 Israel, in the West Bank policies, are not citizens. They have very little control over the state that really governs their life. They go before military courts, which are often conducted in Hebrew, but they don't understand, which have prosecution rates of kind of 99% according to some studies. They have to, they're at, they're traveled. They wanna get to Jerusalem or to the Jordan Valley or inside, on the other side of Israel. Separation value is really dramatically limited. This really has brutal consequences for people's lives. And it's hard for those of us who love Israel to face that because we believe that Israel means well and we feel like we in some sense know those kids who are sent to serve in the West Bank. And we know that they're good kids. And yet, the more you interact with Palestinians, the more you're forced to confront that even these good people who we feel connected to, we love, we admire so much, that there's a system in place that becomes brutal in practice. And it's very hard to come to terms when you know people personally who've been brutalized by it. I mean, there was a guy who came to see me a few months ago named Fadi Quran. He's a, I mean, literally like you could not dream up the more ideal Palestinian that is an American Jew or even Israeli you would want. This guy, he reads Martin Buber and Hana Aram. He's inspired, he's a Gandian. He's obsessed by the civil rights movement and by the American Jewish role in the civil rights movement. He came to talk to me because he said, we want to do freedom rides in the West Bank, in which we get on buses and try to go to East Jerusalem because we can't go to East Jerusalem, most of us. And if we did this in the spirit of freedom rides, knowing that American Jews were so involved, do you think American American Jews would support us? And I have to say, just hearing him ask that question was so poignant to me because the true answer is that American Jews will never know. That's the real answer. We really don't know. They did do these freedom rides, they got the hell beat at, no, they didn't pay attention. Then he had a confrontation with some police disguised as federal. I won't say this, I know this guy is a good person. I just happen to know, he is, I know him. He was accused of assaulting some, an Israeli soldier, but there's a video. We did not assault an Israeli soldier. He was arguing with Israeli soldier. He was angry, but he was beaten very badly. And then put into detention for several days. Now there's a secret file against him. Can't leave the West Bank. Doesn't know what's in this secret file because he can't see the evidence against him. And I talked to him recently about this question. And for me, the struggle is, how do I deal with this? How do I deal with it emotionally? Because I think one of the greatest challenges and difficulties, frankly, for Israelis on the Israeli left, who go to the West Bank. Most Israelis don't, except maybe in their military service. The people who go a lot find it hard not to feel alienated to no one's society. And I think that happens to American Jews, too, who go spend a lot of time. Even the most American Jews who go to Israel never go and experience Palestinian life. They never do. The birthright trips don't take you. The big guys who go to the singers, go to the King David Hotel, six times a year to the mafras who meet with their Israeli mafra they never do it. And it's very, very powerful and very challenging and difficult. And I find that it doesn't mean the politics are not complicated. It doesn't mean the solution is simple. I'm not trying to say that. It is complicated. But politics can be complicated. And there can also be a moral reality underneath. And just while we shouldn't use the moral reality to obfuscate the political complication, we shouldn't use the fact that it's complicated politically to forget the fact that there's a moral reality. And the moral reality is one that I think American Jews have a lot of difficulty dealing with. I have difficulty dealing with it.