 I believe all of you are techies, so who am I? So basically I'm an electronics developer. I think that around with firmware and hardware is basically, for both professionally I do it for work and also for my own curiosity. So particularly I do embedded software and hardware for something and then I'm also open source contributor to various projects. But these are years I've concentrated on my work on several articles. So that's the area I'm focusing on working and also open source work. So just before I go into the talk, how many of you know what is R-TOS? Real-Time Operating System. So quite a number of you, so I can cool. How many of you know Zephyr R-TOS particularly? So I just see two hands, so which is good. I can just give a very quick brief of what Zephyr R-TOS is about. So Zephyr R-TOS is a real-time operating system just like any other R-TOS, but it has added some new features. It's kind of like a leading nature, new R-TOS open source in nature. And these are the areas I think everyone of us will agree where real-time operating system will go on. Like you can see industrial IOP and asset tracking, all this area. And I think we have gone through the era that you know between this, if you talk about the many years ago, people will be talking about R-TOS or bare metal. R-TOS or bare metal, like some people will be argue I will do bare metal. But I think today many of us agree that any embedded system or mostly will be running some form of R-TOS regardless of whatever application it is. So that's where I set the definition. So where Zephyr R-TOS lies basically? So Zephyr R-TOS is basically, they have two few points, the main points that they are, they target. One is it has to be small so that it can run on any target. Anything with less than 8KB flash, 5KB RAM, should able to run Zephyr on a very minimum, at least a minimum. And then yet you want to be more powerful. You just don't want to offer only just like other R-TOS just a scheduler and so on. It's very boring or it's very hard. So you have to be scalable. You want to handle SMB, multi-processed handling and all these things. So that's another area. And then you also want to be flexible. The kernel, basically the kernel supports more than 450 nodes, multiple architectures and so forth. And I think big area that we talk about R-TOS and IoT you want to go to the internet. So if you want to go to internet, you want to make sure your code is at least secure in nature. It has some vulnerability check and oversauce in nature I think. So this area basically is Zephyr Rouse. So on a high level, if you look on the right, you'll see on the box what Zephyr offers on the box. It offers a third party library all the way up to the hunt so that you can integrate when the hunt into your Zephyr and able to use Zephyr and X-Grid. And where Zephyr particularly fits or it's a unique proposition is that wherever Linux doesn't fit, basically Linux might not fit on a MC because Linux is big, but Zephyr can fit in there. And it uses a lot of philosophy or strategy being used in Linux into Zephyr. So that's why I think people started to get interest and started to work on. And it is highly portable and secure like what we talk of. Just like Linux, you can take a Linux kernel, run on ARM, you can run on every spike and all sorts of things, both are supported. The same things are here. Particularly if you've been working on Linux kernel, there's something called Device 3 A config to do all these magic behind it. So that's what's been happening. What we call a MCU world, et cetera. So I think I'll just give a very brief introduction to what Zephyr is all about. Now particularly about this topic is why Zephyr and RISC-5? What Zephyr are uniquely offered for RISC-5 or how the support is lying and so forth. So the first point is both are open source in nature. Anybody that's supporting RISC-5, I think inherently in their mind is like they want to be open source, like the Silicon is already open source. Whatever things, the ISC is open source and you don't want to run a closed source software on a open source Silicon or ISC basically. So that's I think a good combo. And then the current state of Zephyr is that all common ISC that RISC-5 supports is already there. So I think that the standard thing is, if you look at the privilege set, there's this RVM32IMAC, the basic instruction set is please support it. And there are also some at once extensions are already supported also. So basically you can say pretty good, at least ISC level support architecturally, it's quite good. And you may ask what about some of the standards that RISC-5 already set? Like we have PILIC, the interrupt controller for the process basically. So that is PILIC is a standard interrupt controller by the RISC-5 calculation. And then it's also supported. There's a driver also. And also for machine timer. So all your ticks in RISC-5, you handle it using something called ceiling. So ceiling to also the driver is supported. And the fourth point is because of RISC-5 is so modular and all the like modular in nature, you want your software to be modular also. So that's where I lie down the point, Zephyr is actually modular. So it's a very nice fit. So this is a board I did some voting. Basically the votes that we're going to be hands on. So I just want to give you an idea what really been happening behind the scene at a high level. So basically, we say that this is a SOC RISC-532 and PILIC supplier. And we are just handling all the instruction that it supports so that the ISA level knows what are the instructions are supported. And the entire kernel of basically the Zephyr ecosystem knows what are the ISAs being supported based on the SOC. So you can see, I'm just telling RISC-5, ISA, IE, F, A, this process supports. So, and then when I do that, because Zephyr is so modular in nature and the build system is in build, C make can start the reading on this notification file. So it started going, okay, if ISA external A is supported, when you build, pass this A, A flag to the compiler basically. So you don't have to configure all this thing. It's all automated in nature. And then one more, just for another example, like any of you know K-532, if you enable like the prefix FPU, then the Zephyr know, okay, if I enable FPU, then I need to give the, IE or DE or FPU or whatever it is. You know, this is all passing to the compiler basically. So it doesn't stop there, the architecture level code. So this is one example where the same configuration is pulled into my source code basically. So what you see here is if defined config, RISC-5, ISA, R-32, E instruction is enabled. It does a different kind of code. You can see it is accessing a register differently. If it's not, I don't know, it's a certain friendly. So all these things are, naturally it's on the ecosystem basically, okay. So this slide basically, you know, I thank Affinix to, you know, give us opportunity, they provided us a FPGA and RISC-544 to basically play around. So, you know, just give a quick introduction. So, you know, it's a more efficient FPGA and you know, it's time to success. You want you to get your, you know, mobile source, RISC-5, ISA, easily added into FPGA and, you know, turning to kind of RISC-544 and start working on it. And what is so unique is, they already have kind of like a manager. So you can easily configure whatever peripherals you need, you know, together with RISC-5 and you just generate it. The RTL is generated for you. And the RTL can be loaded into your FPGA and you can turn it to, you know, from FPGA, it becomes basically RISC-544. Okay, this is some, I think some important point is it's a RISC-5, all of us know open source, open source scalable and all these things. But what, Affinix offer in side to side, there's all these things like, you know, what I mentioned earlier, similarly. So, any question before we jump into the, to the workshop? So, if no question, we will jump into the workshop session. So before we jump into the workshop session, I would like to tell what exactly the some high level process going on in this workshop. So, due to time constraint, we have loaded a bit stream on your board. We have generated the RTL and we have loaded the bit stream inside it. So basically when you turn on your FPGA, it just acts as a general MCU basically. Pretty clear. So what we're gonna do today is we have a cloud machine for you. You have a login ID and password and all this thing. You can log into that and start doing a hands-on build session. You know, like how we do in software, hello world, you want to, you know, be the big key session and see, get your hand around with cyber on, you know, live session. So that's what today's, you know, I mean a challenge of all of us because I think inherently when you talk about embedded system and things like that, people will tell you to install, chain, set up all the things even at your home before you come to the workshop. For what we are challenging ourselves and we want you to join together as today, do it, hands-on, live on cloud and easily install and see. So, we have three prerequisites now. So basically first thing is you need to download the workshop guide so that you can follow the guide later on. So I hope you can see the link. It's a short link. If you put the link, you'll get a period list. Yeah, if you guys need some time to type it, you can take a picture. It's a good idea. Okay. And then the second thing is to check is you need these three items with you. I think you should have because we have already pre-put on your table. Then the third thing is you need to have the credential. All of you have credentials? Just to ensure you're on the hot spot, some of them also get in job. So if you have a hot spot, please answer it off the right place. Okay, you are pretty good. How long more? It's probably two weeks. I don't think it's a hot spot. I heard that you'll be at Switi-Eva. Yeah, one week. So, I think a lot of you can turn on your board and all these things. Just make sure that you have to switch on the board actually, there is a small tech can switch if you turn it on you would have a lights on it. Just make sure that you have the LED something comes up so that your board is powered and you use this one. So, everyone got the credentials basically? So, I guess everyone got the credentials. So, may I get a raise of hand who is using windows and who is using windows? Okay, there are some hands. Anybody using Linux here to try the hands off? Okay, cool. Okay, cool. Mac is unfortunately not, yeah, it's Mac. So, you know, for now, you know. So, okay, the guy covered both but something to take note is if you have windows you have to do this thing what we have provided on windows type you need to install this Zadik so that you can install this particular driver actually. So, you just have to follow this guide, you know you go through all these interfaces but whichever you see titanium TI-60, you just have to replace it with this big USB drive. And next is I think I believe all of you is trying to log into the labs. So, I guess all good, right? So, good. So, you can just launch the dashboard for now. So, that you get this page and under the my labs you can just expand it. You'll see something about machine labs. Okay. And then once you click the machine labs you'll find something called RTOS lab for Cypher. Okay, another status check. May I know how many of you already come to this point where you can see the RTOS lab for Cypher? Okay, so let's give some time probably. So, you just have to go to my labs and go to machine labs. And the RTOS lab for Cypher. So, you just go to the client. Okay, RTOS lab for Cypher. Okay. So, there's something back on here. At least it's not the USB drive. Is that the thing? Go to the one. So, I think I heard a lot of you using Mac. No worries. You're using Mac. You can't flash the mode, but at least you get the experience how to get the binary at least on Cypher. So, anybody that already got until this time you can click the point so that the machine, you know, on Linux, content has spawned up for you, pre-configured toolchain, Cypher, and everything is in there. So, basically when you deploy it's running on a cloud of the machine. So, content is spawning up with all the, you know, all the tool chains and like. So, once you have put the deployed basically just like turning on your machine, the content just comes up. And after like a minute or so, you know, it takes like the page to reload. Once the page is reloaded, you can find on the right hand side something called code. When you click on code, it will prompt you to something like if you want to launch something like this. And when you click launch code ID, it might even ask you whether you want to enable pop-up because, you know, it wants to open up another tab basically. And it will ask you password. So, where do you find the password is you go to your dashboard previously. You'll find password and the password is on the last field something called code server password. And you'll see something like a password viewer on the right icon. You press that to see the password and it should copy the password also. You can copy the password if it doesn't. So, if the password is copied and you just click OK. You should get a full-blown VS code like anybody familiar with VS code. It just comes up on your browser. You'll see some people already got to the point on their own. They have to enable code. So, I think most of you is at the point where VS code is up spawn up. You can see like ID is there. It's a good sign. So, the next step is you need to, you know, any ID you work on, you open up. It's just ID. You want to go to your project folder. So, we have set up the zapper project folder, you know, it will be something called a fitting cypher. And then you need to put a slash cypher again. That's where the cypher, you can see on the top, you know, just after the username you add as a slash and then any cypher slash cypher and then click OK again. And the project will be opened up with ID. To go to the program, you have to buy it on the cypher. Which program you want to know? It's already opened. Oh, you opened up. You have to go to the project folder. I think most of you now is on the appendix cypher slash cypher. So, it should be good. So, like, you know, you need basically a terminal to, you know, to interact with Cypher basically. So, to do that, now you have to go to the same cypher and go to terminal and click new terminal. And you get a terminal on the bottom. This is just some IDE guy basically for now. So, the thing is now we need to get the IDE just comes up for the next step. OK, so this is your generic Linux kind of batch, you know, batch terminal. Like any of you work with Linux, you know, on the LSMV CD, all this stuff just works or pops. So, now if you go to the, basically the guide we have provided, the one on the border is a command to do that. But let me just explain what this command is doing. VES is a helper to a build for Cypher. So, whatever you want to interact with Cypher kernel, you need to use VES. It's like a front-end of the kernel. And Ivan P, which is a pristine, so that you want to clean the build every time you do some build. So, that's what I give by dash P, Ivan P and for VES. And dash P stands for both. What both you want Cypher to build or work with. And the work that currently we are working on is called Titanium TI6KF85. And then the project that we want to build. So, one of the cool things about Cypher is also the sample is part of the kernel both. So, you know, you got the sample basic build key there. And all you have to do is click enter. And to click enter, the firmware will be built and you know, it will happen in a certain folder that I'll tell you later. That's right. So, I do see some people already got the info, like how much RAM it is using and all this information. So, that means the build is done and your battery is ready. Let's just get more people before we go to the next step. I don't know if you can see this. This is my model. There's a platform, a Chinese platform. You can see it. This is the main platform. Every time you can get it, you can have it. You can have it. You can have it. You can have it. Yes. You can have it. You can have it. You can have it. So, where is the poster? Is it? Is it called? Yes. Where is it? Why is it? Ah, it's actually given a poster. That's right. we say that the user is going to be there. Yeah, it's going to be a bit hard. And then I'm going to ask for a break. Yeah, but it's the last thing I'm going to ask for. You're going to get your user. OK. So you're going to take a look at it. It's all over the phone. And then you're going to play. You're going to play S3. S3 is going to be on the user's screen. You're going to go on. And then you're going to go back. So, I guess most of you got up to the point you got the will done that you see some stats how much RAM it is using and all. So, the next step is actually to download the binary. So, the binary is inside a build if you look for build folder or directory and then you go to a folder called build slash a cypher slash a cypher bin. So, you download the cypher bin. So, that is your big key or firmware that you are your popular player is. So, and then to download you just have to go to the file right click and click download. Just make sure that you don't save it in a place that you can locate easily later because we have to move these files around a little bit later in your local machine. The reason is you are going to have access to your board. So, we do all the hard work and all the high D complex and configuration work on the cloud that we take the binary file we bring it to your local computer and we flash it to the board. So, somebody actually got the big key up and running what do you want you have to write it and download it. How do you do it? Okay. So, that is basically on your local computer now it's on your download board or something. So, keep the file for now. So, that is where the next step are coming. So, let me check on few people. So, how many of you got it like a race up and down? Okay. Okay. Cool. So, now this is the thing we need to this is extra step for Linux only you have to do a bit pool currently because we actually just need a live push on rule basically we missed the rule earlier. So, you do a bit pool now you will get a new file coming into the thing on your hyper directory the directory you are the terminal just give a bit pool. Yeah, get good. Once you get good this is only for Linux. Okay. Windows is sorted out because you've done this. No, so this step is to access on your Linux machine to access your board. So, this is like a driver kind of. Okay. Not ready. So, let me just explain the step one by one. So, we going to download this thing called Linux.zip in a folder called flashing and you need to bring to your local computer to get the correct latest file you need to do bit pool because the file that in the container is old file it doesn't have one of the rules. So, you know, you'd have ADM, you'd have basically. So, there is a you'd have script inside basically. Okay. So, just do a bit pool and download the latest Linux.zip. For Windows you can go ahead and download Windows. No changes. Yeah, pretty cool. So, once you download it, you extract the Linux.zip you will find you can open up on your terminal the current directory and you do a pseudo about the slash USB drive of the message and what it will do is it will not figure out your things to access the board on your local computer. Like I mentioned earlier, basically, you know, we do the build on the cloud but we want to install to the target FPGA board using your local machine. So, you do pseudo about slash USB drive run the script from the folder you extracted in because that's how the parts are configured in the script. So, that'll do the work basically. So, for those who have already configured on Linux USB drive and all these things, we can go to the next step. So, the next step is actually installing the firmware basically. So, for Windows you can just double click the flash, you'll see something called flash. It's basically a batch of files or whatever it is to run the script. You just double click if your board is connected and if your blinky file is on the same directory as where you downloaded the zip where you extracted it, it will just load the blinky on your board and your board will start on the other hand on the Linux, you need to open up a terminal and do how you run a script dot slash a flash dot s h. So, let's give time for this and let's see how many of you, you know, get blinky out. So, I see another board is blinking also. When you're on the Linux, it should be, it should be up. Okay, cool. So, I think some of you got the blinking light. So, basically that means, you know, you built something using something like a you've got the binary, you've got your own computer and you're able to flash it. So, those that you are, those that are already done, you want to go a little bit further up just want to see how Shell works. You can actually go to the blink folder, the same basic blinky folder. On the project.com, you can enable something called config for Shell equal to Y. Any of you work with Linux, it's very convenient. And Shell will be up and technically you can connect to the platform of your laptop and interact with the board. Like, I think this is particularly my favorite thing about Cypher is that, you know, you get a shell of the books. I, you know, it's pretty nice. You get like a shell of the vision on our books, please. You can enable that. No, no. Okay. Okay. Okay. Those of you who want to try the shell, you can see my configuration file. So you basically go to samples basic blinky project.com. You just enable config.underscore shell equal to yes. And you do the ebit again. You get a new binary and you install on your code. If you have a serial kind of code access, like on Linux, I use the mini-comp. You could interact with the board using a shell. So the one point below here is this is something very unique about Cypher also. You just enable something here. The build system knows about it. It builds some new source code, some source of code, and it just injects inside your thing. And you get a new application. So this is, I think, a pretty cool drive for something like a micro. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Are you sure? Next to F, I'm a speaker during the study, the 2.30 pm. So, I think to wrap up a little bit, to wrap up, it says that most of you that go to court able to blink, able to mill and you know have an hands-on session on Zyphus because I know you can go and learn all this thing but having a hands-on session is always good you know oh this is how it works you have you put your time here in like one hour time you did a brilliant blink so when you go back home you know you can explore more at once things. So, any question we can open for question also like if anybody have any question go bring any type or are you interested to contribute with the journal or whatever it is and have a good chat. So, I hope all of you got some insights especially in traffic cycle and I'm so glad to see you know this was our challenge also like it was the first time we push FPGA, we push cycle and we push it line basically like on cloud and all these things. So, I'm happy to see it's blinking I hope you are happy also. I wrap up my session here and thank you so much for attending this particular workshop. Thank you. Thank you so much. So, thank you very much. Please one more time round of applause for our speakers Manoj Kumar. So, thank you one more time. Thank you. So, we get to keep the box right? That you have to ask. If you touch it you keep it right? The box is there. The box, can we have it? Okay, anyways, so let's get the next one. Thank you very much. Is there any questions anybody or you have already asked all the questions you need to ask? No, yes. So, how much are these boards right? This is a full set with a panel display. For this one? So, it's about $300 I think for itself in GGK. So, go for a kit for more than all the life. $360 or $300? Yes, $200. You as well? Really? So, one more thing is if anybody, you know, want to tick around with labs or whatever, they can't be still active for 10 days. So, if you need any information, you can find my email and ask us over time. So, also you could take my email. I have basically built labs. I did it during COVID and now like over 5000 students are using it for different purposes. Me and Manoj have contributed recently and we made this effort possible. And we are continuously adding a lot of laboratories. So, we are trying to make something like AWS but at a very low cost. So, you can do everything online. You can host websites, you can write any number of data pieces. We can register our services. If you are not checked in, just go to the services. You can see MySQL, MongoDB, Redis, Rabbitem, we got all open source. So, it's all managed just like how AWS does, but on your own. So, if you have any doubts using labs or if you need it for your personal use, you may contact NEOGEN or we can set up a phone for you. But this, they will still have to for 10 days. So, you could take one username and password and you know, play with it. So, thank you all so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So, you are helping. Thank you very much for coming here and coming to my fissure. It is, it has been three years since COVID-19. It is an Australian and offline event of the 2020 Turkish Spring. Also, we are the leading Japanese and the Raspberry Pi committee. I'm helping Raspberry Pi foundation and Raspberry Pi training to help in their business in Japan and more helping on the engineering business. Now, looking for the good case in the Asia area, Taiwan, China. I'm taking an x-ray and exploring 120, with my clusters to catch up on the 3D and the outfits. It is the good case. I have talked in the person from India. Before I talk to you, I'll talk to you today. You've seen the press release on the foundation and strong relationship for the semiconductor. I can't tell you the details, but I would like to talk to you briefly. The collaboration is on the focus on the Raspberry Pi camera solutions. Even the Raspberry Pi camera solutions are made by Sony. They are used by Sony chip and Sony solutions. All of them are made by Sony. I'll go into the next stage to use the camera to recognize something for AI. Especially looking into the Sony cameras and running on Raspberry Pi. It is a tuning app for Raspberry Pi things. It is easy to develop an AI solution for developers. The Raspberry Pi and Raspberry Pi now release many more camera solutions. There is a global camera to catch up to the movie for something. It is now a collaboration stage to catch up something. The next stage is to recognize something with Raspberry Pi 2 and analyze with AI. This is the next stage to the Sony collaboration with Raspberry Pi. I will keep in touch with my Twitter on the next step. I think it is a game change. The AI solution is not too strong for Raspberry Pi. It is a chips off stage. But now on the Raspberry Pi and the collaboration with the camera 2 and competing with the chips off. It is a game change. I am waiting for that. It is a game change to the next stage for the Raspberry Pi. Some of you know that AI solutions are being accessed. They are tuning up for a video GPU. It represents the process that we expected with TensorFlow. They are originally using a simple programming. They use the original SDK to develop it. It is container-based. This is the first thing that they expected. There are many new use cases. For example, they are convenience stores to be complex customers. They are also using zoo recognizing animals. Animals and animals activities. It is very useful for that. It is another solution for the Raspberry Pi purpose. They focus on the camera itself. They are tuning on the GPUs to recognize faster with AI. It can be developed with AI solutions. I will see other information. I will show you how to build something with AI solutions. It is a Raspberry Pi collaboration. I will show you how to explore Raspberry Pi website. You can see the website. You can see the whole industry website. Raspberry Pi focuses on the industry and the enterprise users. Raspberry Pi also focuses on children. They have a Raspberry Pi project. They write code to children. They also have online courses for teachers to teach code to the kids. They have been building something called a project. They are teaching teachers to teach the students to hold kids' education. Raspberry Pi is an ocean magazine. They mainly use it. They also have articles to meet the makers. I checked the map. My committee members like the issue. There are more people. There are people who have checked the writing of the project. I have a picture of the project. It is made by Taiman. It is a computer module for inside. It is very useful for hardware. If you have any good projects, please let me know. I am looking for good cases. Some of you have read the map. They also have articles for the agent and the use cases. If you have any good projects, please let me know. I am looking for projects for Raspberry Pi. 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You can see on the website. You can see on the website. So finally, let me briefly introduce our version of this work. It is very important to make open-killing accessible and available to as many people as possible. Since we released the first open-killing version 0.7 on July 2022, we have updated all version versions, each of which makes the previous parts and adds some new features. For example, in version 0.7, we supported VDAN and adapted open-killing cell development software. In version 0.7.8, we improved the system stability in 0.9. In 0.9.8, we provided the latest Ukraine desktop environment. So our goal is to make open-killing on this type of robust desktop operating system that can be used by a wide range of users from desktop users and developers to researchers and artists. Now, open-killing can run on five-way cell platform including HEDAO-Match, version 0.1 and version 0.2 to HEDAO and also the QB. So the total number of downloads for all versions have reached 15,000 in under a year, from July of last year to now. We hope to see an increasing number of research users in the future. Now, I'm very excited to introduce Roma, the world's first laptop that comes with open-killing pre-installed. We have equipped the system with basic application software and development guidance to provide great use experiments for experienced and users. So let's please welcome Mr. Liang Yun-Yin, the founder and CEO of X-Calibant, who will introduce the Roma laptop to us. Hi, everyone. Thank you so much for the introduction of open-killing stuff and for itself. And I'll tell you the story of why I started making the first laptop of my life. I run a software company called X-Calibant. We used to make compilers based on Open64. And we decided to make a laptop and to try to get it mass produced from a software guy like me and see how hard it is. It's quite hard. And this is the reason. The reason is that we want to have an experienced 886 that we can carry around and play with it. And we can come out of this cycle straight away. We don't need close compiling. A lot of open source is not supported on close compiling. And I want to try the latest RISPY SOC 1299. See how many problems in manufacturing and especially mass production. I met a lot of people especially in 2002, the whole COVID thing in China. And this is the whole from Mark, RISPY International. If we can get 850 now, we can access the software ecosystem. OpenKidding and all libraries and so on and so forth. And look at our laptop. This laptop is the thing is I can find and do. And we'll try it hard. Try everything hard. And it will support now, OpenKidding and possible Chrome OS in the future. And we make some speciality. For example, we scan a lot of it. Try it in the cycle and stuff. And make it in the box and like the stand. And we make a very special code. Let's get rid of the windows. And yeah, you will see the window can show me here. So let's see whether we can see real. Let's click on. Click on. I don't know if you can see. Anyway, you can see this is real RISPY things and running on. It's not joking. So let's see the R key, see whether it works. R key for work and browser work. It takes a while to hold up. So you can see it's very buggy, very slow. But the point is that why we have to make the first step. Just 19 years ago, when ARM has the first assistive bobeck. It follows that now. This is the first 12-inch assistive bobeck SOC. And it's not. In my experience, I put the first ARM assistive bobeck on Android for Huawei. So I don't know what the paintbook thinks. I think now RISPY assistive bobeck with that kind of performance is far better than our previous one. And we look forward to another 10 years. And RISPY will go beyond much quicker than now. That's all. You can see the browser is here and it's very slow, very buggy. And we get better. And especially in May, we have a mesh-produced version. So a lot more stable. The software looks better. So if you look at now, this year, we tried 12 nanometer. You will see that we might have a mesh-produced problem. Hopefully it might not be going through the stress testing, heat testing or stuff, but the 22 nanometers fine, perfectly fine. And we will look forward to the end of the year. We support 64 core, very thick laptop coming out. You will be able to develop a carrier run and with a big factory. And you can turn on and off all the cores, whatever you like. But at the end, we look forward to Jim Keeler to roll out a very big, fat IP coming out and bobe 7 nanometers. So we look forward to the older trend. Of course. And we're going to cooperate with open-killing. We have a lot of programs on the user, the community program. So we are going to do some report for all the people contributing to Killing and our hardware products. And these are the people things. I use the thing is laptop structure and with the high performance 12 nanometers ever in making a laptop with a software guide and no experience. And we go through. You can see this is the pictures that the SOC not designed for enough of nice produce and we need a very high precision soldering. This is not mobile phone. Mobile phone is a lot of high-volume and I can't put the capacity at all for just doing the soldering on the phone. But anyway, we get it done by getting around by some good friends. And this is our motherboard. So the motherboard, we have a... We call it SOM module. And the motherboard is going to be used. It's going to be used especially after a while. We have our own chipset coming out. The motherboard will change. But the SOM will change according to the SOC effort. So it's a very ambitious project. But it's a very painful, you know, like pizza. You know, been chasing me for fun. But we get in there and we will get there. And yes, we will open source our motherboard so everybody can take a look at how to make a laptop. Very easy, very simple. Now, from our experience, we can say that we will A to 10 weeks, we will swap a new SOC and we can much produce a thousand laptops that quick. And yeah, and we will... Hopefully in around June, we're going to have a push-crap review program. All the money going to computer, we're going to review back to the market. So wherever help us make a better product for RISC-5 or OpenKilling, we're going to review all that. Right? So, and yes, we have a very good relationship with OpenKilling, hopefully. And we can run a very good international OpenKilling, we'll accept you the same as you do now. Right? That's our goal. Thank you very much. Thank you. Questions? Yeah. So RISC-5 chips that we've ever made, did the thing going. And I'm kind of curious, like, where are you seeing compared to, like, the arm is a good progression, right? How do you feel like it's going to come out as far as power versus performance as it evolves? In the hardware side, I would say that it's a chicken and apple, you know, and the power and performance are always a triangle balance. And I would say, hopefully, the battery, if I say that we're trying to compare it to 86, and I would think it's better, but if for arm, I don't know. Right? In the short term, no. But you give it enough time, three to five years, and you might have a hard time with the power. And the point is, we need the one thing now, or the SOC company called a book, they always try to produce a development book. It's not the final product. That makes the growing is hard. You got to go into a mess for the moment out of practice. Right? Move it, it won't kick quick. Otherwise, everybody waiting to show you the development book is not going to happen. But you got to test the market. And if you battle, and you make it better, you know where the better at the moment, develop more until you wear the best, the good best better. Hopefully, I'll answer your question. All right, more questions in the back. It's really great to see another open laptop. I'm curious about the case in the shell. Is that something that you develop all the idea yourself? Or is there a library that you can go to to get to things like the screen and the touchpad and all that, you know, like a standard of split-nation, things like that? I would say that all these, in South Southern China, the Bay Area, they have a lot of, we call it common mode. It basically is that you can pick up the libraries, and then people can just match produce it with no copyright, and blah, blah, blah, whatever it is. And there are some fancy things. There are some untested things. And 90s one actually is matched produced in in 1886, and in the latest i7. And this year, I and I did bigger screen. So we used the tested version of the structure, and we just changed the board to this side. Basically, I would say that anything help this time pick up and wherever I get the ambitions, that would be. That's why I go to all the finger experience, and I don't want the world to meet it again. That's why we open source it. You mentioned that you're going to last produce soon. Last produce session will be 7.0. Will be DIY. I mean, will it be easy for them to invest screen, that's about it. I think we will match produce this one. And if the screen and all these things, as long as you fit in the structure, that's possible. But if it's not, then it's not. It's not a modular, it's not a full modular design. When I look at Chrome, Google did do design on the modular framework. But the problem is that when you become modular and the price goes up, and the match produce, for example, the 22 nanometer we're going down, we're looking if you're going down to $500 USD. And the bone, you know, it's raised whatever the overhead, whatever the production line up to whatever the bone. So if we had to leverage the common views, we'd share a low component to x86. Otherwise, we won't get that cheap. All right, another question. We can do that. Are you familiar with the framework platform? Do you see how they're doing? Yeah, I've heard about it. But it's not going to get the price down. The price range is where we have to reuse components. As much as we can. Otherwise, even you're modular, but you know, you're modular with nobody. You're modular with your own cell phones. So you have to be sharing. Share as much as you can. And take the fancy structuring and change it and share as many components as you can. And that will make you more developed. And at the end of the day, the laptop, the battery, basically the motherboard thing is more changed. Except 5.5, 5.6, 5.7, anything else. So there's no point in keeping a laptop for the motherboard anymore. So that's why we call it a new kind of SOE. Hopefully we'll get that. Hans, what's the extension paper? Standard USB or HDMI? Yeah, everything on x86. HDMI, Type-C, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Type-C? Type-C. That means USB. USB port and audio and everything. Same as your mobile. Fantastic. All right. That's one more question. You mentioned about this. This is a term, I don't know, with SOM. So then also by YouTube? No, not the cheap ones. The cheap ones we use in Starfight. We will use all the SOC on the market and try to make engineering more useful. If you are like a crazy guy like Peter, we will ship all these crazy things to him. So if it's just, to be honest, Starfight isn't ready for normal use, but it's ready for the developer. The crazy developer has a dream about this by growing bigger in ten years like us. That's it. I'll take the last question here. Me. Mr. Wai, why don't you ask me anymore? Why is it all over? What's the backstory? I'm reading here, reading here. You know, originally... I'll see what I can open this... my PPT. It's going to take a while for it to stop, right? Yeah. It's just a nice new buggy. I know, but I will not say it. Oh, you won't use? I'm going to say it. Yeah. So bear with me. This buggy expected a baby. Just coming out of there. When was this question made? When was it actually manufactured? And we're actually going to be working on China's new stuff. Before China was new here, China was new there. In stable states. You see, it's very slow, you know? So it's... Roma, because you know what Roma is, right? Yeah. It's M. I don't know whether you can connect it. I don't know. We can try. Maybe you try. Why not try it? If we break it, we break it, right? Yeah. Come on, then. We have mine to be put, you know? You need a lot of hope. Come on. Come on. So... Roma... You know that. And... That's the reason. And the other reason is Rome. It's the destination you want to go. And there's many paths that we can reach. Oh, that's right. That's all. You need a lot of help. Where? The deep computing company. Deep computing is the guy. It's the guy, the farm, the guy behind this company is one of the famous guys in the street that the shareholder behind deep computing. He knows a lot of guys making laptops and pads and whatever. And he's the guy paying for all the product and everything. He's aware and he makes chips. And me, it's a software company that's in charge of all the systems. And unfortunately, this time, it's a hardware. So you can see how big he is. Thank you. Thank you. Alright, thank you very much. Thank you very much, everybody. And with that, we end day two. So, yeah. So come back tomorrow.