 We'll change the subject off drugs and move on. I got to ask you. I got to ask you about the brawl last year. So yeah, it's a must topic. I don't know if you want to talk about it or not, but it was one of the more entertaining things that happened last year. Absolutely crazy. They have three guys converging to stop him. Third base coach, this is his target. Crick comes out. This guy comes out. They all come to stop him. They do a terrible job. He evades them, throws a punch, but misses, gets the hat off, hat knock. I watched your breakdown, and I was hoping you had field mics because then I could give you context of what was going on. Now you couldn't hear anything. This stems from a huge miscommunication on. I love this. A, the umpires of the umpire. Larry Hanover. Huge miscommunication error. Number two, and unfortunately, so that happened in June or July or August, whatever it was. And I still haven't had my appeal phone call with Mr. Tori. It's been a long time. I haven't had it yet. I was fined and then appealed and I haven't had my sit down because I was ready to blow up. This is what happened. This is what happened in your umpire to this. And this is, because of your umpire, this is what happened. And this is what transpired. Context, so we were fighting with them all year. And like, look, not a fighter. I haven't been in a fight in a long time. I haven't thrown an angry punch in a long time. Probably like 10 years. And we talk about, oh, how old am I? Since high school, okay? So it's been a long time. And for me, if it's not personal, there's no reason for me to put my career on the line to break my hand, throw out my shoulder. If it's, if I'm not personally involved, if you're not like mother, FAM, or my family, like it doesn't matter, okay? And it's not good. It's not good for the game, but whatever. I mean, you have 30 alpha males out on the field and something happens and then it's the heat of the moment something happened. So there was a lot of red lights ran at the start of the season and it started with watching a homer. I still got plate coverage. Babam, long homerun and he looks at it. And Archer's seeing him looking at it. This dude's in love. This dude's angry as hell. I came up with Dietrich. I think he's a great dude. I came up with them with the Marlins. But that's what it started with. And there was a lot of escalators on like, and there were multiple characters to this story from beginning to end. Who did he hit that off of? Was it Archer? It was Archer, yeah. So if it was me, right? And I'm just, I'm telling you how I would operate. Look, if you want to watch your home are great. If that's what you want to do. If I'm on the mound, I'm hitting the next guy, right? So if you're on deck, I'm hitting you and saying I hit you because of your teammate. If you want to dish it out, dish it out. Yeah, I yell the teammate. What are you doing? Because I'm sure there were guys in the dugout that were like, what are you doing, dude? But I'm not gonna put words in their mouth. And I'm sure, you know, but that's how I would have dealt with it instead of waiting one more go in the lineup and then hitting him. Because everyone knew it was an off day for a lot of guys that first fight. It was an off day for a lot of guys. And then when he came up the second time there were a lot of guys on both sides at the top rail. Because everyone knew it was about to happen. Cerelli doesn't even put down any signs. This is his next at bat. First pitch, boom, behind you. Look at Dietrich. He doesn't even really care. He's like, okay, that's fine. The ump says, that's a warning. Dietrich's just like, man, you really took offense to that, huh? You scream in, Mel, Melky's right in the middle. They're just yelling, I'll fuck you up. I'll fuck you up. I'll fuck you up. I'll fuck you up. That was an early fight. It was like an April 7th brawl. The first one. Yeah. Early in the season to be brawling. I tell people that all the time because bat flipping and, you know, kind of just showboating, I guess is what you'd call it. That's become the norm. And I really don't have a problem with it, but what I've told people all the time is I said, yeah, you know, you could want that in the game. But the problem is people are really competitive. And when they're on the field, they're going to be thinking about it differently from maybe when they're off the field. And the problem is the guy that's, the guys that are doing it, they're the ones, they're not the ones that are going to get a hit. It's going to be the best player on your team. It's going to be possibly like you said, the guy right after. So you're you showboating doing that so you could post it on the gram or whatever to be, you know, look cool on TV. You're putting your teammates at risk. Right. And then that's why I would hit the next guy because if you really want to cause a controversy, like you make it between two teammates instead of me wearing a different jersey, right? Like, look, the game's changing now. Like personalities are rampant now. Like there's the game's getting younger and like, hey, I'm all for personality. Like without a doubt, like we need to brand our players and we need to brand baseball better. And if this is the way of the new generation, like, sure, let's roll with it. You know, not everybody's going to love it, but this is how it is. And if guys start doing that and their teammates getting hurt and it's going to take somebody saying, hey, I'm getting hit because of you. Let's tone it down a little bit, not me throwing at a guy saying like, don't do that because you may be mad. Right. And guys, and I've never been a fan of throwing at guys. There's one guy I threw at one and I won't tell you who, but it's been, it's happened once. And, and I just, as soon as it left my hand, I go, oh, shit, that was too high. Like as soon as it left my hand, but it wasn't, it wasn't too high. But, but it's not smart. Right. Like guys throw too damn hard now. Guys throw too hard. Like I'm not putting your career at risk because of, because you just showed. But like, to me, to me, it doesn't make sense. But, but anyway, so that was the first fight. Right. So there's a lot of context. So there's a lot of red lights brand. So the second one, you're not in your jersey. So that's probably why when I made it, I didn't have your, your name at the point. Yeah. And he gets, so he gets your hat. So you're right in the thick of it. Yeah. So, so what I, what I think happened. So what I, so a lot happened prior to that and you went over in your breakdown, right? Like he, he's coming in, he's hot. Right. He's hot. He's looking, there's one thing he's wanting to do and it's fight. He didn't care about pitching. No, no. Right. And that's what we saw on the bench. Okay. Well, we saw on the bench. That's what we saw. And that was to everybody on the field. They were like, this is not going to go good. Okay. This is not going to go. There's something bad is going to happen. And again, there were a lot of red lights ran leading up to this. Okay. This wasn't, this wasn't just a random moment. There was a lot of red lights ran to get to this moment. Dietrich first step out of the game and Kela throws over his head. That's pussy shit. And you know that you've got the ball. Don't forget that. You've got the fucking ball. All right. The next event is revenge. Hughes hits Marte automatic ejections because they were warned. Garrett comes in and look at his body language. He woke up itching for a fight. He's telling everyone, yo, blue, I know you don't give a fuck what I'm about to fight down. I was yelling at the umpire Larry Hanover, the home plate umpire. I said, Larry, don't let him do anything stupid. Like he wants to fight Larry. Don't let him do anything stupid. As Larry's walking out, he points right at me, like right at me and keep in mind, I'm on the third, the far third base side dugout. Francisco Cervelli is on the home plate side. So just keep that in mind for later. Okay. Larry Hanover points right at me and says, you're gone. You're gone. Like toss tosses me. So here we go. Well, he looks at me. So it's after. So that's the end. And poor Jared, like the nicest guy on planet earth. Like Jared's got to go ahead on, right? Okay. So here we go. I'm yelling at Larry. Don't let him do anything stupid. The home plate up. Like the home plate up right there. I'm yelling, don't let him do anything stupid. Before he even, No, no, no. This is, yeah. This is before. So this is when he's getting taken. Yeah. I'm yelling a coupe. Yeah. And like RIP coupe because like he was part of this too. Right. So like, and he's been awesome. Like my interactions with coupe have been like amazing. Up until that point, he's a guy that I remember like an umpire name and face you remember. Okay. So everyone knows what's about to happen. This is, this is not like, everyone knows what's happened. And that's another thing. It's hilarious. We got traded in the middle of that's, that's just the cherry on top. And he's so big. Oh my gosh. So like the first fight we locked horns and like my fingers like broke. I was terrified dude. I was like, holy shit. Right. He's a big dude. So um, I know you were tripping here. You must have been saying some stuff here. Gives him a base hit. No. Like, I'm not, I'm not a trooper. Okay. So, so I mean, I was yelling stuff prior to that, right? So he gets, so the homerun happens worse. We're high for like, here we go. So is that just a point of that to you? Is that what he's getting? Take it out. He points right there. He's pointing at your dugout. Is he pointing at you there? He might be. Like I, if this is him getting taken out. Yeah. It is. Yeah. Yeah. So like, we were free and some stuff. And like Suarez like kind of looks in our dugout. He's like, yo, chill. Like stop. Like he's going to snap. What's that? So, so we know it's, so this is what I'm yelling at. Larry, like Larry, don't let him do anything stupid. And then as he's coming on, I think he tossed me like, right, but yeah, so he's, he's over there. He tosses points at me and I'm under the impression that I'm thrown out of the game. Cause my eight teammates next to me see him point right at me and say, you're gone. So when I say that, I go, I go, F you Larry. That's bullshit. You shouldn't like, that's bull. So, so, but he's standing next to a mirror though. So what I think is a mirror herd, F you a mirror. That's bullshit. So I go to turn, I go to turn to leave cause I just got thrown out of the game. And then that's what happens. I go, Holy shit. So like one camera angle looks like I die. Okay. Like, so that's, yeah, that's me. That's correct. The beard. That's correct. And like, okay, as a reminder, I haven't thrown a punch in a long time. I like, I'm not, like I'm not wanting to fight. I didn't think he was going to actually do it. Okay. And he did it. And there was a couple of seconds where I go like, Oh shit, he actually did it. Like, good for him. He actually, he actually did it. So, so I'm not like, misses right there. You wish. Yeah. My guardian angel threw me down to the ground. Cause like, what? So, so this all happens when I go, wow. So, and here's another thing. Like guys only get maybe a couple of opportunities if they do, maybe even one opportunity to be like, to show your toughness. Okay. Like, like Jose Bautista, man, great ball player, but like he will forever be remembered as getting rock, right? So like, no matter how tough he is, no matter if you can fight or whatnot, like guys might not only, might only give one or two opportunities to show their toughness, right? So that's in the back of my mind too. So like, so, so that's what happens. A lot of punches get thrown, a lot of punches miss. And Amir's a big dude too. He's got a reach. He's got a hell of a reach. And I didn't realize till that was going on. So You like that cops? Yeah. Yeah. And he wants to get in there so bad, you know, he's just shaking his head. SM, SMDH. So, so that happens. We go to the ground. I get hit on the ground, not by Amir by somebody. And I know who hit me. And, you know, it might not happen this year. It might not happen next year, but I know who hit me on the ground on the side of the head. I'm looking, I'm looking. But so, so that happens. And look, it's not good, right? And the grants give me things. It's not good. Hey, like this is not a good scrum. The archers got trampled. Yeah. No breakdown. It was, it was funny. I was hoping, I was hoping you would hear what was going on. So, okay. So this happens anyways. I'm out of there as soon as I hit the ground and I get hit in the head. I got out of there. So I'm like, I'm not, this is, this is insane. Cause you start, You back here? No, I'm, I'm gone. Like, I'm gone. I'm either like, I'm by the railing with somebody. Like I'm kind of gone. So... This is a long brawl. No, it is. Yeah, it is. And it was like a Wednesday night in Cincinnati with like, nobody. So, so anyways, not a good look. And like a lot of red lights ran out. Like this shouldn't have happened, right? When you're, when you're, when you're, when you're thinking about it. And it's like, this shouldn't have happened, right? And like, baseball is such a small community where like, look, I know I'm not going to be a pirate in my entire life. I know I'm not. And everyone is one text away from like getting traded and saying like, what do you have on this guy? Like, what, like, is this guy a good dude? Is he, is he going to have your back? Is he awesome? So like, I never want to like vilify myself. But that's just me personally, because I know I'm going to have a lot of teammates from other teams, right? You're not going to like every teammate, obviously. But like, if I'm on your team or our same goal as the World Series, I don't want anything to hinder that relationship. So the next day I go up before the game, I'm like, Larry, what the hell happened last night? Like, why did you throw me out of the game? Why did you throw me out of the game when you were saying, Larry, don't let anything stupid happen. Don't let him do anything dumb because you didn't listen to me and something stupid and dumb happened. And he goes, what are you talking about? I didn't throw you out of the game. I'm like, what do you mean? You pointed right at me. I was like, no, I threw Surveille out of the game. I go, I'm like, we're on completely different sides of the dugout. My English is, his English is good, but my English is better than this. So like, you got to know this is coming from my mouth. And like, this could have all been avoided if you like didn't throw any of us out of the game, right? I wouldn't have yelled an F-bomb and I wouldn't have said that's bullshit. And there's probably, who knows, it wouldn't have been directed at me. You know what I mean? So like, there's big miscommunication. And he's like, well, you were over the fence first. Where it's like, what was I supposed to do? Like, invite him into our dugout? Like, what do you want me to do? Do you want me like, an old thing was a disaster. And it wasn't a good look. And you know, it's unfortunate that it happened, but it just, it was wild. Well, you're aware that the managers, like that Bell, Oh, they hated each other. Yeah, yeah. Who read manager Bell is coming, rifling in straight for the opposing manager, Clint Turtle, gives him a push. Bam, pushes him. Bench Coach, I don't know what Eckstein does for the Pirates and Eckstein gets the manager down. Sonny Gray, he was about to move on, sees that his manager's down and jumps right to it. Sonny Gray is a hero in this fight. Look at this, Sonny Gray gets him. They're rolling around bat and donut underneath their heads. Here we go, Clint Hurdles out there. And they so mad, man. The other, he's so mad. You're a piece of shit. You're a piece of shit. You're, you're a piece of shit. Oh man, looking like John Stewart's angry baseball brother. One of the crazier parts is like the managers are sprinting at each other. That was nuts. Yeah, it was, it was a good scrub. It was a good scrub. Papa Bear is trying to protect their cubs, man. He's got to scrum it out too. Yeah, I mean. Did you guys have any contact like the next day? Like I'm sure there's guys that are, you know, friends like. Yeah, so you said you knew Dietrich, like did you guys talk about it or was just kind of like, nah, there's a lot of blood there. That's, that's not. Well, I wanted to clear up some things with, I played summer ball with a couple of those guys. So I wanted to clear up some things and be like, look, this wasn't a team. Like this was an individual did this and then an individual did this, like this didn't come from the team. Okay. What happened did not come from the team. And we just want you guys to know that this didn't come from the team. And then just, and just cleared up and be like, that was ugly. This is what happened. I hope it never happens again. And we'll see. We're going to keep a look out on your hit batters next year. Keep a look out. We're going to keep a chart. I'm going to be smart with it. And like I said in the beginning, like I really, I really don't like hitting guys. I just, I don't think there's, I don't think there's a reason to. I also throw like 90 miles an hour. Okay. So it's not going to hurt, right? So like it will hurt. Dude, just hit it. It will. That was a funny clip last year. Buster Posey got hit with like a 60 mile per hour chained curveball and he got the first. And he looked at the picture. He goes, it still hurts. Yeah. Yeah. He gets in the right spot. You're kind of just like, oh man.