 Welcome to Dare to Dream. This is Debbie Daschinger, and it is my pleasure to be here with you because today's episode is all about numbers. It's all about numbers and how your name and birth numbers attract luck, abundance, and joy or not. So a little bit later, I've got Jesse Kelsey here. And Dare to Dream has been nominated for two People's Choice Podcasts Awards for a Webby Award, and we are listed in Wealth Magazine as one of the top 20 best podcasts to listen to this year. I'm Debbie Daschinger. The show is sponsored by Dr. Dane Heer and Access Consciousness. They do amazing energy work out into the world. You can take their programs anywhere in the world and become a facilitator. Go to drdaneheer.com or accessconsciousness.com. I am a media visibility expert. I show you how to write a highly engaging book. You can join my group or work with me privately. Also, if you already have a book that is out, whether it's now or you wanna relaunch, I can take you to a guaranteed international bestselling status. I do all the work and you just do your brilliance in the background. And finally, I teach you how to be interviewed on radio and podcasts so you can get massive results. I've got a great gift for you if you're ready to learn these things right now and launch yourself visibly and successfully out into the world. Go to debbiedaschinger.com slash gift. That's D-E-B-B-I-D-A-C-H-I-N-G-E-R.com slash gift. So as I said, today's show, oh, I've been looking forward to this one for a while because Jesse Kelsey is a world-renowned numerologist. He specializes in residential and business numerology and provides valuable insight on the power of numbers and how they affect our lives. In his books, The Power of Home Numbers and All About Numbers, he combines his Eastern upbringing with his Western experience to bring awareness and understanding of this phenomenon over the past 20 years. Jesse has consulted thousands of people and affected their lives positively. His clients include prominent business people and extremely successful communication and entertainment companies. Jesse has appeared on many radio and television shows in the US and his unique perspective on numerology has amazed his audience. I'll tell you right now, his book Amazed Me. So highly recommended. He's a successful real estate broker by trade, also a certified federal aviation administration flight instructor and holds a commercial pilot license. Well, he's devoted his life to this and he came here to the US to make this his home and he lives in California with his family. To find out more about him, go to jessekelsi.com. It's J-E-S-S-E-K-A-L-S-I dot com. And I welcome Jesse Kelsey, has a ring to it, Jesse Kelsey, to the Dare to Dream show. So good to have you. Oh, great. I'm excited to be here. Thank you for having me. Yeah, it's a pleasure. I got to say right from the get go. So reading your book, loved it, loved it. I had no idea. I'm known about numerology, but wow, you go so deeply into the amazing places that numbers impact us. Will you first talk about that? All the things people don't consider that have a number attached to it and are influencing our lives? Yeah, absolutely true. So to start with quickly Debbie, you know, numerology like we all know has many schools. You know, there's, we have a system here in the West where the Chinese look at it in a different way. The Hebrews, the Greeks, the East Indians, you know? I mean, we all have different perspectives on numerology and the tradition that I practice is the Vedic tradition. And this has the support of the Chaldean code, you know? So in this court, I'm sure most listeners are familiar with all these codes, right? The letter and the number association and that's the code I use. So now a step further, I mean, I just don't look at numbers by numbers, right? We also look at them as planetary energy, right? And so what happens is basic numerology like we all know goes from number one to number nine and the rest kind of, you know, starts repeating. But then what happens is as it starts repeating, right? It gets more and more complicated. So let's say for example, the energy at number one has the, number one has the energy of the mighty sun or nine is Mars or six is Venus or seven is Neptune or four is Uranus or something. So that's the association but people will find out very quickly. And then as these numbers are gonna increase in their, you know, in their strength, right? That gets more and more complicated. Let's say for example, a number nine, right? You look at number nine, say number nine is a nine and then 18 is a nine and 27. That's your data, but it's 27 is an excellent number. I like 27 a lot, it's been my lucky number. And no wonder I'm here with you. I've talked about that in my book as well. And then 36 to 45 and 50, these are all nine shades, right? So now say, if you can solve with me and I tell you, hey, Debbie, your number is a number nine, right? And so then you say, oh, okay, that's great, Jesse. I'm gonna go look for a property and I need this big house and you find a property and the number outside is a number 108. And you say, oh, 108. And then Jesse told me number nine is my best number and I'm gonna buy it all cash, right? You can buy it anywhere you want but that number nine is not good for you. Why? Because the number one and the eight are conflicting planetary energy, son and Saturn, father and son, Yin and Yang, black and white never get along together, right? So what that would do is attract things like cuts, injuries, accidents, family quarrel, legal trouble, separate whole bunch of standard of the door. But if you are in the law enforcement or if you're in the medical field, whether you're a surgeon or a nurse, you know, work for the FBI, you'll be successful. But personally, it'll distract you, you know? I mean, I'm sorry to use the word of anyone who lives in that place. So that is how this energy is very, very complicated, right? So what happens is we start with everybody's date of birth, right? We know the date of birth and that is the starting point. From there, we drive the best vibrations, you know? The best numbers. So now let's go back to your numbers. Let's talk about your numbers, right? Let's talk about your numbers a little bit. And you know. I love that, yeah. So now see, I know you're born on June the 27th. And then your strength is mercury and venous. So number five and number six are your best numbers, right? So now with this, this is very good actually. So mercury and venous on numbers as a court is really, really good. You know, it's considered to be very lucky. It's very lucky, you know? But the thing is, it is lucky when these numbers are used around you in your name, in your residence, the city you live, on your license plate, your phone numbers, you know, just about everywhere, right? Then you can really feel the effect of these numbers, right? So like in your case, right? Your name, see Debbie does. So your first name has that energy of mercury communication. And that's exactly what you're doing right now. So you're sitting there and you're communicating, right? Through your guests to the whole world, right? So that comes there. And then your last name carries the energy of moon, right? So what happens is your first name is really good, but your last name has moon energy, right? So moon sometimes, you know, kind of conflicts with mercury a little bit. Yes. Yeah. So in your case, first name is really good, but a little correction or a little alphabet could be added someplace here that could, you know, like a middle initial depending on how it changes or something in the last name, a little letter that can shift the vibration and, you know, pick it up completely, you know, to resonate with your energy completely, you know? So that is what needs to be done. And then for, then going back into these general like now, fives and sixes, right? So mercury and six means, emerald is very good for you, an emerald. I wonder if you ever won an emerald before or I'm sure you must have. I actually have never, no. Oh, interesting. So emerald is really good for you. The emerald is going to work great on the heart chakra. And emerald for you is communication. Emerald for you is also liquid cash. Emerald is the prince of the zodiac. Yeah. Emerald is your business, right? So this kind of work that you are now in the media, right? And emerald, and emerald is typically worn as worn on your right hand, pinky finger, it's always set in silver or white gold or it's worn around the neck and it's touching your heart chakra, you know, manifestation. And it is one stone that'll always bring you good luck. Done, sold. Yeah. See, so that is how we harmonize these energy. But then going back to your home number. So I wouldn't like to talk about your home number outside whenever I can tell you that home, your home number carries a lot of, you know, Neptune energy. Neptune sometimes, you know, is kind of you have your, you have those dreams are sometimes you feel there's some energy floating around in your space, you are woken up in the middle of the night. So this energy again, could be patched in the sense that, you know, a small number, you know, a small number could be added to the existing numbers, patch it to make it flow better with your frequency, with your energy, right? Yeah. So that is the idea behind it. And again, for phone numbers, I was looking at your phone number. So and it was interesting when I just said you need more mercury in there, more 555s, right? And that would kind of, you know, make the energy flow better, you know, connect better as if the channels kind of open up, you know? So the cell phone needs more fives and sixes? Yeah, yeah, yeah. God knows it doesn't have any. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and I think, and you know, cell phones can pass, maybe we can try our luck in getting a new number, but I think you definitely would, I mean, it'll be very beneficial if we get a new number for you, which has more mercury and venous energy. So these are, you know, shifts that I can, you know, quickly look at by looking at, you know, your basic energy, right? And see the thought behind us, this is what? Now we are trying to harmonize the energy, right? We're trying to balance the energy around us, you know? We're trying to move those blocks and clutter, right? And these are very, very important, right? I mean, you know, we have people, you know, all kinds of consultants and all kinds of, you know, people who have good, give great information all the time, right? But I can tell you something, right? If your basic energy, if your name's not working, flowing with you or your home's awful, these blocks, right? They can create many, many challenges. I can tell you, I've seen this over the years, you know? And, you know, you be, and they just be like, you're always chasing your tail, right? And you would never know, you know, what to do, what to do, but these changes can make a huge difference in your life. Okay, yeah, obviously, one just needs to read your book to find out which way the wind can go. And I thought it was really interesting because I was so inspired reading your book. I couldn't wait till you got here, so I started looking into it myself. And what I quickly found out is that, now I get why people come to you and pay you for a session because it is so deep. And like you were saying, there were people who would just try to, oh, there's a thing called a patch. You put on a house. I know, I'll patch my house. And they actually didn't know what they were doing. And so they put the wrong numbers there and bad things started to happen. And there's a lot of stories, well, there are stories of people followed your advice and did very well. And then people who, for whatever reason, went off the rails, so to speak. So is Jesse Calcy your name originally, or did you change it? Oh, so good question. So my official name is Jasbir, J-A-S-B-I-R, Jasbir Singh Calcy. That is my name, Jasbir Singh Calcy. Official name as on my passport and everything. But Jesse Calcy is more easier to be pronounced in. I changed it myself. And why I changed it was because the energy of Jesse Calcy connects better with my basic energy. I'm born on April the third, right? It's all Mars energy. And it flows better with that energy. And if you add this up as per the Kylian court, it adds up to a number 27. No kidding. Well, it's a beautiful name. It's got a great ring to it. And so I just want to go over a few of these points so people can follow. So when you're talking about changing my name, I'm super open, by the way. Just want you to know I'm really open to that. So how do you do that? How do you even figure out how to change somebody's name for them so that they can start to have a different experience out in life? Like, what would you do with my name? What would you do with anybody's name? See, with your name, you know, I would say the first one, your name, Debbie, I won't even touch. That's perfect. That's flowing really, really well. I would try to get a middle initial and see if that works. Or I would maybe add a letter to the last name. So the pronunciation does not change. I would keep the pronunciation the same. But the energy changes. You see how it is? You change the energy with a letter. And that can be done very easily. Play it with a little bit, takes a little time. And then we can do it, you know? And so what that would do is that will basically, you know, the energy would connect with the basic energy, which is your data, whether it's your case, it's really high energy. And once that connects, you know, and you start using that name everywhere on your business card or the way you start seeing it again or you start signing in that way, you'll see in a short period of time, just see how it shifts. You see a shift. Okay, so I know name, address and cell phone. And, you know, maybe we could talk about that offline. And so I just want people to hear this. So they're getting an idea of numbers in our life can be harmonizing and influencing. Think about your address, your business name, your hotel room numbers, numbers between partners. I mean, that's another subject altogether. That's huge. Timing of plans, bank account number, telephone number, license plate. So here you mentioned, Jesse, about homes. And I know that you're in real estate as well. So what do you do with a house number when you have one person with one set of numbers and a partner with another set of numbers, we won't even go into children. But how do you find what's negotiable between the two? Well, that's easy. We look at both data birds, you know, and then we get hybrid and neutral vibration, some energy that's going to kind of be compatible with both the partners, you know? And then accordingly, I suggest, now that this would be the best vibration for you, you know? And yeah, and I've done this over the years, you know, for many years and by the grace of God, it's worked for all my clients, you know? So yes, it's easy. It's not difficult. Steve, what happens is a lot of people, right? You know, the thing is I don't, you know, someone comes to me to consult with me and, you know, they say some of my clients absolutely insist that I go and, you know, find a property for them, you know? I tell them, no, I'm a little busy with this and that. No, no, no, no, you have to come with us. Like there's one client I had and she bought her daughter was a UC Berkeley grad and then she graduated and then I had bought a property for my mother many years ago and that made a lot of money. And then the mother insisted that I find her the house, right? So, and then we did actually, we got lucky with her. We found her condo in the bay right here in Emeryville and the number that I got for her was a number 14, right? It was really good. It was a fast, quick moving number and in no time it gained 100,000 in equity, right? So, but then my point is this, I don't, you know, if you say, Debbie, you come to me and then you say, Jesse, I'm looking for a house and, you know, I will not tell you that I'm a numerologist and you have to buy as, no, I'll never do that, you know, I'll never do that. And I will, I'll just go with you and I'll just, you know, and whatever you pick I'll buy for you and I won't put my opinion on you. But if people ask for it, then I will definitely give you my choice. That is when it comes to property buying and selling, yeah. I know that you talk about patches and people, I'm sure if they not yet read your book won't fully understand that. The idea of patches shifting energy and improving things. Jesse, talk about what is a patch and talk about how people can use it once they've learned through you what to do with it. Okay, so number patching, you know, it has my trademark, right? So this is about adding smaller numbers to existing numbers on a property, you know, could be a residence or even a business address or even a TV station. I patched crown for television in San Francisco one time many years ago and that got me a lot of media. So what happens is we add smaller numbers to the existing numbers. Like I said earlier, all numbers are alive. All these numbers have planetary energy, right? And so when we add a certain number to the existing numbers, it's like adding planetary energy or shifting the energy, right? And they are alive, they're vibrating all the time. And what happens is that will shift the energy. It's a very mysterious correction that will be seen with time, you know? It'll be, there'll be something will shift on the main door. You know, some news will come which will be positive, right? Some shift will happen which will take the occupants in the right direction, you know? Some news will come that will be positive something that they're waiting for a long time. So it's like that. And patching is something that I've done for many, many, many years now. And simply people come in most homes are kind of difficult places, right? They're not comfortable numbers and that's why people are struggling. And so when they approach me, I don't go tell everybody, go sell your house, no. I patch the houses for them, you know? To the best of my knowledge and experience and my intuition. And by the grace of God, it's been collecting really well over the years. Really, really well. Then I was just talking about Cronford television. That was the biggest one I passed many years ago was a station in San Francisco. I wonder if you know, it's a new station and then we packed the station and the energy shifted on the main door was really incredible. And I remember Dr. Phil came in after that and a lot of good things happened to them. Wow, okay. That's amazing. So, and it's interesting how many celebrities you've worked with in this country and India, do they find these two words of mouth or are these stories, they somehow make their way out there into the world? Yes. They were just like, you know, some just found me on my website and they see how they go digging around here and there and they, and then quite a few found me through my work, my books, you know? And then, yeah, that's how they found them. And then I happened to know some prominent people that I would consult with me. And then I didn't realize that they were, you know, major players in the industry, you know, and they kind of put my name out. So I never went to seek after any celebrity, you know? I mean, they just kind of, they just found me, you know? And it's nice, I like celebrities, but the ones that I've worked in India on some huge mega stars, you know, I find them very insecure, you know? They're always like anxious, you know? It's like, yeah, as if the next, you know, I don't know which big projects are gonna fall on their head and I was like that. And yeah, but it's interesting energy, but they're definitely very high-wide people. I mean, they're very, yeah, they're interesting people. But yeah, I have been very fortunate to connect with many. And then, yeah, they keep calling me once in a while. It's nice to talk to them. I'm laughing because I was just contacted by a celebrity who wants to work with me for my media trading. And when we got down to it, it's because of her nerves, of her anxiety. And she's stepping into something really big and that's wonderful and exactly what you are saying. Through the conversations we've had thus far, I've definitely experienced a lot of bravado as well as insecurity, sort of. Security, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, yeah. What is, it's always nice and all these, they come with these energies and all these gorgeous, beautiful memories. Yes, they're exotic creatures. And there's something about their personality, like you get the charisma and why they are. Yeah, it's very nice. It's interesting. And so also coming out of, if we are out of hopefully COVID-19, is there any significance in that name? Can you tell us anything about the pandemic because of 19? Yeah, actually, Debbie in my book, I think it's on page 180. So I've talked about COVID-19, right? And I've talked about the numerology of COVID-19 and I've also mentioned the energy of Uranus that came with it and the year 2020 and a lot of it. And then I've also mentioned an aspirin numerology I had said that it's about early 2023, now at least a year from now, right? When there'll be a better grip on the situation, right? Maybe a better grip. Thank God. Okay, so we still have what, eight more months to go before there's some respite? Yes, yes. I said to the end of this year, no? To the end of this year and I mentioned this last year. So yeah. Well, you also say that it's a really good idea to change our bank account number if it is not pulling in the energy opposite of money. I hope I'm saying that correctly. Yeah, you're right about that. So what happens is there's no banks, see the first thing is the bank account number is very important, but the bank that you bank with sometimes also has to connect with your energy, you see? You're gonna be going to a Wells Fargo or Bank of America or Chase, Jeb Morgan, you know, it's that energy the bank has to connect with you too, right? And the second thing, you know, it shouldn't open accounts in banks that are kind of tidier. There's no parking in all tight corner locations don't go there, you know? And but what happened in a, things have changed now but some years ago, what happened is you know, people walk into a bank and most account executives are very happy to open an account for you. So they'll throw all the accounts in front of you. So I want this number, this number, but that doesn't happen anymore, right? Now everything is kind of computer generated, right? They want to entertain you for any number. So there's no way to take this or no account, right? So for that, I suggest, you know, I personally like Thursdays and Fridays are good days, you know, Jupiter and Venus energy or maybe Friday is a good day to, you know, walk into a bank around 11 o'clock you know, 11, between 11 and one o'clock. And then the important thing is to look at the name of the bank. See in this book, I've talked about banks and their energies too. So if the reader, I mean, you look at the bank name and then you'll see there's some connection with your basic energy and that's the bank you need to go to, right? And an opening account there, but absolutely the bank accounts will hold money if they are in sync with your energy. Otherwise, you know, you'll always be, you know, you know, yeah. It's so interesting. You give a lot of examples in the book of different banks. So probably many people can find their particular bank in there if they go with the industrial corporate banks. I am with a credit union. I prefer credit unions and I'm with actually the actors credit union because I'm part of the union. So that makes me wonder because it's the entertainment business. It's, yeah, it's radio and television after SAD. So I'll have to do that based on what you show us in the book and see if that vibes with my energy. Sure, sure, you can do that. And also check the address of the building, you know, what the building address, look at that as well. And, you know, that'll give you some idea. I mean, if it has some Venus energy layers to say 15, 24, 33 or Mercury sustain that. Those are very good money numbers. You have very good numbers, Debbie. I'm telling you, fives and sixes on the court is very good. You just need to use them more. That's it. I'm in it. OK, whatever it takes, it sounds so incredible. I think upleveling is that's it, right? Wherever you are, everybody wants to go up. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And so this is a great question because you go so deep in the book. One of the things you talk about are a couple's bedroom. There was quite a few details in there. So this one in particular is about coordinating colors in a couple's bedroom for best results. Yeah, yeah. So is this again by virtue of looking at numbers and then you can ascertain needs to be moss green or, you know, pews or or beige or white or gray or et cetera. How do you know that? Well, you know, because over the years I've, you know, I see my clients have taught me a lot too. Let me put it this way, right? I've been blessed to meet, you know, thousands of people, right? And and I have learned a lot from my clients, too. You know, to be honest with you, you know, a lot of this. And numbers, of course, is more me, but a lot of this energy and, you know, meeting all kinds of people from, you know, from the bottom to the top, right? And, you know, then kind of seeing what went where, you know, that's how information came. Personally, I like I like the off-white color in the house, right, like off-white or, you know, like a cream. Cream, yeah. Those colors are pretty standard, you know, they are, you know, I don't like walls, which have different colors, like red and black and different colors, you know. Those, those, those energies always block, you know, the create challenges. You'll find that if you have kids going to school, they won't be able to concentrate. Husband, wife will have the best relationships, you know. And unexpected and strange things will keep happening all the time. Because those colors, the painting of walls, red in the house, you know, it's not a good idea. Or black color or dark purple. These are very heavy energies on house. Or dark gray, I assume. No, no, no, not dark gray, no. Light, you know, keep it light. Off-white cream is the best color. And then there's a certain direction, you know, like they say traditionally in the Vedic culture, but not, not these direction, right? You know, that is pretty much a direction from a lot of your wealth and a lot of energy flows towards you, right? Now, and, you know, if you have like a dark blue color there or some dark color, it's not good, you know. You basically block the flow of that universal wealth that has to come to your house. So these things, these things are very, very important. And then, you know, when people buy houses, right? And we all, we know that too. You know, when you buy a new house, right? It's always good to get it. No, I mean like an existing house and many of those painted, but a house in someone. You get all the walls painted, you know. You should paint the walls, you know, with a lighter color. So, you know, any negative emotion that's stuck on those walls is kind of removed, right? Clear. Interesting. You see. It's like saging your house with paint. Yeah, I love it. Exactly. Saging your house with paint. That's so well said. And the flooring and things like that. So I have many people that they've gotten to homes, right? And they were very happy to get a, oh, you know, the owner left us his bed. I said, oh my God. Oh, not a bed. Bed. Oh, never. Can't believe that. You never sleep in anyone's bed, right? Or he left us a couch. Or he left this. No, no, you don't keep anything there. Everything has to go with the owner, right? Clean it out and start again, right? Besides, you know, of course, start with the number and then that's how we look at it inside. And yeah. What about trim? So if everything's a light color or cream color inside, how about the trim inside a home? Trim's kind of lighter too. Some little lighter color. Keep it light, you know? Keep it light and yeah. Not, so then not, I mean, this is a poetic tradition. Not, not the best is a good point. This is one direction I really like for business, right? So not, not the West, right? That point right there, right? It's excellent. So, you know, if you, in that point, exactly the not, not the West, you know, should always place some, like a jar of money there, you know? Or place your business cards there. Or place your pamphlets, you know, your, see like in your case, you know, any advertising material or your books or anything or place a globe there. But it has to be not, not the West, globe for international business. I love that, that, I'm, I'm figuring that out. That is done, but also because I love travel so much. Oh my God. Not, not the West. So use your, you know, your compass and get that exact point, right? Place it exactly there, right? And that is actually for international business. And I was like, you're already international, but that was like that, you know, and you just seal it, right? And then, and all your promotion, all your business material goes from there. That's gorgeous. I imagine as you say that an altar, this is a different kind of altar, right? That has things like a jar of money and business cards or not many people use business cards anymore, but, you know, pieces of your business there plus a globe, it can be done really artfully and tastefully. Oh, absolutely. That'd be with a great intention, right? That would be magical, absolutely magical. And what was it that you said, Jesse, reiterate what you said about the Northeast? The Northeast you said is your wealth, correct? Not, yeah, Northeast is a very important direction in the Vedic tradition, right? It's, yeah, it is the wealth and it is that one portal, right? Which opens all the positive vibe that comes into your space, you know? And is there anything in particular that we should be putting there? No, that area should be clean, you know? Just keep it clean. No clutter in the Northeast part of the house, right? And don't even, and what they say is you shouldn't have a kitchen or a bathroom in the Northeast, you know, it's not considered to be good. Yeah, it's gonna keep it nice and open and clean right all the time. And typically people have some prayer rooms, a prayer room or some energy, that kind of energy there, right? In the Northeast corner and, or a lot of people who place some waterfront in there or many fish tank there, you know? So those things are very, I mean, very auspicious and for big business, you know, it's absolutely fantastic. See, like I've seen many homes in Los Angeles, you know, LA has these huge mansions and I've been to so many and I've seen a lot of them, you know, they've done it very cleverly, you know, the huge, this big mansion in Bradbury and it's about 12,000 square feet and it's a nice positive facing Northeast direction and right in front of the main entry door, down smack exactly about Northeast, they have this big Koi pond, right? Koi pond and lily pads, you know? You know, it's right there and then the water's kind of falling inwards all the time and the people lived there are super successful, incredibly wealthy like, have these kind of like a 20, 30 car garage and, you know? So the energy has been set in such a way, right? I'm talking about direction and what that can do. See what that element can do. Huge, huge. Huge, oh my God, so interesting. And you also talk about Rudraksha beads. Did I say that right? Absolutely. Those are my favorite actually, Rudraksha beads. Do you have some with you or? I don't. Talk about like, where would we get them? Who should wear them? Why? Rudraksha beads, yeah. Rudraksha beads, you know, this one gentleman forgetting his name he wasn't the secret to Joe. Joe Tully talked about Rudraksha beads. The tally? By Tally? Yeah, yeah. He wears those Rudraksha beads too, by the way. He wears those too. And I also know who gave it to him because that same lady knows me too. Oh, that's so interesting. Cool. He's been on the show before. He's awesome. Yeah, Joe. Yeah, it's interesting. So you were talking about Rudraksha beads but then let me tell you. So these beads are like, you know, they are the grown trees and it's like a fruit. And when you kind of open up the fruit there's a little seed that comes in. So now these trees are found in the northern part of the Himalayan kingdom of India, in the Himalayas, that range. It's called the Rudraksha trees that bear this fruit and seed. And then a lot come from Indonesia as well. But the ones that come from Nepal, that area have a very, very high frequency. Now see what happens is a human body is kind of vibrating at about eight or nine joules. Energy, you know? Eight or nine joules is our frequency, human body is about there. But some of these Rudraksha beads, they carry the energy, like 150 joules, 160 joules. The energy is so high in that. And that's pretty much forever. You know, they never go away. So some of these beads are kind of very expensive but they are grown by some very, very, very, very, you know, very, very, very, those kind of people, right? But I can definitely let you know where they're available and all that if you would like this. So now what happens is I'll give you this, that many facet is not just like cut on the bead is what you need to look at. But I kind of like the higher beads, you know? Like say for example, an 18 faceted bead, one eight, 18 faceted bead, I wear one too. So what an 18 faceted does is it works straight on the root chakra on the foundation, right? The tree, you know, how the tree grows, we have a strong foundation, right? So that works straight on the foundation. And what happens, where does money come from? Money comes from the root chakra, you know? The tree grows, right? That's how it grows. So if you have a strong root chakra, if your foundation is very strong, there'll be a lot of abundance in your life. You don't have to worry about anything. You know, your luck, it'll just keep climbing mysteriously. You know, that is the power of the Rudraksha bead. And then for women, you see, women have, you know, have very challenging lives and they bear children and you know how it is and they have a different anatomy. So this Rudraksha, the 18 faceted Rudraksha bead is excellent for women in general, you know? You know, for all women related issues, right? I strongly recommend an 18 faceted bead, right? And then for those who also want to be very successful and financially abundant, right? 18 faceted is an excellent bead, very high frequency, excellent. Then there's a 19, which is also really, really powerful. It's, you know, it has the energy of mercury. It'll give you, it's magical. And you'll have thoughts coming to your mind all the time. And you wonder, you know, how, you know, you certainly get an idea and you execute it, right? You get something, it'll come to your head and you'll find the answer. It's like that. So these are very interesting energies which people should definitely work with, you know? And there are genuine sources that sell these beads and you should definitely have some. Hey, so for folks who are interested, it's spelled R-U-D-R-A-K-S-H-A, Rudraksha beads. You mentioned earlier, Jesse, that Emerald would be great for me on my pinky or around my neck near my heart chakra. And then you mentioned either in silver or in white gold. I'm curious because gold actually is what looks amazing on me. Not, I do have this silver ring, this blue taupe has, and I bought it just cause it was stunning. But it's typically not my colors. But if I wanted to get gold, gold gold, is there a reason why the silver color would be better with the Emerald? Yeah, Emerald is a gold stone, right? So they're normally better with the gold metal. So if you see some very big stars in India, you know, like the most famous one is Mr. Amitabh Bachchan, right? He's the mega star, the king of Indian cinema. And if you see his hand, he always, not now, for years and years, he wears one in his right pinky finger and he wears a green Emerald, green Emerald, right? So, and then the others too, I mean, those who have that energy that works with an Emerald, they all use it in the entertainment business, it is supposed to be fantastic. You should definitely try one, WB Surprise, how it will change your, you know, how it will change the frequency around you and then you may as how magical it is. And does it matter left-hand, right-hand? Well, that is up to you. It wouldn't matter that much, you know? Whatever you feel conscious, just wear it. Okay. And typically, you start wearing it on a Wednesday, it's the best day for it, right? And then it's awesome for the media business it works with you, it's fantastic. One of the things that you get into also is about, you already talked about the root chakra where money comes from. And I know the balancing of chakras is something you place a lot of import on. Can you talk about that? Things that we should be aware of regarding our chakra system and how we can better align and have a vibration there? Yeah. So, you know, there's something called a chakra meditation, you know, and then, but then I have a little technique, you know, when I consult my clients all the time before you get into the reading, you know, I have a little, a small little technique that I use and, you know, I use some information when I try to balance the energy of the chakra as well as my client. And then once I do that, then we get into the reading, right? So just to kind of, you know, get in alignment, right? And that's really powerful. Let's say, for example, you're a hard chakra, right? Manifestation or manifest creation. Like I said earlier, a 19-faceted chakra is fantastic. Even if you're having any issues with your heart, you know, if you're worried about the energy of your heart chakra, you know, a lot of women have this breast cancer energy, you know, it comes right around the heart chakra area. So something like a 19-faceted Lugracha beetle handled it beautifully. It'll just kind of, you know, keep that energy balanced completely, you know, the heart chakra energy, and then it'll, and you can manifest, you know, whatever you want, it'll be pulled to you. It'll be pulled to you. Then the root then also for a lot of people and who are into, you know, the meditation, I'd say a 17-faceted is good for the third eye, you know, a 17-faceted radius one about here. That works really, really well too. So these, and the beauty is, sometimes you can wear them and sometimes you can just place it in your space, but they still keep working with the same energy, you know, endlessly, you know, they're there and they'll keep working with the same energy. Then there's one Lugracha bead, which is very expensive. It's the 21-faceted. The 20-faceted Lugracha bead and, you know, I was talking to somebody lately in the sale of $50,000 or something. So that represents the energy of Lord Kubera as the God of money, you know, as the Indian tradition, God of money, Lord Kuber. So, you know, all these huge industrialists and, you know, people who are doing extreme wealth, right? All of them carry that one bead with them, I know it. So, and that's how it is. It has the power to, you know, of huge, massive, huge money energy, you know. It's like the wealth that you create is basically given to you so that it's not for you to hold it, it's for you to help the world, you know. You know, you can't be greedy, right, you know how it is. So if you, something like that comes to you and you're a massive amount of wealth, then the guys say, no, hey, listen, mister, use it for others too. We didn't give it to you only. It's like that. And a business, you're talking about people are very successful. So how does somebody look or how do you look at the numbers in a business? What is it the business name? Is it the address of the business? Is it everything? How do you calculate that? And how do you know how to realign somebody? Yeah, so business energy is the same. This is a time for business energy, right? So nor depends on what kind of business you're getting into. Is it a startup in the Silicon Valley? Or are you gonna name a project for, you know, it's a release on a Netflix movie. I don't know what it is, right? Could be anything, right? So that depends on the energy of that kind of work, entertainment or the people who are producing it, right? The people who have put their money on the project, right? We'll have to work with their frequency, you know? We'll have to work with their frequency, their best numbers and then title it accordingly, you know? But typically what happens is I've seen that Venus was one of your numbers. Venus is an excellent number to have on your movie titles because Venus rules the media. Venus rules the film industry. It rules television. So Venus is one excellent energy to have on the names all the time. Even the energy of moon, right? Moon's very mystical, magical moon energy also is really good for the media. So these two energies would always be there, you know? And then if we come into communication, right? If it is an internet company or something to do with the media, so the Mercury works really well there. Or even Sun, you know, the energy of number one, you know? If they got some very big companies like, you know, Infosys or Google or, you know, the big names that carry the number one Sun energy with them, you know? Or depending if it is a food business, like say, that name is Safeway or the name is something with food, right? That's always works with Neptune, number seven. Seven is excellent for that kind of McDonald's, see? Seven, so that energy goes like that, you know? So... You have any stories about someone who chose something with the wrong number and how it hurt them or became really unlucky or went bad? Yeah, many like that. Many. Many, you know, I had this one gentleman here, a friend of mine right here in the city where I live. This is this young, these young three guys and they had, they had a lot of money and they got into the, they bought this huge, you know, it's like a hall and a big food business here. And when they put all their money together to buy this huge facility and, you know, they thought we'll have the best place, eating place in the city here. And they did what they did, right? But the number was completely off and they lost all their money, just sank, you know? It did not run at all, you know? So that's more like kind of copy people, you know? So my point is that, you know, someone is successful, right? This is sort of someone is Debbie Desinger and if she is good at what she is, you can't just copy her blindly, right? Because see that, that's all it is, you know? So you have to look at your own strength, right? And you might not know it, but someone can point it out to you, right? Just follow that. And that's what I believe in, you know? But I have, I've had many such heavy stories, you know? And yeah, where people, people lost loads of loads of wealth, you know? And they just, you know... It must be crazy if somebody invites you to their birthday party and then you know so much about them. It's like you can choose if somebody's in your life, not in your life, you're great to hang out with, maybe not so much. Yeah, but the thing is though, when they get together, somebody always has to be positive, right? You can't, you want people to be happy, you know? Even sometimes you know that the numbers are lousy here, but we'll still try to bring the, something positive out of it, right? You want to leave a positive message every time, you know? So that's how I look at it, you know? And yeah, but yeah, there's many, I was one that went right here in Stanford one time, they invited me there for my first book and all that, looking at numbers and all that. And there were a few there, but I just kind of just said the right words and kept everybody happy, you know? Let's see if you can tell somebody, oh, your numbers are lousy. Oh. Yeah, not so good. Yeah, you wanna do that. So why are our birthdays so powerful? Why, what can we learn from the number or from our birthdays when we were born? Why is that so important? I think it's your karma, right? You know, you're coming, all your previous life karmas, right? You're born again, right? And you have to, you know, clean up that karma again, right? You have to work again. And then if you've done good karma in your past, I'm sure you come down as, you know, maybe Bill Gates or, you know, some big energy or, see, going back to that quickly, see a lot of number 19, number 19 or 28 people, right? They come with good karma in their previous lifetimes and they always end up being luckier than a lot of people. And but what happens is, you know, when they, I've seen this all the time, you know, they come in and then they get extravagant, right? They become careless. They have very poor relationships or they have many relationships or they will get married and they'll cheat on their spouses. You know, so I've seen this all the time, right? But they're always in a good position of good high on the ladder, but right? They do it every single time. So they came with good karma but they, you know, they, you know, as human beings, they just went on a tangent, right? So I've seen this all the time with a lot, a lot of people. You see, you look at President Clinton, right? I mean, he did a whole bunch of stuff. And look at this gentleman, a Microsoft, this guy who owns Microsoft, pretty much the same thing, right? But, you know, so that energy is there. You know, we had the former prime minister of India who was kind of, you know, same 19 energy, you know, she was into a whole bunch of stuff. So many books came out later, right? But see, she was placed as the prime minister, but, you know, energy was completely out. You see how it is? It's completely out. So, but what I believe in is that a good, a good date of birth, of course, came with good karma for how you use it as a human being is two different things, you know? Completely different things. Interesting. And, you know, one of the things you go into in the book is about master numbers. And you actually even had a take on, I always thought that, oh, 11-11, it's magical. It means great things are coming. And when I first started dating the man that I live with now, I never even thought about that 11-11 phenomenon and all of a sudden it was happening all the time. And I thought, well, okay, that must be a good sign, but is it? In your case, 11-11, for you, maybe if you see five-fives more, you know, it'll be really better, you know? Yeah, it'll be better. But your numbers are completely different, right? Your numbers are completely different. And then I think whoever is attracted to you is just attracted because of your high frequency. You know, relationships are never a problem for you. They're all drawn to these numbers, right? But then with answering the 11-11, I wouldn't, for you, I'd say, if you see more fives, you know, fives, fives here and there, then you'll see positive vibes coming to you. And see, in your car again, that the car that you drive should, if you see if you have a car which has like a triple five behind it, right? Three fives, five-five-five there, you know? We're awesome, you see? Awesome. And so that's mercury three times. But the fives on a car, as with fives kind of problem with you, it'd be fantastic. You know? Amazing. Yeah, yeah. And why? Because in the, you know, if you have four number rings in your car, the messages that are coming will be really good, you know? It'll be safe inside your car. I remember one time I had this one gal. She was a, some Hollywood actress. I mean, just some years ago, and she was talking to her and she told me about her car. And her boyfriend had gifted her an expensive Porsche, right? And we're looking at the numbers and I said, no, no, no, this red Porsche and I want to work for you. And so she said, then she told me this whole story. So she's up on highway 405, right? And that red Porsche, right? It was rear-ended. And she told me the whole story. I said, yeah, I was telling you that this number and this color, I'm going to work for you. So she was happy to have a free car. But it was not lucky, see? So we wanted, we want something that's lucky, you know? You know, I think that's so fascinating what you're sharing, because we're groomed in a way by the media to go, oh, 11-11 magic. Oh, you know, 11, 22, 33, these are master numbers. Oh, and it's just what I hear from you is it's not so for everybody. When you have your numbers done correctly, then you can pick and pull, not this, that won't work for you, but this is lucky and will attract what you prefer. Absolutely. See the number 11, like talking about the number 11 master number, right? See, I've seen a lot of people and I've consulted over the years having, you know, some psychic said, oh, 11 house number or ticket, it's a master number ticket. See, 11 on a house number, I can tell you, will absolutely bring in money problems and your relationship. 11, if you research this in your own circle of friends and all right, 11, and even has a zero, they're 101, 11, 110. Absolute relationship challenge, you attract the wrong people, guaranteed. And certainly money will go in a tangent, absolutely. You know, I had this one gentleman, he's pretty high from, actually he was a, he spoke to him the day before yesterday, he's an eye surgeon and he's in Southern California. I've been to his place a few times. So when my first book came out, he wanted me to come and see him, which I did. His house number was a number 11, right? And he was into surgery, eye surgery, daily basis. So when I went to see this guy, right, there was, he was from this African country and then he was there and his wife was there. And then there was another guy sitting there, right? So, and then he was just chatting and so, and then whatever numbers and all this. I said, this number outside, I said, sir, it doesn't work with your data, what should we do? So what we did was we use a number four between the two ones. We use a four because son and Neptune are like mirror images, you know? So one, four and a one, right? We used it that way. And so what that did was that shifted the energy because the girl who was sitting there with his wife was actually his mistress. And she was in and out of the house all the time. And the poor wife was like, oh, you know, saggy face down, so miserable, right? And she used to call me once in a while, did the numbers and all that, but things have changed now. So they sold their house last year for a really happy amount of money and he's renting now in a different place and he's still practicing his medicine and it really bleeds me a lot for some strange reason. And, but that's what the master number can do, you know? See how it is. Yeah, you know, I'm curious too. I have a client. Of course, I can't say much about her because I would protect anybody's name and business, but she's in much the same business as you. And one of her websites is 1111. I wonder if that is not working for her. No, no, no, no. I wouldn't put 1111 there, no. Much be with your own numbers. Just don't copy anybody blindly, no. I will never do that. I'll have her listen to this for sure. So people listening who are going, wow, this is incredible. How can they use this power? How can they just find certain numbers? Do they look for emails? Do they look at their passwords? How do they choose dates for success, all of that? Where's the place to start? And talk about emails and passwords. Those are very important too, right? Yeah, those are very, very important. See, for you, I'd suggest one password. Shall I give it up? We'll talk about it later. Yeah. This is hilarious. Wow. We'll do your password after the show, and I don't want the whole world to know your password. Thank you. Okay, this is okay. Yeah, so yeah, emails, like you said, it's great, very important, right? You know, emails also have to have the energy of, you know, it comes with good information, right? So those numbers that come on your email, right? You can tag them as your basic energy, you know? Like, you know, Denise07, if that's your best number, right? So it's like that, you know? And yeah, so emails, and then your, like what you just mentioned, your personal codes, right? What are you using? Your bank accounts or your, you know, if you have, you know, stock portfolios or whatever. Those numbers are very, very important. You know, has to have the right passwords too. So now your question is, where do you get all this information? Now, see what happens is, because there's so much information, right? And there are many sources to get this information, you know? But my books are one. You know, the thing is, my book, this book that we've talked about all about numbers, right? So now this, in order to say that, this book has a lot of information, right? It's applied information, I've lived it. But then also, I like to tell your audience and the listeners that this is not a how-to book, you see? It's important to understand that. You know, I don't want someone to buy the book and say, hey, you know, we want it to know this pass and it's in how it is because there's so much information and it's impossible to put everything in one book. You see? So, you know, looking at someone's numbers and then consulting with them is one way or there are some very smart savvy people who can just read books and then try to get some information for themselves, depending on how we're just going to come to them, you know? And there are many people, you know, I've had many clients, you know, who call me and then say, oh, you know, we were just driven to talk to you, you know? The other day I had this one lady, you know, up in Texas here and she lost her husband and all the executive and he suddenly went on a tangent, the 24-year-old son passed away and her whole life's kind of gone upside down. So, and then I looked at the numbers completely out, right? And then she said, I've consulted some people but I was just drawn to talk to you. So it comes like that, right? It's like the universe will send that person to you. Yeah, it's beautiful. And what about you, Jesse? What do you do every day that keeps you grounded? What kind of ritual or practice do you do on a daily basis? I, you know, I start my day with gratitude and I say my prayers and I'm always grateful for everything God's given me, you know? And then I like to, you know, go to the gym a little bit, I like to ride my bike with my son, you know, and spend time with him. And then I kind of like to be quiet. You know, I don't want to, I just like to spend my time very quietly, you know, go and sit at the lake someplace, but I like the water though. I like, you know, the waterline, you know, Southern California, you know, by the waterline, the Malibu area, by the waterline there, maybe here in San Francisco, this area. I like the water, yeah. There you go. So you have a little puppy there. So- And this is shared a dream, Jesse. What are you next shared a dream? What are your future dreams or goals? I want to write some more, you know, write some more books and then I want to, I want to do some work and, you know, and, you know, in the film industry, in the Hollywood industry, you know, maybe put some something out in the system, something like a film or something like a documentary or something on Netflix, you know, some energy like that kind of for the masses, you know? So that this information is passed out to more people, you know? So people could benefit in some way, but it's just the thought I've put it out there. We'll see how it comes back or in what way it will manifest, so. So you're talking about specifically about the work you do with numbers. You'd like to have something out there on a Netflix-type channel? Yeah, yeah. You know, where, you know, more like television when you sit down, you know, and people call and you answer questions or more positive energy like that, right? And yeah, but I do a lot of radio, you know? I was on this one last week, it was one in San Diego Morning News and a couple of, so those keep coming, but I want to kind of get, get out of the radio waves and kind of be more visible, you know? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I could see you doing this. So anyone listening? You have connections, you're a showrunner, you know who to reach out to. And what would you like to say here at the end, Jesse, anything that you'd like to tell the listeners? So what I like to say is this, and I want to pay attention to your numbers, you know? Pay attention to where you live, you know? And if you, and just see what's happening around you. If you're not very happy in your work environment, if you're not happy in the relationships or other things in your life, right? Do look at this energy of numbers around you because the thought here is to find your basic energies and to fine tune your life for the highest resonance, right? So give this perspective, this angular little thought to live a better life, to live a happier life. To live a better, happier life. And if you'd like to find out more about him and his work, go to jessecalci.com. J-E-S-S-E-K-A-L-S-I dot com. And I end today's show with this quote, numerology is the bridge between who you are now and who you have the potential to be. Subscribe to this number one transformation conversation Dear to Dream with Debbie Daschinger. If you're listening on podcast and you'd like to see what myself and my guests look like, the animation, I think is the best way, go to youtube.com slash Debbie Daschinger. Leave a comment, subscribe. I love hearing from you guys. Next week on the show, I am featuring sister Jenna who is an emotional wellness expert, author, radio and TV personality and founder of the Brahma Kumaris Meditation Museums in Virginia. Thanks for joining us today, folks. And remember, don't just Dear to Dream. Dear to have your numbers done so that you can make all your dreams come true with great ease.