 Welcome to the show, I have notes. The show where people with surprisingly full IMDB pages come together and talk about things, creative animation and how much my eyes hurt at the end of the day. I am your host, Yusuf Adiola, and joined with me is my lovely co-host. It's me, Carrie, Carrie Shorecross. Shorecross. And with us today, we have our regular special guest, Aaron Nguyen, hello. The most specialist, hello. And then our new special guest, writing supervisor, Adi Rivas. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It's Adboy. We're gonna put applause in. Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. I just keep clapping. We're gonna put applause in the post, don't worry. Okay. Okay, yeah. Also, okay, note to post team, don't put applause in. Can it keep running? Like, yeah. For a few minutes. Well, I mean, yeah, it's, we'll look at the record for standing ovations and we'll just go like 10 seconds more. Yeah. Just a little bit. Amazing. I think that's perfect. Yeah, cool. Yes, yes. How was everyone's week? I'm tired. Yeah, I'm also tired. It's long and it's Tuesday. It's only Tuesday. Yeah. Jeb, Jeb said that to me earlier today when we had a video session and he's like, yeah, it's only Tuesday and I already, I just feel like I need to drink and I was like, fuck, it's Tuesday. I was so mad. Yeah. I was talking to a friend of mine on Sunday, like trying to arrange, like, go have like a distant coffee with him, you know? And he's like, yeah, yeah, what day is it today? Like Wednesday? I was like, nope, it is Sunday. And he's like, oh my God. What? Uh-oh. What happened there, buddy? He was like, oh, he was so just dry. He was like, I don't know what's going on. The number of times that it is Sunday, but I think it's Saturday, far outweigh the number of times that it's Saturday and I think it's Sunday. And I really wish it was the other way around, y'all. How about the number of times that it was Sunday and you thought it was Wednesday? I'm gonna, I don't think that was a thing that I've done. Yeah. You gotta be pretty fucked up to think. Like in the moment fucked up. Not, I'm sure they're a great human being. I don't know what their weekend was like. Yeah, seriously. Oh, are they doing? Yeah, I like so many, like I can't remember where it came up, but like Sunday's just turned into pre-Monday. It was me. It was it. So there you go. That's how tired I am. It was you and you've said it and you may have even said it on this show before. It's true. I think you did. Hey, Eddie, I have this new idea, this new concept that I want to bring to the table. It's called Sunday being pre-Monday. Yeah, I think that's a great idea. Thank you. Real life sexism happening right before your eyes. Whoa. Real life forgetfulness. That's true. I like you, Kari. Oh, I like you too. I love you too, Kari. Maybe my idea. Yeah, what is it? Is it pre-? It's Sunday. Is it pre-Wednesday? Sunday is pre-Wednesday. I think that's, it can be my idea. If we keep talking about this too long, we're gonna go down a three-day weekend rabbit hole. We've been there before too. Do it, rant about it. I live there. That's where I live. Like on the weekend, that's like, I mean, I just, it would help me a lot. Oh, okay. How's the, I jumped in there and said I was tired. How's everybody else doing? How's everybody else's weekend? Fat good, huh? Well, I feel like, I don't have to say anything because on the subject of being tired, I spent most of my weekend sleeping. Oh, nice. That's good. Like embarrassing, like it was really good, but at the same time, I feel really guilty even though I know I shouldn't. No, I don't feel guilty. I don't even want to say how much I think I slept because it was in a ridiculous amount. That's, that was my weekend. I know that like, I've definitely heard before that, like it's not true that you really have to like catch up on sleep or anything like that. I think it's at least a little. I think it's a tiny bit true. I think I feel more rested on Mondays than I expect to feel, and then it's on after that. I think it's important that we don't let science, in fact, stand in the way of how we feel. I don't know if I like where this conversation is going. That's very good in a very good direction to take all of our thoughts. You know, what's wrong? I think they're like... I've got my, never mind. Look, I like sleeping and I like breathing. I'm done. Yeah, I like, it's probably like, I 100% endowed the idea that it's not like physically true, like my body doesn't need it, but my soul needs it sometimes. Like sometimes you just need to sleep for an entire weekend. I think that that's like 100% okay. Yeah, I try to tell myself that, but it's, oh, it's hard. Yeah, I like, I dipped my toes back into Final Fantasy VII Remake this weekend. That was... Now you're gonna say I dipped my toes back into sleeping? No, I definitely didn't do that. I definitely didn't sleep a lot this weekend. No, I like, because I hadn't played it in a few weeks and I'm like on chapter 18, or right at the end of 17, onto 18. So it's like right at the end. And I just, I just want the game to be over at this point. Because it just extends there at the end. It extends. Yeah, it's like, yeah, especially for longer games, it's hard to like have that balance of like, I am enjoying this experience. I also want to do other things. Yeah. But I've come so far that I can't just stop. Yeah, well, and it's Final Fantasy VII. So I feel like I have to give it the, but I'm also kind of like this Hojo's laboratory section did not need to be endless. Yes, I don't know. Yes, I absolutely know what you mean. Yeah, so like, I just, I want to play Last of Us too. And I'm like, but I got to put in my dues with that first time. Yeah. I haven't started Final Fantasy VII yet. So I am taking Nintel notes of all this. I'm still, I'm telling myself to finish Death Stranding before I jump into Final Fantasy. And I haven't touched it since January, because again, on the subject of being tired, I like after work, I'm like, oh yeah, time to play video games and then I just pass the fuck out. I have, I have. It hasn't happened. Aaron, if this helps. Okay. I have started doing something that has helped me a lot. And this is going to be what I call being a normal adult. Oh no. I've been, well, I've been finding that. Less interested. Yeah. No, so I've been finding that I, so what I started doing is I started getting up way earlier. Our first meeting for the day is usually 10 o'clock. I used to wake up at 9.45. Relatable. Yeah. So what I started doing is I started just fucking waking up at seven. Oh shit. And sometimes I'll work a little bit in the morning. Sometimes I'll exercise. Sometimes I'll play video games. But all of that lets me, like if I need to catch up on stuff instead of feeling like I like, I should probably like do like one more hour tonight or like I should kind of check on that. I can do it in the morning when I'm more awake anyways. And then my evenings have just been, I can do whatever the fuck I want. Because I don't have to play games. That would be the smart thing to do. And you're implying I'm smart enough to do that. I took a little bit. Oh my god, Erin. I totally, I totally believe you. Like that 100% makes sense to me. I just, I lack the willpower. I'm also like sitting here like knowing Eddie's just like, kids. Kids. I wasn't going to talk about kids, but one thing I wish I could like train my brain to do is to like do fun things in the morning. Because it feels like if I wake up, because I wake up relatively early, but then it's like, I feel like I have to get started on things that need to be done. And if I could just like tell my brain like, dude, it's all right if you get up and play. But it feels like dirty to play a video game at like 7.30 in the morning. It feels like that's the thing that, yeah, like it feels like I'm doing something I shouldn't be like. Ooh, let me just, let me just boot up Final Fantasy seven. It's 7.30. I can't be listening to this right now. But if it's like 9.30 or 10 and I'm too tired, I'm like, yeah. So yeah, I'm like, I have all my energy in the morning. I feel like I should learn to do fun things in the morning, but I, my brain just won't let me. I'm like, you've got to do the things you have to do. Yeah, I definitely like, I've definitely been leaning into that. Like I'm going to be tired at night regardless. Yeah. So I might as well just go to sleep and then have more time to work. I, to be fair though, Eddie, you're right. Like I don't play games often in the morning because I usually feel like, well, if I'm up, I should like either start working and get ahead or like work out. You know, I don't know. It's hard. It's hard. It is hard. I used to be able to do the morning routine, but it is, it was only because of animals. And then subsequently, we have trained animals to wake up later, which is fucking all over. I thought you were about to say we've trained animals to do the morning routine. I wish. Get your dog to play Final Fantasy for you. Imagine, though. In all of this, I say, especially the stuff I'm talking about, all of this is in giant parentheses of life could be so much harder. I'm just complaining about what is apical to me. But that being said, dog training would be also very good. Eddie, you say that you say you've been watching something lately. Oh, yeah. In the least in terms of like animation and stuff, last night I watched Undone on Amazon. I don't know you guys have heard. I didn't hear about it until this weekend, but it's it is. I feel like I'm actually going to offend people because I don't want to say like it's not real anime. It's like it's rotoscoped. It's got like that skin or darkly look to it. Yeah, OK. But there are a lot of sequences that are like purely animated so I can see why they did the rotoscoping and stuff the way they did. But it's about a girl that gets into a car accident and then like a portion of her mind unlocks and she can see like a different level of reality. In a sense. And so I don't want to say too much more than that, but it's it's really well done and like really well written. And I ended up binging. It's eight episodes and they're 20 minute episodes. So I ended up binging all of it last night, basically in one sitting and Bob Odenkirk is in it, which is huge, huge A plus for me. Yeah, I definitely remember who that it is. Better call Saul. Oh, OK. Yeah, like, yeah. I hope you call Saul one day. Oh, my God, I do it. No, I highly recommend it. It is the best way I can think of to describe it is it's like a Russian doll on Netflix. I don't know if any of you guys watch that. It's it's like Russian doll on acid and animated. So, oh, so, oh, crazy, considering how crazy Russian doll is as well. When he started describing it, that my first thought was like, oh, so the shows Eddie described that Eddie is describing is it's you, hawker show. Now I'm very intrigued. And I always say car accident and start seeing it and bled their level of reality. I was like, so you skate is now part of the. Oh, is that is that what that is that what that shows about? Oh, yeah, baby. I don't know anything about you get hit and killed by the car. Yeah. That like the number of times I think I think of you, hawker show at least once a week. It was very good. I fucking love that show. I actually OK. What's it on? You hawker show. It's on my brain. That's a very good. I'm going to cut it out and watch it. Yeah, it used to be on Crunchyroll. It used to be. I don't think I think it's on Hulu. Oh, maybe it might be on Crunchyroll still, too. I don't think so. I think it was only on Crunchyroll because when they're still partnered with Funimation, they had it on there. And then once the partnership was done, I think they removed it. You mean, yeah, I might be wrong. The good days. Yeah, I was really sad when they took it off because I watched that when I was working out at the gym. Hell yeah. Eddie, if you want, I have the blue rays I can like throw at you from the window. You have the blue rays. Of course, I have the you hawker show blue rays. What are we doing? I've been watching it now. I've been watching potato quality you you hawker show. And I can have the blue rays. Wait, is it is it only English dub or is it like sub? I think it's got everything. I need to check. I made I mainly have like the first like two seasons or something. I mean, I'm about to say how many seasons is it? It's like four. It's only four. Yeah. Yeah. So speaking, this is a great segue that I'm calling at this time. So the airing segue. Segway camp. I finally started watching Hunter, Hunter this weekend. Oh, I think we need to watch it, which is the same creator as a you hawker show. And I started watching it. Everybody, please forgive me because I finally found out that a dub was out on Netflix. And it's just a lot easier for me to watch a lot of episodes. So it's like 180 episodes or something like that. So I was like, I'm going to watch the dub because I can also play video games and do other things at the same time, because that's what my life is right now. It's like, if I can't do two things at once, I'm not doing it. Yeah, I feel that's really impressive. It's it's a very good show. So I would also I think you could dive in there too. You hawker shows always going to hold a place in my heart. And also, if you're going to watch you hawker show, I think you should watch the dub because I do like the dub. Kuwabara is like, you're missing. I love it. I love it. I've been. Both the shows are very good. I've been bouncing back and forth between sub and dub. And every time like I hear sub Kuwabara, just normal Japanese Kuwabara, I'm always like, this this this is a huge issue. We need it. My boy. Hey, if anybody's out there and bored, can you cut together the first episode of you hawker show but use the sub of everybody else and then the dub from Kuwabara? He's like their foreign exchange student. They should just use the clips just now of you guys doing it. Yeah, cut that in. It has like some of the cheesiest dialogue ever, but I still love it. Like there's this part where like he uses like like the main character has like a spirit gun. So he like, you know, does this and shoots with it. And then at one point he learns he can do like a shotgun. And he describes it like early in the episode. He's like, it's like a whole bunch of spirit blast. And I think this Kuwabara character is like, oh, I get it. It's just like a whole bunch of spirit guns at once. And then a fucking you hawker show is like whatever his face is like. You say, thank you. I call him you hawker show like this name. Mr. Mr. Hawker show is like, yeah, like I said, shotgun. It's like very like was it 90s? It was early 2000s 90s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God. But yeah, so I'm watching Hunter, Hunter. The like it's a 2011 version, which I guess is the better version. But I did the same. It's funny when you when you it's been a very long time since I've been something like I've been kind of on like a little anime like hiatus like rut lately. But Eddie, when you a second ago, you're like, yeah, I watched eight episodes last night, I was like, holy shit. And then I was like, I watched 10 episodes of this on Sunday and then five episodes the last two nights. So I'm probably I'm also guilty of that. Yeah, that's my anime story. Yeah. Yeah. If only all of these things were on HBO Max. Speaking of funny thing. Segway. We take we take we take organic segues very seriously. Sure. We discover that HBO Max has a whole crunchy roll collection. Is it the whole collection? I thought it was just a select. There is there are select titles. But actually, if you go into HBO Max, there's a whole section called Crunchy Roll Collection. And it was what it was. Yeah, that boutique stuff. Recently, they announced that they added some new that new titles are coming, which means more excuses to watch the best anime in the world. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the title is coming over and crazy. Yeah. We got Aldo no Zero in Yasha in Yasha in Yasha. Really? Could have made Mob Cycle 100, Promise Neverland and Madoka on August 4. Every single one of the shows are like must watches to me. I don't know. I really want to watch Madoka. It's please. It's so short. I also need to watch that. It's so good. I hear here's the thing I will say. This is I'm not going to spoil anything. I feel like I've probably heard all the spoiler because I've been told about this show so many times by so many different people. I think out of context, it doesn't make sense. So that's true. Yeah, here's what I will say to anybody when they watch Madoka. If you're going to watch it, you you have to watch the first three episodes all the way through. Oh, yes. If you don't like it, that's totally fine. But if you only watch one episode and give up on it. No, don't do that. Watch three episodes. I mean, very specific three episodes. And if by the end of the third episode, you're not hooked, that's fine. No worries. I mean, you're bad as a person, but that's fine. And then you can you can work on overcoming that. But at least you know, yes, that's my request. If you're going to watch if you're going to watch Madoka, Madoka. Do that. But I'll know zero is amazing. What is that one? I've never heard of that. Matt, that's a was that or is it more? Yeah, it's a it's it's it's it's like space slash water sci-fi. It's it's at sea for a lot of it. It's a again or but she wrote it. Oh, OK, like 99 percent sure. But it's this very like, yeah, like mech out of water, like like future tech and past tense or past tech, like it almost has like an Inders game kind of thing going on. I won't say what part of it I might spoil it. But sure, it's it's I thought it was very good. And again, I think it's only like 12 episodes. Yeah, read the plot summary now. Yeah, treat. Yeah, like that promised Neverland. Well, I promised Neverland is so good. Yeah, which is going to have more about that, too. It is a show. I think I've thought of this before. It's very rare that I like the editing of an animated show stands out to me, especially anime. But like the editing of that show I thought was was amazing. They do a lot of really good things with like big that like pauses in the correct time and like that kind of stuff. It's just it's very, very good. It definitely builds up the suspense in like a very satisfactory way. If that makes sense, like a story layout standpoint, like they know like when to reveal what information, when that kind of stuff. Oh, interesting. All of these shows are very good. Like, you know, it's like they are only like 12 episodes. It's just like I'm going to just lay on the couch all Saturday and watch anime. So a lot of us are working from home now, myself included. And I don't know about you, but the first couple of weeks I noticed a lot more eye strain. I wasn't sleeping as well. I was getting more headaches. And that was stopping me from playing video games. And that's not I'm not OK with that. But that is where blue light filtering lenses come in. And the best of the best is Felix Gray. 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Oh, Eddie, I would also say that you are crazy busy. Is this true? You just said that you weren't. But I would also say that you're pretty crazy busy. Do you want to just for like people who are not familiar? So like, do you want to talk about kind of like what your your role is? R.T. Animation? Like sure you do. Do it. Yeah. As the writing supervisor, it's my job to kind of help organize writer's rooms for any upcoming productions that we're doing in R.T. Anom. And then I also serve as a co-writer on Ruby. Do a lot of brand work with Ruby as well. Anytime we work with partners on the comic. This classic novel, which just came out today. Actually, what's it called? Before the dawn. Yeah, nice. Yeah. So, yeah, yeah, really great job with that book. We loved we love working with him. So it's very nice that it's like finally out there and it's got a lot of cool details for Shade Academy and Vacuo and and a lot of characters that we will see one day in the series proper maybe. Yeah, it's been really cool. Sorry, just a tangent really quick, like it was it's been really awesome working with him and like it's it's also been with the E.C. Meyers or with me, you're talking about me, right? With with with every one, I thought, OK, but like like that's the equivalent of like someone waving at someone behind you. And then you just pass by that. Yeah, I always just like like if you do that, just look back at them and like wave behind them and when they turn to look, you run. You just run. But like it was really cool with that book, too. I mean, even more so than the first one was like explore a new area, not in the series first and like and like get to work with him to kind of develop some of that stuff and like knowing that. Yeah, you know, I'll bet we're going to see some of that in the series. Or those those locations, at least. Yeah, sorry, I just want to tangent because I'm very excited. Audio listeners, ESA is getting really close to the camera is looking at you. Sorry, Eddie. Yeah, brand. You do a lot of like a lot of that stuff that's like, you know, is it, you know, not not so much anymore of like that. Is this the correct name of the weapon? But like, is this something that Yang would say, you know, or or. Oh, do we have that person's name? Nope. OK, well, let's figure that out. That kind of stuff. Yeah, so all that kind of stuff. And then, yeah, serving as a co-writer on Ruby volume nine right now as well. So that's a lot of writing working with the direct team on the stuff that they write. BAM, BAM, BAM, Segway, Segway, Segway. Oh, wait, no, we're not Segway yet. We could. I mean, we crossed the Segway Bridge. I mean, yeah, we've crossed the Segway Bridge. We said I already did it. I already did it. I thought, yeah, I thought you were you were lobbing it off to me. And I made a mistake. But now we're in it. You've got the ball. That's all that matters. Yeah. Only the smoothest on I have notes. Yeah. What's a note to my Segway? A new a new project that you're working on right now. Yeah. So well, we are announcing today, I guess, by the time this comes out. Ruby, the grim campaign, which is our our Ruby theme D&D show that we've been working on for the last couple of months. And we'll be premiering on August 15th for first members. Nice. I'm so excited. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be no particular. Yeah. So we'll be talking too much about like kind of cast and kind of characters. But Carrie is a part of it. It's true. Yeah. So I think I think it's going to be a whole lot of fun. You know, we're working kind of with some home rules for for D&D to make it feel a little bit more like remnant that we've been working on in the background. So it'll it'll feel like Ruby. It'll play like Ruby. I think there will be potential for lots of cool stuff. I'm trying to think about like what I can and can't say like what's going to be in the teaser. I think we not really talk about stuff yet, but we we're definitely trying to incorporate some cool visual elements, some cool visual elements to make it stand out from some of the other D&D content. I will say this is not the announcement. I will say that I've already during a play test had to slack Eddie and say, am I being too annoying? So get ready for that energy. Yeah, there's some of that energy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't want to say what I mean. It's not in the show. It was a play testing, but all I'm going to say is somebody did a roll. Did a check on something to try and do something? And then I just looked at them and said, I want to also do that. And then I rolled just a little bit higher and then said, I did it better. Yeah, that's that's energy that I'm basically how that worked. Yeah. So I guess I didn't I didn't quite say this earlier, but through context clues, I'm going to be deeming the adventure that we're going to be doing. So, yeah, the what I can say about it is that it's going to take place in Mistral because that's an area that hasn't gotten a super ton of love in the Ruby show. We don't want to do more there. Yeah, giving giving our campaign some time to explore in and around Mistral. And I'll probably leave it there for now. The goal is to do something that I'm going to be careful about how I say this. The goal will be to do something that that could exist canonically alongside the rest of the series, but obviously at a certain point it's D&D, so we're not going to lock people in. Yeah, it'll be a it'll be a fun experiment to see where we land with it. Yeah. What, Eddie, have you ever deemed before at all? I actually have never deemed before until now. So it's a yeah, that's that's that's a little adventure. For for it's worth just in the test we've done. It couldn't tell. That's good. That's good. I like you're doing a pretty good job. Yeah, I mean, I'm like, I'm less like I've played quite a bit of D&D. So like any time I'll be fuzzy on the rules, I understand like remnant and Ruby pretty well. And at the end of the day, we're telling a Ruby story. Yeah. So that makes it that that feels really comfortable. And I don't know if the play test has been a lot of fun. Yeah, I'm just I'm excited because I like I've played before, but we've never I've never played enough or like like finished out like a campaign or a story before. So now I'm required to for work. He's like, everybody has to hang out with me for better or worse. Yeah, it's like I tricked everybody on this podcast every week. He said I have to talk to me. That's how it that's how it organically came to be. Kind of tricked you. Oh, here we've got some we've got a little bit of show art here. I didn't think we were going to show this. Yeah, yeah, I forgot that we were. Yeah, so yeah, we've got some. This is a man, part of me wants to say it. No, I'm not going to say it yet. But there's a new area of Mistral that we've never been to before. So yeah. Got to keep them coming back for more. And they'll be if you listen to this on the audio version, there's what we'll be putting out a teaser the day this comes out. If you want to go watch that, too, they'll have some of the stuff in it. What were I I'm so interested in the idea of DMing, if only because it is like an interesting idea just to like build the world. But also, I think there's a lot of other scenarios that you really have to like think up of in order to kind of, I guess, put a read to the rest of the crew that you're working with. What is I'm curious what are your favorite parts of trying to of being a DM in terms of like building something and what were the hardest parts that you had to come across when you were thinking about building? So so what's interesting is that some of the play tests that we've done, I don't want to get too specific with it because it might borrow some of it for yeah, I might borrow some of it, maybe. But we did a couple of play tests, one with broadcasts, just to like test to make sure that our homebrew stuff was working right. And then we've done another play test, but it was the same scenario. But with the cast and their characters and stuff and it played out wildly different with both of them. So it was it was funny because like the the fun stuff is like getting kind of thinking of what everyone can do and like thinking up of the scenario for them to kind of like be able to play with. The hard part is when I mean, this is like I feel like most people know this when if you've deemed before that it's when everyone throws you a wrench and you're like, I did not foresee this at all. It makes planning a longer story a little bit difficult. But I've I've been playing with some ideas around how to because I really don't want to railroad anybody. I don't want to force anyone down a path. It's more of like I want to create kind of a scenario and an area and things are going to be happening at a certain time. And it just depends where the characters are when those things happen. And what is kind of like what angle they're going to be able to view that kind of stuff from and kind of whose perspectives they'll have on it. So and then I'm going to get in the way. Carry the wrench. So it means a lot of prep work for kind of like NPCs and like what who we're going to be talking to in the area as opposed to like, oh, they're going to talk to this person and then this thing is going to happen. It's more of like here's all the information that everybody has and all their goals and then just going to like throw them into the mix and see how they affect the world around them. Oh, cool. No, I never got super into D&D, but I'm very excited to watch this. My my only experience playing is when I was taking a game development class in college and it was kind of like like my professor was DMing. He's like, all right, if you'd ever played before, we're going to have a little session right now. Cute. So it was like maybe six or seven of us. And most of us were wizards and then we had one pallet in. Oh, it was really chaotic. Good team comp, good team comp. Oh, that's so funny. Oh, that also definitely sounds like your professor just want to play D&D. Yeah, and stuff like, you know, it was one of those professors where he was like it wasn't his like passion to be teaching this class, but he had to. Oh, it's so funny. He was a good professor. But yeah, you can tell like it was this was his calling. He should have taught it like a D&D class. Oh, I would have dropped out. He's been like nerds. Yeah, I think you're like introverted to get into D&D. You have to become somebody else. Yeah, I don't I don't like that. You can climb into another soul. Yeah, no, thank you, gross. I can feel that I can feel that energy area and if only because there are a few times where we've tried I've tried role playing and not necessarily in D&D capacity, but also like in a scenario without D&D in a scenario with where it's just like role playing. And in both instances, it was difficult for me to try and like understand where to navigate. I've definitely liked that person who's kind of just like how to put it. I'm more ready for single player mode as opposed to. Yeah, I get that. So D&D definitely is an interest, a more interesting. It's an it's an interesting idea, but I also think I'm not really wired that way. So yeah, I was small, like the lizard brain. Need my video games, need visuals. I just I think the best way to start out is to just like the next time you go through like the drive through McDonald's role play there like pretend to be like an eccentric billionaire. And like, oh, this fry, this will not do. And then like you can like go on like a whole spiel and then it's like that way. You can, you know, you can like try it out. See, go to Best Buy and like ask, ask about their best buy. I guess you can't go to Best Buy anymore. Go to the curbside and ask about their Chromecast, but in like a French accent. Like you're on vacation. How do you say the Chromecast? Exactly. See, you're already there. Chromecast. Really, I just billionaire at McDonald's angle, though. That's I mean, cheese, burger, a burger. You're asking me if I would like, of course I would like cheese. What do you think? Here's a hundred dollar bill. I'm really based off of like, if I ever made a lot of money, I would still eat at McDonald's. So like, I don't understand why there's not more rich people. Like in the drive through. I guess they just send somebody instead. But yeah, they have a McDonald's in their mansions. They have a McDonald's boy. McMansion. I require an Egg McMuffin at 1035 every day. Yes, I know that's past breakfast. That's the point. I want to show that I have money. I can buy that egg McMuffin past hours. I like the way you said money. Well, you're like a josh knee right now. Yeah, that's the important part. You have to have moxie, which I think is just another word for like racism. I think that's what I don't know anymore. I'm going to go edit the Urban Dictionary. Yeah, I do. I do feel like it might have something to do with like privilege. There you go. Yeah, flexing, flexing the privilege. You know, there you go. Yeah, that's probably a better, a better phrasing for that. Which yeah, racism also. Of course, that's kind of the history. We should fix this. But to go back to D&D, if that's OK, everyone, please. You don't want to talk about racism more, please. I'm already I've already made myself uncomfortable enough, please. Waiting for all the comments that are like that. Anna Sandler, Obama guy. Let's make it. Is that what you say? That's what people always say. Go back to that. Inevitably, inevitably, when I'm in a video, there are comments that are like that guy looks like Adam Sandler and Obama, and I'm like, I don't understand. I mean, Andy, I love you. But I mean, like I see it. I can. If you guys understand a little, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I think I honestly, I think it's it's a it's a haircut head shaped thing more than anything. Maybe true. The Adam Sandler one. I'm like, OK, maybe like the haircut head shape thing. It's the young Obama one that like I really don't understand. That might be a little bit like the hair. Skin, probably not a good way. That's what I'm saying. Probably some racism in there. Some moxies. There's like a guy right now typing that comment and then heard that it was like, back, back, back, back. Too much opposite. And it's going to be nothing. But oh, God, I probably shouldn't have said anything. It's one or the other. You can't I invited this lean into it. I have been Fat Michael Sarah for years now. He's just got to fucking just lean into it. There's a there's a there's a gift from uncut gyms where he's like, I disagree and like I want to like place that into every response. Hey, there's a thumbnail idea or or somebody can clip you saying that and then we can make that again with the same tags. So if you search for you, you get both of them. I need to like go look at it and figure out how to mimic what he's doing. Yeah. Then. Which will be easy because we look like the same person. I'm not going to stand there. You can do Obama. I'm not saying it's just three eddies. I think you should. It's the same picture. I'm just saying that I can see it. I think you should do like a RuPaul drag race thing where you lip sync. So that'll be your skin. Not to talk about this for too much longer, because I feel like I've now completely hijacked the conversation. Yeah, I was somebody was talking. That's right. It wasn't you. I'm sorry. It was like I've told this to you guys in private, but never Jeff Goldblum told me I looked like Adam Sandler. I don't remember this. Yeah. Talk about meeting Jeff Goldblum. That's so much more interesting. So there was there was the what Jurassic World Evolution video game. I think it was called Jurassic World. I shouldn't know the name because I went to the press event for it or whatever. But it was I think it's OK that you forgot it. So me, me, Josh, Flanagan and Chris de Meris all went to it. And part of the thing was they had brought Jeff Goldblum out and they were letting all these different like streamers and YouTubers like interact with him and like do little bits. And he he was a champ because he sat there through a bunch of like really not funny jokes while people just while people were just trying to do dumb bits with him. And we did like a dumb bit. I say we I wasn't on camera. I like brought them the piano. They did a bit where they were they had like one of those. Yeah, the toy pianos. And then he played the Jurassic Park theme and like sang along with it. But he he kept looking at me before we filmed. And he just was like and he kept saying my name. There's the picture. Yeah. And he like kept saying he's like, where's Eddie? All he sees Obama. But he kept being he kept being like Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie. Who do you look like? You look like a like a young, a young Mr. Adam Sandler and I was like, God dang it. Like even you, Mr. Goldblum, even you. I feel like somebody somebody with that status taking interest in me is like scary to me. It's it's almost like mob boss of like, what am I going to do with you? Eddie, Eddie, Eddie. Yeah, no, he was weird. He kept saying my name. He's like, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, just like. And I'm like, I'm not in this bit. I'm just standing to the side. I'm just bringing the piano. I'm I'm crew, please. Yeah. Oh, my God. This is very good. OK, so I completely interrupted whatever it was saying. Sorry. What are we talking about? I was I was going to go back to do. Yes. Oh, yeah, that was travel back in time. The one thing I was going to say was it is probably easier for you to play D&D if you are embodying a character that is not you because so many times I always play like the white mage, which is kind of what I normally am. And that's you define that for me, please. Is that like it's like a helping people thing? It's a helping people. This is not another racism bit. No, that's what I thought you were going. I was like, no, no, no, no, no. Someone like you. No, I just wanted to like what do you how do you define it? How do you identify as a white mage? So is it you can't you can't magically heal people? So what qualities are you talking about? This is turning it way more accusatory than I meant it. I just wanted to be not a race thing. Bro, you need to back off. Oh, no, see, no. God, what a great last episode. Your last episode. I'm so I'm normally support class. So I say white mage before I was my last campaign or this last campaign, I was in Ozabard, but it was mostly support class. So it's always like, oh, I'm healing people or oh, I'm giving. I'm hoping for a status effect or oh, I'm not outright hurting anyone, but I'm just hypnotizing you and that sucks. Like that is not that is not. Oh, it's not. It was boring for me if only because there was a point. I was like, I just want to do something. And I learned I just want to kill. I just want to taste blood. And I learned that a lot of people are actually in the same boat as me where they're like, this is just boring. And then all they want to do is be like a paladin or an orc. And then they just like range. And it's like, oh, I see. That's how you do it. Now, if you could if you could lie down on this couch, is that do you do you feel like do you not feel like the main character in your own life? Is that is that something? Oh, yeah. Let's follow this. Please don't actually seriously answer that question. We don't think it's real. Do it. And he's the instigator. Revis do it and then charge Kerry like $75 for this hour. Wait, the way around $75. That's a that's a steal. Oh, I know it is the other way around. Kerry, we have also you're finding this discount therapist. That's true. What characters do you guys would? Do you normally play Eddie and Kerry? Since Kerry, did you mention that you played a lot of Dandy? I played I played a little bit. I this is and this is not representative necessarily of what I'm doing. I I tend to like being in like RPGs in general. I tend to like being like, like the mage, like a caster magic type person, the glass cannon, as they call them. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, watch out for me. Oh, you got close to me. Oh, shattered. Um, yeah. In my last campaign that I played in, I played as a mage who was like a local hero, but he was full of shit. Like all of his stories, like every story was like we'd fight some goblins or something. And it'd be like, this reminds me of the time that I slayed. The it was always a lie. Oh, it's your word. Gilderoy Lockhart. Yes. Yeah, basically. OK, Harry Potter reference, but we don't talk about her. Oh, no. Yeah. More like, should we get another? Is it can we call something else now? Neri Farter. Done. Done. Got it in one. Hotter. Cary Potter. Cary Potter. There you go. I read that. Perry Hotter. Cary Hotter. No, Perry Hotter. Perry Hotter. That sounds good. Erin, I know you. I guess it may be like non-D&D, but like an RPGs or something. Like what's your what's your go to class? Oh, I don't know. I don't think of it. I don't really play that many RPGs either. Are you a fucking nerd like the rest of us? No, honestly. I do find that you tend to take the path that is more like straightforward, like you like attacking people or would you rather go the stealth route? Probably the stealth route. OK, OK, maybe a rogue or something. Is that a directing class? Yeah, you might be. You're probably as chaotic as a rogue, frankly. Ruge is actually what they. Yeah, it's Ruge. Ruge. Yeah, Ruge. Yeah, I could definitely see you playing a game like like I could see you playing Skyrim crouched 95 percent of the time. Oh, yeah. Yeah, if I could, I would play every game as a stealth game. Yeah. I mean, for a lot of games, it's not a lot of stopping you. Oh, I'm going to fucking make. I've seen some Mario stealth runs. You just wait, you have to you can only kill enemies when their backs are turned. Oh, that's not a real thing, but it should be. I'm going to make it a real thing now. Mario stealth run. That's good. Done. I'm trying to wrap my brain around it. I think I'm good on the first level like that one I can get in my head. It's every level after that that I don't think would work. Uh, at all. Yeah. Night of a little bit. I am full disclosure. I am very tired, y'all. Remember how I said I was getting up early every morning? Oh, no. How's that? So I did get up early this morning. However, I did not go to bed until one last night. So I did. I'm doing the second part of it, but not the first part of it. So that kind of like messed me up. You know what? It's a step. It's a step. It's a very sleepy. You're on your way. Step ahead of me. I was trying to make up like a like a name for that. You know how like old people always have sayings for like, oh, yeah, like one in the hands worth two. I was trying to be like, yeah, you pull the havesies. Yeah, yeah, you took the worm before it cooked. These these sound like colisms at this point. They really do. One in Rome built it in a day. Yeah. We need to we need to make a book of colisms and just like. We can make money off of it, not him. We'll be agents. He'll get a cut. Yeah, he'll get like a good cut, but then everyone else is also going to get a cut. Yeah. Colisms and Cole making up light novel titles. Yeah, that's very good. That's what I want to see. Yeah, I. One thing I was going to ask y'all, and this is like, I think it'd be, you know, because Eddie, you're here, too, is like, this is some stuff we talked about. They touched on like a little bit here and there. But, you know, it's it's always nice to get more voices in, too. It's like how how are y'all doing with creativity these days? I last couple of weeks, I've been struggling a good bit of just like. I think it's a combination of like, you know, last couple of months being the way they have been and also, you know, sitting at the same desk. All day and not getting like a chance to like, you know, I feel like a lot of like storytelling is also like people watching or like having experiences that you can then like apply to a story. And I feel like I'm not having experiences anymore. Yeah, yeah, that's real. My most exciting experience lately is going on evening walks and looking at the sunset. That sounds lovely. It is very lovely. But I'm like, wow, this is the highlight of my week is going for a walk. Like we got we got to take everything we got to take what we can get. Yeah, say we can get my my highlight has definitely been realizing that I have like a clean mask and I don't have to do laundry yet. That's been like the cool thing. I'm like, all right. See, I for a little while, I was getting a lot of enjoyment out of cooking, but lately I'm just like, I'm so tired of making food every day. You know, are you still like you, Eddie, you work out a lot and you you like when we're in the office, you're doing like a lot of meal prep, like you you you ate a frustrating amount of food and looks and looks still look very good. It's how I would phrase it. Are you do you meal prep when you know you're going to stay at home? How does that work? Yeah, I still meal prep just so I can like grab, you know, just be able to grab something that's already ready instead of having to like stop and make myself something all the time. But even that's getting like really annoying right now, because it before you could supplement it with. Like other stuff that you could like buy at the grocery store or buy out. And now it's like, well, I don't want to go to the store more than I have to. So it's kind of like I am now meal prepping everything. And it gets it gets really. Yeah, it gets it gets old. And I just kind of stopped eating as much just because I didn't want to make the food. Oh, yeah, I'm like, I'll just skip a meal out of the six I used to eat every day, six meals a day. Again, frustratingly, yeah, I'm sitting over here, like I mentioned McDonald's 45 minutes ago. I might go to McDonald's after this, like that's what I'm at. We talk a lot about McDonald's, this podcast. Yeah, they should give us money. We would drive so much, so much business to them. We would. On the topic of creativity, I think lately, because I've done less actual art generating as an art director and more like I've been providing more feedback and like doing fixes. I've definitely drawn a lot less during work. So now I feel more motivated or like energized to do art outside of work. So like once the day is over, I have like have a piece I'm working on. So I'm excited to get to that. So I can't really comment on creativity within the office. But I mean, as long as it's happening, taking a break from it definitely has helped in a way. Yeah, I've been I've been thinking about. We should we should start a segment where it's like, what's the creative thing you're going to do next week? I've a while ago, I dipped in a blender a little bit and I was going to get back into it since the new version came out and I haven't really messed with that. But just yeah, it's nice to do something that maybe that's something I need is like something that's just not like work. I mean, I know, you know, 3D suffers related, but I don't do any of that. I don't know how. So that's something I tried to do for a little while was music on the side just because it's so hard to write for myself. You know, when you're writing all day and then but still want to be able to like act on those creative impulses. So for a little bit, I was trying to just do a thing where I made like a shitty track of music every month. Like I didn't want to pressure myself too much where I was like, you got to make one a week, you know? And that kind of fell off pretty hard when like my guitar broke and so then I had to get fixed and stuff. But now that we're kind of back in this scenario where it's like, oh, I've got more time. I keep saying to myself that I need to like get music out because when I try to write at night, it just doesn't do anything. Part of my creative process is I need to move around a lot. Like I just can't stay in the same place. So like at work, you know, when we were in the office, I was in and out of the office all the time because it was like I was on a loop of like just I had this triangle of places that I would go just to stay moving and change my view. And now that is next to impossible. So I I definitely take that for granted. All right, I'm realizing I took that for granted. The fact that I could just be like, I don't like writing in this spot. I'm going to go right in another spot. And now my spots are severely diminished. Well, I feel two ways about it. I feel like that. I also wish like it's going to sound off sappy. I wish I hadn't moved around so much and that I had done more moving around in the office because now I'm like because we were on writing time, like pretty hardcore for Ruby 8 when the pandemic hit. So I was just not in the office a whole lot. And now I'm like, I really miss everybody. Yeah, like I wish I had been around a little more. I miss going to the office. Yeah, definitely an introvert. But being around people, I've realized like does make me really happy. Yeah, I miss you guys. I miss your presence, your life forces. It's a whole like I'm an introvert. So I'm not going to go to the party. But if you don't invite me, I'm going to be really sad. Yeah, so I just I just want to be around people. And maybe maybe sometimes we'll interact, but mostly I just want to like see people. We'll get there or we'll develop bubble suits and we could just and then hug each other. Yeah, I saw I saw my cousin this weekend. She's like one of my favorite people on the planet. We like we're like cousin soul mates, like we just get each other really well. I saw her this weekend and like we kind of talked about it before. Like we've been quarantining like super well, like just in like really limiting, especially over the last couple of weeks. And then she has two. And so I was like, OK, well, let's can I hug you? You know, like I was like, I hadn't hugged anybody that wasn't like, you know, that doesn't live with me. And I can't remember how long it was really strange. I got like I felt I got like a little emotional afterwards. That was like human contact, you know. Oh, that's a feel. I feel like this is not I don't know any medical things at all. So don't quote this. But it's like I I hope that's something that like we can start doing at some point or is like if that's like the way to get back into this, it's just like like not like increasing your bubble. Yeah, if that makes sense, like not just like, oh, anybody now. But it's like, oh, wait, OK, you're part of my group now. Yeah, like we can hang out kind of thing because we're being safe outside of that. I don't know. Listen to doctors. Don't listen to me. Yeah, let's not let the science get in the way of. Yeah. I'm just saying when I wear a mask, I'm just like. Now, I'm just kidding. It's really easy to wear a mask. You guys are so funny. The best way is just to like never let them know when you're serious. I am being serious to wear a mask. It's true. And that is probably the best way we could end. Yeah, let me just say wear a damn mask, wear a damn mask. It was nice to see everyone and I, too, miss everyone. I would like to hug. Everyone, I can feel it. I can feel it. Feel the cosmos. I'm feeling it. Oh, come on. Yeah. And he's a little low. I went low. Yeah, it's cool. And thank you, audience, for watching and for listening. 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