 DJ Bird, like he tried it once, he tried it twice, man. He just, he ain't got the, DJ Bird took me out there, we was drinking, shout out to DJ Bird, Crazy Horse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Had a beer called Crazy Horse. Yeah. Being Horse owner. Yeah, I remember that. Oh man, we got out there, he put them cables on me, I come back in there, man, like a boy, who in here? Who, who, who? What, what? I went in, I just let my energy go, man. Right until you came to you for re-elected solid gold snowflakes with that honey, gross and tight it in the sheets. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one, one on one. Yeah, we gonna talk. Right, right. So, this front, back, side, to side, man, you know, that's one right there for the record. Like you, how was it like even putting that song together? Right until you came to you for re-elected solid gold snowflakes with that honey, gross and tight it in the sheets. I got a gig. I gotta thank God for DJ Bird. That's something that we can do. Shout out to DJ Bird. Shout out to DJ Bird, man. Smitty, I'm sorry, y'all couldn't make it, bro. But we gonna keep moving. I didn't know what Pym was doing to me at the time. He was tricking me in the training. Like, I don't know how he did it. He never liked anything. I was like, oh, that's boobo. That's what the same thing Boosie said. Say everything you got wasn't good enough. Nah, that man ain't jamming. You know, he just had that way about it. But the kind of love he showed me though. You know what I mean? And as I watched that ain't grow because you ought to understand before any of the stuff materializing grew, I was there. It's like stuff I forgot. And so, we were in New Orleans. Ira Bures was his name, I believe. I don't know what to do. Gumbo Funk Studio, who was that? Some studio situation. I think I've heard that name before. Yeah, and they had all the executives, like I said on other interviews, they had the tags in there playing games, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, for one reason or another, they had me in a corner situation and they was like talking to me. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about? Like, they was trying to make a deal with Pimp. He snapped out. Y'all get away from blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, Willie went off, the bird. Oh, Smoke, we gonna do it. Pimp wants you to come in and do it first. Oh, first. I went in there and I was like, you know, like Pippi Long's talking, tight white interior, you know what I mean? So, DJ Bird, like he tried it once, he tried it twice, man. He just, he didn't got the DJ Bird to me out there. We was drinking. Shout out to DJ Bird, Crazy Horse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had a beer called Crazy Horse. Me and Horse on it. Yeah, I remember that. Man, we got out there, he put them cables on me. I come up in there, man, like a boy, what a hit. Who, who, who, who? What a, what a, you know what? I went in, I just let my energy go, man. Tight white interior, candy after we're elected. Solid gold snowflakes with that honey gloss and tighter than the sheets. And then it turned into a hit for them for us. It was, it was great. Yeah, and I owe all of that to DJ Bird, remember, because he is really like the glue. He still is and was like the glue to everybody. Every situation, he just brought happiness and love to it. You know what I'm saying? My trip, yeah. That's crazy. I was working as an A&R for Atlantic Records, right? And Pimp had just came home. T.I. was working on the album. And my camera was like, man, what can we do for T.I. knowing UGK to get it like this? I said, let's get them to redo a UGK song. Right? Right? Check it out. Check it out. I was man, bro. I was talking about stroking some work, you know what I mean? I said, man. So the guy with Pimp, they got Manifrest to redo front, backside, and side. Got both of them on the song, you know what I mean? And that's crazy. Wow. Like in real time, like right now, I just gotta shake it in, because they got me a chin. I already know. I already know. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Once I realized what I could be utilized for, I was able to do that at Atlantic Records, but I know better. I know what everybody got paid, smoke. Okay. I know what the budget was, smoke. He didn't know a lot of people. I introduced him to Gucci. I was able to make moves for my people to get check stroke to him. That's all. That's what it's about, bro. That's what it's about now. And like I'm just listening in this interview, the key point and the key thing that I call because I'm more of an observer than the Taliban. Communication. For sure. Communication. If we can learn how to do that properly, then we can express ourselves in a more direct way. And you know what I mean? More than just text message out of fast super information. You know, put the phone down sometimes. That's it. That's it. Tritot, what you know about Pini, man? Let's go on. You started out with Big Boy, right? Big Boy, right? I started out actually with, I started out actually with a brother of mine named Musa. He didn't yet have a label for his, I mean a name for his label. But Big Boy was my first independent success. Yes, yes he was, right. Wow. Go ahead, man. Like from there, like you kind of, you transferred, like you went to, I think it was no limit after that, like it was, there's one there friend who was there, was it your 2000? No, no, no. It was not May 5th, 1998. 1998, yeah. Yeah, and when you came up with that, like it was a change. Like I seen like a really kind of, you and Miskul kind of like y'all kind of bleeded together like a little bit, like I don't solve together like the Snoop. Yeah, that's crazy. When I got the Big Boy records, Miskul pulled me in the back of the Chuck, the owner of Big Boy Records. He pulled me in the back of his house and he realized I was a new guy at Big Boy Records. He enjoyed the baddest motherfucka last single. I remember, I'll never forget this. He had the nylon undershirts they give from Soul Train, you heard me? He had some cackies on, he was like, he rolled a little joint. He's like, man, man, you gonna run this thing, dog, you remember telling your dog, you crazy, I heard your single, man, man, you about to run this thing. And I was like, just met him my first time meeting him, right? I was like, I'm bruh. So we ran it and that was that. The Big Boy Records, I couldn't get it off like I wanted to. Scythe gave me the production that he can give me at the time, but I know we could have went more in depth. Yeah, that's what I said, that's why I asked about the mystical thing, cause I knew he was over there too. And then I was like, how did that, you know, like from y'all transferring over and then y'all like rejoining back when y'all got there. I was helping, believe it or not, I was like bringing tracks and instrumentals in and I liked this and Scythe might like it. And every once in a while, let me be wrong, he did his own thing. But certain things I was discovering, like, you know, I had A&R potential then picking out tracks. I did writing where whoever me needed writing for at the time, however to play my part, not a hundred percent of the bodies, but just, you know, increments of stuff. I know what you mean.