 Well before I even say anything, let me just say Stop for a moment Scroll down just a little bit and take a look at the like to dislike ratio because I can promise you this is not going to be one of my More popular videos if this video gets more likes than dislikes, I will be floored I will literally shit my pants because this is not going to be a very popular topic and I feel like it shouldn't be in Theory that controversial But it is because it involves another popular youtuber Jimmy door So I mean look folks today We are diving headfirst into a shitstorm But I feel like I have to talk about this and I really debated with myself whether or not this was even necessary because I Don't like all the leftist infighting that I see and I've acknowledged that I'm kind of a hypocrite because I've contributed to it Quite a bit, but at the end of the day, I asked myself What is the goal of me even talking about politics? What is my goal as a leftist and If that goal isn't to advance a leftist agenda, then what is the point of all of this if you? If you actually want to move forward, then you've got a you've got a break a few eggs to make an omelette So that's what we're gonna do. That's probably a bad analogy But Jimmy door and I have been friends for a very long time and I have nothing against Jimmy door personally But what he's doing here genuinely is hurting the left so with peace and love I have to respond to what he's doing because I think that some things are more important than egos Then clicks maybe I lose some subscribers some unfollows on Twitter So be it because ultimately at the end of the day if I'm not advancing a leftist agenda If we're moving backwards and not forwards then I failed as a political commentator and this stuff is difficult, right? Having a large platform is really really tricky. You never really fully adjust to it You never fully, you know come to terms with the amount of power that you have with a really popular platform And I'm still learning to grapple with it as well But this is so beyond the pale in terms of what is and isn't responsible for a YouTube commentator Then I have to talk about it. So Jimmy says I interviewed a member of the boogaloo boys I was completely floored when he said he was pro LGBTQ pro black lives matter anti police brutality anti racism anti ice anti war WTF and then he titles the video radicalized Michigan Anarchist seeks unity with the left Now for whatever reason every couple of years We have to remind folks on the left that forming an alliance with fascists and the far right is Not a good idea. I promise you That's not going to serve our interests Are we allowed to talk to these people? Yes, if we challenge them if we try to De-radicalize them so they aren't part of terrorist organizations now just at face value. I see this and I think well If you're all of these things, why are you part of a far right movement that has literally committed acts of terror? The boogaloo boys were part of the effort to kidnap the governor of Michigan Gretchen Whitmer because she imposed COVID lockdowns which saved lives economically speaking They're damaging I can admit that because the federal government hasn't assisted states and they don't have the pocket of the purse But they're necessary to save lives. This is what the boogaloo boys are against So, you know, it's weird to me that Jimmy Doris someone who has advocated for a third party Because the Democratic Party is really really difficult if not impossible to reform I think that is a fine argument, but if you can't work with liberals I promise you you're not gonna be able to work with far-right extremists such as the boogaloo boys now You're gonna say well Mike. I mean he says that he's probably GBTQ pro black lives matter So why can't we work with these folks? In fact in this video this individual? Says that he did security for black lives matter now I don't know about you, but if you followed the black lives matter protests, especially in rural areas of the country I know in Oregon there were some far-right militia members who were quote-unquote doing security at these events But they weren't protecting black lives matter protesters. They were protecting property It didn't seem like you were protecting black lives matter folks as white supremacists yelled at them with bullhorns These experiences, you know were common throughout the country So they're gonna tell you one thing but in actuality their motives say something different So to take this at face value is deeply irresponsible, and I think that Owen Higgins Pointed this out in a really a student analogy. He says I interviewed a scorpion I was completely floored when he said he is pro frog pro not stinging me pro just getting across the river anti-drowning WTF now he's of course referring to the scorpion and the frog analogy where a frog and a scorpion team up to get across the river and the scorpion promises the frog that if he helps him across He's not gonna sting him and then he gets across the river and then the scorpion stings the frog and the frog says Why would you sting me? What the hell you said you weren't going to sting me? Well, the scorpion says that's just what I do We can't take these folks at face value and if we're going to interview them Then it's important that we challenge their beliefs because what you could end up doing wittingly or unwittingly is Propaganda at the behest of these extremist groups and they know what they're doing. These folks are savvy They know how to use social media. They use memes to win people over and as Beth Lynch points out here They lie about their positions in order to garner sympathy. This is from their discord I think publicly throwing our support both verbally and on the streets behind Anti-ice people and sigh black lives matter could produce a huge shift in public opinion at least in the younger generations So, you know, they are lying about their positions This group is agitating towards a civil war and either they want one or they think that one is inevitable like it or not and For everything that you need to know about the boogaloo boys I would recommend a phenomenal video by thought slime where he goes through Everything that we know about the boogaloo boys. This is a loosely ideological Organization, but the underpinnings of it are fascistic and far right They are extremist and they are not folks who we can work with in fact If we tried to work with them and form some sort of red-brown alliance that would hurt us because they're anti government If you want policies like Medicare for all if we're truly leftists and we want reparations for black Americans The government has to be there to facilitate that but what these folks effectively want is no government Anarchy not in the traditional anarchist sense, you know contrary to popular belief They want a failed state type of system where there is no government and that's not what the left needs and wants you have to Understand the way that these groups function and acknowledge that Working with them is completely unacceptable and if you want to form an alliance with them You're doing it by throwing all of your black and brown comrades and LGBTQ comrades under a bus and sure folks like this guy Will claim to be pro LGBTQ plus but as thoughts line points out this group is very strategic They push forward. They're less radical members to make everyone else look better Now Jimmy Dore responded to criticism that he suspected he'd received because after he interviewed this guy Jerry White called him out on it. So he kind of responds to this preemptively. I Presumed this interview that I did with this young man is going to be used to attack me Now if you presumed that this interview would be used to attack you and I don't think this is an attack I think this is a constructive critique then why wouldn't you press him on things? Don't just let him get away with things if he says I'm pro LGBTQ plus. I'm pro black lives matter I don't want a civil war. Wouldn't you ask him? Well, if you're all of these things Why would you be in a far-right group like the boogaloo boys? Don't they seem kind of antithetical to your? purported goals Pushback we're not trying to reach out to them. Of course. We want to make working-class folks Realize that there are class interests that are common But when it comes to far-right extremists the response to them if we're going to associate with these folks is to try to De-radicalize them not work with them as they are as they you know are working against us and This interview is not an endorsement of any group because I don't know it doesn't have to be an endorsement It's apologia. It's propaganda So like it or not They are going to use this interview as evidence that they're not as bad because they just came on this leftist channel So they can't be as bad as everyone claims how representative this person is of an entire group Maybe do some fucking research for just once So I heard him say he was like Jimmy He was against the corporate takeover of our government and he was Value now some people are going to switch this to say Jimmy doors defending boogaloo boy racist white nationalist or whatever I'm not doing that. I don't know about the boogaloo boys specifically. All I know is what that guy told me I'm talking about that guy and so was he So I was talking about my guest on my show Who says he's in the boogaloo boys and he says that you have to be? Not a racist you have to be anti-racist to be in the boogaloo. That's what he was saying So just so you know so I know people are going to twist this and say Jimmy is defending boogaloo And Jimmy's always the victim Jimmy's getting smeared Jimmy door is being censored Even though the YouTube algorithm promotes him far more than anyone else in Indy media and it's really frustrating because Jimmy door knows better He should know better, but I think that the problem as a political commentator Like Jimmy door that he's finding himself in is that he's kind of backed himself into a corner if you Almost always defend Fascists and right-wingers, but are constantly attacking the left Then eventually you attract a certain crowd of people like just a couple of weeks ago He was ruthlessly going after Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and she is not above criticism I think that holding her and the squad accountable is something that we should do as leftists because they have power and Influence and I think that we need to let them know that they are there to fight at the behest of the left-wing movement That's fine, but the response that we see You know when Trump does something bad compared to AOC It's always downplayed by Jimmy door. Well, you know Trump is a symptom of the problem Well, are we gonna talk about the actual like cause of the problems? Are we going to talk about? Capitalism and the way it corrupts both parties and all of our democratic institutions. When do we direct our ire towards the right? When do we actually try to build up our allies who we can work with on things? such as the squad and So getting to you know the audience that you attract I want to go back to a video that I did this is a video That I did back in 2017 about pizza gate where I dismissed pizza gate I like laughed at it because it's fucking stupid and this was the first video where I received intense pushback More dislikes than likes. In fact, I'll add to that And this Took me off guard, right? Because I had just kind of like blown up on YouTube. We weren't even at a hundred thousand subscribers yet, but we were growing their Growing rapidly and so I thought wait, I don't understand Why are people disliking this when this is a conspiracy theory that is absolutely outrageously stupid? How could people be against this and I actually had cognitive dissonance? I thought well, you know what? It has to be that this video is getting Brigaded but that was unlikely because I put it up and immediately there was a lot of pushback so what I ultimately came to the conclusion of was that I Was attracting folks Who believed this? I was you know, it was the election I was dunking on Democrats owning the libs attacking Hillary Clinton relentlessly and as a leftist we like to own the libs This is what we do But the problem is that rather than actually speaking to a left-wing audience I was attracting a lot of right-wingers and conspiratorial folks and they found my channel and they thought that I was one of them And so they rebelled against me when I Went against their narrative now at this point. It was kind of a crossroads for me. What do I do, right? You know, I of course have to own the libs and attack the Democratic Party Because they are part of the problem. They are you know impediments to progress So I have to criticize them. So how do I do this in a way that doesn't? Make me seem as if I am aligned with right-wingers How do I actually change their minds and the way that you do this is you? Take every single video that you do and try to embed it With you know a structural critique Try to embed it with a structural critique and that's why can't I say that fucking word? Embed it with a structural critique and you know try to give folks a really broad picture of what's happening And so very quickly I started to pivot Make sure that when I talk about Democrats and I dunk on Democrats It's not because there's this underlying application that Republicans are better. It's because Capitalism has corrupted our democratic process Capitalism is the lowest common denominator. It's why You know elections have been commodified. It's why political parties have been corrupted It's why even if we were somehow able to get a third party that party within a matter of a decade or so would be corrupted by Capitalism because capitalism is a virus. I Changed the way that I talked about these things because I realized that with this platform I wasn't being responsible enough. I was attracting folks and I thought you know Maybe it's fine that right wingers watch my channel because you know There's a lot of right wingers in the country and I'm just gonna be true to myself but the problem is that I Realized I wasn't actually challenging their flawed belief system I wasn't actually challenging conservatism itself when I criticized neoliberalism and so the overall point that I am saying here is that sometimes our audience can box us into a corner and Had I chosen to just like pander to these folks to appease them that I would have gone down a completely different path Because that's what would you know give me the likes and not the dislikes You know it my audience that I had attracted my right wing audience that I had attracted had incentivized me to you know only criticize Democrats never talk about capitalism never talk about Republicans and I had to make a decision there Do I care more about having a platform and being popular or do I genuinely care about educating folks? and I hope that you guys can see that I have made an effort to Deprogram right wingers not just tell them everything that they want to hear and so I I'm talking about this because when it comes to Jimmy Dorr, I want him with peace and love To actually ask himself because I'm assuming he's gonna see this video Am I contributing to the left-wing movement? Who am I helping more? the enemies or my allies and I've had an issue with Jimmy Dorr Not assisting left-wing allies and comrades Enough for quite some time. We've been friends for a while and back in the Carlos Mazza days behind the scenes him and I had very long conversations and Him and I you know disagreed about what should be done with harassment of Carlos Mazza with regard to Steven Crowder Steven Crowder Should not be able to monetize hate videos. I think that it's justified for him to be Demonetized and Jimmy Dorr actually came to that same conclusion Although I was the one labeled pro censorship, but that's neither here nor there But what I tried to do was explain to Jimmy Dorr during that time that even if you disagree with Carlos Mazza's assertion That you know Steven Crowder should be de-platformed you can disagree with that But what we need to hear as a straight ally as a gay man What I want to hear is you unequivocally denounce Steven Crowder and we had this conversation Jimmy Dorr seemed to really take what I was saying and internalized it and appreciated the advice that I gave him as His gay friend and then the next Saturday on his live stream. Well, what does he do? He spends like an hour hour and a half completely bashing Carlos Mazza Criticizing Carlos Mazza because in his Twitter bio it says Tucker Carlson is a white supremacist He is a white supremacist And then just completely giving Steven Crowder a pass and the excuse that I remember that really pissed me off was Oh, well, I don't know anything about Steven Crowder. This guy's an asshole But you took the time to research Carlos Mazza Lgp2 creators and it's miserable to have that same company helping facilitate a truly mind-melting amount of direct harassment Really? Is this what you're complaining? It's not funny My family sees this shit. Oh really really You're about the families in the 85,000 kids that have been killed in Yemen. What about those families really? Really This guy what a snowflake this fucking guy is I'm being bullied Carlos Mazza So in this instance if you step back and look at the contribution that Jimmy Dorr made to left discourse in the left movement he kind of gave homophobia a pass and Criticized Carlos Mazza all because he couldn't get over the fact that Carlos Mazza called for deplat forming something that Jimmy You know disagreed with so there was no nuance there you can't say well, I disagree with that but homophobia is wrong and harassing someone using gay slurs is wrong and so we move forward to you know Deplatforming Donald Trump getting deplatformed off of Twitter Now a lot of folks online will claim that they are a pro free speech But they don't really know what free speech is I think there's a really important conversation to be had about the influence that big tech has on our lives and We need anti-trust laws to be utilized to the fullest extent we need to break up these platforms Nationalize them if necessary try to regulate them as public utilities. So that is a different conversation But free speech does not include one's ability to incite a riot and that's what Donald Trump did and there were consequences for that Not necessarily with regard to government cracking down on him, but private corporations cracking down on him and so a lot of folks Went to bat for Donald Trump Jimmy Dorr included. They said this was a bad move And that's fine. If you are principled and you agree Kyle Kalinsky, I think is the most principled person on Left-tube when it comes to deplatforming But Kyle Kalinsky unlike everyone else actually defends left-wingers speaks out when the serfs was deplatformed the same folks Who deplat who were mad that Trump got deplatformed on the basis of principle said nothing about the serfs Getting a video demonetized and when I spoke out about, you know, the serfs getting demonetized Folks use that as an example that I will see it comes back to bite you in the ass. You call for censorship It's gonna affect the left except that's Correlation doesn't equal causation and These are two very very different things very different things The serfs did not incite a riot The serfs was covering a video about Paul Joseph Watson that was within YouTube's terms Observice and that video was Falsely, I believe pegged as like being pro far right or whatever So I got taken down and it was reinstored, but the response is never to defend Left-wingers when they're deplatformed. It's just to use left-wing deplatforming as an example that right-wing deplatforming is Bad So I asked myself and I made this point in a video that I didn't post because I don't want to like Fend the flames. I don't want to like stir up controversy because that's not why I made this channel I made this channel because I believe in leftist policies and I want to advance that agenda And I try to censor myself if I feel as if I'm not advancing that agenda But I made a point that I want folks to listen to in this unreleased video because I think it's something that we all Need to ask ourselves and I'm asking myself this question as well. I mean podcast hosts. I think you all know who I'm talking to I'm very very specifically talking to one Segment a cluster of podcast hosts and their viewers who all the time it seems as if most of the time They're always criticizing the squad AOC but on top of that they never criticize Republicans never criticize Donald Trump never criticize Fox News and OAN. It's always the left They're always punching left and I've got to ask myself if all of this if we step back and look at this and Look at the Aggregate contribution that they are giving to the cause of leftism It seems as if their contribution is a negative contribution. It seems as if they don't really want us to succeed How do we actually achieve progress? Do we want to even achieve progress? It's a legitimate question or are we just Trying to you know, get people mad because that's what keeps them coming back Watching us. That's what keeps us, you know motivated. It's the glue that holds us together I'm asking earnestly. I'm asking because I want to know Where some people stand and so this is something that I ask people to do earnestly Not to like make it seem as if I'm the most purest leftist because we're all human beings We all fuck up from time to time and I hope that Jimmy door does this and does some soul-searching because the path that he's on Is not a good path. It looks like he is following in the footsteps of Dave Rubin Where in like a year or two, we're gonna see a video about him Why I left the left. I mean The problem is that you can't just like continually throw a grenade and left his circles and And then expect us to see you as an ally when it comes to the force the vote thing I was on board with Jimmy doors plan to force the vote for Medicare for all. I still think that was a good idea I'm disappointed that that that plan did not come to fruition But I was really taken aback when I saw Jimmy door use my support of force the vote To like bash AOC even a human support turned against you in a viral video that we all saw No, I didn't turn against her. I would like her to utilize this strategy But if she disagrees with this strategy that doesn't make her a sellout It doesn't mean that she doesn't support Medicare for all But Jimmy door chose to burn bridges with allies and Shows to perpetuate this idea that anyone who disagrees With Forcing the vote they must be against Medicare for all when this is the same individual who endorsed Tulsi Gabbard and Gave her a softball interview when she moved away from Medicare for all Saying oh well, you know what? She is being really strategically savvy here because you know if we Don't get rid of private insurance Which is key to the success of Medicare for all because those capitalist forces are like a virus that will eat away at our single-payer system But nonetheless if he said basically if we don't get rid of private insurance, then we're kind of defanging The Republican argument well, you know how we completely like escape criticism from Republicans just do what they want Like that's not the point of fighting for policy So like I'm not saying that Jimmy door isn't a fighter of Medicare for all But where was he when we needed him when I criticized Tulsi Gabbard for moving away from Medicare for all and was called a sellout Because I criticized Tulsi Gabbard who has truly gone mask off and shown her true colors You know so it's really frustrating because I feel like leftist discourse right now is really fucked up and you have a split Due to what may be irreconcilable differences. I don't know but here's what I'm gonna say I will never align with fascists no solidarity with us with the far right no solidarity with fascists and if your collective contribution to the left and left discourse is to more often than not Assist and defend the right more so than leftist comrades and allies Then either you are wittingly or unwittingly working against the interests of the left And it's time to do some soul-searching and I hope that Jimmy door does some soul-searching and acknowledges that this Ain't it This isn't it. I care about these things and if Saying this like makes me unpopular on the left which it won't because true leftists don't believe we should align with fascists But if saying this like makes me lose subscribers. I don't give a shit. I Care more about the movement and the policies that I want like Medicare for all ending wars Black Lives Matter black liberation LGBTQ plus trans rights. I care more about all of that than this dumb-ass YouTube channel I'm gonna use this platform as long as I possibly can to promote good to promote leftist ideas But every once in a while, you know, maybe we don't do a good job and we've got to recalibrate Maybe we attract folks who think That we are meaning things that we don't mean Maybe we attract right-wingers if we never actually criticize the right wing and only dunk on Democrats and own the Libs all I'm saying is that This is I think a turning point and leftist discourse online and we're kind of a niche little thing but still You know this This shouldn't be a thing that we have to revisit every couple of years Of course, we can't work with with fascists Of course, we can't work with far-right terrorist organizations. We should be trying to help our allies not the people Who are against our existence So I'll leave that there I feel like I was rambling and didn't make a lot of sense throughout the course of this my thoughts are kind of scrambled, but I Just felt like I needed to speak out and get myself on the record because I genuinely believe that years from now We'll look back at this moment as a turning point and either Jimmy door is going to be more responsible with a gigantic platform that he has and actually Try to do a good job at promote leftism and not attack the left constantly or You know, he'll be doing some Prager you videos, you know going on Dave Rubin show talking about why the left is terrible So yeah, that's it