 Today we're talking volume six chapter three We have Eddie Rivas our law expert for Ruby that we're gonna interview and of course that special segment of next week's episode We will be answering community questions that y'all have submitted using Ruby Roo as the hashtag This is Ruby Rewind Welcome out to another episode of Ruby Rewind. I almost said Rewind. It's always that happens. Yeah, you know, it's been a long weekend But I'm super happy to be here. My name is Chad James. I'm Ellie Mayne and I am Jackie Izawa And before we get started because we have a lot to talk about today I just wanted to give a quick thank you to ExpressVPN for sponsoring this episode We will have a little bit more on them later on in the show. Also as always we like to be an interactive show We're using some you know fancy technology called megaphone Which means you guys can kind of play along to the questions we ask so head to roosterteeth.com forward slash play We're gonna have a question that we throw out to you guys just a little bit later So throw that open in a new tab and get it ready. We're pretty fun here. We are so much fun Ellie Whoa guys, so we got a ton to talk about we've got too much to talk about we're not gonna I think we're gonna barely scratch the surface, but yeah, we're gonna do our best. Yes, don't just get right into it Yeah, let's go. Let's go. So whoa, okay a beautiful beautiful Dump of law really and it was presented like in such a nice way and like oh, they did an amazing job Yeah with the miss that just kept adding elements and removing things and like man It was definitely like super super immersive and very very very pretty Congratulations to the crew B that yeah, that was an undertaking and they absolutely crushed it Yeah, that was an amazing episode to watch and it's not an episode that you can only watch once There's because you're gonna miss something like you definitely have to make sure that you watch it at least four or five times To get everything out of it. She's already got her checklist. I know questions. We'll answer things. Yeah I know a lot of the people came out of last week saying Ospin is definitely definitely Salem's dad Ospin Salem's dad. Nope. Otherwise that have been real weird. Yeah It's a very old fairy tale Yeah, lovers romantically entwined yeah for all eternity. Yeah, and man, I'll tell you what like Salem She just really screwed over the world didn't she yeah? Yeah, not not a nice lady Yeah, pretty much out for herself there I was I was so set on the fact that she was pure and innocent and just Like of like a kind heart and I was so wrong to not call great See like I thought it was gonna get cursed that she was gonna do something She's gonna get cursed and that's what led her to do that But she was just like straight out the gate like God of light. You're not gonna bring it back. Wow That's not fair. Yeah, I'm gonna go to your brother. She's gonna play them dragon brothers against each other I know mean which I favorite dragon because God of light. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I like I love that design of the dragon with a little useless feet. Yeah It was very much like an Eastern and a Western inspired dragon. Yeah, that's pretty cool Yeah, but so Did kind of blame against each other and that was one thing I appreciated like They're you know these opposite forces, but they are brothers and like so, you know, of course the dark ones like Oh, you finally came to me first. You finally no one goes to my brother. Yes I will give you this thing And so, you know, they have their little confrontation But what I did appreciate was the fact that the other brother like normally they're like so committed to be like I'm anti you Oh, just agree with whatever you say. He's like, sorry, bro. She came to me first. He's like, I am so yeah This happens. I'm stuck in my pool of darkness. Everyone goes to you. I'm a little jealous Let me just nuke this dude real fast. We good. I yell at you. I'm sorry about it Like told you off for coming into my house my bad. Let me just write me wrong here Yeah, and talk about traumatizing Salem. How many times did Oz die in her arms the first time for reals and then twice For funsies, could you imagine that like imagine what made her snap, right? Imagine like your favorite puppy died And it's getting brought back in front of you and then taken away again. It was a John Wick situation Pretty much But man, I'll tell you what see I was like kind of like I appreciate that with the God of darkness Like, you know, he might be that force, but you know, their nature needs that balance So like I can understand where he's coming from. Oh, but then oh, but the obliteration of mankind Firstly that was like a super amazing moment. Yeah, it's just like oh cablamo but Well, I like can you imagine? Yeah, like everything was just gone Then you're left alone to wander the face of the world of the earth Also, just imagine being one of those people cuz like well, yeah You're just going about your day living your life in your happy world of magic and everything's great What do you think that could be coming towards this world? Annihilation because one lady was really upset. Yeah, it was like, oh, yeah, I'll teach you a lesson And what's so funny is I was like, oh man, they killed all the armies, too I'm like they really like taught a lesson there and then I was like, oh and the neighboring town Everything I was like man that must have sucked to been in that blast radius. Yeah, and then the you know darkness guys Everyone look what you did and it's a super your fault And there was no sympathy. There was no compassion. There was no sympathy. She's just she's lost cause I loved that line He was like when they were leaving and she's sorry I'm not feeling so good now. Oh, yeah It's not good when they were leaving it was one of my favorite lines of the whole thing And she was like now come back and he goes the God of darkness is like are you still demanding things from us? Wow? Yep, and then pieces up that's his last word to humanity like God says just nothing. There's no good in you No, and we're off. Yep, and good luck. Sorry about you. And we're gonna take out half the moon over Chad like just started running over as much as you like I think we cared more about the moon than the rest of mankind Well, I know it's because that's true I didn't have a bigger reaction It's just because like you got that answer because it did that shot from behind the moon I literally was like this is how the moon blew up like right and then it hits and then it happens It was like yes, yeah We know and then also why remnants called remnant Yep, because it's the room like the remnant of the world that once was and you had a very interesting theory about dust I do I'm very excited about my theory I also also I stole it from someone else from Twitter and I will remember your name and I'll look you up but that That dust is like fragments of people of the people who could do magic that God like obliterated and Dust is like obviously because it's like they have to mine it right so many many thousands of years of past We assume and so it's like the the remains of the people that once were that could do magic that now We mine up and make little dust particles from so dust is magical people ash Gross, right? It is that makes the she's awful people. Well, they don't know anything But I mean this is also just my theory and I guess we burn dinosaur bones I get around right so like right it's like the remnant version of that of fossil fuels Maybe if we can ever see that engine that Guys really need to get like the Teslas of dust Faunus mask Yeah, that would be a cool thing if it's true, but that's just my slash the person I stole it from the idea How do you guys would feel if that is true? She has to feel something. I mean, how do we feel about using dinosaurs and things? We're kind of okay until we found out it was gonna bite us like but that's super dead It's not like if it was like like matrix farms of of magic people again. That would be cool speaking of super dead They brought back Osma the god of light that was like a parting gift and like listen up I'm kind of sorry about my brother like I'm gonna out existence. So like I'm gonna send you back I'm gonna really make this your problem because I'm off If you want to get these four things from wherever I done hid them, you know, do you want to go back to the world? Maybe yeah, I like who's like, um, no, I Don't well turns out your lady's not dead either So we want to skedaddle back. Oh, if you could just deliver all bad news Yeah, bad news. Yeah, not dead. Nope In fact, it's I love that he didn't tell her it's her fault. They didn't tell him it's her fault for everything I neither did she right. This is what communicate in your relationships. Oh my god I communicate after you've had children when you could just blast magic at each other, right? The three of us were watching that, you know, they're beautiful reunion side note Really glad they didn't cover her in veins for like, you know, that she's not at that point Yeah, because like that would have been way less believable that he would see him be like, oh my one true love But we were all thinking like why don't they tell each other their stuff They need to tell each other their baggage and they didn't and it led to their undoing It did in front of the children. So they had four girls. Yes, of course, you know A lot of theories are going around like are those the maidens But did they actually die we saw they didn't work out so well for that little stuff dog. No, I think I think we were led To assume that the children met their demise But we've learned many things from the show and if they don't die on camera. I don't believe it That's true Sometimes if they look like they super do die on camera don't believe it either. That's true And so yeah, like we you know, I've been kind of like went off I was like, I'm just gonna live my life and whatever and he started to learn how to Bond with the people that he was inhabiting and like he had that one touching moment where they had raised Another family. Yeah, it was really quick. But was it another four girls? I don't think so I think I saw like a wife and like two kiddies I didn't think they were four saw the wife, but I didn't know if there was four girls I was thinking about all the other stuff that's going on. I do want to go back and check that because I'm wondering if Ospin so the kids could do magic because Ospin and Salem together, right, you know made the magical children It's still if he's inhabiting then because he was in another body when that happened, correct So apparently his magic goes along with that. Yes So he's probably like over a lot of lifetimes. They had a family like there's got to be some other magical users I might not be full magic users, but like some of that's got to get in there Well, yes, so you what you think that he had many many other children who perhaps have have gained some of that magical quality Yeah, ooh, I have another theory. What's that silver eyes? Is that magic do we think is that could that be part of it? My brains. I'm my I just freaked my own beam. Yeah There's still a lot of answers we got we got a lot of answers this episode, but there's still a Every answer we got the one with one another question was created. Oh, yeah I know there's so much that I want to know, but I'm so happy like just getting to know the backstory It's really cool. Oh, it's so cool the tale of these gods and knowing that like I think the reason there's a fly by the way So if you see like we're just a jerk moment like we're trying to And so like it's cool to know that I Think the reason that he's been hiding these relics He doesn't want them to come together because he doesn't feel that humanity is ready to be judged or Pachance, he's trying to give Salem time to come around Because he knows that she would not survive such judgment Because she's bad. She's bad egg. All right. Well, we'll see what happens. We know he can't can't destroy her But that's very limited. Yeah, so maybe she doesn't mean she cannot be just talking about getting her dipped in the pool of good No one's trying that yet bad did bad. Give her a good give her another good bath. There you go What happens there? Maybe she just needs a good bath. Hopefully we'll find out in the next episode We got a lot of stuff coming up. 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Thanks Express VPN and now Right before we get into the community segment I do want to let you guys know I can't tune in a little bit late if you guys are watching live or just decided to jump in halfway through a video because you're feeling Wild today head to roosterteeth.com slash play and you can participate in our megaphone poll Which we'll be pulling up here in just a second and the question this week is what was the best part of the This massive Lord dump. We got Salem and Oz back story God of light and darkness the moon That's my already Yeah, so again roosterteeth.com slash play open open a new tab and you guys can answer what you feel and we'll pull That back up at the end of the community segment Alright enough of the community segment me saying it Jackie. Let's get into it. Let's go first one. Yes Okay Here we go What if a better question is how do we save Salem due to the fact that she cannot be destroyed by time is fleeting? Oh ever so hopeful time is fleeting I know that made me feel like a bad person because I was like I didn't even consider that we were just thinking about How could we destroy? If we can't destroy her how can we incapacitate her, you know, it's like, oh wait. No, it's that's right What can we save her? That's probably a safe. I'm already so angry at her. I just don't want her to be saved That's right. You're ruthless. I oh what me? I'm ruthless. Look what she did Yeah, it's a mankind and the moon on top of that. That's true. I'm not no Let's have a look here We've got from at melody medley if she's the wicked witch of the West couldn't they dump her in the lake of the Creation garden get rid of the bad, you know say I'm so I'm saying A good love to fix his witches please let please let that always and forever be the term good back Give her a good bath. She's had a good bath and a bad bath. So she needs a good bath Hashtag good bath like her work and as long as it's we know that it let us pin can't do it. So That's true And the next question comes from 3021 so with what we learned from today's episode do you guys think Ospin is justified in his actions so far. How how is crow going to react? I don't know why he had to lie about it. I Mean I other than that he's trying to save that he's trying to save them I think I think he also probably feels bad about being convinced into becoming the gods of the world You know like I feel like he knows he's charged with this responsibility of like making everyone better And then like you know bringing everyone back to be judged and it said he just kind of like Had his little you know time with Salem and they were kind of doing their own thing and then she's like let's be gods And it was like okay There's a bit of the coerced by the by the one-ring situation Made me think of that when they were like but the men's hearts are easily changed Yeah, there's definitely some telltale signs of like crazy and evil, you know popping up You got a watch out for those warning signs a megalomania. It's me a little bit It's sort of like he was cuz coerced but she didn't tell him the full story And I feel like if she'd have been like yo, this is to it's my fault. He would have been like ooh Not great Not not a great look on you again. Oh, here's the bad news. Hmm. All right, Jackie. You want to read the next one? Yeah, is it possible Glenda Goodwitch is a descendant of Oswin and Salem? She resembles Salem and has a crown symbol like Osmas the frog scum That's interesting. We haven't seen her in a grip. Yeah, I think she's just chilling back in bacon Does she have actual magic? Oh, I don't know no I don't it kind of has seemed at times I don't know I gotta go back. Yeah, I gotta go back to see anything with Glenda Glenda, what's up with you and that could be and it really again done my like having kids thing and people having magic maybe Maybe she's a descendant. Yeah, how many how many Ospin descendants are running around? I Don't know. He's been around for a long time. Yeah, let me get lonely Do you think when people say gods they're referring to the gods of light and dark or Osmar and Salem? Wow, oh, well, man, you guys are just really Osmar and Salem because The people who like re-evolved only knew them only knew them as the gods Right and there's like the statues and things that around that they gained the following They've got to be Osmar Osmar and Salem It's probably them unless Ospin did go around being like when he's trying to like fix the world and like live a better life and stuff He was he might have been like hey, they were actually there are these two colorful dragons They used to live here don't anymore don't know why but when they weren't colorful dragons one looked like pyrons from dark stalkers Sure, that's exactly. Yeah, that's what he said. You had a great cosplay of one earlier. Oh Nailed it perfect god of life. Absolutely perfect represent All right, well, let's go ahead and pull up that megaphone pole and see which you guys thought was the biggest lore drop that happened in this episode and Oh, yeah, Salem and Oz backstory. Oh guys the moon there It had a sound like not even it was second at least but it didn't get a lot I mean the moon was like a moment. Yeah of like wow the moon But the rest of it was like deep into the Salem and Oz back story. So I get it. Yeah, all right I get your choices. Well You know, maybe we'll get some more answers when we interview our very special guest Eddie Rivas. Hey I appear by magic. Yes. Yeah, is there any a lore expert could yeah everything I say is cannon You're already getting slack messages, right It was great to have Eddie here for the last time ever But cool man, so tell us a little about being like this lore expert your official title is brand archivist Which is a lot more boring sounding it is, but it also might be the most Hard like just cool title in this whole company It makes it sound like your office is like one of those libraries that have moving ladders and like you And I'm there like pushing up my glasses and writing down everything about ruby. Actually, Carrie Let me check the archive Exactly That ladder is a robe So I'm a writer for our T animation and then like part of my job is also kind of helping keep straight a lot of the Canon and the lore as we work with people outside of Rooster Teeth and then just kind of internally to make sure that Miles and Carrie have Some other resource that they can rely on when we're going through lower stuff and making sure that stuff is Okay, have you ever had to correct Miles or Carrie? No, no, they're they're like they're like lower gods Like the lore expert right underneath, you know, so Like what wonder behind the animators like no Young doesn't have cat ears Left-hand yeah, that was my right It's now cannon Everyone they're both left-hands in the Ruby world in remnant I'm really enjoying you as like professor's Snape of animation situation swatting people Did you bring this fly with you because it's just killing me. Yeah, that's the lore fly, okay? So, let's see what questions we have for you Eddie. Yeah, let's go for it some light on some everything is cannon Everything he says it's cannon remember Who is oh, this is just an opinion. Who's your favorite oscar nation, but it's about to be fact That's from yeah, I would say how many do we see I don't remember how many we saw but hot daddy Glasses and Is that it's official name like official name? Yeah, how daddy I spent I liked him better than the name him Then final fantasy at like Ospin point to you final fantasy awesome 2.0. Yeah, I also really liked Wall Street Wall Street I spent yeah, he got like real fancy before he did Little pinstripe shirt and everything. I really liked decrepit old Ospin wandering the matrix or whatever with his little staff And he was just like he lived it out on that one like you I guess Did I mean he knew he was gonna reincarnate? Yeah, it's like the guy that tries to keep the toaster light go on for like 20 years too long Right. Yeah, right. That's it. It sounds like really callous and bad But like if you know you have this overwhelming task of like making sure all of humanity like gets their stuff together You think you'd just be like mmm, man Body aches in the morning off the cliff I go, you know or whatever just time to get you know Trade in the car get a new one Jackie There is justification for Ospin's half truth can Ospin gain back the trust of team Ruby Pink Floyd 95. Hey, what's up? Yeah, that remains to be seen in the next coming episodes I know that that's kind of been a big thing with like the fans after this episode is trying to figure out like okay Like was he justified and like keeping secrets like I mean you guys were talking about it earlier there Some people come down on one side some people come down on the other side about whether or not that's okay I think he's justified. I mean, I guess there's probably a lot of There's a lot of backstory. He's probably been burned some in the past But like the thing is I think they probably will end up forgiving him I think there'll be some conflict, but just like knowing Ruby and her attitude, you know, she'll probably be like listen Yeah, it's messed up We need to all come together because we're a team and we need to stop this so yeah got you She'll have some like touching moment or something like that Yeah My voice is shredded from extra life, so like I can't go higher than that. Okay, Eddie What was your favorite part of the episode? Probably the two brothers. I really like I'm like a lore nerd So like I really like seeing anything like the way way way back. So some of that. Yeah, are you the bad one? I'm the bad one. Yes. You got to do like the funny like body contortion It was so Gross as well. I really appreciate it that they didn't fight at all when there is Stop it because I mean when the god of light was like, hey, she messed up and then the brother was like, oh All right, it's fine. I got you. I'm like, wow. This is not Thanksgiving dinner. Okay. Yeah, they actually talked it out I'm like Lord Jerick wants to know so how did the Faunus come to be I was curious about that Clearly they weren't around the first time. Well, yeah One thing I will say because there's a few kind of questions that might be related to this stuff is that The episode actually used to be a lot longer than it ended up being so there were some things that were Kind of cut for time and things like that and I don't want to go too far with certain things But a lot of pieces are there that the episode does kind of confirm if you connect some dots a lot of the stuff with that one I know that there were some cut lines related around kind of the Restarting of the world after everything got obliterated. There's sort of like a life finds a way Kind of Gotcha, can you just tell me it's not because only Salem and animals were on the planet I said just Like you know chemicals and like dust stuff. That's true. Maybe maybe maybe they reform from the people dust, right? Well, so this time round just pieces of the moon falling all kinds of crazy stuff going on down there. Nobody knows All right, well Kenneth Kenneth will sure Kenneth will Hicks says so the silver-eyed warriors are all auspins descendants then right? So I just didn't know that's how I freaked my beans. It is. Yeah, those are those a bean freak Come on. I saw an happen in your eyes. Whoa. Wait. Yeah, be real with us that one You can you can go out with a bang Go out with a bang. Just like Mike. You just do this. Oh, yeah, and then there you go Stay tuned. There's all I will see you. I have to and I will if you're job You have to keep watching revealed in the spoiler tomes. It's a great library. It's so hard especially like restricted section Yes, that's the restricted. I love that you just you're just you're expanding on this narrative. You painted for Eddie It's gonna be a whole side story. I'm writing it No, there is actually a restricted section of like the the story Bible the lore Bible that is like this is the restricted Oh, I'm gonna find it. Yeah I've got a key It's already hard enough to dodge this because I work over an animation and like now they're moving more people over Behind me like the other day. I was like, oh my god. Those are Ruby things on your computer I'll never talk to you again. Bye. We have to dodge Eddie Why does Salem refer to Ospin by that name and not Osma asks Calum T. Morse. I'll say you know, how like whenever I was gonna say you're writing a check, but the audience When you when you In cursive anymore, but like when like the date changes and you're like, I keep writing November But it's like October by time when it goes backwards in my world But eventually you come around and you just start using right things the way they're she knows Yeah, he's a big deal. Yeah, I kind of took it as I don't want to call my ex by the name that I'm most intimate with them He changed his name on Twitter. Yeah, I mean, that wasn't even better answer Jackie. Good job Every few decades, you know, she's like, what is he called now? Yeah It might even be like it's it's a painful name for her. That's true Like there there could be some like romantic ties even though she doesn't want to admit it That's my answer. Okay. Yep. You're welcome. Great job. Jack That's like a logic versus emotion situation. Go edit the it's okay You have a chance to redeem yourself. Okay Sometimes we like to mess with our guests and make them go through a series of questions that we like to call the ruby rewind Lightning round. I love that guitar. All right. Eddie. Are you ready to play the lighting round? Sure? Cool, you have 45 seconds to answer as many questions as you possibly can that we're gonna throw out Ellie and I are gonna go back and forth. Let's get that timer up on the clock and bring up the first one The assets come slowly but the games go quick. Has the ending been thought of for ruby? Yes. Oh, I don't know. If you had to choose one protagonist from any universe to defeat Salem, who would it be? Thanos, cool. It's not a protagonist. What are the names of the gods of light and dark? Thanos Amici absolutely, that's my favorite meme God of darkness wiping everything out a reference to infinity war smash ultimate smash ultimate very nice Is there these family religious in any way 100%? What are some of the other gods worshipped in remnant? Do they include Jehovah see previous question? What about Buddha previous two questions? No, not that one it does dead people You almost got the answer Oh, and you didn't pass either You didn't pass? No, that's not I gave some pretty I thought you did real good But you know the powers that be they decided he didn't but that's okay I'm gonna get an army of people and march on the RT broadcast No, man. Well, just like that was our ruby rewind lightning round Oh Man anything so much you did great except for failing that but I thought you did good. I don't feel anything Great. Well, thank you guys so much for joining us before we go. Of course, we're gonna leave you With a sneak peek of next week's episode. So let's check it out. I would like you to explain to me How it is you failed so spectacularly The fauna's militia split our forces stop. Let me rephrase the question Who is responsible for your defeat? She's gonna kill him. I'm calling it now. I don't think so. I think he's gonna shift all the blame on to the girls You think so? Yeah. Oh Blake, right? Yeah, the one with the ears the one with the ears. Well that on us this fall Well then Terry is gonna die like Hey, I mean he's crazy. He probably didn't care seeing as that episode was all about seven It seems like a real good time to point out this wonderful shirt that we have behind us here And some of the amazing shirts that we're also available from the RT store tricks are weird and these amazing hoodies as well Keep warm. It's got cold all of a sudden. Yep. You want to feel warmer? You can pick this up. Ta-da This is protecting me from the freeze warning. All right. Oh, I'm really looking forward to next episode Man, we're like really ramping up this volume. We're only in this is only three episodes down I know they went big early. Yep. I can't wait to see what's next and thank you guys again so much for joining us And hopefully you'll tune in next week and we'll see you then. Bye. 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