 Yeah, pigs are really intelligent like dogs and here we we'll give you this booklet on here if you go to cubertruth.com we just advocate that people don't eat animals or use animals or wear them because this is what they have to go through so you can do like a 22-day vegan challenge it's it's on the website 22-day vegan challenge and you get assigned a mentor and they help you Yeah respect animals that's what we're about respecting them like I used to eat meat, dairy eggs only three and a half years ago bacon and eggs for breakfast big massive T-bones every night I thought it was really macho but I was like wait a second like I might not love animals but I don't want to see them get hurt you know like I love my dogs and I care for animals and put the doggy here you know we love our dogs we love our pets but these animals they've got the capacity to be just like our pets they feel pain they suffer they want live in peace they don't want to be hurt you know and we just we're relentless and we show them no mercy we just kill them you know you know what you're looking at or are your farmers that doesn't necessarily mean you I don't want to sell the go vegan message but I can see what that's not the way to do things yeah for the end of the day we can't control what happens in the slaughter house to them can we I think I choose we said that that is that's not what I want to be part of I still want to be part of I want to be very much part of a meat industry but I don't want to be part of that that's not that's easy they come hand-in-hand though we can't avoid it like we got how many billions of people we've got on there if we're going to treat every animal kindly and caress them before we slip that throat open like I don't know if it's possible like it's not possible yeah it means nothing for the animal though making it better like this at the end of the day they still got a bolt gun in the head we would have not get ready even at all so you have that they actually not get bread so there's no well well then we keep them in your allies that we send we grow them to for two years and we send them to a slaughter house we don't agree with that just breeding them for to make money off their backs we would say is like there's a lot of other lucrative industries for farmers like plants or like soy beans or soy milk and they're taking over now like they started to take over this new industries that we could have a land with no animals on but you could cultivate some type of crop where there's because now that this plant-based industry is getting bigger people aren't don't want to buy animals that have gone to a slaughterhouse like no matter how you guys don't dispute that you guys treat animals well but when they say we put them on that truck we send them to the slaughterhouse you know me there's no controlling what happens to them they get chopped up into a million pieces we think the animals deserve a life without like a dog if we put dogs in there you know you know that animals are intelligent yeah you know how smart they are and when we take their children away from them when they're when they're so dairy farmers they take that they cough away the cows bellow out for months it's so we know there's a sentient animal inside there's there's someone inside there we never we're never going to agree but I don't want that I don't I don't want that then it's not you don't you still agree with killing them is okay I don't know but in your heart do you think taking their life no matter how we do it is okay like it's our job to take their life away from them it's okay for us if we're gonna eat their bodies when we don't necessarily need to there's no necessity for me in our diet like we can live happy healthy without it you can't be happy without me yeah I used to love the taste of it too I'm not gonna say I didn't I used to have really big t-bones nearly every night but like I think like it does my taste outweigh their life like I think it's pretty it was it I felt like I was being a bit I don't know like like selfish in the way that my taste buds meant more than their their whole life that the only one they get and you know we sort of give them their own destiny don't we we're like I know you want to say something you've got something that you really want to say but we can agree that it's wrong to take their life we can agree on that we can agree wrong to take their life they're away that a practical and that are painful like not in front of each other like not showing it in front of each other so we could do this practically on a huge scale like seven billion people want me you think we did this is why we've got factory farms yeah even the chicken industry so allow 40 to 60 thousand in the shed but even the chicken industry now that allowed their free range chickens but free range chickens get to do and from the countryside and still lay eggs and still be killed for me but you know there's no um there's no legal framework as to that pertains to what free range actually is I know they're so that they can call it free range and it's not free range that's something we need to fix there things we need to fix I think there's one there's a solution that fixes all of it which is leave them alone like we're trying to find animals so then either you have no animals because they're going to die eventually like they're going to die so they're still going to die of old age well then it's better than breeding like if they were better than breeding them into existence for this fate that they have I think that that what we're doing is morally wrong we're playing God we're genetically modifying these animals we're breeding them into existence so we can slit their throats and eat their bodies others think that from the animal standpoint we are there we are the oppressor like think of it from the cow's perspective you know how intelligent they are yeah they're like big puppy dogs I've known farmers boom go vegan and then try out something try farming something else because it's going to be a big soy milk industry that the plant-based industry is getting huge I would I would I grow I don't grow soybeans yeah I don't grow them yeah what I know about soybeans I would worry more about feeding my child soy than I would feeding them meat we know we've brought it up we've loved it so health wise yes we've fed it we know what we fed it and then we kill it for our children at a reasonable age not a view it's not as a lamb but at a reasonable age it's lived a good life on our farm it's lived a happy life on our farm and the meat tastes better because of all of that the meat tastes better yeah absolutely because of the way that you do meat if you treat meat well you treat it animal well treat the animal well so what do your children like seeing an animal get slaughtered do that or they they wouldn't like it so we're saying like we don't see what think it's it's against our nature is kind compassionate human beings to do this to animals and we're doing it because we've been programmed over time to like to taste the meat to think that you know killing them is okay because it's obviously ingrained into our culture isn't it like I mean as a farmer you'd know it's been passed down through tradition and through our family comes very much through the respect side you've got it you've got to respect but yeah and yeah do you think a knife in the throat is respect or there's not an animal that we kill yeah that doesn't what we shoot them they don't know about it I know that you don't I know you don't agree with animal cruelty that's obvious by the way that you're watching this but 99% of people don't get their meat from your happy cows you would you agree with that yeah I I wish somebody would fight to sell the argument factory when you do anything and that that's our capacity the factory farm so wrong I could yeah we have to we can I could I could quite happily feed a hundred families when I do it but but the system doesn't matter to me it says I've got to feed a thousand and for me to feed a thousand I can't do I cannot do it you can't if you want to be 10,000 you have you have an animal has to be how much land how much water that I drink you know how much resources you know how much cows drink how much fresh water they drink yeah we got 56 billion land animals on earth at the moment they're drinking our resources that we're feeding all the 50% of the grain is going to feed livestock we can't have grass-fed cattle for everyone you know what I'm saying so like this industry is causing problems in all areas livestock only drink the water that falls on our property all the water they drink falls on our property we don't describe anybody of water but I just the argument that I wish people would push much more is we need to farm animals it I want to farm animals there's people that want to buy meat for me there's people that I honestly don't believe that we can feed the planet just on grains why not because not on just grains we've got grains fruits vegetables seeds nuts we can cultivate them we're cultivating enough to feed 56 billion land animals we can feed the world 10 times over I honestly believe that cultivation cultivating the soil is significantly worse for the earth livestock are eating the grains that's what we're saying so without livestock a lot of cultivation wouldn't have to happen we just have enough for us they're chopping down the rainforest to go soybeans to feed to cattle that's because we eat meat it's not because you know you've got a farm where you do things differently that's fine it might be a little bit I've heard grass-fed cattle produces more methane gas so it's worse for the ozone I've heard that the catamara gives that is catalytic grass grass turns carbon dioxide we are from as far as we can establish we're more than carbon neutral what we produce is offset by what the way we farm our land we don't burn any residuals on it we try to do things properly so you're the exception not the rule no there are a lot of farms yeah but you're the exception not the rule if somebody could argue and you would do it very patiently that doing it as a factory farm that is not the way we have done things but they weren't in cakes where did they go afterwards they had to go to a commercial they go to a slaughterhouse most of that I could see in there is actually in the breeding site but a lot of that is the cruelty that happens in the housing in farming and that is so not on you don't agree that my position is the most humane way not stabbing them in the throat, not bolt gunning them in the head not shooting them just letting them be or not breeding them into existence not playing God with these animals' lives humane? the most humane method is not eating them or things that come out of them just leaving them be like I don't think you can humanely take someone's life who wants to live if they've got a good life on your farm to rob them of their life is even more of an injustice but from the cow's perspective you've got to see it from their eyes we don't look at it from our eyes it's different things look differently from our eyes we're eating them, they taste good from the cow's perspective they don't want to be eaten they don't want to be killed put a gun to their head they will be scared is it not a cow on their farm that I can pat? will everyone come to me when I call it? no they must love you we don't drive cattle and I have had so it must hurt you to take their life from them to shoot them in the head it does not make me happy it's telling you something but that makes it a good thing if it doesn't make him happy because that means that it's actually where the animal to do the right thing I don't think it's a good thing I think it's a moral dilemma for you it's a bit of a moral dilemma for you no, that is I so you don't eat meat from anywhere else only the cows that you shoot in the head yourself you won't go anywhere that's what we're saying it's not practical for people to always eat meat and just eat from the one cow that they shot in the head I could we could make it so much better I don't think we can on the scale that we're eating meat I don't think there's a possible way we can produce as much meat as we want to eat in a humane way and I don't think you can take an animal's life from them humanely we've got to think about different life we've got to think differently now you are obviously very passionate man you wouldn't be giving up your time for colour but I would just be so cautious of believing that soy is an alternative protein to be there is so much there is a lot of evidence of the manipulation that's happened to soy I would say what about beans lentils we grow beans and lentils I don't think there is a corruption in those that there is so soy is not an argument against what we're saying if you don't want to eat soy you don't have to but there's alternatives there are alternatives soy should not I will definitely not feed it I haven't seen the science behind that pooling all the results soy food intake after breast cancer diagnosis was associated with reduced mortality meaning a longer life span and reduced recurrence so less likely the cancer comes back anyone who says otherwise hasn't cracked a journal open in seven years most of the soy is used to fed to cattle that people eat there is a lot of soy used beans and lentils there's a documentary called if you go on there you might not want to see anything else but if you go on there there's a documentary called what the health I recommend watching it and what they do is they basically present the science so it's basically scientific consensus now that saturated fat and cholesterol cause heart disease this isn't a hidden thing in the scientific community and that cholesterol is only found in animal products grass fed organic animal products still contain saturated fat and cholesterol so you're obviously a very intelligent man and there are studies that say that human development has only happened since we've been eating more calories through meat we ate more calories because we could scavenge for meat there but that doesn't mean we need to do that now in this day and age we've got supermarkets they're the enemy thanks so much for your chat thanks for looking after these cows but I just say at the end of the line don't shoot them in the head please