 That's cool, standing at the top of the ice fall, major traffic jam, there's a base camp way down there, and we just repelled down this little guy, and there's about 15 people at the top of that waiting to come down. It left now Phil, yeah get out over all that shit, straight down, this is the alternative was another ladder, but there was about 20 people waiting to come down that, beautiful April day, there's Pumori, and that's the route we're eventually going down, we're about 15,500 feet into Kumbu Ice Fall, heading up for our camp 3 rotation, and it is crowded up here, but we're having fun, aren't we Scott? We are, just get rid of the cough, it'd be great, but we're doing really well as far as our time, we're making the traffic. We sure are, we're climbing about 500 feet in an hour, just not bad, and it actually is very very beautiful up here, except for all the people, you know, what I really like about climbing Himalaya is how peaceful it is, here at 19,500 feet into Kumbu Ice Fall, I feel I sense a serenity and peacefulness, it's just me in nature, you know, there's not a lot of crowds, it's just perfect up here.