 tomorrow. My name is Jamie Higginbotham. I'm glad you're able to make it with us today. Hope you liked the new intro and if I did everything right maybe we're broadcasting on X concurrently as well. If you are watching on X just note that we don't have comment integration just yet so I'll try to do my best to have like another iPad off to the side to watch that but we won't be able to bring your comments on the screen. Otherwise our normal YouTube channel does have the full comment integration and all the fun stuff you're normally used to. Alright as I mentioned my name is Jamie Higginbotham and I am joined with well Jared Head as per usual but also the star of today's show the one who made it to Kate Canaveral to see not one but two launches and a celestial event. Ryan, Kate and you know what I'm just gonna hand the baton to Ryan right like you had been planning to go to Psyche view a Falcon Heavy launch like you just somehow this worked out perfectly you got to see all of the things. Why don't you tell us a little bit about your experience in your trip. Yeah I'm gonna go right to the beginning but not right to the beginning that's that's quite a long way away. I'll go back to Wednesday I got here Tuesday no one wants to see that but I'll go back to Wednesday because that's when that's when the fun stuff began I just realized that I've got all my photos on OneDrive so it might take a little while for things to actually open let's go to here so here we go when I put things full screen I can't actually see like the program output of the stream so you're gonna have to tell me when you can see things because I can't I can't see what's on on stream so can you see a Falcon 9 in Falcon Averil? Yes. Okay good so we went to Falcon Averil, actually SpaceX's Falcon 9 booster out there which was mildly convenient and they were just rigging it up putting the landing gear back up after it came back in I think from the Starlink 621 so that was fun to see if we scroll down this birds around as well and then we went in a helicopter which was quite fun thanks to that for helping sort that out so now I saw the booster from helicopter which was very exciting so there you go. Oh come on there's more to it. By the way they seem really small on telly but they're actually quite big unexpectedly big they're bigger than you think and it's especially concerning when you realize you know that they kind of target just a teeny tiny in comparison droge ship in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean and then somehow managed to land propulsively on it it's kind of mind boggling to think about especially it's just even looking across the across port from where all the restaurants are and stuff it's a it's a it's a scale you just you just cannot comprehend the scale when you're when if you're not standing next to it it just so it's something in the brain that it doesn't it doesn't work until you've like physically in front of it so this is just you get the Texas yeah yeah this is just read the instructions which is um it's paint jobbers in better days I would say all these Starlink raunches have definitely been taking a little bit of a toll on its deck you see the optograbber out there and everything as well it's quite quite interesting to be able to see all of the operations going on from above afterwards so then we went out over the Kennedy Space Center way itself saw a bit of Blue Origin because they have their facilities out there they had it they had I think it's this two-cat the second stage testing facility which they had opened up conveniently by the way newsflash is quite hard to focus when you're in a moving vehicle so some of these may be a little bit fuzzy that's why but it looks like they had so they have some kind of like a can crusher structural test article thing in there at the moment which they were doing and they I think they opened the door that they knew I was coming so that's why they opened the door up and then what's next oh yeah SpaceX is next the Roberts Road facility which is where they're doing stuff building buildings there we know is this a like a specifically like space-oriented helicopter flight or did you just hire a helicopter and they when you got on they said okay what do you want to see taking me to all the space they are based in Port Canaveral and issue NSF users when we do our thrives and stuff but you know they're just a normal helicopter company just you can you can hire a helicopter for they do like three minutes tours all the way up to like 45 minute tours of like the space coaster what not so you can like just do port or you can do like a like a tour like this which goes over the the actual space center facilities and this is the I believe this is the top section of the new caracters tower for sick 40 which is pretty cool to see they're still working on it obviously I'm not quite sure where the caracters are we'll hook up to by imagine it'll be on here somewhere that looks like a gift shaft maybe I don't know this is why I don't write this is why I just talk let's see all it's good to the VAB that's also quite big you've got LC 39B behind it as well and interestingly yeah yeah this is something I found out they opened the doors for ventilation I thought you know being the I thought they would have invented some kind of mega air conditioning system for the high base but no they just opened the doors up and that the wonderful humid fluid in air in which is wonderful let's see as you can tell I kind of just you know held the shutter down and they didn't like over 30 minutes so I'm just working my way through I couldn't see anything of interest inside I believe they are currently working on renovating this high bay to do SLS operations in there as well because at the moment there needs one high bay for that but I can't really see what they're working on looks like they may be working on the ground here doing something potentially I don't know maybe reinforcing it I I have no idea anyways it's interesting to kind of you know felt a little bit strange as a foreign national to get on a helicopter and then fly over what is essentially a military base and then and then take home detailed photos but somehow it's a doubt so you know definitely won't be taking this back to the Ministry of Defence or Thunderdome or anything unfortunately it was quite hazy even this was a clear ish day but you know the humidity still makes it hazy so I did try and take some photos of 39a because obviously the Falcon Heavy was on the pad but as you can see one I'm in a moving vehicle and two it's it's kind of hazy so yeah you can kind of make it out but again focus was was somewhat tricky to achieve and then this is this is just good origin stuff again on the way back so I'm kind of releasing some of these I just you know I have like a thousand photos I need to sort and my priorities have been elsewhere for the moment for the time being over the last few days and this is this is wonderfully direct very much in focus this one is so after that I went on the ground Ruby showed us around the up there in the way and I managed to take some more stationary photographs of Falcon Heavy on the pad I corrected a couple of these and put them on Twitter obviously not as close up as you can get for like remote camera set and whatnot but like as a as just a member of the public this is publicly accessible areas is quite surreal to be honest because this is this is pretty like it's a bit of an understatement to say it's pretty cool to see it's much cooler to see in flight but that would to be able to get you know like photos like this like this up close and these angles and things is just quite quite cool to see especially when you've been looking at them through a screen for you know called those how many years and actually you know seeing it with your very very own eyes is a very different experience as a California native it was fascinating to me how flat Florida was and how far away you can see things yeah like we could see if you got in the right place and knew where what a look you could see the VAB from miles and miles and miles away yeah and it's quite quite surreal just be you know on the shoreline and Titusville just having your lunch and then if you peer over you could just see the VAB just standing there and and the pads behind it a little bit and the week at the border on Playa Linda is really close to 39B and that's to have the mobile launcher one out on the pad right now doing some fit checks and whatnot so I managed to snap some pretty high res imagery of the rear end of the mobile launcher which they have been working on I don't know if refurbishing or repairing is the right terminology after Artemis one because I don't know if you remember but we got some images of NASA of a mobile launcher which was very much unfit so I was another rocket for a few for a few months after Artemis one that I guess they kind of destroyed the elevator shaft a little bit and that was pretty much it from our trip out to Playa Linda and then the weather kind of started rolling in a little bit so we got in the car and drove off because it was because it was a bit wet I like this loopy says we're the only town in the country where the skyline changes on a weekly basis sometimes even less than that building size structures go come and go yeah let's see and if there's any comments or anything just you know in ever interrupt me because like I said I do have one monitor to work off it so I can't look at two things at once yeah so what was your favorite moment through all of that like what was there's got to be like one moment where you're like this is it this is why I came launch day was that moment to be honest because that was the you know kind of the point yeah that was that was that was the like finally seeing it launch was like a lot of excitement and like a little bit of relief because you know it finally went up and wait since like March 2022 thinking the launch would be in four months and then it was actually in like nearly 18 months so you know it was a little bit of relief in there as well but it was very exciting to finally you know see off the pad I kind of froze for a little while just kind of computing what was actually happening in front of me it was it's the speed of sound is actually quite nice because it gives you a moment to compute what you're seeing and then your brain can catch up and then you can compute the audio would you then hearing because obviously when you're you know four miles from the from the pad it takes a few seconds for the sound of launch to actually hit you and and and it hits you it hits you very hard so I have already put this on Twitter so if you want to see the full thing go sit on Twitter but this is the point of launch here basically of me just kind of computing what was actually happening it was also very bright the Sun was incredibly bright there is no other way to describe it it was a and abnormally strong Sun for what I'm used to at least and again like Florida is much closer to the equator than Norfolk is but still it's a very very very strong Sun so I was kind of trying to look at a rocket which is flying directly past the Sun whilst not blinding myself at the same time which was a little bit of a challenge but I still managed to keep an eye on anyway how did the flame from the rocket right because I think that's one thing that at least for me personally I never comprehended when watching these things or even seeing pictures like if it's there's no camera I've ever seen that captures it correctly how did that equate in your mind like what was that like I think that was probably the only thing that I did not expect you know I've been told to expect it to be loud which it was I've been told to expect to feel it in your chest which I did but the like the brightness of the flame it's just something that you just can't capture with anything apart from your eyes it's a very very bright light and it's just it's quite difficult to describe apart from like a really bright spotlight which is four miles away and just you know shining in your face but yeah it's it's a very it's unlike anything you can kind of see because it's not a light you know these are like flaming engines 27th grade big engines four miles in the distance it's just it's really difficult to describe I'm yeah it's yeah I can't I can't probably I can't do the actual brightness of it justice because it's just like it unless you've actually seen it you don't understand it it's just it's yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean you're not wrong yeah I don't know how to describe it either other than you mentioned the crazy crazy Florida Sun right like by the way that's normal Sun for Florida right that's what it's like welcome to Florida but like somehow the rocket flame even on a single stick brighter than the Sun yeah certainly not hotter than the Sun but brighter yeah it's mind-boggling to think about it and actually you know this is the giant fusion ball in the sky and yet this thing that we've created is right about it so then you get Biko one right and then the the boosters start coming back not only was this your first launch first off this was your first launch right like that you've seen of a real vertical takeoff vertical landing rocket or just vertical rocket right just yeah so yeah so awesome right your first rocket a Falcon Heavy pretty good first one pretty good first one but then you also got to experience landing for the first time what was that like from landing's a little further where were you at again I was at the the what's it the banana Creek viewing okay so banana Creek LZ one is actually further away yeah yeah so you know when you if you I've got you know you I bought the package for the to view from the Saturn 5 Center Center very much knowing that it would be a great shot of launch but the the landing would be quite difficult to seem but you know you could still hear it even if it you heard it the several seconds after it actually happened but I actually saw more of the two boosters coming back than I thought because it would basically I had to look straight up at the Sun and then just next to the Sun but it is just stupid time of data launch but just next to the Sun you could see the two sticks just stupid virtual background you could just see like two bright lights just like launch but coming back down for the for the for the entry burn and then as they went transonic you can see the vapor trails as well a little bit coming from them which kind of definitely helped to to to point out you can see the actual boosters from that distance coming back but you could see like the effect of the boosters coming back which is very cool to see and then several seconds after that we get the first triple sonic boom and then like I was I my brain was like word whether did the two booster sonic booms happen at the same time and I just didn't compute it where's the second booster gone because remember I can't see what's happening I don't know that this is like the most separated recovery of two boosters ever so I don't know where that second sonic boom is coming so I'm just I eventually 50 seconds later it came but for that for those few seconds I was very much in a kind of confused state of mind because I didn't know if I missed the second booster or something had happened to the second booster. Can you solve a long standing debate here was it two sonic booms or three? It was very much three it was very much a din din it's three. Anyone do things otherwise it's just wrong it's three it's so big it's three. Sorry sorry log long standing tomorrow thing. Grumpily smiling and I love every minute of it I'm here for it I'm here for it Ryan thank you so much for that. Excellent Ryan as we know as we know the waveform never lies. The waveform never lies um did the sonic booms startle you right because they're like the rocket launches loud but the sonic booms that's something different and you don't know when they're coming because I can't see it land so I can't count the seconds so I don't know when they're coming they weren't like a startling as I thought they would be because I was anticipating them coming the the second boosters booms they were a little bit more startling because I didn't know if I'd already heard them or not but like I knew I knew that something was coming at me and then you hear um so where you are at the sonic booms kick and then you hear the fire right yeah yeah so uh what what was that like like right it's a whole thing it's a whole there's like a sweet there's a symphony that happens in the sky with sound and this like incredible booster coming down like was that just like was that I know launch was the highlight but was that like that second kind of like just below the highlight or was like way down here on the excitement scale just below it it was it's it's still it's still pretty cool I only got two of them yeah it was it was it was pretty pretty cool to experience not say because you know big b.a.b. was in the light but definitely you know feel an experience uh and then later that day unless you've got more on Falcon Heavy but like you got to see two well yeah I guess you got to see four rocket launches in a way I want to see I guess two rocket launches four boosters yeah yeah and two come back but yeah I'll see where I can find it now so uh we headed out to cars park which if you don't know is like a little like I don't know what you call it it's a park basically on the on the on the bank of the which one's the river between Merritt Island and the and the rest of them is that banana I keep getting Indian and banana rivers combined I thought they were all the same I thought they're all the same they all connect to each other I don't know that body of water there and I've got to find it so I brought out uh my camera and my tripod and then realized that I forgot the quick release plate for my tripod so that tripod was pretty useless so I I kid you not I like I I I handheld this huge thing this huge camera with this huge lens on the end and then uh luckily because it does 6k I could stabilize it after the fact in after effects and try and get something a little bit useful out of it but you know I I thought I've already seen one launch today I think I can sacrifice seeing this launcher with my eyes by trying to get some cool video of it uh so that's what I did um and uh this is uh Starix 622 leaving the cape Thursday Friday night rather and the it was there there was some clouds around so you didn't really get the the proper jellyfish effect or at least I couldn't see the proper jellyfish effect but you know seeing a launch with the sun behind it is just something else it's it's it's just incredible to see because you can see the rocket itself so much further than you can at a daytime launch with the sun overhead or in front of the rocket because it's like it's illuminating the rocket on a dark backdrop so you can see things so much further into flight and it's just even through the cloudy you can still you can see it for so much longer which is just really cool to see and um I'll scrub along a little bit here because even through the final part of first stage flight even with a naked eye you can still see Miko happening you can see the plume physically shrink as the main engine's cut off which was just like one of the coolest things to see ever because you get to see this plume just kind of taper off it's it's another thing that's really hard to describe but it's just it's just kind of mind-boggling to think about there you go there's Miko and it's just like and this was really cool also as you can tell this is quite far away because the camera was moving quite a lot but this is the second stage on the right and then these two dots are the fairings and then the dot on the left is the first stage which is just you know seeing a falcon heavy is cool right that was definitely the highlight of the day but being able to see a starlink launch and not only the the the first stage engine cut off but also see the second stage deploy ignite and then see the fairing separate that's just like mind blown that was just you know the second best launch of the day uh two of two huh yeah you know if you stay for another week in florida you'll probably see one or two more starlink launches yeah i i need to look at the sketch and i need to see i need to see what's coming up or bounce over to uh california see something fly out of an infog well here's something fly out of an infog she never see anything fly around the bug you only hear it uh so then okay cool so you saw falcon heavy highlight of the trip you saw a single stick falcon nine was the was it as impactful as the falcon heavy i assume isn't i assume not like it was i don't think it was because of the it was a smaller rocket it's just because i was so much further away from the pad than i was with falcon heavy and you know it as it gets later on you know just kind of the the atmosphere around changes a little bit so it's the sound the sound has to travel further so it kind of deadens it out a little bit um but it still sounded excellent you just didn't get you know as crisp of a crap as you would as you would get if you were closer to the pad so then um you had a third event what you again you picked somehow you had like the perfect time to come to the united states and the perfect area to come to the united states you had a celestial event as well yeah i got to see a solar eclipse a partial i don't know whether it's because it wasn't you know fully annular here i don't know whether it's a partial solar eclipse or a partial annular solar eclipse i don't know if the astronomer here has any idea what the official term and astronomer astronomer the the official term would regardless of whether it's an annular or total you would have viewed it as a partial okay so just partial he would have viewed it as a partial because he was not in what would have been considered the line of totality or because there was no this one we would we call it the path of annularity i guess okay so that's what most of us have been calling that area so so he was too far off a center the path of annularity or yeah okay yes quite a lot so okay it went through texas though right yes okay i tried to to stabilize it a little bit in after effects but i had you know many many many hundreds of gigabytes of footage which i'm gonna have to deal with when i get home because i don't have the bandwidth to deal with them right now uh but this is this is 6k crop to 1080p and then stabilized in after effects and i think i've got a pretty cool shot of it coming across right here it bounces around a little bit but it's much more stable than just the wall time routes and i only had time to to kind of stabilize the first part of the eclipse here but the clouds the clouds didn't help but it was certainly much clearer here than it was in other places of the world which i'm very fortunate for the weather did kind of comply with this so yeah that is that was pretty cool and even though this is sped up it is still still kind of slow there you go kind of kind of across now there's some pretty prominent sunspots as well on the on the on the front edge of the sun as the moon started to come across yeah that that sunspot you see that's the most prominent there that's probably about two to three times the size of the earth roughly huh which is you know at least it have it my mind was boggled by falcon heavy and then it was boggled by starling and then my mind was boggled by you know astrophysics and and eclipses and orbits and all of these things and you know just kind of everything together so this is the this is the non-tracked full version of it which was a skip ahead a few minutes and there you go so i should this is just kind of cut together as i had to keep adjusting the tripod and and search that's pretty good right and it did eat one of the sunspots there for a second which is pretty cool to see i'm pretty sure around here was the maximum that i got in florida because of physics uh i can't see them on this but there you go that was that was them the maximum partial solar annular eclipse of the sun so falcon heavy starling yeah solar eclipse all basically in a 24 hour period right like they were like back to back to back weren't they uh yeah yeah you can put it that way yeah that's that's pretty incredible um what's your next plan for while you're here stateside are you going to do anything else that's fun or you'd like can't top that i'm out uh we're probably going to go to texas for a few days next week uh i haven't booked anything yet but we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna sort that out later on so probably you thought falcon was big just wait my friend yeah i you know you mentioned something interesting and i've never it's it's funny because like i i work with these things all day every day right and still even working with them all day every day there's something about when you step away from the vehicle your brain loses the ability to comprehend how large it is and for me at least i don't actually comprehend it until i'm either directly under it or directly over it right like i gotta be looking up at it or straight down and then my brain is like whoa actually this thing is huge and the further away like i get you know 30 to 100 meters away and all of a sudden my brain's like that's big it's pretty big yeah i mean it's pretty big uh but then like again you're like directly under you're like no this thing is freakishly huge and it's it's amazing how that just shifts every single time and i can't seem to get that to sink into my head of like no no this thing is freakishly huge and then there's also like you get normalized to it but like yeah if if anyone in the show ever has a chance to go see a rocket in person you need to get up close to it and there's also something different and i don't know why when the rockets are horizontal they don't seem as big as when they're vertical there's something about them being vertical where like you're like oh my gosh so like the Saturn 5 visitor center did you you visited the Saturn 5 I hope yeah so you know after being sat in the in the Fruity and Sun for three hours on a metal seat not walking around anywhere you know you kind of have a small desire for air conditioning so they ushered us all into the Saturn 5 center and uh yeah that was it was pretty nice to to cool off and relax underneath the Saturn 5 I've been there before but you know it's all it's it's you you I have never remembered the scale like I remember it's big but I never remember remember it's that big you know it's just like uh it's not something you can you it kind of clicks until you know you're right underneath it but Jedi master brings up something interesting the rocket garden at Kennedy space center was good for scale for me now those rockets in the rocket garden are substantially smaller than the Saturn 5 in the Saturn 5 visitor center however because the rockets in the rocket garden are larger like you kind of perceive them as being like huge like oh my god these things are epic and not to say that you don't feel that way in the Saturn 5 like when you're looking at the Saturn 5 on its side but something's lost at least in my mind something's lost in its scale when it sideways I'm not saying it's a small rocket far from it I'm saying it was a massively huge rocket that's hard to comprehend for some reason because it's sideways and I don't know why so if you ever have an opportunity find go to places where you can see vertical rockets go to south Texas there are a bunch of vertical rockets down there huge vertical rockets actually the the rocket garden is another really great place yeah uh josh wants to know if you had any encounters with a Florida man with Florida man not a Florida man just Florida man so I haven't had any encounters with Florida man not yet did you uh did you wrestle a gator uh no I haven't done that either um any final like tips and tricks for people who are going down there and visiting and want to experience what you experienced like places they should go food they should eat things they should do uh ask a local not me because I don't have all the answers uh and locals do did they bring you anywhere fun did they bring you anywhere fun that was like like did you go to fish lips or anything uh I was taken to a Mexican restaurant by the NSF crew and I tried Mexican food which I I'd already had a sandwich at the satin five center so you know I didn't I didn't finish my food but it was all right bean and cheese refried whatever um and then we went home to pork and apple as well I didn't eat anything next I'd already eaten you know after that but yeah all right any final thoughts uh rockets are big thanks right I'm glad you had fun I know that was a long time in the making I know that it was probably I know I know it was stressful for you from time to time trying to figure out how to do it and like what would make sense and like I'm glad that you actually got to see it I'm glad you got to see not just a rocket but you got to see the one that you were trying to get to you got to see Psyche you got to see Falcon Heavy and then you got to see an eclipse and a single stick uh you know Starship like how amazing is that I really do hope you are able to make it down to Texas I guess that's no that's down from there down and over to Texas and see Starship um it's even bigger than Falcon Heavy somehow I mean it is just it's massive and impressive and really freaking cool it's it's just an amazing little area so all right um let's head it over to uh to Jared Jared I did Ryan take your story um well I mean maybe both of them a little bit I was gonna I was gonna say a little bit about Psyche the actual object itself I know we talked about the rocket but not the actual satellite yeah not the spacecraft sorry yeah so I was mostly gonna talk about the target because the target is a really unique one um if the emission is named after the target itself Psyche it is a huge asteroid that is about 280 kilometers by 230 kilometers by 170 kilometers this is a really big chunk and usually we would say something like this is a really big chunk of rock um but in this case we're looking at something that's actually like a really big chunk of metal uh and that's what makes Psyche such an interesting target is that it is a metallic asteroid uh it doesn't mean that it's made entirely out of metal for for all of our observations that we have here on earth um but it's got a very high metallic concentration compared to most of the baseline of asteroids where they're a bit more rocky like they may have some metal in them but they're mostly uh similar to like silica or rocks that you would find here on earth uh so this is really exciting to be able to go out and look at a chunk of metal that is roughly about the size of southern california so um so we'll we'll have to see when it when Psyche arrives in 2029 what we get this is the best that we have of it right now with the european large telescope um yeah that's as good as it gets from here on earth it is deep within the asteroid belt between mars and jupiter so we're going to see a gravitational assist during the psyche mission in 2026 from mars as it flies by and then it should arrive in 2029 where Psyche is going to do about 20 months of observation of the actual asteroid itself from various orbits ranging from an initial operating orbit of several hundred kilometers all the way down to just a mere 30 kilometers above the surface of Psyche and I got really interested in terms of like what are the orbital velocities that you have to take in order to do that um in Psyche's highest orbit around the asteroid it's only going to have to move at about 70 miles an hour just over 100 kilometers an hour in order to maintain that speed and at its closest to the surface at that 30 kilometer orbit it's only going to need to be in about 300 kilometers an hour or roughly just about 180 miles an hour in order to maintain that orbital velocity so so if you had a ramp in a smooth enough area and a fast enough vehicle you could actually drive yourself into orbit um off of Psyche if you wanted to that would be really fun um to do that evil keneval on Psyche's going to have to do a little bit more than just 12 buses to jump over I think so um so we'll have to just really looking forward to this mission because it's obviously when we look at this image right here most of us don't see a lot but if we get a lot closer with it here we can see that there are brighter areas there's darker areas so that tells us that there's features and structures and these things don't look like they're very well spread out they look like they're very up close and right against each other um so we'll have to see it may be you know one of those things where a lot of people aren't expecting it to be exciting but then it turns out to be exciting just like Pluto was for the new horizon's mission back in 2015 but until Psyche starts to get into 2029 we're really not going to have many images better than this than we are already gotten from the very large telescope then uh we've gotten from the european southern observatory it's very large telescope so yeah super excited for whenever we get the chance to actually look at Psyche I I cannot wait I have dumb I have dumb newbie questions do you have a moment to answer my stupid newbie questions no stupid questions only stupid things to not ask a question you mentioned that it was like 175 kilometers by like hundreds of kilometers by hundreds of kilometers by hundreds of kilometers right or so what I guess I don't have context as to what the size of a normal asteroid or object would be like that that sounds actually small to me like okay 200 kilometers by 200 kilometers you know you think about the size of the earth like okay it's teeny tiny right so like what what is the actual size of something like why what makes this big what would you normally expect to see um oh my gosh uh the the size of asteroids and such are distributed all over the scale of sizes that you can think of there are things that are um the size of Vesta which is you know about twice the size of Psyche that's the largest asteroid in the asteroid belt Vesta is pretty close to about half the size of the state of California and then you have things that are really really small like the size of a car so for asteroids the the difference is in size from the largest of the smallest is absolutely massive on the average you're going to be finding things maybe about a kilometer or two in size um so a really good example of this is the the asteroid that Osiris Rex targeted called Bennu that one was about one kilometer in size roughly um so it looks big in those photos um but when you see the photos of Bennu it's actually not really a big uh big a big object in terms of what most of us would consider an asteroid you know we think of the movie Armageddon with an asteroid the size of Texas coming to earth um so no those we were very well accounted for where those are at and um and I just checked some statistics real quick just because even I was interested in it there's actually only 16 asteroids that have a diameter of 240 kilometers or larger so Psyche is in some real rarefied territory with just how big it is there's less than 20 that are actually this size so um so even more rare uh with that is Psyche the leftovers of a planet could it be the could it have been a part of whatever was forming in the asteroid belt and then some major impact events broke it apart and Psyche because it's so metallic and high in that concentration is it actually the leftovers of the core of whatever this object was there because all the metals are going to sink through the material over time and increase the density and make a metal core of an object could it be that possibly um we're just gonna have to take a look at it once we finally get there in six years would finding metal asteroids like this out in the universe help us with our exploration of space because you know when you want to go further and further out you can't keep coming back to earth grab those materials and we're going to need metallics we're going to need waters we're going to need all of the things right so it would this be useful to not us today certainly but you know humanity 100 200 300 years in the future yeah so you and josh simpson are are thinking exactly the same which is that mining of materials is going to be really important once we start to go out there um and i feel like there's a lot of stuff too um that can be done in space that's a lot of heavy industry that's done here on earth it's very polluting very uh very toxic to the environment around it that can be done in space without having to use methods that are toxic in in a multitude of ways with chemicals and other things the material is literally right there and because it forms in vacuum in microgravity it ends you end up getting it some of its purest forms as well so um so with that in mind yes it should be a very important thing and i do want to throw this out there too which is that psyche on actually we've seen some evidence that says that may have hydrated minerals at its surface which means that those minerals have been formed in the presence of water somehow so a big mystery there as to if we have this big metal object why would we have all these hydrated minerals and if you were to go to psyche and you wanted to use psyche for resources obviously we could use it for metal um but if there are hydrated minerals there too separate the water from the minerals and you got water so that psyche would be like like uh like a pilot truck stop if you will you know out somewhere in the desert here in california as you're trying to get to your target well you would also have rocket fuel right if you've got water yeah rocket fuel rocket fuel water oxygen and then you know you could use your water for a multitude of things you don't just have to use it to be potable water you can use water as a cooling system um several companies have shown you can use water as a propellant uh for your electrical thrusters so possibilities are endless just got to get out there and do it radiation absorption like a whole bunch of stuff yes space like i so this gets you know maybe we talk about this in the post show with our members but like when you start thinking about you know you think i immediately you said metal and i immediately started thinking about like our next generation economy and you mentioned bringing it back here on earth because of machine like i personally i'm not sure that's going to really happen um it just seems like once you've gotten out that far just keep going and like i'm not sure we're going to bring it back maybe we will who knows what the future brings but to me it makes more sense just to keep going out into the universe um but like the economy isn't going to be metal it's going to be water right yes you need water for all of the things and so maybe we talk about that in post show or maybe that's the end of the conversation right i think we're all going to be like yeah you need water for everything my thing about bringing it back my thing about bringing a lot of the stuff back to earth initially is the fact that most people are going to look at doing stuff in space and saying i don't care it's happening in space so i don't care i who cares i you know that's happening in space it's the realm of of people who are who are who have so many zeros behind their name that they just don't care so who so why should i care about why we keep it in space so to me bringing it back to earth is a very it is an important selling point if you will in helping people understand why things and doing things in space are so important it's because just because something's in space doesn't mean it's not going to affect us here on earth these are not mutually exclusive things and humans were very much wanting black or white thinking were not very good at the you know color of my shirt gray thinking with things so helping people understand that yes you can have stuff in space that helps you here on earth while it's in space you know that's still very you know it's very important to me at least personally so that's why i always like to bring it up i so that's interesting that might be the show the topic for the post show because i agree with you in concept but i think execution we fundamentally disagree on execution or we might actually we probably agree on all the things i think we disagree on what might be important there and i would love to talk about that in post show yeah that'd be so cool the members only show yeah yeah yeah because like get some different perspectives today yeah yeah because i think um yeah that's going to be an interesting conversation um and then um there was an eclipse yes oh so great yesterday i absolutely loved it i love i love a good astronomical event let me tell you and uh eclipses are super cool because most of the time eclipses don't require you to really go somewhere to experience them they can come to you um especially things like lunar eclipses i've always joked and said that all you have to do is be on one side the right side of the earth and the ability to look at the moon you know that's all it takes a lunar eclipses are awesome because over half of the earth gets to see a lunar eclipse so like that is an impactful astronomical event that you can actually see solar eclipses though solar eclipses are absolutely astounding because the sun is something that like all of us universally experience so to see parts of that beginning to slip away is a bit unnerving um for a lot of folks a bit kind of makes you feel something you know for a lot of folks um and then like going into the path of totality for a total eclipse or the path of the annularity like for yesterday's eclipse um that's something completely different that is on a level where you are no longer really especially for a total eclipse you're no longer really thinking about you know the fact that this is an astronomical event happening it becomes something that impacts you not just with the physical changes that are happening around you but also the emotional changes that it makes you feel inside of you as well um and that's Ryan you were kind of talking about how the launch was doing that and that's what rocket launches do with me as well it's not just necessarily the physical feelings that I get from a rocket launch it's also those that emotional feeling that a rocket launch gives me at the same time that's just as amazing um but boy um that eclipse was fantastic I gotta say so I was working the the stream event at Griffith yesterday we had a couple thousand people come up to watch the eclipse which is a lot of people at Griffith Observatory come watch we had a double digit number of telescopes to help the public watch them as well and we had eclipse glasses because that's the only way you could safely view a solar eclipse is to have eclipse glasses I know a lot of people will say that online yeah online um there's also a lot of people that will say that you could use welding glass and I always say don't do welding glass because you probably don't know what type of welding glass to purchase and if you go to Home Depot or Lowe's the people working there also probably don't know um so just go get eclipse glasses we were selling them at Griffith for three bucks so like it's cheaper than that you ain't gonna get welding glass for three bucks I can tell you that um so yeah and I'm just gonna pull up our time lapse that we made um of our our footage um yesterday because it I think it speaks for itself very very well and it's got the watermark from work on it so that way I can um let you see that there but yeah cross advertising yeah you know I got it it's making I'm making two of my jobs happy today um but yeah take a look at that the moon taking a big chunk out of the sun here in Los Angeles we got 77 percent coverage of the sun so we were actually able uh and then there's maximum right there so we were actually able to experience a sudden reduction in the the radiance from the sun so the sunlight actually stopped feeling as strong as it was there's actually a point where it stopped heating things up we could actually feel the temperature starting to cool off and it was also a time period for about 20 minutes like 10 minutes before maximum 10 minutes after maximum where things reached a type of light that I would call very eerie like it was just really it was dim like the light had dimmed not a lot but it was enough you could actually notice the light had dimmed and it was just really weird um some folks in my neighborhood that I talked to yesterday said they came up with a really good term they said it seemed like the light had become an antique like a very antique kind of lighting um and I would kind of agree with that description where it felt like you know suddenly the light was not as strong as it was you know it's almost like what you would expect uh from some sort of period period film set somewhere you know so um yeah so just the the physical uh effects of the eclipse were noticeable so even if at least here in Los Angeles even if you weren't um oh cognizant of the eclipse in it happening there would have been a time period where there were physical effects that could have given you clues as to what possibly may have been happening and then also we were able to do some really neat tricks too like the crop you know cross your fingers a little bit and that allows you to generate these little images of the sun and the moon in the eclipse on the surface of of whatever you may be standing near so yeah it was uh it was pretty cool and I got to say um I just I'm more hyped now for the April 2024 eclipse and I'm really hoping that as many of our tomorrow viewers as they can find their way to the path of totality um for that one because that's going to be a total solar eclipse in the closer you are uh to the heart of that eclipse which is going to be about four and a half minutes in the shadow of the moon um you know you're going to get more and more time and I'm going to be going I personally am going to be going to Texas for it because Texas is probably going to have the best weather um it kind of goes up Texas through Arkansas and then on the western side of the Appalachia Mountains out through New York into Canada so a lot of areas that are very well known for being very cloudy in April um so that's why I'm going to go to Texas for it just because of the weather but I highly recommend April 8th 2024 a Monday as you could tell I'm totally not counting down the days or seconds until it happens um we should get a crowner on the screen we should get a crowner on the screen for sure I would love that we should have we should have a uh yeah yeah that'd be really cool absolutely I'll work on something yeah so after that I believe the next eclipse here in the United States is something like in 2036 and then the next one after that in the United States is going to be in 2050 something so but I mean they happen all over the earth there's usually one a year uh usually they come in pairs as well um although we have had years where there's been none the shadow of the moon like just barely misses the earth so you get a partial instead of a total um so yeah so just kind of just go go like what isn't it I can't hang up we can entice people more you know right like so okay Texas and I think it goes through like the northern part of Texas through like central Texas the path of totality something like that so I'm going to be in Dallas Fort Worth for it because Dallas Fort Worth is literally in the shadow like in the path of totality if you live in the Dallas Fort Worth area guess what you have to do go outside sit on your front lawn enjoy it so like like you are the luckiest sons of guns in the United States in order to to take a look at that eclipse unless the weather's bad then you got to get in the car and you gotta you gotta figure it out very very quickly it worked with that so um so remember always have a backup plan so that's very important I almost had to do that for the 2017 eclipse when I when I went to go see that one um because of all the I was in Oregon there were a lot of forest fires happening so we had to go somewhere where there was not a lot of smoke um and we were very lucky that our viewing site clear smoke cleared out in time for the eclipse but we were we were just about five to ten minutes away from making a decision to travel elsewhere to go to it but yeah just get yourself ready so I'll say we've got a bunch of space nerds on this show right like we are the we're the nerdy of the nerds right and so um if it's in Texas you have an opportunity to kind of do some cool things right you can see the eclipse and it's path to totality and if you go to Dallas Fort Worth then you can take you know when you're done you can go to the Meow Wolf exhibit enjoy that for a minute and then uh which I I forget where that is but it's like 10 minutes from Dallas and then jump on a really quick flight I you can drive it but don't Dallas roads are born like Texas roads are very straight very long very boring so just get well I hear Duddle laughing but like it's true so jump on a plane get on a plane from DFW to BRO which is a very short hop skip and a jump away like it's a 45 minute flight if that jump into Brownsville and go see the largest most powerful rocket human has ever conceived right like go make a thing of it like you're already in Texas like take an extra 30 45 minutes and go see a big huge freaking rocket like see these amazing events do pull a Ryan pull a Ryan go do a whole bunch of stuff all at once it's called pulling a Ryan from now on anyhow yeah I guess I'm gonna have to figure that out go to Houston while you're at it and see some of the the Johnston Space Center history absolutely make like a weekend out of it right you can go to Houston you can go you can see the path to totality in Dallas you can do a little Meow Wolf has nothing to do with rocketry but you'll love it I promise and then go to Houston and then go down to Brownsville as well and like just get your rocket nerd on absolutely do it maybe we should do like a tomorrow thing right maybe we should yeah figure out how to do like a group event where we can all just go down and do like a whole bunch of stuff together have an emergency helicopter or plane on standby in case we need to go somewhere yeah so the problem is so when you're looking at that map I don't know can you guys still hear me by the way I'm not sure if I'm part of this yes layout I know you can hear me Jared can the audience hear me you should be part of this layout yeah okay great so if you look at that Brownsville if you look at the very tip of Texas the very lower right hand corner that's basically where Brownsville is located so you really don't want to drive it much like rockets you cannot understand the scale of California nor can you understand the scale of Texas they are huge and they take forever to drive so don't even do it just just fly just fly go man you have a really long time in it too three almost four minutes yeah and that's why I was saying you know that's why I'm going to go there because it's like an instantaneous four minutes I you know I was I got two minutes two seconds where I was standing at in Oregon that was not enough I need more I need more man you know that you know you're always completely silent during an eclipse because you're just blown away by what you're looking at and then your first words after an eclipse finishes you'll look at somebody and you'll say when's the next one those are like your first words when's the next one because you just I know people who are like addicted to seeing it because it is just it's you know a lot of my co-workers before the eclipse they were like you just have to go see it we can't explain it to you Jared you just have to go see it and I was like come on like come on there's got to be a way to describe it and having seen one no you just have to go see it it is a physical emotional experience and there's just so many levels to it that it cannot be described it can only you can only go through it I guess is how I would say it so I assume that's what the overview effect is like as well we'll talk about that in post show speaking of post show if you 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