 we have this video of one of your day your your daily staples I take it this is from Brian has a very entertaining YouTube channel anyone listening to this can you know check those out he's he's very good at you know put it putting his ideas in a presentable form on on YouTube and I took a clip from one of his meal plans because Liz and I were looking at this earlier and I want to play that so that people get a sense of you know this is how you structure you know every every aspect of your life is structured including of course your meals so let's play that to see like what does it take to start living this kind of lifestyle to start weigh and chop your raw vegetables first take cauliflower for anti-inflammatory and fiber do the same with your broccoli broccoli is for antioxidants bowel health and fiber measure out 50 grams of either shiitake or mitake mushrooms for immune system health one peeled clove of garlic for heart and immune health and three grams of ginger for a variety of benefits including liver pancreas artery health and digestion boil the broccoli cauliflower and mushrooms together for seven to nine minutes until fairly soft the base of your super veggie will be 150 grams of cooked black lentils for protein and fiber add one tablespoon of cumin for inflammation liver and pancreas health one tablespoon of hemp seeds for healthy omega six and three add the chopped ginger and garlic you put aside earlier add one tablespoon of apple cider vinegar for blood sugar and taste I also add one tablespoon of extra virgin olive oil to every meal I eat for its incredible whole body benefits you've now completed super veggie good job eating this can take me up to 34 minutes I know I've timed it so sometimes I do a blended version it's just as delicious and takes less time to eat I love that I love the like how many minutes did you shave off that but do you shave off that by the way when you blend it and eat it 21 wait so you shave off 21 minutes so you eat it in 13 minutes yeah I said that's a huge time saver Liz are you ready are you on board with this no I mean this looks disgusting frankly like how is it like is this it's good flavor though is it good and like like you know is are you just the type of person where the trade-offs like to me eating you know the vast majority of meals like that sounds unappealing to the point where I probably would stop looking forward to tomorrow but you seem to be you know is there is there a personality difference where like I'm a hedonist in pursuit of different things playing a different game but you find you know eating the mitake mushroom cauliflower broccoli combo to be much less awful than I would find it yeah it's a it's a highly predictable observation and I'd say when I see people go through this process they eat it and their initial reaction is huh not that bad actually it's kind of good and then day two I feel amazing and then day seven comes around they say I can't imagine going back to what I was eating before and I'd say 95 percent of people I interact with go through this identical process they initially consider it to be unfathomable that they would actually enjoy vegetables I feel like well I mean I love vegetables I cook a ton but I almost think that maybe I in the grand scheme of things fall more into like the Tim Ferriss territory where like he's very cute and you know measures so many different components of what he's eating and tries to make sure that there's you know ample protein and has a whole supplement routine and all of these things but then there's like very cute little exceptions for the four-hour body where it's like you can have like a dry red wine maybe like two glasses of like a malbec or whatever and it's a little bit like I don't know if there's actually as much scientific backing behind this as Ferriss perhaps wants people to believe it's more that like he really likes malbec and it's hard for him to sort of stay on that type of thing like what do you make of do you find that more people can be successful with that type of approach or is this approach really like does it just take um you know a deeper understanding of the trade offs yeah the the difference is that no human has seriously attempted to defy death yeah that's my objective it's with the 25th century to say in the early 24th century there was a legitimate scientific approach to not only defy death but prepare all of intelligence for superintelligence so I'm not trying to influence and make friends I'm not trying to be cute I'm not trying to I'm trying to change the trajectory of the species and the thing that I've tried to do is be true to the scientific evidence this is a lot of sense I mean to put this in go ahead oh well the thing that I'm just curious about is like aren't people so you know in some ways people are rational actors you know acting in their own self-interest but in other ways were these pleasure seeking animals who love to self sabotage and so you know how does this play out where like perhaps we you know per your research and experimentation do stumble upon a pretty solid formula for how to really really extend your lifespan and health span but we're still these like you know McDonald's cravings craving creatures at the end of the day always pursuing sex and cigarettes I'm like like how do you look at that the compliance thing yeah I'm I'm trying to make the observation that when there were 13 colonies they were torn between continuing under the under the monarch and going down the path of this new weird idea of democracy and Thomas Payne kind of put things over the edge with his common sense pamphlet 500,000 copies were sold we end up doing the democracy thing and democracy ended up being a better system of intelligence management for a large collection of people the monarch was actually pretty inefficient and pretty poor at creating wealth and what I'm proposing in in the same way that my mind is a monarch and my body is the democracy and so what I did is I said I'm going to ask my organs what they need to be their best selves and so I measured every single one and said how are you doing we looked at the scientific evidence and so this is the algorithm the algorithm works in conjunction with my body's biological processes and determines what I eat when I go to bed and what I'm proposing this transitions inevitable we are it doesn't matter what humans say about this this is happening as we speak right in front of our eyes algorithms are doing things better than we can in every regard yes we are pleasure seeking self-sabotage animals but that's only because we don't have the tools and technology to get ourselves out of that you take one example where that solves like ozambic and humans consume more of it than the manufacturer can produce it now even with the side effects of ozambic ozambic is an algorithm that turns off your hunger receptors are humans willing to adapt technology to modify their pleasure seeking sabotaging itself yes how fast is ferocious and so what I'm trying to show is an algorithm that does this towards the the goal of tomorrow but our time horizon for ozambic adoption is admittedly small right in what regard well we've only just started to you know see people like like we have no idea whether the demand will majorly slow whether the side effects you know as they present themselves will end up you know lessening demand we just kind of we're still in the first what two or three years of this really being adopted and so I'm curious about what it'll look like 15 years from now yeah I mean and I'm not even uh suggesting that ozambic is a good idea yeah I'm not even suggesting that it's worth it I mean I think the side of the side effect profile is interesting but what I'm saying is um I'm making the observation we humans love to shit on new ideas that challenge our understanding of reality or challenge our preferences for our own vices and the moment we get a chance to relieve ourselves from that burden we run away with it and so what I'm suggesting to you is it doesn't matter what any of us say about reality our preferences our wants or our needs it's all smoke screen it's interesting your well I was I just want to stay on this for one second what's the future of sex in that same vein like if you say the future of eating is not the lis path but the brian path what is the future of sex in you know the 25th century how will people find that pleasure for themselves yeah that if you truly sit into this thought experiment and you genuinely contemplate whether we are in fact homo erectus and it could entirely be the case the only rational response is to say I don't know that if if the intelligence disparity between us and an insect is some orders of magnitude and the intelligence difference between us and AI is an equally if not greater level of you know orders of magnitude how would we dare say anything about the future and this is why I come back to don't die every single time for the first time in human history the only thing we can utter which makes any sense whatsoever is we don't want to die we don't know if we want happiness we don't know if we want sadness we don't know if we want depression we don't know if we want hunger we don't know anything because we're going into this new phase of existence where we have the controls over reality so sex is a biochemical state like just remove for a moment the physical act it is a biochemical state of stimulation we can absolutely program that no questions asked so what is the future of arousal you know and will we want arousal like how big to me the thing that's interesting is if we if you go back a few hundred years and you say how big is reality you'd say well I can use my five senses and kind of fill out existence I can smell certain things I can understand the texture of certain things when I feel but you'd have an answer and then you fast forward a couple hundred years and you figure out the electromagnetic spectrum we experience a trillions of the actual electromagnetic spectrum of reality there's a microscopic world beyond the resolution of our eyes which is near infinite the galaxy is almost so big we can't even understand it and so if you say what is the conscious what is the state of consciousness like how big could consciousness be what could we actually experience now right now we have feelings like happiness and sadness we know what it's like to fall in love and to break up be in pain we know what it's like to skin our knee we have a certain set of of experiences of what actually feels like to be human but we have no clue if the future of conscious existence is going to be the same difference in order of magnitude as we've experienced a physical reality why not and this again is like why in this moment it's a invitation for soberness and humility we've never had before I appreciate that call for just extreme epistemic humility and what you're seem to be saying is that the one thing that is consistent to get across all biological creatures is the drive to not die and that to keep you know propagating the genes and that maybe that's that's the drive to to follow in in this I don't know in in peregrine we're in right now the and I mean it struck me when you were saying like okay my brain is the monarch and now it's listening to my organs and this is like the democracy of the body it's like that this was you're you're reversing the in you know historically there was there was this group called the physiocrats who took the function of functions of the body and then tried to extend that as a metaphor to look at the idea political system and now you're folding the politics back into the body which is pretty fascinating what would it well what would it look like if our society our culture started taking that idea seriously what would how would politics government society look different from if that change would happen I mean if what I'm basically playing for is AI progress is going to create existential crisis in society it's going to do simple things like it's going to take our jobs we're not going to know what identity means anymore to have a profession or we're going to whip sod so much it's going to be very hard to retrain ourselves at that speed it's going to do things like potentially be better at governance it's going to potentially be thing do things better like telling the truth it's going to be better at you know and the list goes on and on when that happens we're going to face these really imminent practical questions who do we trust for governance who do we trust as a politician who do we trust to tell us the correct answer what do I do for a job how does economics work who pays taxes so all these basic questions that we've solved in our society like we've really have a functional society with a lot of basic questions answered about our existence they're all going to be called into question and in that moment of existential crisis we will have these basic questions to play then what what do we do what's our game do we all buckle down on religion that we just think the afterlife is a game to play for do we say capitalism is the answer let's keep on trying to make money at any cost do like what do we do and what I'm suggesting is there is no philosophical political practical economic model that slides in there that adapts for the existential threats we have as a species and the potential where we have that we have with super intelligence I'm trying to build the guiding ideology for the 21st century that transitions us from homo sapiens to whatever comes next and don't die it's not it's not just about me individually don't die is practically relevant to don't die individually don't kill each other don't kill the planet and align AI with don't die you have this practical question like you build super intelligence and then what do you do with it do you become better at war do you conquer more territory do you make more money in the stock market do you get more social media followers like what do you do with this new superpower if you walk AI into the old games that homo sapiens have played for 200,000 years we're probably going to annihilate ourselves and not to not too long and what I'm suggesting is go ahead no no no please finish what I'm suggesting is in any other time of existence we'd say well we're all gonna die anyway so what does it matter and that's so easily justifies a martyrdom kind of mentality and what I'm calling into question is that may not be true for the first time in history and if that's not true every single observation we have about reality right now is probably dead is probably on its way out hey thanks for watching that clip from our new show just asking questions you can watch another clip here or the full episode here new episodes drop every week so subscribe to recent tv's youtube channel to get notified when that happens or to the just 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