 I don't kill animals. Stop! Kill animals! Would you care if someone killed you in a humane, quick way, and ate your body in a sandwich? No, no, of course he would. You wouldn't care? No, of course he would. Why not? Well, I'm dead. You're dead. So why would I care if I'm dead? It's okay to be murdered because after you're murdered, you won't care. Would you care if someone ate you, like, eat your body? Uh, me? No? No, no, no? Oh yeah, I would hate that. Like, ate your body in a sandwich, a burger? Yeah, I would have liked that, yeah. Nah, nah, me neither. If you wouldn't like that, why do you eat other animals? I'm a vegetarian. Oh really? And you? Because they taste good. They taste good? Okay. What if I do humane slaughter? Yeah. Humane, and I get to eat you? Is that okay? No. Why? Tell me why. Because I want to live, I want to die. You don't want to die? Yeah. You don't want to be eaten. You don't want to be eaten. I don't want to be eaten. What if I killed you really quickly and you didn't feel it? Is that okay to eat you? It's better alternative doing that than obviously putting it through pain. So if we have to eat some food. I'm talking about you. Me. Is it okay to kill you quickly? If it was legal, then you could do it. No, no, no, brother. No, not legal. I feel that's so cool. Only from ethics. Only from ethics. Ethics. If you taste good in a burger, is it okay to kill you and eat you? If the death is fast. So if I do what humane, it's okay? No. Okay. So if it's wrong to eat you because you want to live, why isn't it wrong to eat a cow if they also want to live? Because the cows generate, they generate their new cows. But if I make another one of you, is it okay to kill you? No. Maybe I'll take DNA, make another one of you. Is it okay to kill you and eat you? I don't know what I eat. It's basically what the carnival is. So the tooth, especially... Do you think this is a carnival tooth? No, no, no. Do you want to grind meat? Just on hand? No. It's pretty pathetic, bro. Come on. That's pathetic. Have you seen the lion's teeth? Yeah. So why is it wrong to humane-ly kill you? Humane-ly. Why is it wrong? It's not my... I'm not the one who decides whether it's wrong or not. No, no, no. They can both be wrong and they can both be right. I don't have a choice. I just like meat so I eat meat. Is it humane to kill you if you don't feel the pain? Is that humane? To kill me? If you want to live, yeah. Is it humane? You can do whatever you want. Are you religious? No, no, no. Yeah, we have different beliefs, bro. Are you Christian? Yeah. Have you heard this before? Do unto others. Yeah. As you would have them do unto you. You know the golden rule? No. The golden rule? Animal is not a human, bro. No, no, no. But they are an other. An animal is not a human. Bye, bye. As Muslims, we like to slaughter them quick and then it's a quicker thing. It's a better alternative. You sound very, like, English to me. Like, you've been living here most of your life. So you eat animals out of UK farms and slaughterhouses. Yeah. Yeah? And then you buy the meat that says halal. It has a halal label on it. Yeah, obviously there's not so much that we can do with it. Okay, tell me the question. Is it humane to kill you if you don't want to die? Is that humane? No, it's not humane. But the soul of an animal and the soul of a human is different. How do you know? You measured the souls, have you? No, but... Is there someone inside of an animal experiencing the world? Suffering, pain, well-being? Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They are others. Experiencing the world too? Yeah, they experience like a dog. Like, dogs like humane and... It's okay for me to kill the dog and eat the dog? No. Yeah, why? Why is it different? Because a dog is a friend of... This is a friend of a human. So you only don't kill your friends? Yeah. Do you eat chickens? Halal chicken? You eat halal chicken. Obviously if we find out that they're torturing them instead of that we are not allowed to eat them, isn't it? Why are they serving it to you then? That's not... That's the ethical... Torturing animals is against our religion. I know. It's haram. I know it is. When these chickens are born, they're born into these Frankenstein bodies that grow too fast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they take those chickens from the factory farm, some of them die in the farm, and they are suffering from existing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then they take them to a halal slaughterhouse. And then they slaughter them. They say a prayer in there, and they slaughter them almost the same way, and then they chuck it in the supermarket with a halal stamp on it. Is that halal? Yeah, obviously that would... I want to become vegan. Would you want to be eaten? No, of course not. What if I killed you quickly? I want to be eaten. I want to die. You want to die and be eaten? Okay, if we tell you... If we tell you I'll be vegan, would that give you peace of mind? No, no, no, no. I want you to... You're trying to convince... I want you to think for yourself. I don't want you to harm the animals. That's all. Because animals are harmed when you go and buy a chicken, and they slaughter the birds, and they replace it when you buy them. I feel like it's fine if there was a certain amount of animals being slaughtered. How many? How many is okay? If there's a dog you don't know... Yeah. Is it okay to kill that dog? No. I can never eat a dog. I can eat not a dog. Why not? Are you crazy or something? How can we eat a dog? Why can't you? It's a dog. I think it's wrong, but why do you think it's wrong to eat it? It's a dog. Yeah, it's a dog. But why? Tell me, explain. It's created by God, by Jesus. You get me. I thought you said God said it's okay for us to eat animals? Yeah. Didn't you just say that before? Oh, yes. No, no, no, no. It's good. It's good. No, no, no, no. Listen, in the Bible it doesn't say not to eat dogs. No, but what's it called? Does it? It doesn't say not to eat dogs in the Bible. We have different beliefs. Sometimes it's morally wrong in it that they're doing, and obviously there's one thing they're telling us all. Who's telling us? It just depends on what you've seen in it. I've not seen any of this. Of course not. Obviously when we live in our village... Your family's from Pakistan? Yeah. Whenever I go back there, I can see it is calm. It's naturally born in our village. We buy the chicken ourselves. We eat the chicken ourselves. Okay, I'll catch you. I'll catch you. We can talk about that too because I personally don't think that you need to do that. What's your name, man? Joey. Joey, yeah. What's your YouTube channel? Joey Carpstrop. I love a look at it. I hope you get some good views on YouTube. Bless you. Take care. Take care, take care. A couple of Muslims, they're a very nice gentleman and I was about to say about the cutting the animal's head off, even in their village scenarios still wouldn't be okay because they don't need to do that. So when an animal has their head open, they're trying to breathe and they're terrified and they're pissing blood out of their neck, it's a horrible, horrible, brutal situation for the animal. I wouldn't want them to die in that way, that's for sure. Vegan is also hell out, so you can be vegan and Muslim. Let's keep going. What's the acceptable amount ethically to slaughter? What is the acceptable amount of animals? To be honest, how many are slaughtered? She made that statement. Let me answer. How many is allowed to be slaughtered in your eyes? Okay, how many are slaughtered right now? 70 billion land animals every year and between one and three... I'm turning vegan now. No. This guy is a person, right? I'm not going to eat him because he talks, he's, you know what I mean? They communicate. They communicate. Yeah, they're not going to talk to me. But they don't want to die, do they? Yeah, but they're going to get eaten. They get scared? They're going to get eaten even way, bro. Do you think it's wrong to kill a cow? No. Why not? Because you eat it. But if I eat you, it's still wrong to kill you. But why are you going to eat me, man? No, I'm just saying... It's a fetish. To eat people? I want to find a reason to eat you. I think it's a fetish. Come on. I'm just saying, like, if you don't want to be eaten, you could probably agree that a cow doesn't want to be killed and eaten. Yeah. They don't want to kill, but I like meat. Is it justified to kill an animal because they taste good to you? Through the animal's eyes? No. It depends on if I'm grieving it. No. Well, I'm just kidding. Yeah, but does the animal... Did you want to eat meat? Does the animal want to be eaten? Carnes are cruelty. Yeah. You know, if you're going to? You're going to? No, no. Why not? A lot of it meat. Why? Why? It's bad. Because carnes are meat. But they kill the animals. Yeah, we know. Is this good? This is not good. It's a good one. It's sad. Why? You're not going to stop people from eating meat. Yeah, but that doesn't mean we should do it, just because we can't stop some people from doing it. There's a lot of things we can't stop people from doing it. I guess so. That's a belief. No, but brother, there's people that still get murdered and stuff. But we don't do it. I don't murder people. Exactly, you don't. So just because people still going to eat animals doesn't mean you should. Yeah, but... Because you think it's wrong, yeah? Yeah. You think it is wrong. What's wrong? What's wrong? To kill an animal and eat them. If you don't need to, if you don't need to for survival. But if you don't kill the cow or the pig, now, then many people get hungry. I'm going to talk about them. I don't eat them nearly 10 years. Because... Society does. You like the taste? I like the taste, yeah. You might taste nice. It's not good enough reason to kill you. Why do you think that? No, but like, let's just say, if you cooked me up with spices and this and that marinade, I might taste good too. It's not a good enough reason to kill me. How do dairy products, like drinking milk, eggs, just harm animals too? Yeah, so in the dairy industry, they forcibly impregnate the cow because she needs to be pregnant in order to produce milk, yeah? Yeah. It's really perverted, so excuse me for being free. But they get their entire arm and they stick it in the anus of the cow and then they get a semen from a bull, which is a male animal. They masturbate the bull to get it out or they use a... It's like an electronic dildo that forces the bull to ejaculate into a cup. Okay, so they get this semen, he has his hand inside the anus of the cow and then they get it out and they put that into her vagina and he holds the cervix through the anal passage and pushes the semen into her uterus. Yeah? You don't even think that's good by itself? Yeah, no. I'm sorry because the animals kill her. I love animals. But you eat them. You can't love them? We love animals. I smell them. You eat them? But, um, eat them. You eat the animals. You can't love them. If I love you, I'm not going to eat you. I love animals. And kill you? No. This isn't love? No. That's not love. It's not a good idea. It's not love. That's bad. The car, the car, the car is so good. Meat. That doesn't matter for the animal, it's bad. Yeah. I questioned that it was wrong, so I stopped doing it. I wouldn't want to be treated like this. I didn't think it was right to treat animals like this and I didn't have a good enough reason to do it. Justification. Okay. You cannot eat the eggs because you... I won't eat them because of the hens mistreated and gassed and killed and they go to the meat industry. But the eggs, they live. When they deliver the eggs, they live. Yeah, but they're laying egg after egg each day and makes them suffer. The boys, the little chicks that are boys, they go in the mincer. They get killed straight away. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know why they hate to eat. It's a good question to ask yourself. I feel like animals were put in this world to eat them. Obviously not in this amount. We're eating an extreme amount. If we cut this by half or even like... Wait a second. Wait a second. There was no rule only eat this amount. Of course animals are put in to eat it but you see the... I don't think so. I don't think so. No, no, listen to me. The reproduction process is... that's what's f***ing up. Well, then that cow will go to where the mother cow after losing her children and producing milk, she goes to the slaughter house, a Muslim country it's usually just sliced across the throat and they bleed out and throw up through that neck. So they don't get hurt and they take it... So they don't feel the pain for as long as they do. If you electrocute an animal they suffer for longer. The way we do it they suffer for the shortest time. They suffer for a minute. I was non-stun Halas water cows suffer for up to a minute. Yes, but it's the least suffering way for all animals. It's more suffering. The animal doesn't eat animals, but... You're hungry. You can eat vegan food. Vigano. Vigano. I've tried the vegan food. You've tried the vegan food. I don't kill you. I don't kill animals. Stop killing animals. You forgot to do this. I know your family's saying one thing but you have to think for yourself. Yeah. The people here have to think for themselves otherwise you listen to others what they've said. Because I was a trade like this in my family. My family they're not vegans. Mine weren't too. They are now. They are now. But they weren't before. Mine are now. They like me. Yeah. So did I. So did but now I know what's behind it. I've got a question this at night. You have to think about it. Let me tell you move it to watch called Dominion. Dominion. Dominion. Dominion. Dominion. Dominion over time. Dominion over time. Dominion. Do you you could hear me. Do you have any thoughts about it? Do you think this would stop it, make a difference? I think that you can make a difference in your life. After hearing you I would like to turn Meghan actually. Be vegan is hello. Are youiscited by You said they don't suffer, you've seen Halas a little? Yeah. You've seen an animal get packed in the neck and bleed out? Does it look like the animal wants out to happen to them? No. If God put them there for us to eat, why don't they want to be killed? If God put us here to live, why don't people want to die? Same thing. We're all gonna die at some point. Yeah, but murder is much different to natural diet. Death. We're all gonna die at some point. Yeah, but it doesn't make killing okay. Correct. Like animals don't willingly walk into a slaughterhouse. They go there in there against their will. And if they were put here by God, they would willingly go into a slaughterhouse and be killed. But they have to deceive them and pretend that they're not going to be killed in order to kill them. They have to deceive them and make sure they don't see each other being killed, which is a Halal standard. Don't show them being killed. They have to deceive them to kill them. I feel like baby steps could get me to being vegan. If you start convincing people to make their kids vegan, like I'll make my kids vegan. I think, yeah, I mean that's good. If you want to help me. I want you to be vegan first and then you can help me. It's like being addicted to cigarettes. But what about... Except every time you have a cigarette, an animal's head's cut off. Yeah, when you have a cigarette, you call yourself. It's a personal choice. Yeah, but it's the same thing. If everyone decides to make the next generation vegan, they won't... Everyone cares about themselves and they don't care about other people. So let's say for people that don't want to be vegan themselves, try to convince them to make their kids and their grandkids and everyone else vegan. You would just be a bit of a hypocrite if you expected others to do something you won't even do. No, I'll do it. No, no, yeah, I mean, like... Other people that don't want to be... They should educate the next generation. Yeah, yeah, they don't want to be convinced by you, like for their own personal reasons. Ask them to... To educate others to be vegan if they don't want to make the personal shift. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not a vegan. Okay. We'll be vegan for you. For the animals. Thank you. For the animals. I'm glad you're thinking.