 Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E.C.O. And I'm here with the lovely official, Mr. Mako. What's going on? Not now, my dad. Okay, this time, man. Look out. And she ain't back, but she here, man. Is it Lil' Brooke? Yes. Is it Big Brooke? Lil' Brooke. Big Brooke. Which one is it? Which other one? Okay. Look how little she is. No, it's Big. But she big. I'm big. Stop playing. She big at heart, man. So, hey, what's going on? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? So, hey, what's going on with you, man? What? You talking about, did I listen to your music? It's always two of y'all on the music when I see it. Nah, I got some music by myself. You got one Lil' Boy or something. Yeah, that's the only song, boy. I'm finna drop a tape by myself. That's the only song. Mm-hmm. That's a trip. So, go ahead and get her. Yeah, she say she ready. So, I wanted to know about Lil' Brooke before the music. Oh, sweet. I was just a regular kid. Like, just ate all my friends. Kids, somebody who give trouble. Somebody, tell me about you. I mean, I got it. Raised with your mom and dad? My mama. Your mama? Yeah. Where was your dad? In jail. In jail? How old was he when he left? How old were you when he left? When... Oh, so you don't remember? Nah. Is he... He's cool. Yeah. Fuck with him or something like that. Is he still in jail? Nah, he not in jail. Okay, he out now. You got to build a relationship with him, but you just don't really deal with him. Uh... It ain't a relationship, but we cool. He cool. He cool. He like, a father like that. A father figure. He just like a homeboy. Like, you know, we smoke together, stuff like that. Okay, okay. So, where did you go to school? South Grand Prairie, in Crosswinds. Okay, okay. How was it over there growing up? Like, going to school? Regularly, it's Grand Prairie, like... You know, when I went to school, I stole all the shoes, everything from the high school. All kinds of stuff. I was tripping. She wasn't that bad. Oh, you're a good person. Yeah, I'm a good person. Your mama white, right? My mama is white. I know it. That's the white part going right. The nigga part ain't... You know what I'm talking about? Nah, my siblings bad as fuck, so I don't know about that. Are you serious? How many siblings you got? Uh, I got two younger siblings and three older siblings. Okay. So, do you... So, when you... How did you learn that I'm going to do music? What make you... What gives you the audacity? Like, to thank you, just gonna... Well, I was always in the studio with them. Okay. So, like, there was a reason for me to rap. Like, I was just always sitting in there. And so, one day, they just told me to do a song. So, I had gotten in a song with Molly. And then I had made a song with them. And then I just started rapping. But I used to suck back then, like... How did you meet Molly? On Instagram. Really? Mm-hmm. And y'all just clicked? Yeah, but I had met her, like, when I was in eighth grade on Instagram. And then we just started being cool. I was in the house one day. And then it was cool. Really? Who go the hardest? Yeah, niggas. So, I go harder than anybody. No, no, okay, okay. Well, I just wanted to know that. When she here on Boss Talk 101, you know. Yeah. She probably said she go harder than me, but I know I go harder. Man, Big Brooke go harder. She go harder than Molly. No, I'm just kidding. I'm never starting that today. Now, y'all both dope though. I know y'all music. So, when y'all... Are you still signing to Def Jam or no? No, I haven't been signing to Def Jam in a year. Okay. So, what happened? I mean, because it seemed like when I started researching you, it seemed like it was a time where you just kind of fell back. Yeah, but with Def Jam, it was more like a little like... We were signed individually, but they wanted to keep doing like Molly and Brooke. And like, we are our own person. Like, I don't want to do Brooke and she could do Molly, but we not know group or nothing, but that's what they wanted to do. So, shit, like, they was just making too many rules, like trying to tell you what to do. So, they weren't doing nothing. I wasn't doing nothing. So, they didn't have no choice. Tell me how you guys end up connecting with Def Jam? I had posted a video on Twitter, a live video. And it had blew. It had got a million views. And A&R had hit me in the end. And you told them, hey, what about Molly? No, they had... I had gave them my manager information. Who was your manager at the time? Got a TV. Okay. I remember those guys. I seen them. Yeah. And then they had hit him up. Oh, they still managing you? Mmm. Let's be real now. This boss talk 101. What a boss is talking. So, good is my manager right now. Okay. But my contract about to end, so I'm going to go independent for a leave by myself. Well, not really. I'm trying to get there. I'm trying to get in there. I already had them DM'd you. You didn't answer me. You suck. I didn't see it. Bruh, I DM'd you. I DM'd you. I DM'd you. Nigga, it's a trip how y'all be doing. Y'all think y'all better than somebody. You gotta DM me again. No, no. I DM'd you, bro. I promise you. And I said, oh, she ain't going to answer. I remember you telling me. I DM'd everybody, dude, like Erica Banks. I DM'd her before she even got, at least she answered that. She answered you. Yeah, at least she answered that. You too much. No, I DM'd people and I'd be like, oh, they already DM'd me. Like, I don't receive anything. No, I understand. I know already it's a lot of people. You probably get a lot of DMs. Yeah. Yeah, but I had lost my Instagram, so I don't be getting that much no more. But that's what's up. I DM'd you. I was like, I'm going to see what's going on with her, because she ain't doing nothing in a while. I'm being nosy. I just started back working. Like, this year has been, like, the most work I did for myself, but I just really ain't dropping nothing yet. Well, that was after, and that was after Water had left off him on here. And I did not know, I didn't even know you knew him until after he had passed, because you started posting like crazy. I'm like, what the heck is she doing? I didn't even know. You know what I'm saying? So, tell us a little bit about it. We gotta get into that. I mean, as far as what he meant to you. So, how me and Water first met? Like, that was just my friend, you know? Like, we always hung out. How long ago? I seen him on the video. Like, when y'all was doing y'all videos and stuff, I would see Watery on there. Yeah, like, that was my friend, but we fucked with each other, like, you know? But, I met Watery. When he lived in San Antonio, that was probably like a long time ago. I don't remember what year it was. I don't know how to explain it. How did you meet somebody? How did you meet him? Because you was really low-key with it. Like, you wasn't saying nothing about it before he passed away. I didn't see no pictures like that. Them pictures went crazy. Well, because it's a lie to it. Me and Watery, it's a lie to it. Like, tell us about it. I mean, you don't boss talk 101. Which I wouldn't know. I mean, like, why was you so secretive about it? I wasn't really secretive. Like, I went, like, I've been in Watery's videos. He's been in my videos. Like, we've been lobbying each other. I post shit, like, when we all together, just not know. I really ain't feel the need to, like, just post, like, I'll fuck with him. Like, we just really ain't do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We go, we'll go post it together, but we ain't really on, we don't really post each other on Instagram, like that. I get it, I get it. Especially if you know Watery. You know, like, it's not, it's not gonna be all that. Yeah, yeah. Well, I just, I just know, I love seeing the chemistry when you posted it. Thank you for that, for me. Because I was just getting annoyed, you know what I'm saying? So that helped me to see, you know what I'm saying? Okay, you know, this side of him. Because, me and him, we had great conversation there. One of my favorite interviews by far, my course was tripping. You remember, right? Yeah. So it was a great interview. And I didn't get to, you know, we got to talk about a lot of things. On my platform, it's a lot of God come out. So I just thank God that I got the opportunity to speak to him. And it was something that was real, from a real place. Most people don't take the time. The first thing, when I heard that it happened, I asked my wife, I was like, did I get to say something to him? You know, to give him something. Because I know God like I do. You know what I'm saying? And you, you could tell on interview, I'm gonna put you in a place where you got to take a panoramic view of who you are. You know what I'm saying? So I definitely enjoyed the interview. What's up with you and this little girl? Don't you got a little girl? Yeah, I got a daughter. Her name's Scott. Yeah, I seen that. How old is she? She's one. Oh, well, wait a minute. And Scott, who's the baby daddy? Yeah, nigga. Okay, buddy is not. Buddy is not her dad, first of all. Wait, we're not gonna speak. No, you're gonna keep it. No, it's not private, but like, that's not my people. Well, people called me and told me who the daddy was already. Niggas gonna kill me. That's my kid, though. I get it. Ain't nothing wrong with that. He is your kid. I get it. Or she is your kid. So what's up with the music? I mean, when we go here, a project, do you say you're going independent by yourself? You want to show us what a little bro can do? You nervous? Because you ain't doing nothing by yourself with that one song. No, I'm not nervous. But you dope. You dope. I ain't gonna lie. I love it. I promise. Thank you. I'm not nervous, though, because like, even though I haven't dropped music by myself, I still record by myself. Like, I have a lot of songs that I'm gonna drop, but I don't know if I want to drop a tape to drop in videos. You got your boys with you. I'm gonna tell you something. Them niggas working. I love the way they get down. Yes, they be working. Some niggas working. So if you have another opportunity to sign with a label, would you? But how much money? Like, a million. If they give me a million dollars, like, yeah, okay. I would sign. Yeah. I get it. So when you go independent, you're gonna come, we're gonna do a project together. Yeah, I think you need somebody to invest. Let's be real. Yeah, investment is good. It's hustling. It's just like shooting dice. It's like, okay, let's do something together. And then you move on. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But you're scared, huh? You're like, I'm not scared. I'm not scared. I'm not. I'm not scared. But like, working with people already, like, people are trying to tell me what to do, like... Hell no. I don't care what you do. You're young. I'm old. Niggas, I don't know what you do. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, I can't do what you do. So that's the good part about it, right? Because you basically, you're on your own lane. I mean, I know you know what's going on, because, yeah, you with these niggas all the time. That's why I be trying to explain to people they'll be trying to, like, just be open. I'm like, I'm young. Like, I know what's cool, like, all day. I'm not going to do that. So that's what they was trying to do. They was trying, like, Def Jam was trying to critique you on how you would do things. Yeah, just, like, maybe be different. Like, it's like dress girlier and do all that. Like, I'm not... I don't want to do that. Like, I'm girly, like, get my eyelashes and get my nails done, but I'm not. I don't have to... Just, like... No, I just... They had Renita Spencer on here the other week, the one that sung The Bar Baby with Big Mo, and she's revamping herself, and she says that she tried on American Idol, and they wanted her to dress, you know, real skimpy, and, you know, not wearing much, and she says she didn't want to do it. And that's why she didn't, you know... How do you do... How far would you go? Like, would you mean... And trying to create a character to be successful? I just don't want to create a character. That's, like, my final, like, decision. Like, I'm not changing. Like, people like me for me. Like, people like me being cool. Like, a lot of people fuck with me, like, niggas and girls. Like, they fuck with my shit. So, like, I don't got to change. Like, what the fuck is going on? So you're saying that the person that you are through your music, and the person that people see, that's who you are all the time? Yeah, I mean, like, yeah, I'm cool all the time. Like, what the fuck? Like, all these... What I do, but I don't got to do all the extra shit. Like, the dancing, and wearing two pieces. You can have your background dancers for that. I don't know about background dancers. Like, I'll be so specific on what I want. Like, I just feel like a lot of shit be head ass, and I do not want to do it, like... But a lot of times when you sign up... Like, the dance routines on stage, I feel like I'm not doing it. What? Can you dance? I'm not finna dance, like... You don't dance. I'm not finna do all the dancing. Money is right. I promise you, they put them... Yeah, because you said you signed for a million, and a lot of times if the label is spending all that money, they're gonna tell you what they want you to do. For that meal ticket? For the meal ticket? No, for the... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She gonna get out there and dance. We don't talk about something about that, but... I don't know. You don't know if you can do it. So tell me about Lil Boy, and how did you end up doing that by yourself? Um, damn. I don't even remember recording Lil Boy. I think I was in L.A. I was up all night with this girl, Ladi Luna. She a producer. So I was just at their house. They got a narco house in L.A. And I was just chilling at their house all night. So I just recorded this. I was mad. I don't know what I was mad about. Something like, I was just talking shit like, uh, niggas be gay, like, just talking shit, like... I was mad. So I had made a song, put it on Instagram, whatever. So yeah, I shot a video. So... And so when you done it, how comfortable did you feel? Like, that's what you're about to do. That was my hardest song to record. And that is the shortest song ever. Because that was, like, one of... Like, not the first song I recorded by myself. That was, like, the fifth song I recorded by myself. And it was halfway decent. So I was like, shit, I'm going to put this whole ad. Like, this first thing I did by myself, that was good. But now it would be so easier for me to record by myself. Like... You like it better this way. Really? So will you guys ever get back together, your mom? Yeah, we got music together. We got music. We didn't drop together. Uh, she be sending me songs. I'd be doing verses to them. I just, uh, got to drop my own stuff first. Yeah. Is she in Atlanta or where she at? Nah, she live here. Okay. I seen her on Off The Poets. I said, maybe she moved to Atlanta. I don't be knowing her. But no, um, you guys got a great chemistry, too, though. Mm-hmm. You know, I'm going to tell you something, man. For you to even do what you guys have done, you should be very proud of yourself. Because some people will never be able to do it. Some people will never get a deal. Even niggas out here is trash. No. Some of them do it. So I want to know. So, you know, we were talking earlier and you said you're shy. And everybody is saying how shy you are. How, what do you do with that shyness if you have to go on stage and perform in front of everybody? Uh, I'd be shy before I do that. Before I get on stage or whatever. But then, like, you know, just be turning up on stage. Like, you listen to music in the choir type sheet, so it'd be different. But, like, when I got to talk, I'd be nervous. Nervous? Yes. Hmm. Because you don't ever, um, record in front of your friends? No. All right. So what's the difference with that compared to when you go on stage? The song got already done. They don't got it. They don't got to hear me. They don't got to hear me trying to, uh, like, mess it up and having to redo it. Would you be punching it? Yeah, I'm punching it. Okay. But these are your friends. These are people who accept you for who you are. They love you regardless. I know. But, like, that's how I learn to record. I'd be hearing them record and they'd be punching it. That's how I learn that shit. I'd be listening to them. So then, when I go record by myself, I'd be, like, punching it and think about it. I'd be seeing what they do. But recently I had learned to record myself. So now I'd be way more comfortable by just recording myself. Because the good thing about having people around you when you're doing certain things, yes, you mess up. But these are all the people who are in the industry who can also help you and tell you, you know, what, try this, don't do this. You know what I mean? So you can get better. If they can't see what you're doing, a lot of times you can't, you know, get that critique. Yeah. Yeah. I'll get used to it one day. Who would you like to work with? I mean, if you could pick anybody. Damn. Anybody. Anybody. Anybody. Young boy. Oh, you want to work with that nigga right there? I don't want to work with that young boy. Young boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That nigga locked up right now. Yes. Yeah, he can't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You go, stop playing. Yeah, shout that out. Yeah. But you're a third-nigger though. That's what's up. I've been there. I get it, you know. So, young boy, that nigga is got, really he might have, he number one right now, locked up. Yeah. That nigga fly. I don't, I think it was, it was saying it was like, only three other people to do that while it was incarcerated. That's what, you know what I mean? Yeah. That song is hard. It's fun. Yeah. Yeah. The whole project, man. Things, hey, man, listen, man, time has changed. So, let me know about Texas, man. What was that Texas thing about with you and Marley? The song, Texas. That's the song. We have recorded that video when we had our album release party. Okay. So, where we record that? Paramount, you know what Paramount is? Yeah. Paramount Studios? Mm-hmm. We record that in Paramount. I don't really remember recording that. I remember we was working on our album though. Yeah. And we just had shot the video because we had had a release party and everybody was there and we had shot the video. How hard was it being in the industry? Because I've had a lot of girls on this show. That's right. Yeah. And the biggest thing they say when they're trying to, you know, they have to, they go through so much trying to do their music with the way it is in the studio. I'm not playing. This is what they're telling me. So, how hard, have you had those experiences where it was like tough to even deal with just being in the industry? Mm-hmm. I want to say, go on and tell it. I want to say it was tough because like the easy part is like I need my hair done. I need my makeup done. Yeah. Like I need a studio session, you know what I mean? But the hard part is like I'm trying to drop some music. Like can I shoot a video? Like, all right. Yeah. So, I'm talking about Forrest Giles coming on to you too. Let's just go and be real. Yeah. You can't get no damn work going and these niggas are all in your... And it'd be the old me. It'd be the old me. It'd be the old me. It'd be the old me. Yeah. And like work at the label, like just being weird. Yeah. I'd be like really like... They make it seem like you can't get nowhere unless you talk to them. Yeah. But I'm hard on anybody. Like you're not going to do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You still. Okay. She can stand up for herself. That's what you're trying to say. It's coming out. Where? Yeah. Yeah, you're dead. He's black. My momma taught me to see. No, no. That niggas in you. I ain't going to play with it now. Did you say your momma go hard? Yeah. Momma... I mean... I mean... She cool too. No momma will cool like... She white... Me and momma's way different but... Aight. Already. I love momma. Like she cool, she... So do you think that... Let me ask you this top three artist of all time. Did or like... Ann & John runt. Oh you already done watched the show? She like, oh okay. Like she really got it. No I just... So I got YB number one, YB, Polo G number two. Okay. And my number three, number three always the hardest for me though. Everybody do that when they come on here. Number three. Can I have four? No. No. It's the top three artists of all time. Okay, what is the number three? Hey, we gotta do that one, man. I definitely, I definitely, y'all didn't ever do nothing together though for the music, did you? No, but we have a song, we did, I did a song like one of my first songs with them. It's like Barrio, Flip, Wadi, Dolo, me and Molly. Man. They never dropped. That's the only thing we ever did. But y'all got it. I don't. I don't think I got it. I don't think I got it. I was 17. Yeah, I was young, I was the kid, but I could probably find that. I could probably find that. Yeah, but that's a dope experience that now you would really wish to have and keep for a long time. Yeah, I wish, I was too shy to ever, you know, but how you think that song came out? What song? The one that you did together as a group. 17. 17. You said that you were young in the business back then. I think I was 16 when I recorded that song, but you know, it's like, we record it like you'd be late, even if that whole song, like I didn't know that whole song, I was late, you know, I fucked with that over. Probably if I listened to that her now, I'd be like, ooh, I said I'm bad. Cause when I listened to my old songs, my voice so loud, squeaky, like. Yeah. So if you could go back and talk to the 15 year old you, what would you say for us to help her to understand what she was about to face? What would you say? Nothing. You wouldn't tell her nothing? Damn, no advice, nothing? Everything. You posted the advisor at least, right? Everything that I done, then through, and went through, baby. And you ain't gonna tell her nothing to prepare. You just gonna say go for it. What type of person are you? You ain't gonna be like. Maybe like go to school or something. That's what you're talking about. You gotta tell her to go to school. Is school important? Be honest. Not to me. School, not important to me, like I never needed school, you know, like I didn't graduate school, like, but I would want my daughter to graduate school. Why? Who wanna tell somebody they don't got no college, I mean no high school degree, like, that shouldn't. Yeah, but, well, you know, I'm gonna be honest with you, it's all about what your destiny is, how you fulfill it. I think you can do anything you wanna do, period. Yeah. I mean your mind gotta be strong. Yeah, when I was in school, I was so busy, like my, when I was in like 11th grade, I was so busy, like I was always going out of town, like I could not go to school. So one day I was like, I'm gonna go to school, like, so I started going to school, and they like, oh, you don't go here no more. So I was like, shit, fuck you, like I'm not going to school no more, like, fuck the school, what's going on? So when you, so do you think you ever go get like your GDs? No, no, no. You ain't in trigger? No, I don't need it. Because you know how you say you'd love for your daughter to finish school, cause I know some moms will be like, you know, if I'm going to tell her to go to school, I need to at least have my GD as well. No, she gonna listen to me. She not gonna have a choice to go to school. I got daughters, man. That's bull crap. She not gonna listen to you. No, I'm saying she's not gonna listen to you. She's not gonna have no choice, like me. You can say what you want to say. She might go up into a point, but yeah, she gonna, yeah. When she get older, yeah, she gonna get out. Did you listen to your mom with everything? Did I listen to her? Hell no. No, I didn't, but that was me. That was the same. My mama wasn't as hard as me as I'm gonna be on her. You don't, man. I'm not gonna be too hard on her. You don't know how hard she gonna be with all the stuff she sees. Stop playing, man. But she not gonna handle me. No, she gonna handle you. She's not gonna handle me. I'm just gonna be an easy job. I already know it. Dude, it ain't be hard, like we're, you know what I'm saying? No, I already know what I'm gonna do. She not gonna be hard on me. Bro, she see you, she you. She gonna come at you. When she's my age, when she get 16, like we're fist fighting if you play with me. No, no, she's not gonna fight you. You're gonna get real calm and collective and you probably gonna have another child who's gonna also, whatever. You don't want no more. Whatever. One and done. Let me tell you something. People say a lot. Okay, I love to say anything. Y'all hold me to this. I know a girl that's been 10,000 others. I've never had a kid in my life. I promise you gonna have a kid. I promise I won't. You crazy, you young. That's no way. Okay, do you think she gonna, she ain't never having no more kid? She already know I've been told, we talk about this all the time. You better be getting fixed or something. Nigga, y'all gonna slip up or something. You know, I asked about that, but you, you can't have a kid because I'm too young. Because you're not married. I'm not married yet. You had to have three babies. I agree with the white folks on that one. Yeah, they right on that one. You don't need to be, yeah, yeah. You still young. We gotta be productive. Nigga, we need soldiers. Nigga, you ain't even had no little boy. Nigga, stop playing. I'm not having no kids. So where does little Brooke see herself in the next two years? Well, I'm gonna be rich as fuck. We gonna talk dancing, this is in richest blood. How you gonna get to that money with the music? With a lot of shit. That's cause the brand is important, right? So music, is people really making money in music like that? Let's be real. I'm coming from a real place. I know some people make money from music. Okay, all right. And they, regular, regular. I think about it like the brand, you know what I'm saying? Like the whole brand, not just the music itself, but the whole entire brand. I think all of it is ways to make money. So I think the whole thing matters. But just music, I don't know. Yeah, not. Cause 4,000, listen, listen, a million streams is $4,000 on Apple, isn't it? On Apple. I don't know. That's a lot, nigga. That's a lot. You understand what I'm saying? But that's a little money. That ain't a lot. Yeah. I'm just telling you, go real fast cause you gotta keep marketing yourself, right? Yeah. But you do get that money forever, though. But even though it gets smaller and smaller and smaller, you still get the money. So it's somewhat residual. So I get it, but. It's still hell, but you always gotta do more. You gotta brand. You gotta look at your brand, your whole entire brand. You know what I'm saying? So next song, where's the video shoot gonna be at? What you doing? When are you gonna put something out, man? I'm looking at your Instagram and all that. I really don't just be seeing the music dropping like that. Where is the music at, lil' Brooke? You ain't seen me drop a little clip on my. I seen it? But I'm just saying, that ain't enough. We hungry out here, we gotta eat. That's gonna be the first video I shoot. Okay. When is it going down? Everybody on it. You better put it together. That's why I wanted you on the show. I hit the cameraman being yesterday. So I told him I'm gonna find today and we gonna do that. I definitely hit you up because I was like, Oh, she done quit. This was my perfect opportunity to get up in there. Everybody asked me, do you still rap? Do you still rap? I really be offended, but like I can't be offended cause I really ain't dead yet. Ain't no work. So I'm looking. That can make you push harder. But even though I ain't drop no music, like I get money off features, like money off features and they don't even be dropping a song. Really? Like I get money off features. Did I know we can still go? Like I said, if you get to be that independent person you talking about and then you be like, damn I need somebody that really can rock with me that ain't gonna bother me. Gonna let me, ain't gonna be dancing all in my videos. Oh God. Gonna let me do my thing. That's me. You know what I'm saying? I'm just, I really, I've been pulling up in some places and talking to some people and I'm good with this. I just been nervous about it cause I don't trust y'all cause you niggas gonna run off with the bag. Who gonna run off? I'm not a jakey. What you think? So, hey, so, hey man, we love you man. We appreciate you for coming on the show, man. Appreciate it. So when you, when you dropped that project you gonna come back. You gonna be late next time either. You gonna come back right? Yeah, I'm gonna be on time. I know it. You coming back to Boss Talk, don't you? Yeah, I'm gonna come back. Don't play. I'm gonna come back for sure. Say man, hey, we appreciate you. We love you. I ain't, and it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. And we out.