 Welcome to church of the chair where we celebrate all the things we do while seated I'm your host E here with my co-host Chad Lusky and we were working on a collaborative novel called Planet caravan At least that's what we're calling it right now We are over 20,000 words into it I we got to be at this point because Chad's been writing all weekend here and there so I have no idea We didn't even talk about this before we went live. I have no idea what I'm doing today I guess I'm gonna try and finish up the scene that I was doing the last time But also I don't want to get too far ahead of Chad or else we're gonna have several of these were you know He's just over here playing catch-up and yeah, I don't want that and I'm not setting up my light today So y'all just gonna have to deal with shadowy My my rig is all over the place and I got to figure out some kind of way to organize it now that I know how to Now that I have my streaming set up set up properly Let's see here. What did what did reverse have to say? I feel you on Jerusalem's lot was a tad too long the atmosphere however was there I actually read Sam's lot after reading the first three or four stories of night shift as long as you didn't get to one for The road you won't have any spoilers for Sam's lot I had expected a way different resolution for father Callahan and in general had me left thinking for a long time well he Father Callahan stories not over so I squeeze Salem's lot and you might actually know all this morning Sam How you doing man? I ain't seen you since I left at Instagram How the hell have you been I? Squeezed Salem's lot in between my first. Okay. All right. Good morning boggle morning everybody How's the how's the artwork and everything going Sam? And I ain't seen Sam and probably what's it been it's been over two years because I left Instagram two years ago Anyway, it's hope you're doing well You're doing fine, that's good So we're gonna start off this morning. I'm gonna share my screen Chad has Chad has written quite a bit Need to find my page Still trucking. I just finished a book cover for Western awesome Very very cool We are nearing the 22,000 word mark Look at that. We'll be at 24 easily by the end of the day At least with what I got to do Come on, come on I'm just glad we don't have to worry about this family anymore until like at the end But that'll be like the all the comeuppance and everything. Yeah so Hi, I'm gonna start here For those of you just joining us just to let you know We long periods of time we We're doing nothing, but working on the book so the point of these streams is for you guys to learn how our collaborative process works and Just to let you give you guys a space to work alongside us So if you're struggling with motivation or getting work done, whatever it might be That's what we're here for you can come work with us that kind of thing Where you got any questions just leave them down there in the chat and we'll get to them We'll answer damn near anything Yeah, we're gonna have to tweakers is used at least twice in this we got to change that because that's specifically for meth. I We could use fiends We've always just called people even before meth was popular anybody like tweaking or dude you a tweaker like Like just and somebody who's on a hard drug that that they're can't sit still that they're not something's not right Okay, all right, so when the reviews pop up with the I'm a I'm a point of me Say I was confused throughout because they kept calling them tweakers, but they were on cocaine. I Look at them. Well, I mean, you can't can't call them crackhead. Coke heads on silly. Yeah, I know I'm leaving junk doesn't apply either. I Don't know what to change it to anyways But fiends would be the coke fiend would be the only thing or fiends. That's okay. That's a good one. Yeah That's what we called him anyways Yeah, well, I did I do refer to and Rita is the biggest fiend of all. Yeah, I remember that one Yeah All right, I'll fix him you fix what? all the tweaking references because after Good after googling I see that consensus is yeah strictly mess, so I Would I wouldn't that's definitely that ain't important to me. I just pointed out I guess that if we it's important to me But look cuz like you said man people like you know, they're looking for something They're looking for something my name Try to make sure as many as possible can't can't complain about stupid silly shit. Yeah Anyways, but like like truly truly though, I'd let I let it go. I was like, I'm fine with it if you are This is bound to get some some Becky or something complain in my town We don't call them tweakers unless they're on that. I Don't I don't want to yeah, I don't want you to go through that Chad. I want to protect you from the voices Hey, I wanted I want to Change some words here this punctuated by the occasional scream of terrifying joy I'm gonna do punctuated by the occasional strike of electric joy What you think? Yeah, I mean it emits the the term it emits terrifying meaning like you know people who are on the ride It's like they're screaming in terror, but they're having fun Yeah, no, no, I get it. I just I don't the the Okay, I'll leave it. I Mean I like the term it just drops the whole the idea of fear Okay, never mind. You also put electric in the next one and I like that better Had I kept reading I wouldn't even had that. Yeah, that that was something else that came to mind. Yeah This is a the funny part about it is it just felt like there needed to be electric in there somewhere and You got it thinking about taking that they are my cocaine out And just leaving this is my drug I haven't got to that yet, but okay Yeah, I like I already like that better Like that. I'm gonna put this in bold because I'm not sure if I'm happy with it or not, but Something I feel there That's probably not the way I want to say it, but yeah $5 might as well be 50 actually I was thinking muffle pig muffle pigs brunt and a cow lows But I mean, it's just what semantics at that point. Yeah And cows what? low or a cow lows Lo w it's the same thing and it's just more I never heard of it Yeah, yeah low of a cow make a characteristic deep sound My only comp my only thing is People who don't know it reading that sent like having it pull them out and going Whoa, that's fine. You like reading it over Like I said at this point that was just semantics. It was just like a I don't know It felt better coming off the tongue kind of it. So it does it does it sounds better, but I Don't know how common it is I I Mean it's it's in a way in a manger Chad. I mean come on The cattle are low wing the poor baby waves No, I don't know Sorry, I don't know Christmas music fuck off. No, I'm just kidding. I'm kidding But yeah, if you want to go back to move that's fine squatting low to the ground With the jeans pulled down Wrangles my eyes And refuse to move I will legit sing like whole paragraphs because if you can sing it Yeah, that's that's the kind of prose. I like but you can't have a little splash of urine dude I Was a CNA for five years man splashy urine means something completely different to me I think I'm gonna okay, so you had I turned to face her and I'm just oh shit. Hang on I hit control Z went too many times Where is it? All right, so here I turned to face her but after the you can turn around now But I do and the reason for that is he's turned. We've used turned like three times up to this point Is I used to barrette Barrette I actually have no idea. I have no I didn't know I don't think so There's a there's an it's B. A. R. R. Yeah, it's gonna eat it's gonna eat Barrette To ours to tease to ease but sleep Anyways No lights are going in the past tense. There was another one up here. I wasn't sure It was a took. Yeah, I took her word for it. I'll change it to take I wasn't I wasn't sure about that one I'm gonna go ahead and change in any ways. I was probably writing my cozy mystery. He slipped back in here Yeah, that damn past tense everybody use it everybody lazy homebody or at least used to not like present tense and Oh, yeah It's same with me. Um, and I the first present tense book I ever read was uh, Sandman Slim by Richard Tadry And I fucking hated it man Or that I realized that it was written in a different way because there's like Dolores Claiborne is is written in present tense because it's all happening in real time but uh Other than that, I was like this makes no sense. How can how can this character be writing this stuff in the present? Not like he has a uh, oh you had a hard time looking past that. Yeah, exactly. And then I read gun love Uh, which is I think you'd fucking adore this by Jennifer Clement It's pretty much like south of here Um, but it's about a mother and a daughter living in a trailer park and there's an alligator farm next uh around them But yeah, fantastic book Hmm, I'm gonna mark that down man, but it's it's just slice of life stuff It's really good Very lean very short It's one it was one of the inspirations for south of here anyways I'm sure you'll catch it as soon as you start reading. I hate these ebay listings that say uh Dust jacket for hard covers may not be included like just a generalization Because then I'm I'm not buying that. You might have a dust jacket. Exactly. Yeah. I don't I don't fuck some of those Just bought it. What'd you buy? Gun love Okay Just a used copy library copy off ebay cool I'm a cheapskate Oh, that's it. Ain't no shame here. We were just talking about that earlier I gotta save that money son Lord Jesus, I thought this said when she squirts. I'm like this changed into a whole different book real quick when she squints Uh, something wrong with my left eye It's got an aberration effect where It kind of does like a wave right through the middle. Um And I don't know what's wrong not even the dudes at the eye doctor to tell me Hmm So it's not a tumor. It's not anything pressing on the eyeball the pressure is fine. Everything else is fine I can read fine, but the aberration makes ours look like ends and a couple other things Or ends or whatever Well, Google docs will fuck up your your tense in a heartbeat Having to ignore all these things It's like all of these it wants to change to past tense. It's like All the blue underlines Oh, I don't have those set up Yeah I got nothing like that on my screen. I mean I need to turn it off because it's fucking annoying me. I have a um In theater, we call this stage whispering Um, and it's you know whispering but loudly Uh, I don't know if you like the sound of whisper yells or if it's just something you settled on But we could do uh, she stage whispers Well, if um, in fact, but you said in theater Like like that's a term in theater Okay, my that my alien ain't unless there's a different term that's like kind of like Uh, like whisper yells people know you know what that Might not be a term, but they know what what it is. But so if you've got something that's like more universal Throw it in there and I don't know that she'd need to whisper. Anyway. I mean the place is loud Yeah, and if somebody says hey, it's not like Like anyone's gonna be alarmed by it Yeah, because she works there or maybe she's just whispering because they're doing something sneaky, you know Or whisper yelling I was gonna write that last night, but I think the nail polish stopped me, but They're not so close together that that it sounds weird or anything Well, I mean, hopefully people realize it's because she's eating the pink and blue cotton candies, but yeah But yeah, it's far enough. It's far enough apart. Oh, I know why next. Yeah, I see Yeah, that's why candy colored tongue that could work. Yeah, she wrote this time candy coated All right, either one works, but anyways damn near same cadence to candy colored candy coated Either one works Oh, no, if you like that or not the purple on her toes matching her lavender tongue Yeah, that beautiful snaggle tooth And think about next chapter I don't name them until like, yeah, I kind of glance through them and see what would be a good title Haha beat you to it that It's all right. I got you. I wrote all this this I wrote the this chapter this morning Luckily you go you go accurately into past tense in this one Yeah, yeah God damn it. You beat me that time Okay, I got an idea We don't have to do this um I can't remember which books of mine that you've read but there is a I can list the ones that I haven't a pale white same deep water Uh out behind the barn None of your collections. I don't think I've ever read a Chad Lutzky short story. I might have but um Yeah, I think it's just those three a wormwood. I haven't read. I haven't read any of your collabs either Okay, or hot skin sheds No, yeah Yeah, or uh A couple others that that I don't talk about you normally, but yeah, I like a um, I think Damn near everything you've uh done yourself Published yourself. I I have read except for Did someone did pale white or did you publish that's that's crystal lake? Yeah, I thought so, okay, so I think and I There's no reason why I haven't read same deep water. That's uh, maybe because I'm waiting for Jax's saga to be done up behind the barn is uh independently published but Duncan Ralston Uh, let us slap his Shadow work publishing on the back of it Bloodletter my vampire sellout but Uh written under C. E. Let's give you I'm ready to but anyway, okay, so you've read the one the three that I'm gonna talk about in I'm not sure if you're gonna remember these in a foster homes and flies. There's a girl named sam uh, who is 16 going on 17 that meets up with denny Um, he helps her out of the situation where she's been hitchhiking in this older guy Uh, is trying to is trying to is being pervy Mm-hmm They meet outside of the store and then they spend the night together in a park just Uh talking and falling asleep together. It's very flotonic But it's also romantic um She Uh is carrying around uh, I believe it's a copy of the temple of gold by William Goldman As an example of a good coming of age book because she hates the catcher and the rye so Sam also makes an appearance in and then she takes off because she's going on this road trip and then and storing the sheets when um Emmett Uh I think it's after he jumps out of bed after Spoiler alert sleeping with the corpse not not sexually just lying there with there, but he wakes up with an erection shames himself Takes off and goes to the beach in the middle of the night um and Picks up a hitchhiker named sam She She mentions I think she mentions the book the temple of gold and bashes catcher in the rye And then in skull face boy when Levi is pissing behind the wicks and six sticks thing There's graffiti all over and one of the things says samus here um Just a generic enough name that I didn't care to catch it just a generic enough name so she makes these appearances and uh I don't know that it that it would fit I had to look last night to see if the ages matched up and stuff and I thought it would have been cool If this was kind of like sam's story it could even be a selling point, you know Like because I get asked about sam a lot Hey um, I'm fine with whatever in fact I brought up when uh when We were first talking about doing this. I was like if you wanted to bring in Like one of your characters like what I think what I used was if like jack's met James But it could be literally anybody So if you want to do that, I'm perfectly fine with that And by selling point, I don't mean like promote it as such. I mean like if someone asks I uh, you know on a podcast or whatever if you find want to find out A lot more about sam read the book that I wrote with edward loren and Yeah, the whole truth the whole truth is there and we could even mention like she says that she's going She tells she tells uh And this could be like after the fair I don't think that there's a timeline in A foster homes and flies. I don't mention anyone's For all anybody knows denny's a black kid. I don't mention any of this kind of stuff. I don't mention I don't mention an era Just New Orleans, you know New Orleans in the summer. So um She could even You know in organically of course Mention that she something like I used to tell people that I you know, or no, that doesn't make sense I'm trying to think of the timeline like because She could foster homes and flies could take place um after this like After she leaves but then again, uh part of me a small part of me wanted to Kill her at the end of this book Yeah, no, I remember you mentioned you you know, not if not if she dies So so you're talking about making shenna sam Um and have this be the what origin story Is that what you're saying or or or or this is what happens after all the other ones Like she like she I'm down with it takes off. I mean obviously would have to be you know, she ends up dead then Then this won't have to be you know But I'm just trying to think of because in foster homes and flies she says I'm going to live with my cousins in california And at the end, you know the last sentence or whatever the last paragraph Denny calls calls her and then She picks up and then that's the end. So she's clearly still alive. So this takes place before that And she leaves the fair and goes on her road trip after that um It would have to be because she leaves when she's 13 here and I want to keep that Because I like that I love the idea of her being 13 And dating this dude that's like oh enough to be your dad Yeah, um, you know just shows how I don't know It just shows a lot about her and about her situation and what she's been through And I like the tension that she you know that that will be there between her and buzzard Yeah, I'm perfectly fine with that I think I know issue whatsoever Now now when steven king does this type of thing or when other authors do this kind of thing is everything Is it is there room for Well, this doesn't fit this Like uh Like let's say there was a timeline on a fostering surprise. Let's say it was modern day and this is 1989 When king links all his stuff up is is the timeline cohesive or that's that's why uh, that's why all his fans say It's just another turn of the wheel Because he'll have characters that died. Um, perfect example, uh, Patrick hockstetter is a doctor in fire starter, but patrick hockstetter also dies in It so back in 1950s, but fire starter happens in the 80s and patrick hockstetter is a is a doctor also there's a um There's several there's several timeline issues, which one of the reasons why The dark tower ended up being what the dark tower is Um is because he wanted to fix a bunch of continuity errors in the world Like how could this person be alive that so He he hasn't out um because he has the whole wheel turns, you know every turn is different that kind of thing So he hasn't out. Um as far as anyone else. I don't know any I can't think of another author that does it as much as him That's not like really generic, uh, because J conrath does it blake crouch did it. Um, These guys did it, but it was super generic. It was just like let's shoehorn in this character However, he fits, you know that kind of thing Um, whereas king will take a character like daddy is bowman from the dark half and tell You know, he's got his own book the dark half and then he also is mentioned In three other stories. Uh, one of them is a novella and then two other novels No, it's two not two novellas in a in a novel and then uh same with ace and pop meryl Same with uh synthia from uh First appearance is I believe it's rose matter and then she's in desperation And then she has a twin air version that's in the regulators. So when he does things like this, uh It's it's pretty casual and you know, it has no bearing on the story like like whatsoever. Whereas, uh When like a conrath or a crouch does it they reference like the whole catalog of where this person came from goes through all of their stuff Even with holly, he doesn't do that Um, where he doesn't completely rehash everything they've been through. It's more of hey, look, there's this character you guys remember Let's let's make them work naturally. Um so I I honestly don't think first off we're we're not really Cuffed to this to an exact year. Um, we got the 80s. It's obviously 80s. It could even be early 90s Um as long you mentioned putting the 19 the south 1989 at the beginning But if we don't put that on there, it can literally be any time frame. So it could 100% be I think boom boom might be mentioned. Yeah, it's the sun dog needful things in bag of bones. Yeah, you got it, right? So it is too. No, it is two novels and a novella, but anyways Um until finally he the end of his story is just a one-off sentence in fucking back of bones Uh, the only character he's done that with um, which I find very interesting. Anyways, uh, but Yeah, like I said, the only thing the only thing that would handcuff us is if we put like 1989 at the beginning of the book But then again, you know, people are going to be questioning what time it is We can make it purposefully and ambiguous to what year it is or whatever Um, if you're if you're worried about that, it's an easy fix either. We don't mention the time or We give a vague description of the time. I I don't know. Um, I could even I could even have her say like maybe after Her and buzzer broke up. She did go on like this this sabbatical You can do that sabbatical. Yeah, and told everybody she was Going to her cousins when she really didn't have any We can even we can even have them uh, uh, like That's a really good idea and how we could set that up is We could have buzzered either corner or talking to shane and kind of drop that You know, she just disappears whenever she wants to I wouldn't get too attached, you know, that kind of thing That's a good. Yeah. Yeah. So that's a very natural way to To throw that out there. Maybe after the whole like you said, maybe after the whole thing with buzzard Uh, you know, and then that's that he could throw that down there cause a little bit of internal conflict Is like do you really just disappear anytime? You know that that kind of thing? Um, so yeah, yeah Yeah, I like that. I like that idea. Um I like your idea As I'm as I'm having these two kids get to know each other and um When I was writing this stuff and then you had mentioned carrying around a paperback book I was like, man, this is like sam. It's like sam and denny and I was like, what if this is sam? See that I like them and things like that happen naturally I don't like, you know, the shoot him shoehorned in references and that's that's natural. It fits It's not us trying to change the book to make her fit. It already fits So yeah, 100% if you want to put the goldman book is the book that she has on her 100% I'm fine with that. Um, and we can change her to shant to sam Or maybe just her carny name is shenna And if you want to drop something at the at the end like before she dies or something's like By the way, my real name sam or something some shit like that. Who knows? But any any number of things it, you know, it I like I like stuff like that. Um, yeah, yeah, definitely and um, I would want to make it subtle. So I mean, this is this would be for people who Might remember other stuff that were she would then be like, I think this is is this the same, you know Rather than like, yeah trying to shoehorn and make this about this thing It's just like the clues are there if you've read the other stuff you might pick up on it If not, who cares? Okay. Yeah. Um, I have a character in my big project, uh that I don't know. We'll ever see the light of day that I thought could make a pop in because they come from a Smaller carnival than what they end up in and I was thinking about putting that person in here But nobody would know anything about it Okay. Yeah, they'd be cool until the other big project comes out But just kind of be like if you know people well, then again if I use lawn I'm not using lawn for the big project. So nix that never mind. Um Or maybe like the one in like dairy in a bachman book Yeah It could be something like that. It could very well. I don't know Um, but that's if even like the same two people read my my book and read this book. So I mean that's Which I which I highly doubt completely different genres All right, I'm gonna go ahead and take my break when I get back. I'm gonna do something. I just don't know what I'm gonna do See y'all in about 10 minutes Do you want to share your screen or I mean that doesn't matter at this point. It's up to you Yeah, I can do that. Um, I'm just trying to get people something to look at other than our faces while We're just sitting here Not that I think anybody cares, but most everybody that watches these are working too I'm back Did you do a find replace or did you read what I had up here down here? Uh, I did a find replace. What did what did you have? No, that's fine I was just wondering because I saw that the name was changed in this uh later chapter. I wrote and I was wondering if you'd read it or not Oh The dude the ring toss game that is the game where you throw the rings over all of the bottles, right? Yeah, it's either bottles or it's like uh traffic cones or something like that. Yeah, that's right There's also where there's pegs on the wall that you try to get there's there's multiple different versions, but yeah Do you uh You get what three rings? I don't know depends anywhere between three and five is usually the but the way the way it tends to work is Like three is the base three is gonna cost you back then probably like a dollar and then he'll start us the the The worker will start Uh, they they have a certain way of of talking to make something sound like a deal that isn't actually a deal It's like, uh, one more dollar gets you two more rings when three for the first one, but he makes it sound like it's a deal Um, so using things like that will make it a little more realistic, but yeah, um, of course all of them are rigged It doesn't matter. Um, also the prizes are Uh, they buy them in bulk and they're the stuff that the companies can't sell Because they're damaged in some way, so they'll have some kind of defect. Um, I'm probably giving you more information than you want, but um It's usually back then it would be like, you know, three four dollar and then he's like, hey We'll let you go two more for another dollar, you know that kind of thing Uh, but yeah, it's it's usually it's three to five um But always keep in mind that you know, they're trying just to get more out of the person so So the uh, I know that I know that a lot of these stations they'll have like the uh The real attraction like the giant stuff thing, right? How how what what does it take to win something like that? It would probably be so you want to account for how much the thing costs So, I mean like like what what like Let's say somebody throws three rings and All three rings go exactly to where they're supposed to what is right? You're you're gonna get one of the small prizes So that would be winning you'd get a small prize and that way they would hook you in is like, you know You want to uh double or nothing like, you know, you you get uh two or three more rings But then you have to pay for those rings and it's like, you know double or nothing while you're still paying them um and But yeah, it would every every every round you go up. Um, so it would say something like three rings gets you Like they'll they'll have A row of stuff that's for three rings and then a row of stuff bigger above it That's like five rings and then 10 rings and then up tops like 20 rings Okay, um now that's usually how it goes kind of like uh like chucky cheese and whatnot for the tickets Now I was having uh, I wrote a scene where um, uh They finished the cotton candy and she goes off and she steals a bunch of tickets tells him to put him in his pockets And um, then she's like grabs his hand and wants to you know, let's do these games Let's do this one. They meet this person there Um, she points out the fact that she's The the worker there says, you know, your your girlfriend here has been wanting this big pink panther for the last year. So yeah, and I think I don't want him to get it. I don't want him to be able to get it. Uh, I don't like 100 he wouldn't be able to so they they wouldn't let that they wouldn't let that happen Okay, well, she used to run this thing so she would know that right so why would she take him over there? Um I mean, I know people win these things my wife you can even make a point of this stuff Um, where yeah, but usually when you end up winning you're not actually winning Like, you know, you end up spending 30 dollars to do this and the prize only cost them five bucks Even those big giant ones they get them in such bulk. So even though it feels like you're winning You're not actually winning anything Um, but uh, but you could literally have if you know have them have like a conversation He'd be like men that felt rigged and she goes. Oh, yeah, they're definitely they're all rigged It's like, why'd you have me play it if you know, they're rigged. It's like you had fun, didn't you? That kind of I don't I don't know maybe I But on top of that the tick if you're using tickets as a trade system in there instead of paying the the concession uh cash, uh Then it's it's all if she stole a bunch of tickets. It's all free anyways. So I mean there's like no unless I'm Not seeing the problem you're seeing I guess I guess, uh, maybe I shouldn't have you write this this part because uh, okay Well, I can always go back and layer it I can make it work within the because I've got this possibilities no matter what I got like this romantic thing going on where she you know, we talked about her wanting her to be assertive So she's like grabbing his hand a lot and she's like, you know, when she introduces You know, like the workers like who you got here and she's like, this is my date You know and this guy's like, whoa, wait, you know, she's being very Like not really flirtatious. It's just her and he's this is all new for him. He's kind of like, you know um So she's kind of hard to read. He's like Does she like me? It's you know that kind of thing because she's acting like but but this is also very new to him. He's you know um But that's just in her nature and she has she's wanted this thing. She's hoping Um, you know, she thinks it's just the romantic most romantic thing if he could do this But if she are he thinks all this then none of this makes sense if she already knows that You can't I mean, I like the idea of well, you had fun didn't you but But it doesn't match with what I've written so far. So I think maybe I'll Well, just leave it we can I'll I'll read it before we're done today Another thing to keep in mind is usually the the games Are not run by tickets. Um, the games are usually cash Um, and the reason for that is because there's tangible prizes involved Whereas with rides they would sell tickets. Um, it's just like you don't use tickets to buy the concession stand foods Um, you you would use cash uh because you're dealing with tangible products You're not dealing with a ride. Um with the ride Uh, and then what happens after that is they tally up how many tickets they have And the operators get paid from the concession stand not from the The box office. I guess it would be called So that's another thing to consider is it might might not even happen at all because of that Because he doesn't have any cash to use on the on the thing But I mean we can always make up our own like a reason or we don't even have to I might be thinking too much into this but uh most carnivals be The game stuff all that stuff is a cash prize because they're trying to make the money back for what they bought Um, and usually three rings the first one that you buy will pay for damn near any of the prizes Um, because they get the the the smallest the smallest bears are usually like 25 cents a piece That's because they get them in bulk from china Um, and then the oriental trading company exactly and then it'll be 50 cents for like the next one I think the most they pay for any of them might be a dollar to three dollars for the big ones Um, and that's like that's only a couple years ago. That's like to not couple years It's like 2010 Is how much those things were going for because you can go on team timu right now Um, not that I suggest this but timu right now in order, you know, 100 bears for like, you know 50 bucks and they're the the little the little shits and that's what they do Um, they buy them in bulk and they're usually damaged products in some way My uh, my oldest has a dog has a bear that she no, it's a bulldog that she calls bill They call sorry they they call bill. Um, and the uh It has one of its eyes uh doesn't Isn't like it's it's sewn in from the back But it's like slightly hanging also and that thing cost me five dollars So you got one eye and that's ever since uh, I I want it. It's been like that We got it and the one eye was kind of like hanging out and there's no tightening or anything The other eye is fine, but there's always a defect And they have another one that's a brown bear That has the stitching on its back is like a almost like a zigzag pattern when it's supposed to be straight It's like something screwed up with the sewing machine So Yeah, so even the stuff that you win brand new has usually got some kind of defect in it because they just buy them in bulk Um, but yeah, let me let me read it. I'll see if I can make it work because that's what That's like what I do That's one of the things I'm the best at is finding a reason for something that shouldn't be there or that doesn't work so another route we could go is She's uh, grifting this guy from the from the get-go and she's just doing her job working the thing and then And then uh, you know later on she's like just so you know, you you never could have won that And he's like, well, why did you and then she could say Because that's what we do and then and then she said Um, he's like, well, why all the tickets are why and then it could be like because you wanted to have fun Yeah, so yeah And what what's more what's more fun than winning your date a prize? Wait a second. It's a date or whatever Any any number of things. Yeah, I like that. Um But yeah, she's also been with this carnival for what three four years something like that. Uh, so I mean she's It all of this is going to come Grifting people is going to be second nature to her. It's going to be the you know, the very first thing she she thinks of doing That's just that life. So, um Yeah, we can a hundred percent do that is be like, you know, that's just how we do things around here and Everything you just said is perfect. I like it. So we'll figure it out and we can even go, uh Is like usually he charges money, but he's gonna he he let me do it because of the tickets and I stole the tickets So nobody loses anything. You had fun. Didn't you? You know that kind of thing? Whatever any number of things Thanks, honey What do you what are you working on? Uh, the end of this, uh, three-part chapter. I was doing the the whole thing with the strong woman Uh setting people up by leaving your truck unlocked so she can get in fights Okay That's it Just another one of those odd things that happens like in the middle of it That has no other bearing on the story other than the good and bad sounds I'll bear back. All right I'm back. All right Did we have uh boobs as being a particular character? If so, we put it down here Yeah, just no the only thing we have is uh just Uh because everyone loves him All right, I've got to mess the hot dog guy right now. Yeah He probably be best if everybody loves him. He's got to be in some kind of sales position My wife dnf to do my key I was wondering how long that was going to take for one of you to be like, uh, I don't think so Well, it's it's rewarding as fuck by the time you get to the end but I kept trying to convince her because I just you know I just bought her a hardcover and I already have my hardcover of it So that book is so much better a second time around and I don't expect anybody to read it twice But I'm I'm I'm not hating on it. I don't mind it But yeah, she's uh, I turned around to Some really good books recently and that might have something to do plus she's she's used to my Kind of no nonsense don't fill her type of yeah, you know stuff and to go from that to steven king Um where your it's wordier is hard for her, but yeah, I just had her read um hard mountain clay Which is uh one of the best books I've read so far this year and then She read Oh hidden pictures which I bought but I haven't read and then uh the last thing he told me which is uh She liked that too. I haven't read it So Which which author to you he writes the best characters? I mean, I think that's obvious That's what I was thinking. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's obvious Uh, yeah, that's the whole reason I read king If you're even still in here you you asked that question 21 minutes ago My niece started school today. What the what happened to uh I thought school used to start in like september, man It all depends on where in the world you are, but I mean you would know around your area more than I would I mean all my kids are graduated, but What the heck that's horribly sad. Yeah, it used to be like Like mid september. Jeez Sorry Oh, you're fine, dude for one two Basically three pages. Um, now I'm gonna go back up and read what you what you've added And I'll uh I I got a thing on here. You'll see this is insert worker resetting the rules to shame Mm-hmm. Gotcha. You can write all that and then um, I think we'll just do what I was talking where they'll the uh I've had while they're eating their hot dogs. She'll be like just so you know, you never you like everything I just said and then she'll just you know confess the grift and and that there was a uh ulterior motive and that was For him to have fun. Yeah I just used that in that later chapter. I'm writing too as far as the setting up of the grip So I'm already I'm already using stuff or from earlier Kind of tie in the themes but like yeah, let me read this and we'll uh Drive to survive After we finish the cotton candy. She grabs my hand and runs behind the truck because you have behind bed truck Which uh It's the first line of the new stuff. Well the highlighted stuff Um, the truck bed is Runs behind the truck bed Yeah, okay And I may you know, I might have all this kind of ticket stuff wrong I don't know or maybe they just do it differently because they try to Save as much money as possible or they have a different way of things out of here. Yeah, I'll uh, I'll figure it out There's plenty of ways to do it I just I'll pick the easiest and most natural way Or at least run that by you and get rid of that very if you want to You know, you have any idea what that means the pineapples My grandparents used to do it when they would go camping They used to have the in this in the 70s. It was very popular in the trailer parks Do you know why? Like I don't want to be the one to tell you if it's your grandparents Um, trust me, but if it's something sexual my grandparents were very in This was like an old person's like I I get that it might it might seem something now, but it did not then Okay, I mean like 75 started in like 40s yeah pineapples, uh pineapple has been the The kind of secret Thing for swingers since the 40s Letting people know that they're in an open relationship And it might not be but the the string of the string of pineapples or a pineapple in your front yard or an upside down pineapple um Yeah, that's that's been since the 40s. That's like how people used to like, you know, like Uh speakeasies and whatnot would would let people know that they were interested in swinging that that kind of thing This is more like a like a tiki type of you know, like the tiki decor Like hawaiian and things like that. I got you. Okay. I mean it would be fitting for mingo Yeah, it would it would 100 percent 100 percent. I just I was like, I don't know if I want to say this if your grandparents Yeah, no, my Today on the live stream chad finds out his grandparents were freaky Just kidding. The funny part about that is my My grandmother, I believe is the first person who told me about that um, it's like you want to stay away We want to stay away from people with pineapples out front of their places and she lived in a what was considered a retirement trailer park Uh, there was like a gated community kind of deal, but it was still trailers So there's really nothing fancy. They had a pool and everything. It was in ukaipa I can't remember what it was called, but uh, ukaipa california and she goes don't go anywhere near the people with the pineapples out front Okay, I guess it has to be an upside down pineapples. It has to be upside down. Yeah all right Yeah, because i'm looking at uh, yeah, uh, I googled the pineapple lighting with camping and 1970s tiki lighting and all those Okay, right Ningo, oh my gosh, you know, it's weird dude, but i'm reading this article on what you're talking about and the you know what Pineapples used to be uh, you know that they used to symbolize prosperity and eternal life and stuff and then It says uh in the land of the free and easy those upside down pineapples do indeed simple something Uh, which is a secret squirrel smoke signal for swingers looking for a little action and It says the pineapple must be displayed upside down. So regardless of your gay straight middle of the road or teetering on the edge Just be sure to display your pineapple as you intend And then it says what do flamingos signify? From for me, it isn't well, I could be wrong here, but I always thought flamingo meant queer It says uh, if you're wondering Why your mingos are getting caught in this it says What um Why your mingos? So it's just so funny that all of this is coming together Yeah, I have I'll have I'll read on here what it says about flamingos, but This this happens to me a lot like finding out I've written something that Is actually deeper or goes farther than I thought at first or that I got something right and I had no idea Oh, okay. It turns out flamingos don't don't mean anything All I know from flamingos is I've been to two queer clubs and one one was called the There's the there was the black flamingo in uh watumka, and then there was just flamingos in montgomery, and they were both queer bars There's probably just because flamingos are pink, but yeah, anyways, yeah The black flamingo is fucking awesome. It's one of the coolest clubs. I've ever been in uh in the south Used to go there on drag night to watch the show So There's them motherfuckers put on a show for real I guess some people are saying that Few swingers use Flamingos is a sign of availability and pineapples on the door or porch is the signal that some shenanigans are going on right then I'm wondering if the difference between an elephant ear and a funnel cake is uh regional I can't find anything that says that but I've never heard of a funnel cake Yeah A funnel cake is a cake with a hole in it. No, no, it's not A funnel cake is it looks like a pile of worms Uh dusted with sugar. It's uh, they they extrude Uh Oh, i'm thinking of a bundt cake. Yeah, not not not bundt cake funnel cake. Um, it's the same exact thing Um, it's just the difference in because i've never even heard of elephant ears Um, oh you haven't no I haven't um, but I know I know funnel cakes Funnel cakes is what we normally get down here. Um, I've never seen one in a carnival in the south An elephant ear. It's always been funnel cakes But i'm i'm not i'm not saying change anything. I just wonder what the fuck an elephant ear is and i'm wondering difference of region yeah, it's uh Basically Elephant ear shaped doughnut or you know, yeah, that's what I see it's um Yeah, it's uh It's fried dough. That's pounded flat. Yeah Um, whereas uh, yeah the funnel cake is a fritter batter Um, and not a dough Not your typical dough anyways That's just that's just interesting to me like I said I never heard of them But then again the only carnivals fairs anything like that. I've been to is and is here in alabama, so Very well, and I never went to one oddly enough as much as I love it Probably because of the mystery of it is why I fell in love with it. I was never allowed to go when I was younger Oh, we have them, uh Yeah, we've got a calhoun county fair here in marshal michigan which is right next door to battle creek and um Yeah, they got the All in usual stuff. I mean it's pretty big Um They do it once a year and they yeah, they get the elephant ears and I think they have elephant ears at Cedar point too, of course cedar points at an amusement park, but got you But I've never been Down south other than to you know, florida a few times You know so passing through All right, I'm gonna go ahead and take a break. Someone's here. Also. I can hear the car out there I'm gonna go ahead and take a break. I know what's going on But I'll I'll be at least 10 minutes because I'm gonna walk around too and when I get back I'm gonna write uh the The ring toss scene So the yeah the bit you have insert worker reciting the rules to shame. Yeah Okay, I'll be back Anyone in here Anybody have any questions? I'm sitting here kind of taking a break myself. What's up, sam? Brainstormic for new ideas Okay, dokey Brainstorm away sam brainstorm away That's what this is for I'm gonna drag this uh buzzard thing out a little bit like Hoping that the reader like shane just probably assumes this is a kid, you know your age And then there'll be some kind of hilarious revealed that is buzzard I've got a character down here. You can change the name. You can change her her uh Details or whatever but for now. I just wrote Uh, did you did you read the part where the chick with the Tits so big they're under chin. She could bite her tongue. Okay. Yes, uh Chantilly I just wrote the name down whatever we can change it Middle-aged big breasted woman who runs the ring toss Booty calls on occasion with mingo All right, fish shantilly. This is shane On a date The way I can use something other than lady I have never I don't think I've ever met anybody with that name. It just makes me there's that song Chantilly ladies and I'm pretty yeah Chantilly lace with tits interface You're right. We we're over the 24k mark Yeah, we'll probably end up being at 25 before we're done today because I'm I'm rolling pretty steady. Maybe I don't know how far we are over 24 I just got real dark with uh sam's history Julia I can't remember. What where's shane's dad? I don't think we mentioned it. Have we? I can't remember Dang dude I just scrolled up looking for something Yeah, and uh, I'm so glad to be out of that house. My gosh Yeah It's a uh Yeah A whole a whole different feel right now. It's exciting kids got future ahead of them. Oh, man Yep, yuck. Yeah, there is that uh, I have that same hopeful feeling now Okay, I think I'm Think I'm tapped out got a large A lot written some really important scenes done For or at least started Okay, I think I got it awesome Uh, do you think this is I'm gonna leave this here for now, but why is that? Do you think that we should have uh I just had Shane kind of put together what might be happening with that grave But I don't know if we want to stretch it out more or have this but I have um Where she looks at uh, she sees the blisters on his hand and asks him, what's the story behind that? He said my uncle made me dig a grave She says a grave for who? He said and then and then this isn't he didn't say anything after that That was a good question one. I hadn't asked myself until now Suddenly all these pieces came to the center like a magnetic puzzle pulling itself together The brick of coke the too big for bruce grave hunter's car backed up to it Shibby's coloring books Yeah, um, I was gonna use uh, I know you I know you changed and this isn't a problem But I was gonna use the the page that he tears off with shibby's name on it that he stuffs in his pocket I was gonna use that later for something like that. So with that, but this works just fine Okay, I have him like reach into his pocket and fill the paper Um when the the grave thing came back up However, but I I like here is just fine I I'll read all this tomorrow my my back's killing me and we're already almost four hours into this some bitch. So All right, who said what? Century if you're still here, uh, has writing a book ever became uber boring or stressful at one point to you? No, uh, if it does that if I'm bored the reader is going to be bored. So I just don't bother with it Um, no matter how good it is. I but I but I can't express how Little that happens. Um, usually I don't even start writing an idea unless it's exciting enough for me to At least write a short story about it. So it happens Very very rarely Um, but when it does happen, it's usually before the 15k mark and I just end up trashy Or it goes into the sorry it goes into my cannibal pile and pile Hey tim, sorry. I missed your brother But I was neck deep dude, we got like 3500 words written today. Yeah I knew it was going to be a lot. I knew it as soon as I sat down because I was like, I Yeah, uh, this is the carnival section. So yeah, I knew it was going to be like that. Hang on, uh So I'm going to put everything I wrote in a different color Okay I'll do red for right now. I don't know if you're gonna be able to read that or not. But anyways, it's My stuff's in red God damn, that's bright There's there's a other other I know I'm going I'm going I just I didn't expect it to be as fucking vulgar as it is Jesus Christ Blood red Yeah, that'll work. I got my I got my paisley my cornflower blue Anywho Thank you all for joining us. We appreciate it. We always appreciate it. Thanks for hanging out. I hope you guys got some some work done Uh, if not, maybe some motivation do some work later on Uh, but that is it. We will be back tomorrow at 9 a.m. Central standard time We'll be doing monday through friday until this joker is done. Once me and shatter done I'm picking up with uh with derrick jones who is a member of the channel And we're going to be writing a book from scratch. Derrick has never written anything So it's going to be where you you're watching us two professionals Experienced, uh, you were going to go from that to watching someone who has never written anything and me kind of mentoring him and writing along with him and Learning from each other. So uh, just like me and shatter doing but Y'all have a good day Uh tomorrow, I don't know when I'm gonna I Also, I don't know how many there's only three people here I was going to give an update, but I'd just be repeating myself over on discord Anyways, y'all have a good one until next time. I'll hail the chair