 Hey everybody, welcome back to the next cast. I'm your host met. I'm joined by Tyler. How are you doing Tyler doing good? So we're back for another Linux cast we talk about Linux and other open source stuff and this week is going to be no different So what have you been doing this week in Linux? Well, I have hopped back over and has started using Qtile again it's It's I'm glad to be back. I I did like DWM And I do still like DWM. I don't care for the patching as everyone says, but I didn't have to leave DWM. I just decided I'd hop back over on Qtile And yeah, I don't think I'm gonna be going back over to DWM anytime soon. I I like Qtile I like where I'm at. Qtile's good. I like Qtile. Um, I Don't have installed right now, which is like usually it's one of the ones that I do have installed But Qtile is good. Um Right now the ones I have installed are DWM awesome and Xmone ad Xmone ad has not seen any business for me in a week. I was about to say Xmone ad probably won't be visited again Yeah, for a while. I'm not gonna uninstall it Because the developer of Xmone actually came into the comment of my last video and said that I could get an IRC and ask questions So eventually I might do that but right now I'm still kind of You know, yeah, yeah, I I don't know about Xmone adds one of those things where like I Just don't see the point like for one if you're not already like into Haskell like I don't really see the point But everyone who loves Xmone it out there what we'll tell you that's ridiculous just it's it's awesome You need to use it, but I don't know I've always preferred Qtile over Xmone ad just because it's Python like it's it's easier to get around in and I know I've said this before probably here on the podcast, but Qtiles not slow like it being Python based does not make it slow It DWM is you can sort of maybe tell there's a it's a it's faster on a slow system But yeah, you'd be be hard-pressed to show me numbers where I'm like, oh, it's way faster That whole stereotype of Python being slow is just so totally overblown I mean, yes, there are some applications out there written in Python that are slow But that just seems like it's poor development and not Python being slow now Compiling Python is slower. So if you have to compile something in Python is slow So maybe that's where the stereotype comes from but actually using the programs and stuff and using the window managers It's written in I don't find it to be slow at all Yeah Yeah, all right. So before we before I jump into mine Just let everybody know who's watching the video version of this. I went through and created scenes for the split version and you know big videos for both Tyler and I and I'm gonna be crap at switching between those at the appropriate times. So I'll get it. It's just the first time. Just leave me alone. I'll get it. It's gonna be okay. Alright, so just gotta practice Well, see I I just created the scene so When I get the map to keybinding is a little bit easier So I've been messing around with a program called keymapper now keymapper is a cool little program That allows you to have multiple keyboards So if you have like a stream deck or something like that You could go through and use this program to you on Linux to associate those little buttons on the stream deck to certain keybinding so I Can't afford a Stream deck, but and I'm gonna show this to the camera I bought one of these things you can't really see it because it has a Like a ton of RB RGB. So it kind of blows out the camera. It's so bright. I've been using it as a nightlight But it basically it's a Has about 24 keys on it like you really can't see it but um, it's just like a keyboard like 60 bucks on Amazon and then I use keymapper to go through and Associate each of these Keys with a certain keybinding and OBS and I have my own little stream deck. So That's what I've been messing around with. It's really cool. It's kind of janky sometimes At the at least at the beginning because you have to make sure you start the associated service with keymapper Otherwise when you restart your computer or log out of your window manager, it doesn't work And that's not something that they actually should tell you to do in the documentation Unless you've compiled it from source they tell you if you've compiled it from source to do it But not if you install from the AOR. So if you even if you install from the AOR You have to install start the service yourself But once you do it's really great and The only thing I don't care for about this keyboard this keyboard I bought it doesn't have any modifier keys So if I wanted to create like a second layer of keybindings, I couldn't do that Because it just doesn't have any modified here's modifier keys other than Tab and escape and those aren't really modifier keys. So I wish I had a shift button. That's my only sad face about that, but it's really cool and Maybe someday I get like because the stream decks they're really nice because you can like change the screens of those little buttons So they can go through and like, you know what you're talking about like these are just like It says QWERTY on it. It's just it's just a keyboard even though it the T in the is in the wrong spot But anyways, yeah, that's what I've been doing It's cool. That sounds awesome and as somebody who owned a streamed stream deck and had a dog chewed through it Stream decks are way overpriced Way overpriced. Well, yeah, they're like, I don't know like a hundred and ninety nine dollars or two hundred bucks or something and I mean, maybe someday, but I just don't I Want first, I mean I wanted to do it this way first because I wanted to make sure that this system would work And then maybe someday I'll invest in that but this I mean this seems to be working perfectly fine And also when it comes to Linux getting a stream deck working like half decent is Pretty difficult. There's some programs out there that are for it, but They're they're normally pretty chank Yeah, I think this key mapper would actually work fairly well because it would just read it as another keyboard Cuz it'll actually go through and work with like your mouse or whatever So like I have this MX master 2 and there's like a Button on here that I didn't know about it gets underneath your thumb I like I had no clue that was a button But if you get into this key mapper software You can actually select this mouse as the source and remap any of the buttons to whatever you want So yeah, so it works with mice it works with keyboards and it works with it would work with a key with a stream deck So yeah, it's really cool and it's on a good hub I'll put a link in the show notes if I remember to do it. If not, it'll be in Somewhere you just search for key mapper So, yeah, that's what I've been doing. 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It was bad We don't need to talk about that ever again. That was just the worst transition to anything ever and apparently there's Words that need to be said that can't be said because I don't know how to say them That's just way too. It's sorry. So every week Tyler and I pick a news link of the week So Tyler, what is your news link? Mine is Arbian? it's the 21.05 release just just got well released and It's The article that I linked to it's really what I found interesting about it had Nothing to do with what the article is about because it's talking about you know that the new features or updates and support That's that comes with it. I Wanted to talk about the fact that can we get more linux distributions that have Names like this Arbian. It's just it's it's Debian for arm. It it's it rolls off the tongue. It sounds good. It's not confusing I feel like a lot of linux distros out there could learn a thing or two from this Maybe I'm wrong there, but Just wanted to see your opinion on it. So it reminds me of Raspian mm-hmm, like but This is kind of like more general purpose for things that aren't just the Raspberry Pi, right? So it looks very interesting so defaults to X FCE Also supports, you know, well, I mean that sounds like bloat to me Support X FCE man, you don't need to bring on that extra stuff. What is no now I I I do like the fact that they have improved Nvidia Jets and nano support because I've I've really wanted to get me one Of those and play around with it. I think they're really neat. You'll have to explain that to me. What is that? It's a it's it's it's Essentially like an SoC like a Raspberry Pi, but with a dedicated Nvidia chip on it as well So you can do a lot more interesting things There are quite a few people out there who think that you're gonna get like something like a Jets and nano and turn it into like an Nvidia shield or something They're not the same thing. It's a it's a development board. It's not the same thing. It's not meant to be a home home PC I have talked to somebody who legit thought they were just gonna buy it Install Android on it and make it into a shield as far as I know. That's not how it It's it's that's not how it works, but I think they're really cool I want I want to get one and play with it for sure They're also not too expensive. What are they? Are they are they they're not as cheap as the raspberry stuff? They're right Yeah, they're definitely not that cheap. I I think they're I can't remember what the nano is, but I know the regular Jets and was like I don't know how much it was at launch, but I know that you can get it for like a round a hundred hundred fifty dollars So I think the nano is is about the same price. Maybe a little bit cheaper But they're they're really cool boards. I want to play with one pretty bad and then you can put this arm be a knot Yeah, see if I were to get one of those I'd probably put manjaro arm on it Just because you know arch Like if they don't want to deal with apt and stuff It's you know, just the way that I would work But eventually my eventual goal is to get a raspberry pie and create a NAS But I really want to build my own NAS because the if you buy like a regular NAS box like on Amazon or whatever There's a really really expensive and then you still have to buy Hard drives on top of it and hard drives are really being expensive. So and Now this is a little bit off topic, but I'll go ahead and say it because we're talking about NASA's when it comes to cheap NASA's Typically, you don't want to buy them. I don't know if you've seen it, but I can't remember what the company's name is It starts with like a Q But they just had it's a NAS like manufacturer And they just had a yeah. Yeah, and they just had a huge huge malware Yeah, pretty bad I'll lead into the big topic later on. So all right, let's go ahead and move to my News item of the week and mine is hold on a second. We'll get this up on the screen here So nitrix is a Linux distribution that is based on Debbie and said and the developer that Develops nitrix has been going back and forth with the maintain our distro watch Because the distro watch page for them displays it as if it's as if the distribution is based on Ubuntu and apparently the distro watch guys don't think that the Distribution is based on Debbie and said they think it's based on Ubuntu and they think that the the nitrix guy is lying about it for some Weird reason and they're refusing to change it and they have a whole bunch of stuff in the description of the distribution that is apparently wrong and Then the it's this whole drama of the nitrix guys demanding an apology For the distro watch being the what the distro watch guys being douchebags So there's I mean, this is the kind of drama that the Linux guys kind of you know, this is the nerdiest drama drama so but it's The reason why I linked to this was mostly so that we can say that distro watch is the is dumb Yeah, I think just think that distro watch is the dumbest thing now. I Understand it has a function But it it it's kind of like the Oscars, you know, it feels political to me You know, well, I was about to ask so what's the function of distro watch? well, it's supposed to be a like a Like a dump for all the Linux distribution release news and it is If you go if you if you just go there to keep an eye on what distros have been updated and released It's really good. You know, it actually Serves that function, but it's the extra pieces that it tries to do It's kind of they've like they've tried to create an IMDB style Thing for Linux distribution. So they have a distro ranking thing for Linux distros, but it's not like Those are the most popular distros. That's just how many page views those distros have gotten on distro watch, right and It's really easy to write like a Python script to have a bot go to that Page like 25,000 times a day or whatever and that's the reason why supposedly MX Linux has made it to the top of the list For the last six months now that doesn't mean that MX Linux is bad MX Linux is actually really good But that we all know everybody knows if they were actually counting downloads and stuff like that Ubuntu would be the top distro Everyone uses Ubuntu. There's like five people in comparison. There's like five people who use other distros I mean everybody uses Ubuntu So this watch, I mean, that's just one area where this watch is done but it seems like About three times a year the maintainers of distro watch get into her fuffles with Linux distro maintainers over stupid shit like this So first of all the night guy, he knows what his distros based on He has no reason to lie now like He it was at one point Based on partially based on Ubuntu It was based mostly on Debian, but it you pulled from Ubuntu repo so they had access to snaps and Most more software and stuff, right? But now it's almost all Debian said in app images They don't pull from the Ubuntu repos But the distro guy distro watch guys won't change it for whatever reason because they think they're lying, which is I mean first of all What? Yeah, what purpose would he have to lie? It's so so silly Now I don't think that I I'm not one of those people who think that you have a right to demand an apology. So I mean first of all just It's okay, man. Just calm down. So this I just want to read this like this is the the response that in this open letter I'm see if I can find this scrolling down Okay, in the open letter the nitrous guy says because of this We make a request publicly that you and your staff amend their ronious information that you display on your website About our product including logos names links descriptions and versions. Additionally, we demand an apology in italics so Emphasized From you and the staff member responsible for the incident that finally led to this open letter Our request is non-negotiable and we will not accept anything less from our demand. So first of all Dude, what are you gonna do? What kind of leverage do you have to demand the apology? I like you don't have any leverage I mean, what are you? I mean, are you gonna sue that man? It seems like I mean a waste of a lawyer And a lot of money, right? I mean Just calm down. Yes district watch the maintainers district watches douche bag I Think most people can agree that he likes drama and gets embroiled in stuff like this all the time So we can all agree on that but it's just move on Like understand that He probably wants this change so people can who go to district watch to get the information Aren't misinformed as to his district. So I mean that makes sense But I don't think people are going to not use his district just because the the information is wrong Most people don't look at the information on district watch anyways They just find it a distro and district watch and then click on the website link So put a big banner on your website saying how yo district watches wrong We're based on Debbie and said and then everybody who clicks on as we like What the fuck is Debbie and said? It's just I think it's weird because like why why By so hard about it because I Know I'm I might be in the minority here But I don't look at district watch at all and when I go to district watch I take everything on district watch with a grain of salt. I view district watches Just a very heavily Misinformation prevalent platform like they there's a lot of You have to know about district watch and exactly what district watch is to not get confused when you go to the site Because most people view those rankings and think oh these are the most popular Linux sisters No, not by any not by any means So I don't I don't know like to get upset enough to demand an apology from district Watch I Have a feeling it's just one of those things where he's been going back and forth with him over this small issue For so long and it's gotten so he did privately that now it's he's just fed up But still I don't know how you don't type out a letter like this and like halfway there you go Now now that I've had a minute to think about it. I think I might be a little too hot-headed right now Yeah, I'm gonna take a breath. All right, so I'm about to drop something I'm going to fix this district watch. I'm gonna fix it right here on the podcast Not technologically, but I got the idea that needed to fix district watch district watch should not have a maintainer at all District watch should be Wikipedia. It should be compute community maintained at all the district pages all the Rankings and everything like that should all be done by the community So when a page needs to be updated the community does it now granted obviously Wikipedia not necessarily the most accurate place in the world but When there's misinformation and stuff like that other people can go on there and create it there's stuff There's source links and all that kind of stuff. It should be community maintained not maintained by just a small group of people This is open source software. It should be open source You should be able to find district hub on github or district watch on github, you know I completely agree To your to your point about misinformation Well, I mean, it's not like district watch isn't already like Wikipedia. It's already just as misinformed as Wikipedia is so The community pitch in and maintaining it. I don't I don't think that could possibly make it any worse Oh, I think it'd be way better because I mean I mean yes, there's good there's Areas like especially the political stuff on Wikipedia That's just horribly biased and something gets changed every day because the two sides are like fighting or whatever but For the most part if you go to something like look up Abraham Lincoln or something like that You're gonna find mostly fairly good information now. You won't want to use it in some kind of scholarly paper or something I mean that'd be dumb, but For the most part you can believe what you see on what Wikipedia I think that'd be that I think it'd be even more so here because there'd be no reason for the community to say Uh, lie about what a distribution is based on All right Enough of that nonsense. Let's go ahead and move to the main topic. So the main topic this week is a question does Linux need antivirus and When I came up with this I was thinking more along the line of you know virus software and viruses and stuff, but With the like the ransomware hack to happen here in the United States this week this last week It made me more think about a just a more broader question. Does Linux need like antivirus and anti malware software because It seems to be that this is going to be a much bigger problem than it used to be so Tyler. What are your thoughts? I Think Linux Doesn't need antivirus in the same way that Windows does I think I think eventually we will see Antivirus on Linux and by antivirus on Linux. I'm talking about useful Antivirus on Linux. I'm sure there's already antivirus made for Linux. Microsoft defender exists for Linux Your story it does Like it's there a soul on earth that runs it. I don't I don't know I'm sure there probably is like five people at Microsoft who run Linux like they're there They live in a closet. They They're the Linux developers for Microsoft. They focus on like Microsoft teams and the edge browser for Linux And in their little closet, they need to use Linux But they also have to have virus software because they work in You know they work in a virus So those are probably the five people that use Microsoft defender But it does exist you can actually go through and download it and use it on your computer now Why you would do that? I don't know. I'm but you know, I'm also fairly certain that Norton make something for Linux I'm pretty sure now. I could just have been making that up in the back of my mind somewhere completely possible I have a very good imagination, but I'm pretty sure I remember this somewhere that Norton makes Linux software as well It might not have been more than it might been McAfee, but something but so Linux Antivirus and antimalware stuff does exist. It's it's there. You can download it now if you want to don't download it now Yeah, we'll see that's the thing I think one day there might be a valid reason for having antivirus on Linux But Linux is it's just not a like running antivirus on Linux feels like trying to install Norton on like open nbsd like You're running a secure operating system from the ground up and you're trying to tack on something That's not needed. I feel like that's what you're doing when you try install antivirus software on Linux now There's just no real-world use case for it But I foresee a day when there definitely is a use for it I still think viruses will never be as prevalent and as vicious as they are on Windows At least eat like on Linux. It's just harder to contract a virus than compared to Windows Windows written for Windows, right? Yeah, they're dot exe files. They can't run on Linux very easily. I mean like let's use wine to run a virus Silly alright, so for the most part I agree But I think that this is a question that needs to be split into two parts depending on and I think it depends on who you are so if you're Matt and you're Tyler and you're just a dude running Windows or running Linux on your Standard computer and using it to browse the web and stream YouTube videos and stuff like that No, you don't need antivirus software right now and probably installing it would actually slow your computer down and Actually act like a virus But if on if you're a company that runs a whole bunch of Linux servers, I can see Then you wanting some kind of protection against malware even if the malware on Linux isn't as prevalent because I Think maybe not antivirus so much as anti malware because you There is malware written for Linux and it's growing every day But all that stuff is targeted towards the servers and people who use Linux in a corporate environment so people who maybe run a pipeline or something, you know, I can you know Those kinds of uses for Linux. I think do need some type of protection now what that protection is I'm not sure it is. It's not Microsoft Defender. We'll just put that out there Right now. It's not Microsoft Defender. It's I Can think of three thousand choices that would be better. Well, the biggest thing if you're All right, so let's just step off the step back a little bit and get more general doesn't matter what operating system you're on the best anti-malware virus Protection is you. Okay. Don't click on links in emails That should be like the first thing you learn when you're using a computer. Don't click on links and emails ever Okay, it doesn't matter if you know the person the link was sent from don't click on it. It's not a good idea Relatedly don't open up emails From people you don't know Don't even open them. So if you get an email that says you got a $500 gift card from Target Don't open the email because I guarantee you didn't win a $500 gift card from Target You didn't win a laptop. You didn't win a million dollars. The IRS isn't coming to arrest you Don't open those emails. Those are scam emails. They either want you to they either want to catfish you or They want to con you out of money send them gift cards from iTunes Or they want to sell something on your computer Those are the only purposes that those sometimes both. Yeah, maybe both, you know, just email only email People you know and never click on links and the same thing for Facebook Don't friend people you don't know on Facebook because it's the same thing as email They'll send you links. They'll send you stuff via chat. They'll want to chat you up and try this, you know Whatever You know, so these are just general security things and then I add on top of that Maybe don't use password for your password Just I mean one two three four is not a secure password. I can break it via You know, I don't know any Python at all like zero Python But I could write a Python script to break that password or write it and see I could whatever it's it'd be so easy don't Just use a password manager. It's okay If you're worried about some company having access to your password, they have self-hosted password managers You can download bit warden host it yourself. You can use pass You can use key past xc. You can use and pass any of these things all of them have set self-hosted options So that that rant was mostly being no, I don't think that Linux needs malware protection I think Computer users need to be fucking smarter isn't my thing I agree because Malware doesn't get on your system And I'm talking about just regular users It doesn't get on your system unless you agree to put it on your system for the most part There's not some hacker out there just randomly targeting small people because it's not lucrative enough to target just one person For the most, I mean, that's your name's Bill Gates Then maybe you should have some protection But if you're just regular Joe Snow working for minimum wage, you don't have enough money for tar from for hackers to go through and want to Steal all of your money because guess what you don't have any money. Okay? You poll Just put you a poll boy You don't you know, so don't worry about that just be smart on the internet Now if you have money or you're a giant corporation then the equation changes because you have something to lose Now that doesn't mean I Mean if it almost seems like I'm making light of the fact that's you know There's some individuals that do get caught up by ransomware just regular old individuals But again, that's almost certainly the fact that you clicked on something You didn't follow the basic rules of security, right and and taking care of yourself online You saw an ad online that said I don't know if you've seen this before but they have those little like flashing Flash ads that say your computer is affected click here to you know It feels like for the last three weeks I've been picking on old people I'm not picking on old people because young people are fucking dumbasses to click on those things I'm more talking about people who aren't necessarily Computer literate they see those things like oh my goodness I clicked on this thing and now my computer says I can't use it unless I pay them $350 But That's because you clicked on something you had to have clicked on something or went somewhere to some website or whatever and You know it's I hate to blame the victim, but it's definitely was your you're doing But on top of all that if you're an individual Back your shit up. Okay, just always have a backup that's not convicted to your computer It may be a little bit out of dates, but who cares so what you lose a little bit of stuff But you won't and here's a big thing people do not understand this offline backups are very important Have a completely separate if you want to have a full computer that you just keep offline do that or just disconnect the hard drive complete offline backup storage you need the Not everybody understands this, but you need to have three backups one One local offline backup one just local backup and then a cloud backup all three of those There's no way that you're ever gonna have any problems like well because I mean look at it this way people if you Let's just say you've clicked on something which we've told you not to do so first of all bad person bad Smacking on a nose But if you have a backup and you've ran into ransomware somewhere All you have to do is wipe your hard drive and put your backup on there. You're done. You fixed it You don't have to pay anybody anything because they're that you're dumbasses and you've outsmarted them Congratulations Next time don't click on shit. Yeah, that's that's that's your lesson um like I said the The equation changes obviously when you are a company So that's reason why I said malware for companies is I think it's going to be Protection breaking again companies are just made up of people and I'm most guaranteed that the person who the reason why this colonial Pipeline got into ransomware was somebody somewhere clicked on something. That's how the malware got into their system So if you work for a company and you no matter what operating system you're working don't click on that stupid shit in the email Don't do that They always comes down to the email. They just don't click on it Yeah, and I will say one thing now This is probably going to be a little bit of a crazy statement But I want windows to continue to exist and I want windows to continue to have Maybe not the largest market share, but at least a solid portion of the desktop market share because As long as there are people out there who do not care that their operating system spies on them that their operating system is Poo-Poo as long as there are those people out there The target stays off the back of Linux when it comes to this type of just general Malware targeting anybody so To everyone who thinks that every Linux person out there just wants everybody on earth to use windows, no We just want the people who at least care about what they use to use it The people who don't can continue to use it because they're the ones who have a target on their back every day We on the other hand enjoy nice solace privacy and Yeah You know, it's interesting There's the whole argument that people should just be They should run the these Anti-software antivirus and anti-malware programs on the computer and for the most part I think even if you're on Windows Windows defenders probably okay for you Because the last majority of people are gonna be perfectly fine as long as they use their head Yeah, you know, well, I mean that that's sort of the thing like It just sort of depends on your level of I wouldn't say Computer knowledge, but it it depends on your level of common sense when it comes to using a computer Because I've loved my grandmother to death But she is that type of person who will get those emails of like the IRS is like and she will click on those My mom was the same way when she so it took her ages and ages to want to get on the internet at all Like it took her. I mean she's only been on now for I mean, that's probably been 15 years now, but maybe 10 but It was I mean we had the internet ages before she ever wanted to get on it So we eventually got her a laptop when she first got on there. She was signing up for You know emails left right because she was on Yahoo answers. So she had several different accounts. It was you know You know, she had fun, but she was always getting these emails where she Won gift cards like and she it was it Like it hurt me to say mom. You didn't really win a gift card So you hurt my feelings like I don't want to I don't want to be mean but you didn't actually win a good card This person is trying to steal from you. Yeah, and it's even worse trying to trying to not sound condescending when you're telling them No, what you just did could probably get you in a lot of like could cost you a lot of money and problems Because I that's that's how my grandfather finally learned to not open random emails He signed up for something and they charged his credit card for like $800 Luckily as a good credit card company they caught well I mean regardless they take care of it, but still they caught it before it was even a problem, but I don't I don't know. I feel like a lot of people out there Have those issues where they do that and they sign up for those things and they don't have a negative repercussion right away So they don't learn that it's a problem until they've done it 15 times and compromised like all their credit cards Yeah, I mean, I don't know if you ever watched dr. Phil, but every once in a while He'll have these people have been scammed out of hundreds of thousands. They've been a million dollars Because they've been caught online and fallen in love with some person that they've never met and they're trying to bring that person over and this is all the same stuff it all starts with You interacting with someone else online that you don't know Either whether it's from a random email or finding them on match.com or whatever And it all comes back down to the you know trust but verify, you know And That's the case if you're actually interacting with somebody, but if you're just get a random email No trust no verify. We've already verified. That's bad so and We just want to reiterate that we're not picking on old people. We just use Tyler's grandmother and my mother as Examples this happens to young people too. Yeah. Yeah, this has nothing to do with age It's more a level of I mean you say common sense, but I don't even think it's common sense because I mean Older people have way more common sense than young people. Yeah, it's more of a Awareness of what happens on the internet when you're just especially when you're just starting I mean now my mom watches the dr. Phil examples and mocks those people, you know So yeah, so she now knows and she learned that and your grandmother and grandfather They learned That's just something that everybody has to go through and it doesn't matter what your age is. It's just you know You you want to be on the internet and think everybody's a good person and and you know So but the internet is just a place just like, you know, downtown Chicago was a place, you know The vast majority of people. Yeah, they're good people. Some of them want to shoot you Yeah, you know just so I mean now I'm gonna get pissed people gonna piss off because I I said something about Chicago, but Fine Detroit, but nobody lives in Detroit. I couldn't use it as an example. Okay. Yeah Have you ever seen scary movie for? Yes. Yes Detroit before the alien attack and the Detroit after the alien attack. They're exactly the same only one has aliens. I Wish they still made those movies, but I didn't Leslie Nielsen die. I think so. I think so Yeah, that was completely off the rails, but Those are good movies. They really are Just so fun because they didn't they didn't care about making fun of people. It was just good. Um, I Think that we've covered that enough so Let's go ahead and jump into our absolute Tyler your Apple the week mine is a VS podium and so I've been Doing some stuff in unity I've switched over from Godot had spent quite a bit of time working in Godot, but their 3d is Neat need some work. I'm I'm just waiting on Hopefully with the 4.0 release. It's coming and some more updates after that. It'll you don't get much better But stick it with unity and I got to use Like I'm very used to using unity with VS code So I wanted something similar and when I was looking for alternatives I found VS podium which is literally VS code just without the proprietary Microsoft crap and telemetry And as far as I can tell they do a lot of extra work going through and we're and just carving out a lot of the telemetry That's in VS code As far as I know like removing the binary like Mike Microsoft bits is really easy But they spend a lot of effort going through there and making sure that they get rid of all the extra telemetry so I Really like it. Um, if you're somebody who likes VS code, it's literally VS code. Just D Microsoft Which is pretty nice. It looks good. I'm not a coder like at all. So It looks cool, but it's one of those things where I just would have no use for I did go through and make Vim at one point into a clone of VS code because here's a lot of stuff You can do in Vim to make it do the same stuff as VS code with all these plugins and stuff, but Eventually, I realized that I just have no use for any of that stuff because I did add that the only Quote-unquote coding that I do is Configuration on window managers as far as I go now I do a little bit of scripting, but you don't need it for batch scripting either. So no, you don't need an ID for bash Scripting whatsoever. It's just bloat But that's as far as I've gone in terms of actually doing it, you know coding So anyway, so mine is called Envy. So If you have ever opened up the the application blender and Taking a look at blender, you'll know the confusion that almost everybody who's ever opened up the application blender has experienced It is the most confusing piece of software you'll ever see now It's very powerful, right? There's a ton of stuff You can even edit videos. You can make animations. You can make 3d modelers. You can do a ton of stuff in blender, right and Because you can do all this stuff. It's it's super complicated so my pick is called Envy and it is a 2d animation software it's a open source and Basically, it just allows you to make Animation now you can go through and make complex animations like they show making like 2d games and stuff in it and it looks really cool I Haven't gotten to it a lot yet But when I'm thinking about trying to do is creating like a like a YouTube intro thing in it You know just something simple to kind of play around with it, but it looks really good and now it's not nearly as powerful as blender, but Just looking at the interface you'll be able to tell that it's not nearly as complex as blender either So it's gonna be easier to learn So that's definitely what I'm going to be messing around with In the next week or so to trying to see if I can learn this maybe make a YouTube intro Maybe a subscribe button or something like that Because the subscribe button and patreon stuff that I have now is kind of Amateur Just to just to say some so that's a this seems pretty neat to be honest like I don't know this seems like Like asus bright but just its animation like The animation feature in it seemed it seems pretty similar to this like the way it's got the track laid out and Or the keyframe track and the sort of general UI layout. I Love it because to be honest ace is bright. It's one of those I think ace is bright or ace bright. I can't remember which is how you're supposed to pronounce it but either way that program's like $15 and And Definitely not open source. So Have you used it extensively yet, like have you played around with it at all? I've opened it and I've used it like maybe for 10 or 15 minutes and Then I've watched some like tutorials online for it. That's as far as I've gotten It looks like I said looks like there's quite a bit of stuff you can do But you you're only going to be doing 2d animation never going to do anything 3d in it So it's very limited if you're not going to get into it knowing that you're doing 3d or doing it doing 2d You're gonna be disappointed if you want to try to make it do something else because it's just literally it's a linear But time thing with a 2d Palette or whatever that's all there is to it And that's basically what you can do now you can put like artwork and stuff like they're in there But it's not making something into it Putting something into it and trying to make it look like it's something like cut They would come out of blunder in terms of 3d text or whatever in animation isn't something you're gonna be able to do with it At least as far as I've been able to see so It's definitely one of those things where it's just it does this one thing it looks like it's going to do You know very well, so I'm definitely looking forward to into jumping into it now. I'm not a artist Like like at all. So whatever comes out of it may look really janky and that's not necessarily going to be the apps fault It's just gonna be the fact that I can't design anything with the damn So well seeing that I can't design anything. I'm excited to see a video where you use it and see see what you can make with it If you can make something great with it That means I can too and I am gonna be jumping on it Maybe I'll do that in a live stream or something. That'd be kind of fun. Oh, yeah, and hopefully I can catch it Anyone who's watched this podcast might know Almost every time you go live I watched the live stream about an hour to two hours after it's gone up. Oh, it's always always 730 Eastern time every Sunday. That's when I that's when I stream. I was gonna move the streams around To try to accommodate, you know, like other people but Just the way the real life has been going 730 on Sundays just seems to be the time frame Where I can actually schedule time to be on here just chatting with people in the chat without being interrupted by the rest of the Family so like I just tell them. Yeah, I'm gonna be doing a podcast. You know, even though I'm not doing a podcast It's just easier to explain to them That way so I don't you know have people knocking on the door saying hey, what you doing? I got I'm recording. Leave me alone All right, so that is it for Linuxcast coming up next week. I have no clue what we're talking about we have Is that Google cares about Linux security? Is that yours? Yes, okay, so that's where we're gonna talk about Google and caring about Linux security I don't know what any of that means but We're definitely gonna find out next week on Linuxcast, so thanks everybody for watching. 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