for us when we were surprised in iraq after the war no one can provide electricity we did floating power plants that time based on fossil fuel within oil and for food programming in iraq and this is the way the idea came from so but now we do it within the economy concept so we focus on water electricity shorting cooling on sustainable floating platforms but in principle that is nothing you cannot put on a ship but there is not not one single technology that we cannot integrate uh so echo barge is a private company you can say it's a startup our focus is to provide entrepreneurial opportunities in line with the sg's and as we can incorporate anything we meet for the sg's so the team behind we have done more than 1000 projects in 15 plus countries on five continents anything from balancing wind farms and solar plants to nuclear power projects to meaning your name so it's quite an experience team behind us uh our firm as mentioned there is almost nothing we cannot integrate and this is one key we have identified two major hurdles for investment companies to develop one is that we shall come into pre-disability money wherever you go locally in the world it's the locals who know their needs but they don't have the funding to present them and if you go to investors they want finished business opportunities presented to them based on business pre finalized pre-disability studies minimum and what they can calculate their return on investments and make sure that there are bankable service supply etc and for the innovation companies as you heard many of them have very good innovations Sweden is very good in developing bits and pieces it's like we do the best drills in the world but the end users need old spines so we're everything in between and doing this chunky also involving local integration and production so what is the benefit well plotting is a big center we don't need to occupy land that makes bureaucratic processes easier and land can be better used locally we are mobile this means for the investors uh we provide much higher security simply if the customer doesn't pay the bill move uh scalable uh we can uh scale we are modular so we can scale adding functions adding capacity at any time you you're fully sustainable as well as anyone and sustainable we can be depending on how we are working even wish uh what what we integrate innovative yes we are existing more than 25-year lifetime clothing pilot class currently we are involved with City and IVL to do bathing houses in in Södermalm and how do we start we work with IVL doing 51 100 000 cubic meter cleaning of water projects in South America we are happy to be involved with business Sweden and the energy agency in Indonesia now to bring all these solutions so uh yeah so you can say that we are about innovative but we focus on the business modeling and the concept also providing for other you know the innovative company as uh John described before with all the course we included we provide turnkey not bits and pieces so we become the clients to the customers hence we can have the May 19 event but we integrate all the people coming to us the percent here and then we are customized we base on pre-visibility studies with a form for the end users who's actually the end users who tell what they need we customize the plan flow for it and we deliver and we can even operate turnkey modular we can add uh capacities functions at any time uh as soon as there is a new technology or not a need we can work on a little upgrade we can even do floating solar within typhoon and that's surviving time with resilient uh yes it's just a matter of dimensioning in the signing so this is really the eco watch concept we start with the end users communities industry cities resource whatever what they support us and the pre-visibility studies uh to define their own needs when we then and this is also when we really hope to cooperate with Sina and here today we are so happy that we're today signing with L.M. International here we are with L.M. International in general and for a certain protein in particular hens eric here and uh victoria victoria is responsible for the feasibility study that will take place eric we represent the representing the community in the baraca so we then based on the pre-visibility studies we form project companies sbs or you can say ship bonus company who will own the barch they will take in investors and we work with a lot of project financers around the world that as mentioned that either pre-visibility studies financed and done to to work to continue so this way we can actually do service providing for end users we can work with what you're called build on operate or even build on operate transfer basis so we can therefore support generally quality if we make the people we talk about before who have less uh capabilities they can have actually become owners of the means of production uh echo barch then take on to build and operate uh make sure that operation maintenance work educated over community so they are capable of later being both employed and take over the plants and this way we then can scale technology providers with positive cash flow organic flow i try this business model myself we supply more than five gigawatts of thermal energy storage based on the company where we only invested 100 000 swedish crowns the rest was positive cash flow organic flow and to be honest we are i'm also now doing exit for this company at the very high figure enabling me to be invest in myself and echo bot right we're talking hundreds of millions okay now we can do this so i know it works so here we come to the case uh that we have to talk me in particular now that we've worked right on this is then a protein pilot protein baraka eric will soon tell you what what what that can or change that can make uh so we had presentations with the local entrepreneurial community and for me the biggest take of this was not only the 200 local entrepreneurs we had the project to be presented to it was the question for one female entrepreneur now she said me why should i believe in this there are so many eight product presenters that always fail and i say yeah that's a good question but i can say one thing if this is going to be successful we should make mine only for those who says the only way that we can continue operation maintenance or whatever is supplied and then she understood the distance model that we call actually distance model and this is the first time i've been eating something that was really educational for us it's a good takeaway so we have been invited by the major in baraka we aim to go there in july to continue with their going to more feasibility stage for the pre-physipality we started uh so we have this is the from the committee of the local consumers and so this is in principle the project echo barge will provide a floating server station we will have a floating plant in pangalica that is more than a scalable we can increase capacities we start with a pilot that we can scale it up add functions that's the method need internet we need more water more electricity or cooling or fish or drying did you know that 80 percent of the certain type of fish they catch that is destroyed of course they cannot drive right when we did the tanzania case they were so happy to receive support from we came to turn the resort into an equal resort we came back and decided that we should cool fish there was 30 percent of the fish was destroyed rotten but because they cannot cool it and we had conceived from the this pre-physipality done as supported by small group of sweden that we had 12 months to build the plant as we used ship financing a project it took one year there after for the investors to get all that money back simply because you used all the fish that was otherwise lost and this means we can then in san siva we can then arrange that the local community become employed can cool that fish and sell it and when the investors get their money we give them the plant right so in this case we have a similar concept coming up here you have floating solar you have energy storage we provide water electricity and then here is where we stop right so the local community then will have the water tank on the land we supply to they will have electrical substation we supply electricity for so this was what we hoped to work with sida and others to provide the guarantees for the local community to build their infrastructure and at the same time nearly we would like to help the health everyone the sort to help us with the pre-physipality studies of course be sure if we can hear in the pre-physipality study that we also have funding itself right if we can hear sure the business case no doubt we get the quality financing especially if we have guarantees to ensure that the end users are bankable for the services so benefit communities we create jobs we can provide office production areas scalability we minimize land occupation no need to prepare land very less environmental impact we reduce CO2 emissions even when we will be able to trade the carbon trading here and we provide the means for other entrepreneurs to develop their business so there are many benefits here for the innovation companies rapid growth organic growth can you imagine how this financial terminal will be increasing can you manage someone come to you and say why don't you come and meet us in sweden and we would buy an order with you where you have a down payment covering your development cost and you don't need to dilute your shareholding to other investors to invest in the companies let's do it through orders instead and then you have your automatic your pilots and test this worldwide on ecobarges so we then finance this through orders so and we integrate the small bits into operational plans we guarantee operational maintenance locally before we educate reduce warrantier risk and we protect the ip through shareholding in the project companies which is also the higher ip so even for the for the innovation can be taken we can become their own customers so this is a little bit about the project steps we are now entering a deeper pre-visibility stage in kong of chasa there of that we have means to feasibility financing we start the project companies and then you can see as so many projects without the feasibility with a third party also then evaluating that what we do is through project financing design construction commissioning operation and in the end the investors exit we take on to put our own sheep and in there to to operate and maintain concept design pre-visibility yes victoria maybe there on picture okay yeah thank you i was on the so it was we were there on like locally speak of the local people visiting the community understanding really what is their mix and based on what we understood and we start from there we started with supermediate development that is why the small city of sweden feasibility was divided we did for echo barge and for echo resort as well so we just see that they delivered two of them i think that we have not enough time to discuss i would like to come back to work again to make every comment yes so i will say that here you have the contact is with victoria if you have an innovation you want to get into this system if you have your project you want to work with us so happy and i'd like to end with two things one saying that after this in the next break we'll have a signing ceremony with element the national to support feasibility study in parka and to have a long-term cooperation which i'm so grateful and now i would like eric to finalize this presentation by telling us what difference would an echo barge make in barge thank you very much eric as you heard it my friends speaker i speak french um naturally so i will try some english and i think some of some of you know me already and uh christina we've met we don't know through class to a project with some university in gondola and i was so happy with those ideas of innovation so um sorry yeah and i was also in contact with different students from um your university doing this kind of bio technique in yuganda so i was part of this as well so i like i love innovations and what we are we can say about congo maria said it we have a year we have everything we have resources but we lack technology we lack resources but we have everything in in terms of potential maybe we can say we have the richest with the congo as seen forest and everything so we can say we can do everything but the community i want to talk about is baraka since you said i represent the the population of baraka so this population is that a huge town i can say in the city the town no water and no electricity have you heard about it have you heard about a town with no water and no electricity this is baraka yeah so when i heard about this concept of okubaja said this is the only idea and that's what even with a woman in the conference said this is not true that's a dream and now we can see it's not no longer a dream with our old people in front of us we hope that your projects is going to come through and we will make it so baraka has five universities with no electricity even one bar baraka has 17 health centers including hospitals with no electricity you can see the situation baraka has 20 schools with no electricity nothing baraka has different infrastructure schools churches or whatever no electricity just one generator in the world town and the generator was given on political agenda but the parties to get elected they just come for this and when they don't they're not elected they disappear with their their things you can see this so it's a city which is insecure in all the situation so what we can say is to show you that if ekobaj is implemented in baraka one of the aspects is first of all to address gender equality and why do i mean what why am i interested in gender equality as a black guy because i was raised by my mother and i see how it's so amazing to be raised by a woman a woman and my mother was one of my inspiration that's why i love a lot this issue the concept of gender equality and when i see all these women going to the to the to the beach waiting for the fish fish a man a fish a man i mean fish a man no woman is a fisher in the lake so men collected their their fish from the lake and and there's the shore women are there to wait with their baskets to buy this fish and then to sell this fish in one or two hours you know that and if they don't sell this fish in two hours then this they get roasted and their capital disappears so ekobaj will address this issue women will get access to the health center the school will get electricity so children can get get distance education or computer knowledge or everything so this is a diode hydraulic diseases disappear deforestation around the town will you it will be reduced so these are some of the aspects we can just summarize for this project so say wonderful project please you are you've done a great job so we are so happy that you have funded this feasibility study and thank you for thank you thank you everyone okay thank you i was great to hear some some witnesses from the south in this in this work okay we we are um about closing we can have some questions here um what would be just the first question from my side what is the sort of uniqueness to this one this kind of work would you say when it comes to this kind of this because this is a sort of a pilot on on how to do an off-grid installation but perfectly i'll say one thing this is a miracle and i was thinking about my son reading the bible to me this summer never ever by myself there's some story about five tissues and three comrades they said the five thousand you have done that through technology or the fishermen and that's why thank you appreciate and this is really also interesting because as also described by erie if you talk about yanda it's quite interesting so you can imagine when the female entrepreneurs become the owners of the echo board they become the employers do you use your employer friend and so it creates jobs locally yeah yes and that's right yeah very very good um thank you um yeah can we go on with the signing now we can wait until a little bit we take it in the middle yeah okay he's very eager to get this signature i think it's for us too to take a meeting with with zeta to support us okay thank you let's now then see if i can what we have seen is uh some examples from the project uh which means the i mean the swashin girl project now um and are there any sort of uh are we uh we have any more questions to we have seen now the mall university of course to be developed for engineers we've seen that the science science parks and incubators in sweden have become stronger in their internationalization strategies and we have also seen that we more than have done some some events to connect but we have also seen uh you innovators here mania and and ATT has developed their product internationally um so now we'll see what we have coming up uh as new corporations because this project is ending by the end of november um and first of all are there any questions that you want to clarify with with those um those presentations we have had and are there any questions from online participants no no yeah a comment yeah a comment yeah and this is because all of us presently today have been in a room by everyone but i don't think stan ever got that you're in a very humble but strong strong and have led us through the project over two years and looking to some of the personalities i can say it was not very easy all the time so i think i've done a great job but i think i'll speak for all of us thank you thank you nicely yeah thank you um what so what just would like to mention some things we'll have in the pipe um i know let's not remind the institute you have some ideas on gridless phase two yes i'll be very quick so gridless as i mentioned i think earlier to somebody it's been the sister project to swash uh for financing the project and we're moving on to phase two started this year and we're moving on with the new work uh partly inspired by some of the work presented here um partly new ways but here we're looking at uh energy for waters basically the connection between these two sectors are traditionally are looked at separately what are what's coming up what's happening not just in land but also offshore in in this stage we're moving towards being a little bit more handsome for example work package three is going to be developing tools for island settings and work package four is going to be looking reviewing at how the deployment of solar mini grids has worked out and what hasn't worked out and work package five is looking at urban water utilities in relation to adaptation how can it ensure an equitable adaptation of the future work package two is very much inspired by the work that eco bar has been has been running and as uh fitting on the wave of interest increasing interest in the marine space for deploying all sorts of activities we wanted to look at what are the opportunities there and then we are basically looking at at all of this from a scale and power approach how are these new types of infrastructures influencing the way that places are governed how people take decisions and what types of new power relations are are are created from from new infrastructures uh if we move on to the next the second one is the project that's going to be launched next year called in our cool well which is finance by sida we're looking at three uh aspects here with particular focus on capacity building and finding actual solutions in a quite extreme context i would say the more most extreme of extremes because it's not just the lack of things but the fact that you can't access it and the fact that uh being able to to cover for them or trying to get some finances is basically non-existent it's a difficult country so uh hopefully this project can also act as a catalyst for a lot of people that might be interested in entering this station and that we can facilitate contacts with uh local effort that's it great stan can i make a comment there yes from eco bar tab we really appreciate the contact and development in the swedish environmental institute for cuba and i can say that the team behind eco bar we have actually already provided clothing power plants in cuba uh and also buying electricity all those possible so we look these are the huge of the going to collaborate with you and we appreciate your the event you created this summer that we could participate in the cuba delegation it was very appreciated and we look forward to looking at how this can be developed next year great thank you yeah uh so we haven't talked so much about the cuba on testbed but but for a moment reason to get has been there and uh had seminars and workshops and see how how cuba what could what could work in cuba within the project so that's it's an interesting continuation there and then i would like to say that we also are looking into from from our side uh to for a big big project um where we will actually see we can create a strategic innovation program within resilience in crisis more in peace we will call it um to actually strengthen the innovation system for city continuity in sweden this is also something we are we are working on as a continuation of this project so um i don't know if other more things are on your side uh here in the in the continuation work we will we will now do a final report we've been on that and we'll also look at look at what kind of new corporations there are so what we have seen is that there are quite a lot of new things coming up kind of to continue and the website will be there for another year um i don't know nina if you are part of the nina from vinova if you are part of the meeting here still yes i've been here all the time great just i have a cold so i shut off the camera to sneeze in peace okay so hi thank you for having me um as a program manager there's nothing more rewarding than to be able to follow a project to the end and to be able to attend these sort of seminars so i'm very disappointed that i couldn't come in person because of this cold but it's just it's so interesting when it all comes together in the end the learning results the benefits as we heard for example from echo barge here and and all of the other interesting pot projects and this feeling goes doubly with projects will come from challenge-driven innovation cda cdi as we call it challenge-driven innovation because they represent quite large well investments at vinova and we usually also deliver very interesting results correspondingly yes as we heard today and these projects cdi projects were supposed to be a high level of complexity as we've seen a lot of actors that really have to cooperate together to deliver results and also as opposed to contribute to solving challenge related to the global sustainability goals and for me you're just one of those projects that really symbolizes the values what we tried to install in this program in a very nice way there's also this feature with system perspective that we expect work to be carried out in these sort of projects not in one dimension but in several and you see we have so many interesting off-grid innovations that you presented today and maybe there are even more that wasn't presented so thank you to our presenting companies but it's not only sort of product process development that's interesting i mean business model learnings for example the insights regarding with the sets factors the global market for offering solutions was super interesting and I think there's a lot of projects other projects that might benefit from that fine analysis and we have the infrastructure and production systems for example I know with water in a box you mentioned the hardships of trying to find producers that could handle your innovation and then policy and regulation of course at my special area is actually innovation procurement so I found the procurement side of this very interesting and with cultural values the tree well wastewater system you explained very nicely how education was a very important success factor for you so you've been working within all these dimensions all the five dimensions that we want these projects to work within and also the end of the end of today was really interesting also to see this sort of cooperation with different analysis and alliances sorry and scaling initiatives so really pleased that you focus so much on that sort of matching things for example parlor link and the scaling things you would think that this would be obvious but I've seen so many projects that people sort of forget that the projects really need to live on so you have to be able to scale up you have to be able to deliver the benefits and if you want to deliver benefits then you need to create conditions for the innovations to actually be able to deliver and also of course really excited to hear about the SIP plans I hope that goes well for you so I just wanted to commend you all on the hard and very important block that you have been performing during these two years and years before that of course and during the pandemic nevertheless so thank you for having me and the best luck to you and the project in the future thank you thank you this is for you thank you thank you Nina and thank you all of you who participated today I think we were 60 registered in the in the beginning for the whole for the whole session today so we have had some followers today I don't know how many were in the meeting but thank you it's been very interesting to listen to you all and unfortunately you will not be able to get the drinks and the menu now all of you out there we will do that and I I hope you have provided yourself with some something to drink now afterwards at least okay then that's all thank you so much for today thank you all