 It can feel quite overwhelming trying to tackle the global challenges in the world. I don't think we want to look at leadership within the context of sustainability as an individual. We can't afford that. This is a multi-stakeholder's effort that is necessary. We are there between ethics, science, and investors. We understand these two words, and that's where I think roles like mine play a massive role in advancing the sustainability agenda for a macro level. I'd also say be patient, persevere. And I think I moved from idealism to what I call now pragmatic idealism.