 Welcome to Toffee TV. This video was taken from The Daily Extra, the video where we delve behind the headlines on the Everton News Daily. To watch the full video, get over to patreon.com forward slash toffee tv e f c. We've got 10 exclusive videos on there every single week for our Patron subscribers. So get over there and see what we're doing. Welcome to Toffee TV. It's The Daily Extra here on Patreon with Baz and me. Want me to go behind? Do you want me to go behind and go behind the curtain? That's it. Where Baz looks at his neighbours. Yeah, there. So it's been a little bit quiet in the last couple of weeks since the announcements of this stadium project, public consultation, which starts next Thursday. Next Thursday it starts. Be ready. Don't know what time. Nope. Is it 12? Is it 12 and one? Is it like, is it like? Is it business hours? Netflix. Do you have to wait till it's 12 o'clock in another country before it's you know all that nonsense? But it will start a week today. So something that's come out today as they start ramping up a little bit, the knowledge, dropping more bombs, filled with knowledge, is that one of the things that's going to be on it. Hailstones and bombs, but yeah, because it's hardly anything. Good, yeah. Seeing the size of some of the hail stones. Yeah, to be fair, yeah. So one of the planned questions is how big will the capacity be? Yeah, which is interesting because it's one of the questions that people seem to have arguments about every single day is the capacity. Will we feel 60? We won't feel 60, blah, blah, but 61878 and all this. So do you think it's a good thing that this will be included? It's like there's two ways you're looking at it. One is you would have thought that you'd have the capacity. Yeah, you would have thought. When you were designing the thing. But the other side of it is it's good to get everyone. The already know everyone's views, you don't have to go on Twitter for 10 minutes and that's it. That's a good fan bit, it's a good like cross section. All's everything we'll have to do is go what's the capacity be? And within five minutes you know what the fans thought of. But I suppose it's good that it's in there because people can reaffirm those, but is it good? Well, if you want, people will always want to say I gave my opinion. Okay, that's fine. So, you know, rather than whatever, there might be some people who don't really use social media as such, you know, and there is people like that, you know, and they'll go to these consultations and fill the thing in. So from that perspective, nobody really or very few people really will be able to say, well, I didn't, I didn't make my thing clear. The slight worry behind it is, why is it not? I would have thought I'm not an architect. I'm not a stadium designer. But I would have thought, I'm not honest. I know you think I am, but I'm not. I would have thought if you were setting down to plant something, you'd go, right, listen, we want 60,000 seat a stadium. So what does that look like? Dan, whatever. Do you know what I mean? So do you, I mean, do you believe pathetic? I know, but you believe that the club doesn't know what the stadium is and they just don't want to say it. So I feel that they don't pass. Okay. Because I, I think putting this question on this is, is, is pathetic. I, yeah, I think it's pathetic. You know my feelings on this. No, none of us should have a say on, on what it looks like, what the capacity is. These are, but do you not think it's important that the, the gate? No. What fans are thinking? No. No. No. I agree with a public consultation. Absolutely agree with a public consultation. If you don't ask them what questions, you're going to ask them because the voices laugh. I agree that it should be a public consultation, but this goes over to not being a public consultation. This is a, this is a bubblegum question. Because for me, right, if you're building a stadium, all this should be hard data. This should be, it should be hard data. This is not hard data. This is a last minute, let's appease the fans like we always do. Load of nonsense. Is it though? Yes, because, but what, what, how, so, so what are they going to do? If, if, if, if 60,000 people say yes, it should be 60,000, then is it 60,000? If 55,000, if, you know, 55,000 people say it should be 55,000, is it going to be 55,000? I like what you're doing there. You know, 52,000 say it should be 52,000. So how do you, how do you, how do you rationalise that? What, what they might do is say 40% of people canvassed, which was our biggest thing said, that 55,000 was, was the ideal capacity for it. And that's kind of what we were thinking. So we've gone with that. I'm not saying it is, I'm just going to be devil's advocate. I'm just saying that. If it's a case of, we're only going to build it. God. You know what I mean? If it's a case of we're only going to build it, 60,000, if enough people say 60,000, that doesn't work. It doesn't work. I've said all, we've both said all along, the club should have come out when Dan, if they wanted to wait, when Dan Mice was here in February was it, when they had Del March, when they had the consultation then, he should have come out and gone with aim and for 55 or 58, whatever, right? That's what the capacity is. And then everyone could have gone, oh, why isn't it 60,000? And then he could have gone, the way it is, the way the dock is, the way the project is, this is the best fit for it, but it's going to be an intimidating 55,000 the way I'm designed it. People could have still moaned. People have moaned anyway, they haven't come out and went, it's 61,878. A lot of people go, boss that, and people will go, should have been 70, it should have been, we should be future proofing, blah, blah, blah. If they come out and go it's 52, people say it should have been 60, they're going to moan. Some people are going to moan no matter what. So the club may as well have filled that silence themselves and gone, this is what it is, this is what the architect said, this is what the experts have said, and this is the way the stadium is going to be.