 President, we'll be right with you outside. We're getting him. Just a moment. This is Lyndon Johnson. I had a call from you and I tried to reply to it a couple of times. Savannah and different places. They said you were traveling and I got to traveling last night. I just got out here to meet the Prime Minister of Canada this morning. I had a moment and I thought maybe we better try to reply to your call. Well, I certainly appreciate the time that's all that I don't want to take. But that's a good sign. I'm sure it'll be great to try. I'll tell you what our problem is. We've got to try with every force at our command, and I mean every force, to get these education bills that go to those people under $2,000 a year income, a billion and a half, and there's poverty that's a billion and a half, and there's health that's going to be $900 million next year, right at the bottom. We've got to get them passed before the ambitious forces are concentrated and get them a coalition that can block them. Then we have got to, so we won't divide them all and get them hung up in the filibuster. When we get these big things through that we need, Medicare, education, I've already got that hearing started at 22nd in the House, 26th in the Senate. Your people ought to be very, very diligent in looking at those committee members that come from urban areas that are friendly to you to see that those bills get reported right out because you have no idea, it's shocking to you how much benefits they will get. There's $8,500,000,000 this year for education compared to $700,000,000 when I started. So you can imagine what effort that's going to be and this one bill is a billion to have. Now if we can get that and we can get a Medicare, we ought to get that by February. Then we get our poverty, that will be more than double what it was last year. Then we've got to come up with the qualification of the voters. That will answer 70% of your problems. If you just clear it out everywhere, make it age and read and write. No tests on what Chaucer said, or Browning's Portrait or Constitution or Memorizing or anything else. And then you may have to put them in the Post Office. That's Postmaster, that's a federal employee that I control. They can say he's local, he's recommended by the congressman, he's approved by the senator. But if he doesn't register, everybody, I can put a new one in. And it's not an outside Washington influence, it's a local man. The Post Office likes to buy a stain. Now I haven't thought this through, but that's my general feeling. I've talked to Attorney General and I've got them working on it. I don't want to start off with that any more than I do with 14B because it wouldn't get anything else. And I don't want to publicize it. But I want to just know the outline of what I had in mind. Well, I remember the other day. Well, your statement was perfect about the votes, important, very important. And I think it's good to talk about that. And I just don't see how anybody can say that a man can fight in Vietnam. But he came both in the Post Office. Yes, Mr. President, I think it is a main conversation. With me, the first move I made was to put one on the Security Council and to put one in the charge of every bit of the information and went to all of the 120 nations and taken out of an important ambassador post. And I am trying my best to get to the housing and urban and city problems which is the number one problem in America as I see it made into a cabinet post. I have a good chance of getting it done unless I get tied in with a racial thing. I'm going to concentrate all of the executive power I can to get that done. I'm pretty halfway committed to putting in a weaver who I consider to be a very able administrator and done a good job and who we respect pretty highly. And I'm trying to bring in others as assistants and devotees. I talked to them no longer in two hours ago about trying to get one in charge of maybe African affairs if Williams left. I don't know whether you know him or not, but I'm just giving consideration. I don't want to get it around, but it's this fellow Carter that runs an African desk at the Peace Corps. Do you know him? I just don't know him well. He's very, very able and we've got George Weaver over in the Labor Department and I'm bringing him in Justice Pass again. I gave Carl Rowan the top job over, I would guess, eight out of the ten people I talked to felt like that I had problems there. But up to now, he sits with the Security Council on everything. He participates just like Secretary of State and I'm going to, I don't want to make a commitment on it because I don't want to get tied down to the Congress, but I'm going to shove as strong as I can to get the biggest department there. Housing, urban affairs, city, transportation, everything that comes in that department that involves the urban areas of America in one department. And then if I can get that done without having to commit one way or the other, my hope would be that I could put the man in there and probably it would be Weaver because I think we have a more or less a moral obligation to a fellow that's done a... He's done a good job and he hasn't disappointed anybody. If we put somebody into a job and he failed, we lose three steps when we go ahead one. And I haven't had any of that if you'll notice it. We haven't had any mistakes or any corruption or any scandals of any kind. And I've moved a man, I mean, by the wholesale, both women and men. That's a very good public reception. I have seen where they considered Whitney for... Whitney Young for a place with a cop job, with Sriver. He's running two shows and maybe as a kind of associate director with Sriver with the poverty group. I thought that ought to get underway a little bit. I don't know what Sriver said about it. I have a very high regard for Whitney. I like him. I don't feel. I honestly don't feel that with Roy Wilkins or with you or with Randolph or with the man from Coer that meets with us I don't really think I have a moral obligation to any of them like I have to Weaver who's been in there. And it's kind of like you've been an assistant pastor of your church for ten years with the understanding of your decans that you would be take over and then they lose and they don't get to make a pastor and then you continue to carry on and then finally when a good day comes they say, well, you get back to sit at the second table. I just don't feel like saying that to Weaver. Weaver's not my man. I didn't bring him in. He's Kennedy man. But I just think that there'd be a pretty revolutionary feeling about him. Roy is not my man. He's a Kennedy man. But he's got the biggest job in government and it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a job. He sits with the captain every time. He sits with the security council every time. And I did it the first month I was in office. I don't throw it around to cause him to be attacked by his appropriations because the Southerners handle him. McClellan handles his appropriations. But after we get by pretty well this year and I get this reorganization through I will not only have people like Weaver and Carter and undersecretaries places but we'll have Roy and head there and we'll have Weaver and perhaps some other folks on the order of Whitney and whoever you are. Thanks, Bill. I do too. I do too. You know he's worked very closely in our in our equal employment and he's done a very good job in about 60 cities where his people have branches on the employment. I rather think that that that there's been substantial progress. Not enough. I rather think he's been substantial progress with industry on a higher level. Don't you? I think. Every corporation I talked to and I talked to about 30 of them yesterday. They are looking for our Negroes that can do the job that a George Weaver does or a Carl Rohingya does or a fellow like Weaver does. If we have some of them and if you have some of them and you get them to Hobart Taylor we can find companies that will use men of that quality. When they get in they can look after the ones blowing like you looking after your people. There's not going to be anything though doctor. All of them. I don't get you a message at all the eloquence in the world.