 2024 yw yw'r ffordd hynny'n gallwch meddwl ffagfaith FACUP, AFCON a, ychydig, yng ngyflawn iawn. Rhywb i'r Jan Rhywb i blws i wneud hynny'n rhan o'r cyfeirio cyhoedd ymlaen i gyfnodol. Felly, yn y dda'r cyfnodol, Y Llyfrgell Gwyrdiaeth Pob. Rwy'n ddod i'r ddod i'r stryd. Felly, yma, rydym yn y ddod i'r cyfnodol ar y cerddau. Rhywb i'r cyfnodol, yn y ddod i'r cyfnodol. If you download the Green King Sports app you'll also receive 10% of every single drink whenever there's a game on. The venues offer a range of low and non-alcohol options so dry January doesn't mean you have to settle for an inferior sports watching experience. Welcome to the 1878 FM podcast episode 23, myself, Ed and gorgeous David Vitty. Ehm, great hair, great hair. Who, me or you or Perth? I mean, I think. You, great hair, Perth's got good hair. Oh my ears are mess. It looks like you need a brush but it's good hair. It's windswept. It is windswept. It is windswept. I've been on the malls. What storm is it now, Jacob? Is it something? Dave. Jocelyn. Jocelyn is the last one. Jocelyn, is it? There you go. Jocelyn. Why did it come out? Why can't it just be like... Storm Jane. Maybe that's why. Going to bit windy. Cos Storm Jane. Maybe that's why. I've had a storm of Jane in my life. There you, bitch. Listen. Oh, okay. We are after the one o'clock water shed. It's fine. You can say that. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. There's an upbeatness in... Is there? I can feel an upbeatness if it's Friday. Honestly, recording on a Friday is the way forward. Well, you say that. But the upbeatness, it isn't for that reason. But we might as well reference it in a minute. Yeah. But the upbeatness is. Yeah. And I know and I admit I'm saying this with still three hours and 15 minutes left of Friday to go. But I haven't seen to have been a disastrous story all week. It's a week where we haven't been hit with anything and I'm saying it lower on my voice. No injuries, you can't do anything about them. We'll get onto that in a minute. But no, you know what I mean. That's not 10 feet. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Someone even tried to make a bad story about us yesterday and we sort of just shrugged it off. The one about the electricians of Bramley. Oh, yeah, it was nothing. That was nothing. We're like Teflon this week, which bumped it off. There's loads, but you see stuff on social in half the time. You're just not even sure whether it's, you know, I see stuff. It's just made up bollocks a whole time. Yeah, yeah. It's almost like they're just trying to, you know, somebody's there just trying to give us a kick. And we haven't had one for three or four days. Somebody comes and puts a boot in. There was a thing the other day about a transfer bloody ban and all this kind of stuff. And on one hand they were saying that we were going to get our points reduced to six. And then we were going to get some more. And then there was a transfer ban. And by the end of it, you just say, oh, do you know what? I don't care anymore. Not that I don't care anymore. I don't care about the article anymore. It's just like bored now. Do you know what the problem is? Is this the problem that we have had that many kickings? And there's a lot of stuff around that now people can say whatever now and there'll be a right. Even if there's not no truth in it, you start to go. Oh, is this something? No, there is definitely like, because, because fanbases for all football fanbases are so reactive now. That's what clickbait was like literally invented for wasn't it to get reactions. I better click on this. I better see what's going on. The problem with social media is after time you see a story pop up on your feed. And it's about three weeks old anyway. You're like, why? What happened to social media being like, you know, the next thing, the next thing, the next thing? You're going things like Facebook. People put you see messages that are like days and days old. You see it on it. You see like a transfer story come out. And then a couple of days later, a different account puts the same news out and everyone jumps on it and like retreating. You go on. Yeah, you go on. That was out a couple of days. These haven't just broke it. That was out two days earlier by this family. We had the thing with the young American lad who's been on trial. I've never come from Philadelphia Union. Someone who's connected to that put that out a week before. And then other people ran with it a week later. And it was like maybe they should start tagging us in it then. You know what I mean? The oracles. Exactly. Exactly Dave. Say that what is that. It wasn't our story. The oracles. It wasn't our story. Someone else has put it out. We could have stolen it like many others. They want to be talking to the organist, not the monkey grind. Exactly. But that happens right across it. And then you've got the flip side to that where there's a count. That literally just makes stuff up. And people go, have you seen what Marcel Brands said about his time when he went in to try and buy, you know, he's gone in and he's agreed to deal with him. Bapwy, but Monsieur, he went, no, we're getting Neil Mopay instead. And it's just a black quote. We can't have him Bapwy because Anthony Gordon's in such good form. And he's a family member. You know, but that's, you do see that. They chased him down the street for God's sake. On a bed sheet. On a bed sheet. Yes, but did anyone ever? For me, no one's peaked the Peter Johnston time when he drove off and that fanger on the back of the car and just held on like that. You can have bed sheets all you want until you've ridden freestyle on the back of Peter Johnston's car. Then you're not chasing someone off the club properly. Do you sometimes think Dave that you've missed part of this culture with the city and all the disturbances that it brings? Yeah, I think so. I mean, it's never quite the same, is it? You know, it's party two to all of the ins and outs. And obviously I just get what I'm fed here, don't I, for the most part? Well, listen, you get fed by the right people, Dave. That's all you need to know. Long like the yak, Dave, you just get fed and you're just there to put it away. I would never bite your hands on an island. There you go. Especially not having your roof after having your roof fixed. That's it. That's it. It's plain sailing. Plain sailing. With all these stones to bring it back. And he likes his sailing. And he likes his bike path as well. There is, well, just, I'm just thinking of his Instagram. He's on his paddle board. Starts running again, I've seen. And bikes. He's basically an Ironman, isn't he? Not really. I mean, running, running, I think. Is a grand title for what is essentially a bit of a plod. But if I can plod for an hour or so, then I think that's all right. That's good. That's decent. That's my little health check. Seven miles, something like that, 11K. That'll do me. Nice. Don't play it down. That's very good. Very good. Does me. Well, apparently, yeah. We will get back on to Evan in a minute, but we're recording this at the time and some very sad news has drifted across the winds of Merseyside. I've been at a disturbance in the force. We know there's storm Jocelyn. There's also storm Jeaghan, which could have been the J. On Merseyside, there's a lot of very... Well, the tears could be. There's a lot of tears, apparently, on radio. So people are crying. I mean, I've had three different messages sent to me playing me clips of people like crying. Jeaghan clop isn't dead. Jeaghan clop has told that the bully will be leaving at the end of the season. But Dave, is that a bit of a shock? The news today? Is it a bit of a shock? Yes, I suppose so. Am I that bothered about it? No. OK. But yeah, I mean, only in so much as an hour or so ago before now at the time of recording, which is lunchtime on Friday. I saw loads of mentions of clop come up on social media and also on WhatsApp groups and things without any detail on the story. And I thought, what's that? Is he dead? But he's not. And yeah, he's leaving at the end of the season, which obviously is destabilising, I think, is the word, for the club and for the fans as a whole who takes over. He will be a hard act to follow. I mean, it sounds like a kind of eulogy, doesn't it? But I mean, but yeah, now listen, he will be a hard act to follow. He's done well there. There are obviously uncertain times for the Redside emergency side. And we will see who they end up with. Early favourites is Sabi Alonso, I believe. Yeah, Big Sabi. I mean, Paddy, I mean, all joking aside, he's obviously one of Liverpool's best ever managers. He's overseeing their return to the top table in all fairness, whether we like it or we don't. So it'd be difficult replacing them on it anyway, regardless of how good the candidate is coming in. He'd be a difficult man to be push. No, he'll be, yeah. You see me? Do you know what? It just literally reminded me of when I was in school. And I just remember someone... It's mad, isn't it? I remember vividly someone running over to me and going, have you heard the news? Kenny's leaving. It just almost hit me. And I'll be honest, I can't even remember when Howard Kendall left us the first time, like he's in an ambulance or anything. But I remember that vividly. I remember people seeking me out at dinner time to help me. The day after we knocked on the affectors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was well, Dave Watson. It's a bit like that, though, to be fair, cos obviously that came mid-season. This is obviously Paddy Lee told of a fool in November that he was leaving. But he... This has been hinted at a few times, though, in his reign. There was uncertainty whether he'd stay in our dormant. After about five or six years, he got out. He'd just come to the end of it. And he has sort of mentioned a couple of times he wouldn't be at Liverpool for the long term. Well, yeah. Well, I was watching the pep documentary the other night. And he was obviously leaving Barcelona and buying Munich was different cos he left for Manchester City. But when he left Barcelona, it feels like the same thing. People... They can't do it cos they give absolutely everything to it now. And this will be city soon, won't it? Yeah, yeah, they will be city soon. If there's any comfort for both fans, if you want any comfort, pep won't be able to go forever. Cos it is a job that bans people out. You only have to look at everything. And it just after six months of the job, they go from looking like, you know, young people time to the emperor in Star Wars very, very quickly. They just look disheveled, Frank Lampard did a deal. I didn't even recognize him on the podcast. He did a great job. Yeah, smiling. The smile was the giveaway. You could see it, yeah. I mean, with Roberto Martinis ad here in about three weeks, like they did that. That's true. David Moyes went from ginger to grey. Very much so. So, we really call out at the night. Cos he's just supreme, isn't he? I mean, even show. He was grey anyway, wasn't he? Well, yeah, he was all right. John Dights just be difficult to aid him. Cos he is so short anyway. He's got the old goat's eye. So, he'll be, I think he'll be okay. Oh, Marko. Marko Silver looked great when he came in. Didn't he, by the end? He looked like, you know, when he's rejuvenated now full of him. So, yes, there you go. The water of the Thames. That's what it is. That's what it is. Drink a pint of that. I don't know what they want to drink it. That's what they say. Okay. I mean, I wouldn't advise that on this isn't from anyone who's thinking of doing that. Ped doesn't have any kind of health background that he could advise you to drink. None. Anything on the terms. I haven't put so, a lot of people don't either. Okay. Again, we're back on social media but don't make up things again. Dave, back to Everton. It is F.A. Cup fourth round weekend. Yep. Bormythad di, the joy of the Thursday night game last night. No, they took advantage of it. Imagine, imagine, sitting a gullus in the raft, timing your five, nil up, imagine. But lute and sound, Dave, difficult game? Yes. I mean, difficult game. They're all difficult games. Any Premier League tie is going to be tough. But, winnable also. Having a home tie is what it's all about. I think we should be fairly happy. Listen, as they always say, if you can't, you've got to beat these teams somewhere along the line. So why not now? Do you think this is an opportunity, Dave, to keep building that little bit of momentum obviously Everton are currently on, beating in 2024. But Sean Dite is keen to improve Everton's home form and try to build, start making it a place that people don't like coming to again and beating Crystal Palace last time out, a gulluson, obviously drew with Aston Villa. Is this an opportunity for Everton to beat not only a team who are battling with the wrong end of the league at the minute, but just get, start making gulluson a bit more, I want to use that word for, just because it's anything, but making it a more difficult place for opposition. Yes, but it is a double-edged sword. As always, isn't it in so much as, yes, momentum and confidence and feel good is all positive and certainly has a major effect on a team and a club and a fan base. However, the downside of that is the fact that we haven't got the biggest squad and it potentially is another game or another game and then another game depending on what happens on Saturday, which could then result in injuries. So that's the flip side of the whole thing. So I think you need to weigh the whole thing up. Yes, I'm happy that we're still in the cup. Yes, I hope that we beat Luton tomorrow. Yes, I hope that we progress and we get a decent draw in the next round. But if push came to shove, if it was a case of, do we want a cup run or do we want to keep our most important players fit for the rest of the league campaign, then you know what the priority is. I mean, Pedra, there is a tricky game you had the news earlier on this week from, sorry, yesterday, not necessarily from Sean Diteshire and Andre Gomez is now out. Adelaid y corei is longer term, which we know is probably going to, well, looks potentially like it's at least another week or so before he's considered and even have got three games in that time. And we're heading towards the transfer window shutting, which is on Wednesday. There was a slight change of health from Sean Diteshire and the press conference in terms of players coming in. I think he did seem a bit more open to that. And I think even between the lines of a couple of articles, he was looking at trying to bring one or two bodies in, but also looking to maybe get something like Ben Godfrey out. So is that news that, like the corei's out, Gomez is out, Colm's not quite ready? Does that hasten, evidence need to bring plays in? Cos it is worrying, isn't it? Got to, hasn't it? Cos, like, it's taking my day. We're saying that. I think we've got a team. For Saddy, you know what I mean? That's it, we've got a team. And we'll have a team for Fulham. I don't know. Is there a surplus? There's no variation, is there, at all? That, yeah, of course. I think you always say a manager's talk about bringing plays in who've got to be better than what you already are. I think we just have to bring bodies in. I think we need a couple in who could just, like, sit on the bench and aren't necessarily better than anyone we've already got, but are better than maybe some of the kids on the bench. I think that's the way we... Is it important, though, that one of the... I'm not saying, like, game changes, but I think we're in that market right now, just where we are, but it's got to be someone who can give the manager an alternative, hasn't it, Yw? I think, like, someone like Dan Dumit, but who actually worked hard. And I don't mean that in a nasty way. I just mean someone who actually fits what Sean Dyche wants. And has just got a little bit something about him, but isn't, like, an absolute worthy of a player or someone who go, oh, we've beaten this team. I think there must be players out there playing for their teams or whatever. There might be an issue somewhere that we could get in for the rest of the season who would work hard for the team, come off the bench and add something. They mightn't be better. I say they're a winger. They mightn't be better than Dwight MacNeill. They mightn't be better than Harrison or Sina Central, because then they might be better than Corey, but someone who can actually just play there... Did you see yesterday, Ishmael SARS off the loan? Now, he would be... I haven't looked at him a few times and I've thought I've priced him out, but he's available for loan. Now, someone like him, I don't know what the figures are, but someone like him who can play wide, but also play through the middle, I think could be pay... I don't know whether I haven't cooked yet, but someone like that I think could be pay perfect, because there is some around. Some of these names are popping up, not clubs are prepared to let go on loan. There is some people around. Come on, Dave, there must be someone in the EFL. Can I have a bit of time on that? Of course, you can. In terms of Ben Godfrey, I can only assume that this is to do with balancing wages on a weekly basis, because if it weren't for that, I don't think we can afford to let him go at the moment. Oh, I'd let him go without an issue. Would you? I just think we'd still need cover, don't we? We need cover, Dave. Do you know what's weird? You look at our bench, we've got two centre backs, and then we've got like three attacking players, and then we've got like nothing in the middle. And I would... I think I'd take the calculated gamble of... To me, and I think this is the way I look at it now, is this like 10 million quid just sitting on the bench and in a hell of a lot of money and never playing. Hang on, we're talking about loan deals though, aren't we, as opposed to a sale? I'd sell them if I could, genuinely. Hang on, that's the difference. I'm talking purely on the loan front. If we're selling and we can actually get decent money for him, I'd pay 25 though, didn't we? 20 a share. You're absolutely right. If it's a sale and it can put 10, 15 million pounds or whatever in the coffers, which for us is a lot of money and is important, then that's one thing. In the case of loaning out until the end of the season, that was my point in so much as yes, other than balancing weekly wages, and I don't know how tight that scenario is. If that is crucial, then yeah, but if otherwise, I just think that we're so thin. We are, yeah. I'd be tempted to keep him. I think it is. They are trying to sell them. And therefore, that's why it makes sense like you think you said yesterday, if selling them brings them, I don't know, she brought them 10 million quidding for our games, she. That gives Evan a little bit of wiggle room to go and grab a couple of players on loan or even, hey, who knows, even bring one on. Who do you've got an eye on? He's worth more than that. He's got 18 months left, Dave, on a contract. Listen, I was saying 12.5 million the other day. I thought it was around the right number. He's a player in the Premier League quite a few times. He's still a decent age. And I think I do think there's something in there. He's a good buy for somebody, I think. I think so, yeah. I think for the right club, I think he's a really, you know, with that kind of money, if somebody has to get him for 10 million, I think he's a really good purchase. See, I think something like Sheffield United, if they could get him, and just when you're in our back, because Wyldon does like a back three, he starts every week. I think he developed and improved. I'd rather he didn't go to a team. No, don't get me. That means Genoa. Hey, triple seven. We'll link with him the other day, weren't we? I'd rather him go there. And apparently, there was a report yesterday saying a couple of people close to have let it out there that he's interested in going abroad and trying that kind of thing. He's had some interest in Italy, hasn't he? So, though I'd let him go, I think that's a gamble, calculates a gamble that we have to take. As long as it's like for money, as in payment, like Dave said, just loaning him. There's no point to have, make sure I keep him. Unless the theory would be loaned till the end of the season with a view to, you know, buying him in the summer. But that would have to be pretty much nailed on as good as it can be in terms of that summer deal, do you know what I mean? Because otherwise it is just a loan deal that potentially weakens what little we have for the rest of the season. That's what concerns me, that's all. Yeah, no, I think we just need bodies, as you said before. This will be the last time if we get through to the cup there'll be another one midweek, and I think we play Newcastle away as well. But apart from that, I think we're pretty much Saturday, well weekend to weekend, aren't we, for the rest of the season? Fallham, Newcastle and that cup, right? The fifth round, so I think we might just be able to cope with that. I mean, obviously, but it is that. It's the problem is if you lose the cally, which we have again, you don't have a backup for the cally, you have nobody, the manager still has not identified anyone who can play in that position. The only one was sort of Gomez and that reasons it. Yeah. So that's where we are, and there's a lot of talk yesterday, we'll be playing 4-4-2 on Saturday, you know, tomorrow just to try it and we've had other people in that role that hasn't really worked, it's an FA cup, try, you're at home, why not, why not try and put a little bit of give looting something extra to think about. Will a manager do that? I don't know, but it'd be a good opportunity to do it. And also, like you said yesterday, just look at the numbers. I mean, are you really going to try and shoot on something, you know, it's Dan Dume coming in and then Harrison going back in the middle and McNeill's playing on the other side and Dan Dume looks like that. My happening goes off the door, say. Do we just not even bother with him tomorrow and play better? It's a real pity, isn't it? I mean, I don't know the 21s game this week in the International Cup and it's just a real, not a shame obviously, but if only there was just someone who was like, who's really stood out in the game and said to them... Dab yn dono'r rhaid i'w ddan. But it wouldn't be great if there was someone because there's no one is there that we're really talking of, that we're excited about. Everybody that we were excited about and there are no Dobbins already... Stanley Mills would have been one, but he's obviously being on loan, got an injury off of the season. I still don't think Stanley Mills or Lewis Wellington really have excited me when I've watched them. I would love to see a young lad where people go, oh my God, did you just see what that, you know, Ocheronco or something like that? Did you see what he did? Oh God, I hope the manager's having a little look at them. You know what we have in the pathway? Andy Gordon coming to the 21s and he's jumped over the under 18s. It's just a real shame that we haven't got someone because if we did, they'd be in the squad now and obviously Tom Cannon if we didn't have to sell them would be part of that as well. That's another part of what's been going on at the football club is that all the young talent is that to be sold and there's just nobody there ready to take over and say, I'll be the person, I'll come in. That's the real shame of it and we've always had that through our time. We've always had that one player who's not going on the door saying, oh people are excited about and even if it's like for excitement, you know, even if it's the kind of excitement where you've made good stories, but actually if you go and watch them, they're not. We've seen a couple of them haven't we over at them with the time. It's just a shame there's not someone like that out there at the moment that can just generate that excitement in the fan base. Tom Cannon. Tom Cannon. Easy for you to say. Tom Cannon looks really good at the minute. Really, really good. Watching the other night and yeah, I mean, he just looks really sharp. Dare I say it, he looks actually like a young good buddy. Yeah, in terms of you know, he's just got that ruthless streak about him. That's kind of cold. He'll be one that will really it'll come back to bite, not bite us because I don't think we were on there. We think we had to sell, but he is one way. Thing on one hand, the LSM's money was like, oh my God, I can't believe someone paid that much money genuinely. And we've seen that so far with them. It's not really worth it. Tom Cannon will be the one that people go we should have got double for him. Wouldn't surprise me if I went back for him in the future. I don't think we'll have the facilities. Big man. No. He's had a club that won't be back in the Premier League, isn't he? So he'll be playing Premier League football soon. I think anyone who wanted him then would be asking would be looking at it. I really do. I hope there's a sell-on in there. I really do. One of them has got to be shut. We're not that clever. No, that is true. Well, let's listen, let's see if we can, let's see what happens because obviously you've got a chance to get into the fifth man of the FA Cup and obviously then there's a game of Fulham on Tuesday, which just very quickly Dave is a tough game, isn't it Dave? The decent. It will be a tough game. Yeah, absolutely. They are tricky. Mark has got them playing really well and they've got a bit of guts about them as well, Fulham, which is something you never used to say about them. So yeah, it's not going to be easy at all. We know that. We're very familiar with that side at the minute. So yeah, tough game. But we've got to get through them. We've got a tough few games coming up. Obviously they'll be up for Saturday, by the way. They'll be really, really up for Saturday without a doubt because this is a big, big stage for that club. And so that will be tough. Fulham will be tough Spurs and then City. It doesn't get any easier. Doesn't get any easier, does it? But it might after City. I mean, it does after City. It does after City. Just right now, I mean, in Ascend and All that it's getting more difficult. That's why it's important now not to focus on a game after Looting, is it? You've got to just go one game at a time and put the manager does. Anything could happen. You could play, you could pick a team on Saturday but you're like, I don't want to get players injured for Tuesday and get players injured for Tuesday by literally doing that. He has to just take one game at a time, doesn't he? He doesn't make excuses. That's fair play to me. He just gets on with it. This is football. We'll play other teams that might have their strongest side. That's what's part of football and he's got a lot of experience. I think we are lucky to probably have that kind of manager at this time in our... If ever there was a manager that fitted the situation and get it shown by you reeled off all those managers before and a lot of them were just wrong place, wrong time for a lot of them, you know, or wrong owner. But certainly shown by does seem to grasp exactly what's going on. It's temperaments right as well. Absolutely. You can see that as you say after a game, win, lose or draw and even if it's a negative situation poor result, injuries etc etc as you say, he's very much like no, this is where we are. We get on with it and we fight another day and he just seems to have a largely, certainly in terms of his public facing persona largely positive outlook for me and I think that given the situation with our club at the minute, I think that's absolutely crucial because there's plenty of managers that would sulk and just wouldn't perform under these conditions and would walk and I think you're absolutely right I think he's the right man at the right time. We talked about cloth and we talked about one man maybe that's not that common now one man ruling over a club and clubs have to do that. I don't know where the dice wants to do that but I feel like he has to do that at their football club him and Kevin Fell will have to be everything for this football club don't they, in tandem they have to work together and make sure they're plotting the right course and it's not going to be easy but I know Julia Bald's got the new interview with them today on a podcast on BBC Sound and I've just heard a little clip of him before and he's talking about the evidence flag and he's just like I haven't even seen my flag there's a flag of me and they're glad the streets he's so detached from everything that it's all about the football and he doesn't see a lot of that stuff but you're right David I think there's a few times where I would have liked him to have seen him got angry about situations but you know what, in the long term that might not have been exactly what we needed after the calm head, there's new years the fella after the game who can make the joke and again I'm not always I'm not always I've not always liked that I'm feeling that I would have loved him to come out and giving the referee to both battles after they should have had to send it off but the longer term is is that he knows he has to stay on the side of people and he has to keep that calmness and not make the wrong headlines when there's so many headlines about the football club you don't want to add to that do you don't want to add to that that the way people look at the football club and I think the one and I don't think Artheta was wrong in what he said but I do think when Artheta made that outburst against Arsenal, against Newcastle for Arsenal I think people started looking at him going oh you're just a big baby and maybe the media looked at him a little bit different after that that he didn't I mean I thought he was well within his right but I do think the media started treating him as in like you're not in control here you're not in control of the situation they also you know often that kind of reaction can also be you know indicative of pressure and pressure getting to you and that's one thing that you know whether he does feel the pressure or the pressure ever does get to him and he has sleepless nights at home we'll never know but you know the one thing that Daish does never portray is that is that kind of character or that kind of you know as if he's rattled or anything which is good and yeah I think you're right I mean yeah there's times when you want him to come out and give it loads but ultimately it's about keeping everybody positive and you know to fight another day and that's what he seems to do very well so yeah listen I wouldn't in terms of where we are in this stage in life with the club I wouldn't swap him for anybody just now Fair play let's move on I mean I might swap him for somebody only that's what I thought probably I don't think Pep would cope at heaven what he won't for the rest of the season I don't think Pep would cope I think Pep would be he'd be doing that he'd be like Cantonard doing the seagulls follow the trawler kind of stuff but after about three years I could see Pep doing a Cantonard to the family enclosure just jumping in when someone says hey Pep, sort it out lad I'm trying through the air into the family enclosure kicking off me missus said just moving on me missus brought something up the other day and I said I'd talk about it on here because it did make me laugh and I did think you are right basically my daughter needs a new passport so she went into the post office boo she went into the post office to send the passport off how much is that the woman behind it whatever £2.85 for a passport to send it off 120 quid isn't it but the woman then said £7.85 will guarantee you get there tomorrow so me missus said so what happens with the £2.85 well £5 gets it there in the next 24 the next 36 hours is on £7.85 guarantees it tomorrow so me missus was like what about the £2.85 that'll get you there but the £7.85 guarantee well what's the £2.85 are they not guaranteeing that it gets there and why is £7.85 guaranteeing it long story short me missus went I'll go with the £2.85 that's what I did passport was there the next day so in this country have we been just getting ripped off do you want this £7.85 guaranteeing it where is it going so I'm giving you something you tell me it's not going to where I want it to go it's a time thing though isn't it I think what they're saying is there are certain in your instance whether that passport arrived there tomorrow or on Monday if it was posted today it's not the end of the world I think from a business perspective when you've got documents that absolutely you need to arrive tomorrow do you know what I mean you pay extra for a guarantee that says it's going to be there I actually know the answer you can give me the answer but I still think you're making me pay more just for it to have the same outcome but I actually know the answer because I was a postman so I know the answer so basically if you just send a letter or anything it'll end up in the big shop it's like one of the shiny ones it ends up on a different desk where the fella walks up to you and goes you must deliver this because I remember seeing the fear in the fella's eye when I had to actually deliver a birthday card from the Queen for somebody's hundredth day and he was like you must deliver this first and I was like yeah I will and there is a separate table but it is just a big bit if you're going to sort it off you'd understand that it's like a I did work from the point in when I was at uni four weeks before Christmas it was a bit mad I've got like a chequered history with the mail because I was watching the programme the other night I know post offers from Royal Mail are different things but it reminded me of my first ever brush with the Royal Mail so I actually went to Royal Mail for my work experience when I was a kid I was in school I remember I'd been away for a couple of weeks went to Brannell and all the good jobs had gone so Royal Mail is one of those things it's a pillar of the community so you think work experience that's where your mum would want you to go keep your nose clean when you get a job you're sacked in two hours two hours how did you get sacked in two hours well you will feral in health so I'll explain this whole thing just the inepness of the whole place and the woman who actually run it and I think the woman who dealt with me actually is the woman who ended up running it so we went in there's five of us and they were like this is you're going to be doing this you're going to come in here today and tomorrow you'll be doing this and then on Thursday you'll be at a son office and you've got to be there at five o'clock in the morning people will now be saying of course you got sacked you could have just gone straight to it because you wouldn't have gone to bed by that time well I was a child child labour no wonder the post office is a disgrace take your CBE back now so you're going to watch this safety video and the woman got she said I've just got to pop out to get some she comes back and this video, this VHS like this VHS video of the way it can practice of the royal mail I've gone missing and she's scrambling around and she can't find it and in the end she says one of you is taking this video and we're like what why would we have taken what are we going to do put a sticker over it and put a little mania 12 or something and record over it so this video went missing she's scrambling around and she can't find it she accuses us all of stealing it and then she's like one of you needs to own up and we're like no one robbed a video anyway dismissed you'll never get a job in the royal mail and if this goes all on your records you'll never get a job waiting here so the next day I am literally she knows I didn't do takes me to school that's the way my mum was straight into the door this is what happened to my son you better get this sorted out we're doing about an hour I think the woman the woman had found the video in literally the room she'd come from she hadn't brought it with her and the woman had to sit there in front of five kids who were like we didn't want to be there anyway and made up and apologised it was bad like the parents and the kids they were just like just made up didn't have to go to that five o'clock sort of and it was excruciating did you move it did you move it honestly never went near listen my attention span of being in royal mail would not have got anywhere near I hate when I said this one once I saw what the video I was just thinking no way we'll pet him it being like something good it being like the goonies or something it's not going to be how you sort of let it in keeping your attention so basically this was like Tuesday night it might have even been the Wednesday and it was only for a week and they were like right I've got these posts you want to do and they were like no and they were like what are you going to do and they went well you can follow the caretaker for the weekend school everyone so we've become me in this other life we've become work experience caretakers and all we did and it was brilliant so when everyone else was in lessons we just went in the sport hall and played footy it was amazing we just played footy against each other for a week the greatest work experience ever the only thing was I'd missed out on Everton cos I'd been away and missed the opportunity get at work experience in Bellefield which I was a bit confused about but then I ended up going to work for royal mail but isn't it a good job I didn't have that on me record it is a good job but again it still doesn't really make me feel any better about them saying I'm going to deliver this I'll make sure to get there you should be getting there what are the things I know Dave's got to go but what are the things do we pay we're getting a better value for when we know quite obviously there's just black in us I can't think of another example next day delivery you go on Amazon sometimes it says we can guarantee this next day if you pay a five and then underneath it it says you will get this free tomorrow by clicking and there's loads of it so I need it I'll pay it I get it if it's something like in that case of a passport site I'm going away and I need that passport so that I can't go having the royal mail basically created an extra tier of payment by being so bad at their job that's it but this is it it's like saying do you want a cup of coffee in Costa yeah if you pay an extra pound I'll get it in four seconds I'll give you a cup 15 seconds earlier and it'll be guaranteed to be warm yeah but you know what I mean it's kind of like things you'd expect surely isn't this like people who pay extra to be in the parking do you know what I mean you're sitting in the parking and you're paying I haven't got any obstructions I was the same crap as the parking okay you know what I mean isn't it the same this isn't really slightly different but you know what kind of boils my piss pass track tickets oh that knows all about hate that I mean there's just something fundamentally wrong about that I think as a human trait whereby you go to the amusement park wherever it is it doesn't matter because they all do it and then you know you're queuing up the queue time is the queue time it might be 40 minutes two and a half hours who knows depends how busy it is and how popular the ride it's become very tiered I was in Disney Palace in what was it October now and I must admit I do get fast passes but it's for a different reason we get one to the queue me and my missus because you think she's just slept you know I am but there was a family and they just went like five all day fast passes and just pulled around this crowd I'd never seen the colour of this kind of credit card before on from the moon and they were like you went five and they were like just passed over the credit and it was just like that's it isn't it Disney you should do this thing where you could get fast passes but everyone was equal they were nothing, they were free you'd all had the same opportunity you could do three in a day that was my plain you joker you got one you couldn't get another one for an hour and all so everyone was kind of equal if you got there early enough if you had a fast pass and I couldn't get one because I'd use one then that's fine there's no issue but now they've introduced Universal Studios in Florida they faced with the express pass and I used to hate the people now Disney have done it you can't even get on rides without it now one is one Dave have you got to go? I've got to go but you know we're going to sub you for a lean at friend over there he doesn't look happy but we're going to sub you anyway so Dave brilliant take it easy oh sorry it was that a review oh yeah well thank you brilliant we'll just let you go now because we'll bring I've got to go right have a lovely weekend okay we're back just before Dave don't know the one I ate have you ever ordered do you ever order tickets for the theatre or gigs and you pay for all and then they go a handling fee what's a handling fee that is another one you've got to handle in the tickets anyway I've paid for these tickets and then just because someone handles them and I don't know what goes on in the handling stage of things I have to pay more money for it you still pay a handling fee even though the centre me fall so what's a handling fee isn't that somebody's job though it's like when you go to America and don't get me wrong I have no issue with tipping but tipping as part of someone's salary is disgraceful and it's become a big thing but I get it pay people properly but we all tip you tip anyway but the reality is if you actually break it down though you're getting paid to do a job why am I giving you more money just to do your job and then you start off going oh should I tip that I feel guilty if I don't tip that and some you know what I mean no I don't mind tipping but the tip you should be when the person saving you was incredible and they were great and you go you know what let's give them a little tip whether they parted it lashed off the bowl there was one who I won't even name them but someone we know went to America recently and they went somewhere and it was basically because there was only two of them it was something like a $20 tip was basically it might have been $40 was put onto their bill and then he asked about it he said we're not saving you then very quickly before we finish that's it cos I've just realised you've got all the stuff there's a question I want to ask Ned how do you feel about not only tipping cos I mean you once famously tipped a street vendor instead of buying people drinks through the gasp in 97 degrees heat in Washington DC in the humidity what do you think about paying exit just to get the job done basically so like you know Ned's on the other side this one cos he does work in the gig that's fine but it's like you're getting paid to play and then it's like do you put a hat out as well in front and go no he's got a hat if people offer me a tip and I'm still playing I'll offer them a song so it's an exchange of goods but what do you think about like Pets just said there pay this activate this five so for you you supposed to be delivering it anyway it's getting delivered anyway I'm always just like I don't need it when I've got it all that extra two days that I waited wasn't actually so bad I ordered this watch last week but why is it just I ordered this watch imagine if it wasn't that I ordered this watch last week and it was five pound delivery did you pay it so I'm going you're telling me it was five pound next day delivery sorry but if I got it next day I would have had it for me for footy game on Thursday what do you need a watch for for footy so I can track me a to buy the watch and have it delivered would it cost you £8 of five pound to buy the watch and have it delivered would it cost you £8 the watch wasn't three quid it was 50 so it would have cost me an extra five pounds and I like my 50 pound watch does what it needs to do and I don't need that silly Samsung one I'm just trying to educate you through life let's finish with this question for Ned because we've got them on where would you land if you could be a fly on the wall don't say any islands where would you land if you could be a fly on the wall can I do that can I do anything can I do anything or did I just listen to things what would you do what do flies do flies don't say nothing star there's one thing flies do which you don't want to land on no that's one thing but if you could go somewhere as a fly and of course you're going to listen that's why you're going that's the whole point of the question you're not going to do stuff do you know what I mean it's really hard because I don't want to find out anything I don't want to really find out I'd go to a random person's house and just get to know them just flying on the royal family and they're all just like they're not random though are they he wouldn't go but you'd go to Dave and bloody tell but haven't you I'd go to a family that all sit in the living room and talk and feel like I'm one of them that's just goggle box that's just goggle box I can't watch goggle box can I I don't want to have Netflix and my fly and you'd what you could do is fly into a room where someone's watching goggle box and you'd see and watch it I'd do that I'd fly into a PC world so if you could go they'd shut it 8 and it's on at 9 I'll switch the telly back on I can still switch the telly hang on so if you could go and be on any wall you would just basically go to either a PC world or just a random family's house so you could be in the room it's not much I can do it's not like I'm a wasp when I can sting someone can I just interject where would you go GCHQ or the head of MI5 MI6 in London this is where me and you this is where me and you this is where me and you they are places where you would learn things about what's going on because they'll see a fly and their instincts because they're like MI5 ages they'll go spy and they'll swat you all I'll say is no swatting no flies were here in the making of this question that's not happening they are people who work for agencies they are part of the service they're not like Mr Miyagi with a pair of chopsticks are they I think you've just gone overboard that's a brilliant one because you would get I'm on a go because it's got an evident theme I'm going into the Premier League I'm going into Little Dickey my office when they discuss an evident because I want to hear how we're discussed I'd hate that but it's information but you can't do anything about it that's a good point that's what I was just thinking but you'd be like you'd be like the little fly in the fly going help me but we're coming back so you're going to go back to the machine where as you will come back front 37th Shell but haven't you and go Dave and Gwen are great and they're the kids nobody should have said if he was like me and you if you could be Ant-Man for the day and you could go and you could be there and go large again that would have helped your situation I think you were more concerned about being an act just a fly and getting swatted you went straight to the negative you went straight to being hate if I was Ant-Man I'd probably commit crimes only lie I just would you could do literally anything you wanted in the last 20 hours anyone who's on toffee tv going to watch around the tower will discover the dark side of the net it's going to be a documentary maybe we'll have a premiere AOB which is just literally the dark side of the net I think you have I think you have the flying you the flying me to the moon and lips me right let's leave it there before he incriminates himself there you go there is too much in it that's us done for the week make sure you like subscribe five star review it share it do all of that stuff and we will see you next week take it easy bye bye