 Big shit, big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official Mr. Maker, what's going on? Not even my dad will walk on Man, hey man, say man, check it man, how you doing? I'm doing good Man, hey man, look man, I'm getting ready man, I got a guy here today Hey, he don't really need no introduction man, this guy right here man, just solid and supreme man Hey man, this dude right here man, it's one of them guys man, when I seen that he was, you know, one of them guys I need to talk to I try to figure out a way to make it happen man, Johnny damn, D is in the building Yes sir, what's up with it, what's up with it? Man, you tell me man, just Yeah so we like to take it back, I want to know a little but a lot about you I want to know about Johnny D before he was Johnny D, as a kid growing up As a kid growing up I was always Where were you raised first of all? I was raised in Fort Worth, Texas on the east side, stop 6 to be precise, that's the section Raised there, me personally I was always in the music, in the music business Somehow Since the beginning because of my family and just everybody that was involved in the music scene at the time So you have family members who are? Yes ma'am Mom, dad Yes ma'am, they were more of my cousin erotic D, he was really just involved with DOC and the whole making the WA DOC So that was early on That was early on, so I always just been influenced by watching, you know what I'm saying, the people before me Which is happens to be some of my family members Okay that's awesome, you have brothers and sisters? Yes ma'am, I got two brothers Two brothers, no sisters I'm really on my dad's side, I got a lot of brothers and sisters I know it's probably like 10 plus I think Do you know them all? I meet them here and there on Facebook, you know what I'm saying, they reach out and I talk to them sometimes But not really, I've never really met any of them So your mom and dad wasn't really together while you were growing up? No, no, same black story, single parent We've heard that so many times, but was he a part in your life? Because although he might not be in the household, he might still be there for you No, he was locked up when I was young, he was locked up for like 17, 18 years or something like that So the first time you actually saw him that you could remember is how old were you? I had to be like 4, 5 Okay so you saw him when you were younger and then he was gone for such a long time Yeah, he was gone since I can remember And then when he came back, how did you feel? Did y'all, you know, create a relationship after that? He reached out, but you know what I'm saying, I'm grown now, you know what I'm saying So I really ain't, I don't know how to I'm so used to doing everything by myself and you know what I'm saying, what I'm used to The small circle of family that I do got that I don't know, I really haven't figured out a way how to just Go ahead and make that meeting happen Even now, wow It's a challenging thing, man, you know, fathers and sons, man That's one of the things, man, that you have to realize it's not easy Even though I knew my father, it was a thing where I felt like it was abusive But then I couldn't say that because at the end of the day I needed it because I was a bad child So at the end of the day, I needed it But then again, I feel for you because at the end of the day You just start not having that relationship with him You now go to whether it be uncles or neighborhood, you know, men in the neighborhood And you start to latch on to the things that make sense because you're a man So at the end of the day, God got away at making sure you find your way Right, so that's the dope part about it So you had that male influence somewhere in your life? Yeah, you know what I'm saying, just people in the neighborhood Just how they were shining and how they was getting money, that's what I looked up to So naturally that's what I took after Do you have kids right now? Yes ma'am, I have one daughter, Dallas Lyri That's a beautiful name, Dallas Lyri Appreciate it Okay, so yeah, that's another reason why I always ask about, you know, your parents or Because then as much as you haven't stepped that foot forward But you don't really do it for you all the time to do it for your kids Yeah You know what I mean? Yeah, I want to be the cool dad, you know what I'm saying When she brags about me at school, so I want to, you know what I'm saying, make her proud When she brags about a dad at school, like everybody thinks her dad's cool So I want to keep it like that I think that's dope, have you, I mean how did she? She's nine She's nine, that's what DeRiz was saying Like he was, DeRiz the show was like, when I be at school, when the kids be at school I go, they be like, my dad's DeRiz, you know They really, you they superhero man Yeah So, and you with your accomplishments, man, and the things you've done It makes it for a place to where she, she stands out Because her dad in the way that he's paved the way, man That's dope, bro Yeah, I appreciate it Yeah, man Like CeCe said, my dad is my superhero Damn right, that's where it be I hope I, I'm my girl's the superhero But really, they fly, like they too much like me You know what I'm saying? Them niggas too fly for me, they like me So it's like, damn, you know, they fly Like they just too fly, so it's hard to mimic someone you're such a leader I got some leaders, man, you know what I'm saying? Like they go hard, man So I love my daughter and my sons, you know what I'm saying? But man, just really, just give us a, just a understanding on the music Like what keeps you going? I know you got the new project out, what is it called? Damnnation, what is it? Damnnation Damnnation And so what keeps you going? What keeps me going is It's just, I just know it's just when you, I have the hit factor As far as the music, I always knew that And that motivation that people like, you gonna be a star one day You gonna do this, you gonna do that It always kept me moving forward Even in the most fucked up situations No matter if I had nothing, I always knew if I kept at this I can make it happen So I really never stopped, no matter what my situation was And I had some fucked up situations Tell me a little bit about the album, just how you put it together I'm gonna get into that How you put it together and just what went into this project? Pretty much just studying the Fort Worth culture The music state of mind, how everybody was attracting everybody What they love, what's hot, what's the sound Everything, pretty much I just soaked all that in for about two years When I came up with this project I took everything I liked from Fort Worth culture And just made an album out of this one So it's complete street Fort Worth, motorworth, sounding music on this album And you took it two years you said? Yeah, just studying everything, just what's hot What attracted everybody, just different styles Just everybody, just all the Fort Worth artists that contributed to the scene Have you done any visuals yet? Yeah, I shot on Happy Day, you know what I'm saying, that's coming out soon And why that one? Because that's the one that attracted to everybody the most Even the industry artists, they started paying attention after that I dropped a trailer to that on Instagram When the industry artists started paying attention and asked I'ma go in that direction every time So you say industry artists, there's certain people that was tapping in Yeah, they was tapping in Who do you really rock with as far as industry go? Who I really rock with I'm fucking with Jewel Centeno, I always grew up off that industry Don't do it, I met him a few times Me and him, we rock He's a very upbeat, happy personality He makes us laugh every time we go around He's never down, around us, he's never I've never had a dull moment running in Yeah, he hard, I tapped in with I consider him industry, even though he's still, he's from Texas He industry to me, Waco Tron, that's my partner Yeah, we had him on here too Yeah, Waco Tron, I tapped in with Waco Tron He did some shit, he got a track on the album with me also You got a track on there? I'm gonna ask him about you, yeah, that's my boy I mean, him talk a lot, like Waco Tron is dope, I love it because he sounds so You know, when you say industry, Waco Tron is industry Whether you want to accept it or not, his sound is totally industry For me, now I don't know, that's my opinion Yeah, I think so, I agree with you I like his sound, that's why he can place right in the industry With all those artists out there and sound good How did you make that happen though? Because I know he's signed and everything How did you make that connection? I was an engineer and basically I met Waco Tron I helped do some of his first music that he came out with I engineered it, and he hit me up one day He was like, yeah, you engineered my first album And you taught me how to do this and do that with the recording And since then, I've just been on go And I was like, shit, I haven't recorded so many artists I really didn't remember, but you know what I'm saying It was like, shit, let's get a song Because I looked them up and looked up at his music And I've been jamming this nigga shit I've been doing his music and shit I looked them up and it was like, we got to get us one in And we just went from there Did you go to Waco? Or did y'all sent it? Or how did y'all go? He was in Dallas for work recording Okay, cool We had a studio in Uless, Texas Called a camp music group Okay That's dope, man So just what's your... Any other features on that project? Of course, I got all the casinos on there I got Fat Pimp, me and Fat Pimp Been locked in for years My boy right there, he's been a man Love that dude, man He love the show He's supported Dallas Peary Dallas Peary is the epitome of Dallas Dex Exactly Because every time when I'm looking Anybody up on social media Let me tell you He's always on everybody's social media I promise you So Dallas Fort Worth is a thing That he just supported Man For sure So how did y'all link up on it? I've been known Fat for a minute I was real popular in the twerk scene Me and Lil' Runny Mother F had a big song Just for like... What's the name of that song? It's called Girls Just Wanna Have Fun Yeah And it was just a big song And I locked in with all the dance club artists And some people didn't survive After that phase went out After the dance twerk scene died A lot of artists died And Fat, Lil' Runny Mother Some of the few people stayed afloat After that scene was dead And me and Fat Just been locked in every since Fat's still working today Yeah, he is When you look at the way That the music is in the Dallas Fort Worth area What would you scale it at? What would you say is going on That's really popping into you In Dallas Fort Worth right now Outside of yourself excluded I feel like the Dallas Fort Worth scene Or predominantly the Fort Worth scene Has influenced the whole New wave of music today I feel we don't get a lot of credit Like we should But in due time Shit's gonna change I feel artists is gonna start Penetrating through the industry And making them waves And working with other industry artists But I feel Dallas Fort Worth In particular has created a sound That people use to this day And blew their whole career up So I get it But when you think about it Just like I get it because I remember Some of the things that happened To transpire Whether it be my Dougie Teach me how to Dougie And you start to look at all The different things where it transpired Or either told your boy Coming down here mixing and mingling With different people Or yeah, because I remember He would go yo-yo That was one of his main things That he done when the wave got hot again He ducked back in and linked up With go yo-yo Which turned up the whole Dallas Fort Worth scene Correct He turned up the whole Dallas Fort Worth scene And before that the Dougie era Was kind of dead for some years Yeah it was Definitely was But when it was going it was going It was going But then when it died It died and everybody with that sound Crash, fast Yeah So when yo-yo came out He brought a new sound A new wave And everybody hopped on it Like Fort Worth is who got Dallas hot During that wave Because when you look at You got so many different phases I'm an old nigga So when you look at phases In the Dallas market You got to go I go all the way back You got to think about You said D.O.C earlier You got to say D.O.C You got to say Run C You know you got to start looking at DSR You got to look at DSR You got to look at All these different phases Man there's so many different Little Run and Mother Elf Little Run and Mother Elf You can't forget D.R.O. You can't even forget Puga Leroy You understand what I'm saying You can't These are phases These people ended up doing Platinum songs And so You had so many different phases Of what we do now Fast forward to now When you look at The Boss Talk 101 platform And what I've been doing I never would have thought That I'd have got the penetration Of artists that come out Of Fort Worth, Texas That's the part where I see the roll off From Go Ye Yo To be honest with you But you got to talk about Solo Luchi I feel Solo Luchi's a great Artist and I put him more industry Than actually like Creating a wave In Fort Worth I feel Solo Luchi Is one of the most talented Artists from Fort Worth To ever come out of Fort Worth But he took the industry route He really He's really more of an industry Artist Ye Yo kinda came from like What everybody else is at Right now from the bottom You know what I mean Like there was no connection To the industry Straight from the streets And having to build From ground up And that's what Ye Yo accomplished But I can't I forgot about somebody When I was talking about the run Season coming up Through the DSR You can't forget about Twisted Black You see what I'm saying Because I couldn't go to Peeping Toms I couldn't go somewhere And not hear that underground Sound That he was pushing Shout out to your entertainment So when you look at These different waves And the way that Dallas Pretty much Dallas, Fort Worth Pushed themselves Into the way That people have to look At an industry Where entertainment is On a rise You got to look at those Patriarchs You got to look at All these people All mean something To the development Of what we do They all do But at the same time They really didn't Create a wave They never created a wave But they have penetrated Moments Because you can't have A platinum hit And there will not be A whole bunch of people Involved You correct So when you look at the Row You got to give them The credit He's accomplished He accomplished Big things But it's like When I say You got to It's kind of like Gucci Man Like everybody has success In Atlanta GZ has his success But Gucci Man has a different Type of success When you think of Gucci Man You don't only Think of Gucci Man You think about the Artist he actually Put on To get to the level That he's at And that's The That's what's Creating the wave You don't have Too many artists That created a wave Like that And you know You got the Own artist That took his sound And created their own Unique sound within His sound And became Artists that were Just as big as him Now you can't You can't say Go-ye-yo Without saying The Mo3s The Yellow Bees And the Time Boys Mo3 didn't create Mo3 didn't create Anybody that sound Like him Other than Gunna Meese That's right But you still Just talking about Their time period When they was Doing nothing Yeah, Mo3 was big As fuck He's so unique And so talented And what he does You couldn't mimic That he's his Own personal On his own level I ain't gonna say Dallas Will never have another Mo3, but Goddamn Mo3 was fucking Talented So when you Tell me about Just cause Go-ye-yo Was a whole Whole situation But the Mo3 thing Like during the Time that you Was coming up And you seen This guy In Fort Worth too It was a Controversial situation Over there But just How did you First find out About Mo3? Just through the streets Like everybody Just through the streets It was crazy Because Mo3 I feel was the only Artist From Out of Dallas Fort Worth area That really didn't Just feed Off the Off the Off the Buzz Yeah-yo He's the only person Who had his own His own shit By himself Everybody came Oh, he used prophecy Yeah, everybody came up Through half pint films Around them times And he came up off His own shit His own name And that's the only Artist from Dallas That I can see did That everybody else Was following behind Half pint and what Yeah-yo had built On Half Pints platform So And you know Half Pints platform Is predominantly Fort Worth So now You have everybody From Dallas Coming to Fort Worth To get a buzz Mo3 is the only Artist that didn't do that He didn't come to He had songs On half pint Pay But he didn't You know what I'm saying He didn't use Half Pints Page to build his platform He used his own That's the only Artist from Dallas That I can say That did that I gotta I gotta agree With you I never thought About it until you Just said it Yeah, Fort Worth Because I'm The only guy Who interviewed prophecy And I know That prophecy put A lot of work When they had this Thing Where they Only dealt with each other Some people That's what you So right I never even Thought about it But that separated them But when you Look at Yella You look at Trap And all of those guys They was all With Yeah-yo They was doing Songs With Yeah-yo When Yeah-yo Was in Austin They was with Yeah-yo It was Everybody was Falling behind Yeah-yo Some of that He just had that energy He had that wave And if you think about it Everybody in the city Right now In some way, shape, or form That's popping Came through Yeah-yo's story The hood-famed casino Story came through Yeah-yo When I think of Fort Worth Like I said You think of Yeah-yo When you think of Dallas You think of Yeah-yo Well I think of Mo3 too though You think of Mo3 And I think of Yella Bezer I'm not gonna Him and Yella When Yella took that wave That run that he ran With the Chris Brown And all the people The Gucci All the different things That he was doing And the way that his songs Was poppin' Bro, you can't It's something It's a whole Another thing You talking about After he didn't Caught the wave already Correct But you cannot It was a bunch of people Around during that time That couldn't do What Yella did It's a lot of people Who did I mean didn't get to That status That's what I'm saying Who didn't get to That status Yella took it all the way That's what I'm saying You can't I can't say I can't say Yella didn't Didn't create the wave But that nigga Took it to a whole Another level Another level I can't say you wrong But all I'm saying is Yella started the wave For everybody And I agree with you I agree with you That he was the first One that I felt He had some During this period Because you got These are periods Bro You got So many different Elements to This whole scenario I was talking to A guy this morning That was talking Like hey man During the DOC era That a lot of time Don't get to just do You know The guys that was Creating their own wave But When he talked to me about it I was like yeah A nigga but That call y'all niggas Didn't put it out there right You know I'm gonna Put it on them niggas You know what I'm saying Like y'all niggas should Have done a better job Of telling y'all history And basically Putting it out there In a way to where The youngsters did Migrate and relate And it's still Not too late nigga You got boss talk now Or you can create Your own wave At the end of the day There's no excuses For us not creating Something Culturistically Where people can see What's going on And what happened right But it takes some time Yeah it takes Some years It takes some time bro So you though Let's get back to you You one of those guys Man like I said We can't not Talk about the elephant In the room You know what I'm saying Let's talk about Your deal You being linked with 1017 Let's talk about I gotta ask you About Enchan That's the elephant In the room When you look you up That's a history That can't be denied How important Do you feel like You were to her career Blossom in who she is How important Yeah If I didn't exist She wouldn't exist That's how much That's how If you didn't exist She wouldn't exist She wouldn't exist How did What did you do To impact her So much that You felt like If it wasn't for me You wouldn't be here Pretty much Anything you can Ever think of Artists are supposed to do For themselves I had to do for her I took it I took an image I took a face And I pretty much Put everything together What I thought people would love The music that I thought People would attract to I posted The sexual content That people would attract to On Instagram Just to build a page Yeah But you said something You said everything That an artist should do For themselves So you saying that She didn't actually Think you did it all No I mean she had What part did she play And what part did you part The face and the voice That's how she played She was the face and the voice What record labels do for artists Is what I was doing By myself Paying on and all that Everything I had Ten jobs in one I was writing the songs Recording the songs Mixing the songs Marketing the songs So she didn't write her own songs I mean She wrote her own songs I don't want to take credit away From what she did do She did write songs But There's a difference between A good song And great songs And hit songs So you critiqued her songs I critiqued her style To where it was Like When I met her She probably had a EP on Soundcloud With like 25 plays But I seen the vision And I took What her vision was And I added to it And together We made Motherfucking hits How did you meet That's what I was about to ask It was on Facebook She was just like Known in Fort Worth And Dallas Fort Worth Is a pretty face On Facebook Snapchat Shit like that And I just found her And I Heard the music I told her to send me Something she sent me a song She had a nice voice And then from there on I just hit her up And told her to come To the studio And that's how we met And boom At that time Did you have Any other artists You were working with? Yeah, I was working With this artist She had a song called Lil' Nana Kiana She had a song called Beat Up the Pot That kind of got Popular around that time And that's what really attracted Channing to what I had going on Because she's seen Kiana And she knew Kiana And she's seen Kiana Growing And scaling So she was like I gotta figure out What's going on over here So that's how she Got in the mix with me So you like working With females It's just I seen the vision Before Cardi B And everybody came out To be the next wave So I was putting together Strippers And making them rap And saying Hey, we gonna talk about What y'all lifestyle is At the strip club on album So before the city girls I was trying to create The city girls But it's like You can't get everybody To see the vision They understand it And they might think Yeah, this sounds good But you really gotta Make people believe Believe You know what I'm saying And if you ain't At that time I had no accomplishment So it was hard to get People to believe That I can make it happen But Shannon was one of those People who believed That I can make it happen Over time So it happened So when you Say it happened for You basically You guys were together You created a sound And you created a wave And then 10-17 Comes into play How long after No, not only how long after But how did it all happen You know what I'm saying How did 10-17 Yeah, how did they Link up with you guys How did that happen There was a couple more People that tried To reach out prior to 10-17 We had L.A.R.E. With Hitco Tried to hit out Reach out Fucking Hitco Fucking Who else was it We had Def Jam in the beginning We had Epic Records We had a meeting With Sylvia Roan That was Yeah Then why you didn't Choose any of them Crazy situation That happened And I guess It was a conflict of interest So Can you tell What crazy situation I mean Just people we dealt with Prior to the situation And We got black-balled This person tried to black-ball us From having any type of Accomplishments But You can't stop Somebody from the Dallas Air Fort Worth area Yes, somebody from Dallas Fort Worth Really? Yeah, they just Tried to stop What was going on And Can I research And find out Who this person is Or how to help I need to find out Who this is I need to find out Somebody Somebody Somebody Who the hell is somebody You know what I'm talking about This boss talking You know what I'm talking about Somebody Yeah I need to find out Who this is That someone tried to black-ball somebody Which it didn't work Too much Because you guys Ended up on 10-17 Ended up on 10-17 You see what God have for you Nobody can stop That's right Because it just wasn't meant For you to go where At first The other people That was reaching out to This is what It was meant Ended up going to 10-17 After the black-ball And tries to happen But how long does it take though From the moment you You meet her Start building How long does it take For that to happen That's what I'm talking about It took three years Three years, okay Three years we were shooting Videos The first year was More of building The artists Like artists Man Artists Development Which doesn't happen These days So the first year Was artist development Mostly what we dealt with After that After getting the attention Then it was more on Figuring out how to market her And what we can do And being in the End crowd in Dallas Fort Worth If I tried to change The people she hung around Just for the look Everything I did was business I was never really focused On a relationship I was always focused On a business And how to make her Get the next look Or who's going to be The next person to see And post her To get that next wave Of followers So It wasn't my surprise That the relationship Went to shit in the end Because I was never Focused on the relationship I don't mean to cut you off But how many followers did she have When you first met her And how many did she have When she left When I first met her When I say left Because she ain't left But when y'all stopped When you stopped Being directed and contained When I first met her She had 15,000 followers When I left 15,000 She had 175,000 Okay So before Before Gucci Man Before Gucci Man Before Gucci Man We was at like 175 That's a great accomplishment Man And proud It took three years It took three years Because when I talked To Carl Crawford It was the same question I asked him About Megan Thee Stallion Like how many people Did she have Looking at her Before you start Implementing What you do Into her brand And it went from Being hundreds of Thousands to millions You know what I mean And this is something That you know That the work Is being put in But you can Easily look at it And then a person How is it man And this is something I'll ask you On track Because I'll start going up Because I have a question Okay How is it When you Go from Independent To being Signed to A situation How was that For you and her You mean like How do we feel When it happens Yeah How was it I want to hear When it first When it first When everything It was like Because I feel I took on A career like If she didn't make it I would be the blame So It was me That was pushing the hardest To make everything happen So shit wouldn't fall Because if everything Failed It was going to be me They're going to say Johnny you the You shouldn't have been Fucking with this nigga And that's what I was trying to do I was trying to make sure I gave nobody No reason to say It was me That was my whole little Ordeal So When it happened It was like I weighed off my back Like finally Because being from Forward Nothing happens for nobody So it was like When that happened It was accomplished Me like What the fuck It happened Dope You know what I'm saying But You should feel proud Yeah but I didn't have time To feel proud Because two weeks later I cut out the situation Okay now Okay but let me Ask this question Before you get into it Okay But Okay Deal with females You know females come With the attitude All of that sort of stuff That's why some Managers Or some people Don't like to deal with the females But what I'm curious about Because I see a lot of Male labels Male managers And so forth Dealing with the females How hard is it to Because you're with them All the time developing them Strengthening them Whatever Keep it professional And not cross over Into that Intimate Building that type of Relationship How hard is that It was really hard Now it was this I'm gonna say this If you don't have If you don't have any Anything for You know just Major accomplishments Is It's hard to get a female To a hundred percent believe In your vision for her You know what I'm saying So it wasn't my idea But what I've seen is If I'm in a relationship With a female It's more easier To get her to focus On the career Because she just wants To be with me In a relationship And it's like I'm thinking Okay we've been To build an empire To grow this situation Like this is what we're Gonna do We don't go on dates We're going on a photo shoot Or we're trying to Create content for Instagram or We're trying to We're in the studio Creating the next song Or we're trying to Figure out different ways To get these Industry artist attention To get that repost That might get those Followers to Up her level So it was never I was never Focused on a Relationship It was always business And that's what Fucked up in the end But would you Would you do it If you had to do it The same way Or keep it separate Or would you not Get in a relationship with her I mean in that Situation I would have Now that I have something Behind my name I did this With this girl Females look at me Like oh you did this So it's easier now But back then Not having nothing Under my name It's like I would have To control the whole Situation The same way And it's like What I've noticed Females they get In relationships And that's a distraction From anything They got going on So it's hard to work With females 24-7 It's hard to work With a female Because so much Like a female In her early 20s Is just Their focus is on Something else Especially if she's in Another relationship And that's going to Take away from What's going on And that's going to Be a distraction And that's going to Be a problem And then there's Going to be In security with her And her boyfriend And then I ain't trying to deal With it But if she gets mad at you That also mess stuff up If you're on a Relationship We had It's like We got into The regular Same problems Everybody else Got into But it's like It's going to be put on A magnifying glass Because who she is And it's like But you had a Female artist before You had her Were you also In a relationship With that other Female artist before? No And it didn't work Because once she Started buzzing She wanted to Be in the clubs She wanted to Go to the clubs Because everybody Knew who she was She wasn't focused on The reason why They were paying attention Because they knew She was going to be The next What it was But she wanted to You know what I'm saying? Which artist is this? It's just the Artist before And Channing You mentioned her name Earlier Yeah, what was it? Give us a name, man I don't have to Go back in You didn't even Put a name on it Go back in So But the thing You got to understand Is man When you In a relationship With somebody You both know Especially if You didn't put a ring on it And it's going to come To a screeching heart At some point Man, you were correct You were in a brick wall In a brick Shoot, even when you Put a ring on it You have something called Divorce They'll get mad And try But it would be More solidified If you know That y'all was going Into it together With a ring Because she couldn't Even though The contract you guys Signed y'all still In a joint agreement With that With 1017 And when you talk To me You dealt with their people And you made the deal And she had to agree With what you guys Doing at the time So you guys Were still together At that point We were still together At that point When did it stop? When did she say Hell no I don't want to do it How far into 1017 Shit, two weeks later It was always playing I just didn't know it Because I was so happy Shit was fucking Happening But how did you Find out When they canceled My flight to Oh, they canceled My flight Uh-uh So she didn't even She didn't even Text you Call you Nothing Bruh I was You was at the airport? Bruh I wasn't even at the airport I'm up here trying To book my boarding pass I'm like What's going on They call me And say Yeah, we canceled Your flight She said She didn't want you there Like what I was Just on the phone With her this whole time What the fuck Is going on Then gradually Once she got there Then I realized I got to stop And ask you about this She Counseled your flight But you got to deal With 1017 The same way Carl has a deal with Megan And they got to deal With Rock Nation But they ignored A lot of his stuff According to what Because Carl talked about this They ignored A lot of what he Had implemented And he had to go back And fight for that Place in position Is that the same thing You had to do Or you were Exactly the same thing But the difference Is between me And Carl Crawford Is she's not Making no money Who's not Making no money And chanting's Not making the label She's not making No money right now No money for the label For the label She's not making No money for them Why What's there to sue I can't She has no money With this She's working I see her She's working But you tell me Where are the billboards Where are the plaques Where are the high streaming records That are really Revenue I get it But why is she not Doing Working Why do you feel She doesn't have a team That's why She's the only person At 10.17 Without a team So do you think She purposely do this So you You know Because some people Can be vindictive She would rather Go broke Than get back Cool And work out The business With me And figure it out That type of person We're dealing with Personal verse business How does They don't They don't really Even know What was going on Because I presented The world Like she did all of this By herself Because I wanted to be Bigger for her Because if it's bigger For her I'm doing everything It's going to be bigger For me And we came up With this agreement In the beginning What we were going to do This was the plan From the job But Johnny D She's been over there For a minute That's exactly what I should see Right now Different things Like these videos Look like they're over $100,000 Not really I just But I'm just trying To understand How do you What do you have Are you fighting To try to figure out A way to I'm not even Dealing with it I'm letting the legal team Deal with it I don't even Focus on it I'm focusing on Something totally different But you can Look at it And see What it is For what it is There's no team There for her She can't get a team Because she's Do you I mean Far as Gucci Go Do you guys ever You ever reach out You have a business deal With these people They don't give a damn They just want to see Progress Gucci man Is the person That's going to give you The bag Give you the platform Give you the look Hey, here you go Go make it happen You have no Dealings with Gucci Not at all Well, how did you When the paperwork got Signed You had to be dealing With his people Deal with his legal team Correct I don't really know What she deals with I know when we Haven't they did music Together though They done stuff so But you know what I'm saying That's when I I just remember Just Gucci was in the Studio That's when we Meet Gucci's studios So you met him In the studio Yeah We were in the studio Session And it's Matt Gucci But what I was Wanted Because then When they canceled Your flight And they said That she said It was over Because sometimes This person is Not around Nah, they don't care About anything If there's a Problem between The lay Who she's with The corporation And her Then They won't even Send out any money They'll freeze all The fucking finances Like they won't even Do anything Until that she's Situated Resolved And she doesn't Care She's comfortable Because you know When I got her She was in The fuck The position She's comfortable What she's doing now She doesn't care You know what I'm saying As long as she's Eating Has nice things Here and there She doesn't look At the bigger picture She just cares about What she got now Because it's never had Nothing From where you're from We ain't never had Nothing for Worth Texas So Well, I see her A lot of times When she in town She goes and Deal with half-paint And they Doing different Things together They have a relationship You did Yeah I'm being real That's why Because if you Had a mess with her She would still respect you But you probably Wouldn't have made it far As you made it I agree with you on that You know what I'm saying So it's a It's a It's a It's a bad So how are you In half-paint? In half-paint it's good In half-paint Been locked in for years I know in half-paint It gotta be 10 plus Now So I wonder why She don't Because he Tried to develop All this and stuff Erica left him And you know Went to 10-17 Not 10-17 But Carl Crawford That he Kinda He didn't Did you ask Carl Crawford About that? Yes I did And Carl was like He didn't really There was no paperwork And I asked Half-paint about it That was no you But you had But you had Paperwork I came so Asked him And you had Your paperwork And that matters You know what I'm saying But look at your deal It's still a situation Where it's crappy To own different things That she's doing Because you're not able to Interject You're not able to Interject Here's the thing Court costs money And if we go on a court And paying all this money To go to court to do all this What are we fighting for? And the legal And all the legal justice Can last for years What do we She ain't got I gotta ask She ain't making no money What am I going on Right She ain't making No money Matt Estallion Had some hit songs She cleared some millions That Carl Had to come for that She just Got 16 Okay Here we go Do you feel like Because she When you detach yourself from her Is this the reason why she Stole Sensei Mali's style When you left Is this I mean Because Sensei Mali Was on here And she had something to say You know what I'm saying So I'm just trying To figure out You know because The whisperin' sound Wait a minute The whisperin' sound And she said Check her receipts And check how I want to understand Because I didn't Megan what I'm not Megan And Chen wasn't She wasn't whispering Whisperin' at that time I didn't hear a whisperin' On any of her tracks Before that When she went over there And started rapping It was a And so You gotta make me Understand You developed her What's going on with that Bruh And when did she start The funny thing about That is You can say There's so many people Who did that whisper style You can say There's so many people And Chen has music Way back then That we were just Sitting in the lab Just figuring out Different styles That works for her voice If you listen to Chen and talk She has a low Monotone voice When you listen to her sing She sings in a low For a low tone A low tone So when she Wrapped Naturally it's gonna come out Like that We weren't listening to You really think We would send up Listening to Since Miley's music Like oh shit We need to go ahead And get this right now So you take this Personal This didn't happen with you I was writing the music And the only thing that's Weird to me Did you write the stuff That she was whispering on When she got 10.17 Yes That's the whole style That was going If you go back Before the 10.17 You can hear And bust it back How she's using She's using a Melodical melody But it's still That whisper rap It's just She took away That melody By the time It got to the song No Love Remix And y'all heard that She just took The melody away But it was still Her cadence The music You know what I'm saying Like Did you ever You worked with Miley before? I've never worked With Miley before But she was part She was rapping With Bugatti Casino That's when I first Heard of her Was with Bugatti Casino And then From then on I don't know What the fuck She got into And then she became Who she is today But back then She sounded like Her favorite rapper Was Miley Brazy And she used to Rap like Miley Brazy Back then She spoke a little bit On who she rapped When Pablo Juan First came to Texas And CJ and Bugatti met him We brought him to Texas I seen how Pablo Was fucking recording In that whisper tone And that's really How I implicated Into knowing how to record it Like alright We gonna break it down Like this Cause I was recording that So both of y'all really Went off of the same person Which was Pablo So that's the reason Why the similarities But as a female Rapper It's really who Got their music out First doing the whispering So that's the reason She feels she's number one She's number She came out with it first That's right Both of y'all Replicated the same person Do you feel like She should be paid homage? No Why? Because she used to Because for one This is what's crazy to me All of these years She knew with Channing And she ain't never She Her and Channing Been friends before All of this music shit You've never missed her You wait all of these years When you start losing Your fucking flame And you wanna mention Channing And I like Miley as an artist She knows Miley numbers is going up though But I'm just saying As this like Channing's hotter That's a fact Of course she got 10-17 behind her Exactly And since they had them Jam behind her But she don't have it anymore So why wait this long To say something to Channing Y'all been knowing each other She said she called her She said she called her Had a discussion But that was afterwards That was afterwards Do you know about the call? Yeah I know about the call You was there I was not there I just know about the call You gotta remember me We still are with the same people She's still in the circle So we know We still doing You know what I'm saying But I don't understand why She waited till now To even mention Channing Like The fuck is going on Like you do your thing Like That's crazy to me That's crazy She got a lot of skin In the game with her They knew They knew who And Channing was They never And I remember reaching out To Miley And Miley just was Not fucking with it And it's crazy Like now You and me Will pay me some respect She Normally wouldn't speak on it But We asked her the question Yeah And she Gave the information She posted it She posted it Oh we in After this Some time before Before we all Before you all I didn't know that I didn't know that She posted it And I'm like that's weird Because She ain't never mentioned Channing In this day whole career And like She's seen Channing Poppin She's seen Channing Start making noise And it's like What's happening then If she gonna mention Channing Why not say some positive shit Why say Why need my respect That's the most Most egotistic shit to ever say Why not just say damn You did your thing I remember this I remember that And you doing your thing now What the fuck like Why bring something negative But if you created a style That you feel you know First to do it Do you really think Do you In your part She says she was the first To do it In America Not in America First female First female First female Poor work Dallas area She didn't hear it anywhere else Bro Molly is an excellent artist I love her music But that is so petty For a former Def Jam artist to say I get it That's so petty You got so much going on You got your follow You got so much going on Why bring Channing name up Even post it I don't even know Johnny damn D Ain't playing about it Channing He's still loving Channing You still in love with her See he quiet He didn't say nothing But I'm in love with the career You're not in love with Channing You know what ends You know what I feel That Okay woman And I I don't know Channing personally I'm just speaking from A woman perspective You were focused on The goal of So it's always The photo shoots Always this Always that Woman We want the date Every now and again We want that time Away from the work Every now and again And all you were focused On is The goal The goal And in life We have to learn How to balance stuff In life Somewhat Cause there's no life That's perfect You're gonna still Have your ups and downs How did this end How did it end Like you was more like Joe Jackson Yeah don't put I can Tina Cause that's a lot of abuse No but I'm just saying How did it end Like she didn't just Go up to 10 17 And y'all had been together That night Y'all was sleeping together She said they spoke To that day Y'all was that night Like y'all was 10 17 When he called No before When you Your father Nah She had left And we was talking And she just She was gone already Yeah When did she tell you She needed some space She just left One morning She didn't tell him She didn't tell you She didn't tell you She needed some space We got into it Over some petty again And then she And then I did My usual Motherfucking Leave me alone And she left me alone Then she was like You was in Texas When you did that And she was in Atlanta She was not She was in Atlanta Nah she was up She was getting ready To take a drive To Atlanta And she just left And it was like Cool You didn't go after Nah cause I got a lot of pride Bro you didn't go after You see just like in the movies You supposed to go after You supposed to go after now This is real life This wasn't a movie I just wanted my business To be situated As cool As she felt Did you have feelings for Yeah I did But you didn't go after Johnny down deep Because I'm worried About my baby The career Yeah but you can't Have a career She's part of that career Yeah she's part of that career I apologize a million times To this girl So many times When you Let me tell you something about this Basically when a woman is fed up Man listen No no When you You know the One thing that you can do With a person Is be intimate with them It over exceeds Everything else in life So when you done that It took y'all to A whole another atmosphere When it come down To y'all conversation Y'all talking And everything So now that you guys Crossed these lines You have to figure out A way through that Algorithm To bring things back To fruition You're not going to be able To do it without some Real serious In-depth Oh Sacrificing Sacrificing Sacrificing Coming up with ways To figure out how y'all Can You would never Have been going If you You got to figure this out Man If she was Who she was today I'm pretty sure The shit would have been Self But because of who she is And her influence And everybody who follows her Is impossible But you So hold on So you're saying That she's the type of person That's also influenced by people By others easily By others easily Around her Since this whole time We've been cold And we've been uncool We've been cold And we've been uncool And it's just people Influencing How long ago Has it been now That the breakup Breakup And It's been like two years So do you think There's no money From them in two years No And there's no reconciliation In her Try to She doesn't care It's not It's not about the business She's doing this Bro, they make They doing shows Personally don't want to You're getting no show money Nothing Like we could I easily just Trying to say less Bro, she getting Some show money My dude But it's under the table That shit If it's not recorded You won't call Gucci Or whoever They dealing with the owner They don't give a damn They don't care As long as they get Nerds And it's easier to work Without the middleman She got contracts though She do So yeah But if nothing is recorded That she's getting anything What they gonna do about it What money is she making Right It's gonna show like nothing Money and I fight What kind of fight boy Is there any fight about it You gotta pull up She ain't got no problem With this girl man I wish her the best I hope she does everything But just Tell the truth Do you ever think about Just letting it go And just say You know what Hell no He ain't letting it go Nah I'll put in too much work Hell no Hell no I'm gonna let the legal team deal With it, let her Whatever she wanna do With the legal team We can come up with a negotiation That's fine But as far as You know what I'm saying Getting into it with her And going back and forth If I'm not into that I don't even fucking do that She got it She wins You're not willing To sit down with her? I've been trying He's trying If you could sit down With her What would be the thing Because it's hard to get past The fact that y'all Had this crazy relationship You know I think about Like Beyoncé and them Drunking in love And stuff when I'm thinking About y'all I'm thinking about Yeah like this A relationship Relationship while y'all Doing this I'm thinking about Okay but If they sit down together The first thing you want To know is Are you trying to mend The business relationship Or are you trying to mend The personal relationship Or are you trying to mend Both What you trying to mean Business So you don't want to be Personal back again At all with her Nah I just feel The way she went about this If she feels The way she feels about The relationship And that's understandable But you know what I'm saying Even on bad terms There's supposed to be Some type of loyalty there That's hard You can't I'm not going to say Nothing is impossible But it's hard It's hard to say Okay y'all were In love or together Or whatever And now you want Just business You have to be Mentally grown up To be able to handle That type of relationship Yeah they didn't have No closure I done figured it out over Here They need closure money They gotta have some closure They done already The money everything went wrong You know what I'm saying But when you think about Relationships When you think about People that have been In relationships They break up This entertainment It'll do it every time anyway You know people Especially people Who start off together And they doing music Together It always ends up Being a thing where The contracts The business And it never ends And one was Jay and Beyonce Yeah That's it Me and my girlfriend Yeah That was it All the other ones Have been crazy Think about it Yeah you ain't No you got You got Gucci and this old lady But they didn't She wasn't singing though She and the chin But it's just sad Because at the end Of the day Bruh it's business At the end of the day It's just Being that person In the position She in now She like Everybody's gonna Want to ride that wave She got going on For her So That's just how the shit goes Like She's in a position Right now that I can't even I don't want to go against You got it You know what I'm saying She feels how she feels About the relationship And she feels like She did right With her decision That's her You know what I'm saying Then Just don't leave out The facts of How everything happened And how We built Who you were Together And Made that shit happen So you going on You going on without Of course You going on You can't worry about that Can't worry about that Yeah Can't worry about that There's nothing I can do About that She feels how she feels She locked in She got the people around her That They don't even know Because nobody truly knows What the fuck went on Between me and her But me and her Nobody was around Well I hated I hated having Because I mean It seemed like You got an itch For dealing with the women So The long as you Get the business part Straight What we're going to do Is just get our business together Well that's now After you've been hurt You've been hurt But it takes trial and error To learn What does that mean What does that mean No like Like The business When I talk to you Say man damn You know like Like damn I just want My business That's my baby Not her But the business The business You hurt Nigga that's a hurt Baby business How many times do I say That you seen a nigga Take a female And just like I want everything to work For you How many times Do you see that happen No you don't see it man You don't see it Females complain about What niggas don't do You know what I'm saying But then when You have a nigga That does everything That they make these posts About They look at the bad That was in the situation And that's what matters The most is the bad Even though the good That weighs the bad I gave you A million dollar Opportunity People will give Their lives The opportunity You have right now In a lifetime To be with Gucci Man in the position You in right now You know how many people Will give their life for that Wow But it's crazy Because once they get On these deals The deal becomes The deal breaker When they come down To the people Who they start with You know what I mean The deal becomes The deal breaker For the people And it breaks The whole Because the bigger The more So it basically Just divides The whole situation up And it's not And that's not That's not the way That it should be It gotta be a way to where Like I told Carl Like when it was A rocknation thing Like man You know That's crazy Man the ministry People getting your ears Surrapped I got better Opportunity I got better people That do this They have top hits This and it's like But the reason They even know Who you are That's dope That's real They wouldn't even know you Everybody who's showing you All of this love Wouldn't give a damn And the one thing That I was real Just firm about Is Fort Worth Really never supported Channing I remember building her And I never got the support From the city It was the outsiders It was Dallas It was Atlanta It was Houston Fort Worth Really never supported Channing I gotta ask you this Shout out to Channing Man look Maybe You know Hey man We ain't bad We ain't mad That you got a number of love For you I can't speak For Channing Damn D Y'all gotta get y'all stuff together But Give me the top three orders Of all time Dead or live Top three orders Of all time Any genre Dead or live Number one Michael Jackson Everybody say Michael Jackson But some people say Michael Jackson Not even on Chris Brownie level I'm just telling you What they doing This is what they saying I figured it out Chris Brown can play basketball good Chris Brown What the hell they got This nigga too What does that have to do With Michael Jackson I didn't think it should be They said I'm telling you what they said They said Overall talented He can play basketball He can draw You don't know Michael Jackson Could play basketball He just He didn't That wasn't his main thing He didn't He did it at home He probably had a basketball court There at home He was hooping with Michael Jordan on jam There you go I don't know that He had They got different things going They had a whole damn What they call that thing That house each and the guy Never never never Never never land Never never land Right next to Peter Pan He had it going So So Number one Michael Jackson Number two Any John Number two Drake That boy a little Drake Yeah, yeah Drake Number three Number three Number three That one get them every time don't it Number three N ten That's nigga tripping No Number three To be real To be honest South Walker That's my nigga man I like that nigga right there boy I gotta say South Walker flying South Walker That nigga flying That nigga Texas That nigga two just like me He was Texas nigga He created the sound He said nigga this is the ticket sound This is what you nigga need to follow That nigga go and win it too He real original with it So man Drake Drake more talented than Chris Brown Drake more talented All over Just Drake more talented than Chris Brown Don't give me all that I don't know I'ma speak musically Hell yeah Way more talented I mean Chris Brown is vocally better You know what I'm saying But I don't think Drake is getting many of his songs Wrote for him as much as Chris Brown is So Drake is more You think Drake is that guy Drake is that guy And then the number show it The number show And you gotta look at the genres he can touch Like I'm big on that Because I know what I do And you know what I'm saying If I can recognize what impresses me And Drake impresses me Not so many people impress me And Drake is impressive What he can do His variety of genres he can switch to Damn I agree with you I gotta agree with you That boy bad man So man So If you could go back and change anything Yo Before this 10-17 deal When you were just starting with Billing and chatting up What would you change? I'll change I dealt with the situation I gotta say that Damn I gotta I gotta agree I'll change How would you cheat spending more time with her? Father than work I couldn't do that I ain't lying That was never gonna happen What would you do? What would you change? I wouldn't be so hard On how I press the issue Of how she needed to be a star I eternal What'd you mean? What'd you do? What'd you do? Sculpted everything How did you make up Bella? I remember just It was so much I did It was just It was just artist development There's so much I did Shit that I used to tell You gotta watch out for And how How the industry is And how no one's really your friend Everybody's out to benefit This is the facts Like You're gonna have genuine people in the world But you're gonna have a lot of snakes That's gonna come at you And use you for what you've got Until you're all dried up Because I've learned from my experiences Coming up So all I had was my experiences And just the music business What I could teach her And I was trying to scope her To teach her what No one could teach anybody else You know what I'm saying Something that I actually experienced And been through this So this is what you have to expect That's dope man That you understand that now So we know a great Another great female artist Is gonna come through you Because that's, I mean This is something that Carl did He went and got Erica Banks After that Is there any female artist That you're working with? Yeah, Mariah Monaco Okay, and that's Y'all working? Yeah, we're working We're working on this sound Just getting it all the way right She's gonna be dope She's featured on my EP also On YBT You can check that out On all platforms How can people get a hold to you? You can hit me up on Instagram JohnnyDMD, J-H-O-N-I-E-D-M-D All platforms, JohnnyDMD And it's where you get all my music videos Anything you need You can see my crazy lifestyle Love you, man Thank you so much for coming on the show, man You one of them guys, man You done boss talk, man Say, man, we love you, brother Yeah, little yachts Check it, man Check it, man Check it, man It's been another great segment Of Boss Talk 101 What a boss is talk