 From the male perspective, what can we do to start to deal with what we've talked about this entire episode and in this masculinity, I hate to use the word crisis, but this viewpoint that masculinity is wrong, negative to be avoided. I mean, the first thing I would say is don't panic in the words of Douglas Adams, because I honestly think that the tide is turning somewhat, and I also think the marketplace is going to speak. Actually, it turns out that a lot of women, and here I'm talking about straight women or bisexual women, actually kind of don't mind men being a little bit male in constrained and mature ways, right? And so I'm seeing that start to play out a little bit just like in my own son's life because actually the market will start to clear a little bit around this, I think. So we shouldn't panic. Second thing is we shouldn't count out to some of the extremes of left or right, like toxic masculinity or toxic femininity or feminisms to blame and so on. We don't have to, we can just, just don't play the game. Again, I've learned a lot from my own sons here. They're just like, they'll watch me, it's watching some YouTube video from somebody that said, dad, just don't watch it. Come play some video game with me or come out and throw a frisbee with me. And I'm like, wait, why is it my son's teaching me how to avoid polarization? But I think that that generation are really quite getting quite good at it. They're getting quite good at this is just BS. Why, why are you falling for this stuff, dad? And they very often go through a kind of Ben Shapiro for a phase or whatever. And then they usually come out of it. In fact, I've come to believe that Ben Shapiro phase is virtually a rite of passage in and of itself for American young American men. But they always almost always come out and they realize who he is and what he's doing and they learn. And I think this last point about institutions is super important. So institutions that signal how to mature, how to be as men and women and just as good citizens are hugely important. And clearly religions can play a bit of a one stop shot role around that, right? But a couple of, and at least actually some new work out from Brad Shetty showing that religious institutions are the only places where people are most more likely to make friendships across social class lines than within their own class. Everywhere else, it's within class lines. But every church denomination in the US, with one exception, has what they call a man gap. In other words, there are many more women going to those churches and there aren't men. So even in church, you're seeing something of a retreat from men and there are fewer men, in some cases, dramatically fewer men. Partly this is an aging thing in those places. And so whether it's church or synagogue or Boy Scouts or after school clubs or whatever, it's like the, one of my main messages to men in particular is get in there, do it, be involved, actually be a role model for those young men and boys. I was a scout leader myself for a few years. It's like, just do it. And so, and the hunger and the need for it is huge. We do need our fathers. We do need our men and we do need our boys. We need them to have a good life and a good society. And so it's like, really, we need you. It's like that old war poster, isn't it? Like, you're needed. I mean, it's absolutely true. You are needed and can step in because to some extent it ain't going to happen on its own. And some of the sort of semi-automatic rituals and semi-automatic scripts that used to be in existence aren't there anymore. So I guess my main conclusion from this is that it's going to take work. We have to work on this and we have to work on it together. So we have to do it. It is not going to fall into our laps.