 It's got all the fundamentals based around it and it it's what advances me to create like my guitars and stuff like that So when I have a large tube, I'll pull a section off and make a handle off to the point I use about a three and a half to four inch section You'd start off, you know in your middle section go to your neck Once it's all heated you do your neck stretch followed by shaping your mouthpiece And then you go over and shape your bull head afterwards Once you have your bull head shaped you go and do your bull push for Yeah, do your bull push Any kind of dots or styles a little grip that you want on the side and then very last I use a carb and then flatten the bottom of the bowl I've made thousands and thousands of kill-ems, pipes and such like that and Every day or week when I go into a new bag I learn something new Depending on what it is. I'll either put it in the kiln or take it off and make take it off the handle right there