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Hitchens on "Line drawing" Religions

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Published on Oct 2, 2011

For thinking that his "a la carte" selection of various religious principles is not also a man made moral framework and is inherently better than secular moral teachings which he seems to imply are incapable of raising children as decent, respectful and self-restrained members of society.

This is a snippet from the 2007 Intelligence Squared Debate on whether we would be better of without Religion. Full debate here: http://www.intelligencesquared.com/ev....

If, for whatever reason, that video does not work very well for you then the debate can be found as a series starting here: (There are 17 parts) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R6Yiz...

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Paul T Sjordal
All Christians pick and choose which parts of the Bible they will follow, even the so-called literalists. Even the literalists make excuses for why they can't, won't, or shouldn't follow this or that piece of bad moral advice in the Bible. This proves that Christians are more moral than the Bible. The source of their morality is themselves, not the Bible, because they are the ones picking and choosing which parts of the Bible to follow. They are not good people because they follow the Bible, they are good people because they were already good people before they even picked up the Bible. If the Bible were the source of morality, then we would still practice slavery, still kill people who eat shellfish, still kill women who are not virgins on their wedding night, etc.
marcsilcockfan1989
@needicecream100 Hehe! In an Austin Powers voice! lol Yah! Baby!!!
gurufabbes1
@ImagesByDavid Whether you've lived in Israel or not doesn't mean you have a clue about Judaism. Plenty of secular Israelis don't have the slightest clue about their own religion, in a widely non-religious state. A non-circumsized man born to a Jewish mother, who has lived his entire life as a Christian is still Jewish and no rabbi will tell you otherwise.
gurufabbes1
@ImagesByDavid Look man. You clearly don't know about Judaism and seem to think the rules that other religions apply to themselves also apply to what goes on for Judaism. It doesn't. I suggest you spend some time doing some research. Judaism and Jewish law are clear on both fronts: A person can practice Judaism and not be Jewish, and a person can not practice Judaism and still be Jewish.
gurufabbes1
@ImagesByDavid And even a complete militant atheist such as Christopher Hitchens, nomatter what he says and nomatter how much he might criticize Jewish practices and disavow any faith at all, will not be able to make Jews consider anything less than one of their own. It's not 'pushing' a religion, it's the simple definition of what a Jewish person is. It's an identity you can't get rid of in Judaism.
gurufabbes1
@432ps1 Just what we need, some foul mouthed anti-Semite that did not get into any of the points I raised. I deeply respect Christopher Hitchens and although he never identified himself as Jewish, according to Jewish law he was born and died a Jew. I think it is to our credit that such an intelligent and articulate man is enumerated among us. Get a life.
gurufabbes1
@lapugenero Again, my comment seem to have attracted 3 angry knee-jerk responses. I think most of you fools are resourceful enough to access wikipedia: According to Jewish Law, every person join to a Jewish mother is automatically Jewish and recognized as such. Going even beyond that as to my comment, his genes as well would thus be Jewish. 'Judaism' is not a religion, but is a essentially a nationality, a form of peoplehood, and to compare it to a Christian relig. definition is ridiculous.
gurufabbes1
@MrNisse5 Look you idiot. According to Halakhah (Jewish Law), any person born to a Jewish mother is Jewish, PERIOD. Whether you or anyone else, likes it or not. How about instead of stupid knee-jerk reactions, you come up with an intelligent response. You may think you're smarter than everyone else, but with answers such as that one, you clearly aren't.
gurufabbes1
The answer Christopher Hitchen's gave was way out of proportion and did not answer what was asked. Very possibly he simply forgot what was originally said. He asked whether the ideas of having a fixed tenet of moral conduct which he personally derives from Judaism should be acknowledged as a positive, limited application of the wider religion which he doesn't entirely follow. He didn't at all say that atheists couldn't do so.
gurufabbes1
@ImagesByDavid It is not. Judaism cannot be and has never been defined as just a religion. It's attached to a people, a race and their set of common history and traditions. It's a gross simplification to define it as religion. A person can practice Judaism and not be Jewish, and a person can not practice Judaism and still be Jewish.
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