 When this treaty is concluded and all of the nations subscribing to it, we shall now have a window of opportunities for blind people. There will be no limitation to their right to know and their right to read and their right to knowledge. They can now fully or they will have unhindered access to publish works. And well we say the sky is a limit then for blind people because that window of opportunity will have been opened. The discrimination that we have suffered over the years will have been totally removed in their way. We can also understand that the publishers of books are concerned about because they are the right holders. They are concerned about their rights being protected and that they are not exploited in the process. But also the larger beneficiaries are blind and visually impaired more than 300 million people. And their needs need to be served and we must ensure that they have access to books in the format that can be available as low as the cost can be. Because many blind people in developing countries are not income earners. So if we make the treaty so difficult and the services cannot cross borders to reach the poorest of the poor and the most marginalized group of blind people, then well history will have, I mean Josh this international conference really has a failure which we don't hope.