 So, hello, I'm Mera Gdushek, I'm with the World Economic Forum. A warm welcome to this concluding press conference of the fourth meeting of National Security Advisors on Ukraine's peace formula, which took place today here in Davos, co-chaired by Switzerland and Ukraine. Obviously, discussions were held on the points of the formula and also pathways for next steps. Now, with me here to share with you takeaways and next steps are members of the Ukrainian delegation at the meeting, so it's my honor now to all introduce you. Andrey Yermak, head of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine, Yulia Sverdenko, First Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Economy of Ukraine, Rustam Umarov, Minister of Defense of Ukraine, Denis Malyuska, Minister of Justice, and Andrey Kosyan, Prosecutor General. We would have remarks from Andrey Yermak and Yulia Sverdenko at the beginning and then we would, of course, welcome questions. So let me start with you, Andrey Yermak, if you can share with us key takeaways and next steps. Thank you. Thank you very much. First of all, I'd like to say sorry for a little bit delayed, dear journalist, and thank you for your attention for this so important event. And I'd like to start this and say thank you, Switzerland, for hosting this event that's meaningful and crucial for all humankind. And I need to emphasize that Mr. Borgheberende, Ignacio Cassis, and Klaus Schwab and their teams make every effort to bring nations together for dialogue and peace in Ukraine. Today we have the fourth meetings of the national security and political advisers. There is, today was over 80 participants and inter-countries and international organizations. And this event, it was logical continuation of our meeting in Copenhagen, Jeddah and Malta. They gathered again to develop the ways to implement an international plane based on the Ukrainian peaceful formula. In Malta, we discussed the first five points of the peaceful formula was where nuclear security, food and energy security, the release of the prisoners and deportees, the restoration of territorial integrity and sovereignty. And here we work on the five points that includes the withdrawal of the Russian troops, the restoration of justice, environmental security, preventing and recurrence of the war, and confirming and the end of the war. Besides we have two very important specific panels of our agenda. They focused on the food security and humanitarian issues. We have open and very constructive talks. We discussed in detail the key principle in reaching a comprehensive, just and lasting peace for Ukraine and the world. I honestly can say, yes, we are very joined in the main principles of independence, territorial integrity, sovereignty and norm of international law and status of United Nations. Of course, it's very important and we have very respect that all participants very involved in this procedure. It will be not true if I said that everybody absolutely in the same positions. And this is good because you know the unique formula, unique plan, it's the combination of the different position, different thought. But once again, very principle that we are very united in the main principles in which based the international law and status of United Nations. To conclude, I would like again to thank the Marga Wolstrom and Baroness Helen Kennedy, both my co-chairs in the international working group in the environmental and returning illegally deported children, joined us today's events along the Ukrainian delegations. We still have much work ahead, but we all of us in the same page and in really encouraging. And in the end, I'd like to say that these two years, practically we are very close for the two years of this terrible war. And I'd like to say that Ukraine living, Ukraine fighting and Ukraine obviously win this war. Thank you. Thank you so much. Over to you, First Deputy Prime Minister. Thank you, dear colleagues. So I would like to emphasize on one of the steps that we discussed during the Peaceful Formula Meeting. It's food security, I think, one step that united over itself at least 40 different countries. Because Russia targeted not only Ukrainian, but people globally. And it's targeted not only people that live in Ukraine, but thousands of kilometers away from Ukraine. So the mine lands, the destroyed storage, and the blogger navigation, all these results and deficit for aggregate and in increasing the prices worldwide. And we discussed during the meeting of Peaceful Formula and I've provided the statistic that after the invasion, the prices jumped to record level. For example, the price for wheat jumped over $400 per ton. And the most strategic consequences, of course, it's for a number of people that suffering from uncertainty because of insecurity. And this number of people increased from 2021 million to 324 million people. So we discussed it and we discussed our common efforts that can help us to implement the food security issue. And we discussed very concrete things. And I think it's very important that all our meetings of national security. So we have worked out very concrete plan. And therefore, we need to demand Black Sea. We need to provide insurance for the vessels. We need to provide a more anti-missiles and anti-drone system for the port infrastructure. And of course, we need to increase capacity of food aid to the most vulnerable consumers. And it's something that we discussed and something that we unite countries over this step. And I would like also to add and to finish with the fact that like Andrey Yermak said that Ukraine keep fighting, keep working. And during the first year of invasion, the Ukrainian economy has fall up to 28 percent. Last year has shown that Ukrainian economy has grown up to 5 percent. And we keep fighting fast. It's existential war because Russia has choice to fight or not to fight, wouldn't have this choice. And that's why it's extremely important to involve as much country as it's possible. And we're pleased to admit that each time we meet discuss this peaceful formula, the quantity of countries increasing. So that's why it's extremely important to have the next meeting and to have very concrete practical outputs from these meetings. Thank you. Thanks so much for these opening remarks. And I'm opening the floor. The meeting is in English. And you can, of course, address questions to all the panelists here if you can always say your name and your organization. So the gentleman here and then the gentleman there. Thank you very much indeed. My name is Steve Sedgwick from CNBC. Mr. Yermak, I was in Kiev at the time of the Russian invasion of Crimea back in 2014. I've seen the country's fight over the last 10 years and especially over the last two years. But to me, I'm afraid it is not obvious what you say that Ukraine will necessarily win. Do you have grave concerns that actually the Western support, both in Europe with delayed financing on the back of what Mr. Orban is doing at the moment, but also in the United States where there are grave concerns about what could happen after the next presidential election in terms of support and their concerns obviously under the current Congress about the level of support as well. Do you need to actually now start expanding the peace talks and actually getting to the table with the Russians because otherwise this could be a frozen conflict that could last another 10 years potentially. Thank you very much for your questions. First of all, this president, this his team, we never agreed and never accept any frozen conflict. First, it's not acceptable by Ukrainian society and of course by the presidents and his team. The second, you know, when you are living every day in the world, then you go to sleep and not sure that you wake up because we are over every night, every day of attacks of the missiles and drones and you can see, you can see what happened 29 of December of the second of the January. It's mean that we are living in reality. I'm not thinking about some imaginations and I can say very concretely after the visit of President Zelensky at the end of the last year and the visit of the our delegation several times in the United States and during the meetings in White House, in Congress, with both parties, with the speaker, in state departments, talking to the expert, talking to the people who exactly know American policy. We back these positive feelings and we hope and believe that finally the questions of the voting for the new budget for Ukraine for support will happen. I'm very positive also looking for the adoptions of the 50 billions from our European colleagues and friends. You know, these two years of our fighting, you can little bit back for beginning and you know, happened so many things which has the evidence. It's not my, you know, it's not just my emotion. Then I said, I'm sure that we win. You can remember the first days and I'd like to say that we started to receive the weapons, the ammunition in some months of the beginning. But during this period of time, our people, our brave nations, be able to liberate the Kievan region, to stop the Russian army, to not give the opportunity to occupy full our territories. And don't forget the results for today of these fighting. We already liberated about 50% of the territory which was occupied from 24 of February 2022. We are practically stop any activity and now Russian fleets are transferring from Crimea to the another place. This year, we not give opportunity to Russia to occupy any particular city or town. Yes, we continue hard fighting. Yes, just in these seconds, our heroes continue fighting in Avdeevka, near of Bakhmut, this small city which many people in the world didn't know this name before this war. One year, billions, 100,000s of the military of Russia, criminals from Wagner's, which was just Wagner's was destroyed about 20,000s around Bakhmut. Still, they didn't occupy it fully this city, in which not exist any survived buildings. We open you grain corridors. We not listen black mails from Russian site. And now these corridors, it's working. As I said, first Prime Minister of Ukraine. It's not just belief. I think we show, Ukrainian nation show during these two years, what we able to win. Of course, with the help and support of our partners, our friends. And I believe that this support and this help will be continue. Thank you. Thank you. It was the gentleman there and then the lady here. Sebastian Ausweck, Swiss television. Just a question, Mr. Yarmouk. You said there were broad consensus today for your principles, for your demands, but as far as I understand, there is not a common declaration of the countries present in this force and the same meeting. Why is it not possible to have a common declaration if there is broad support? First of all, when we started this format, I'd like to repeat that for us it's most important to listen. It's very unique examples in the international diplomacy. Then our president, Vladimir Zelensky, proposed, settled and to found the solution and to end this war, not by negotiations on the table, by some not clear transparent. He said, I'd like to show how it's possible to invite all countries. Doesn't matter. We, of course, we can't have the same position for 100%. But once again, it's important that all the country who was in the table during all these meetings respect Ukrainian independence, Ukrainian sovereignty, Ukrainian territorial integrity in the international recognized border, respect international law, and respect statutes of the United Nations. But, of course, we have the different thoughts. How it's possible to do it? Somebody think that it's necessary immediately sitting at the table of negotiations, and we very clear, very openly explain why now it's not acceptable. Because myself, I personally participated in the negotiations in the Normandy and Minsk format, and from up to the 24th of February, we have over 200 rounds of these negotiations. The doubt, common plan of responsible countries. Results, you can see. As why it's very important to listen everybody, because, you know, Ukraine needs not frozen conflict. Ukraine needs just peace. And Ukraine want to prevent any potential aggressions in the future. And use this opportunity. I want to share with you our great news, which happened two days ago, then President Zelensky and Prime Minister Rishi Sunak signed the first agreements of the Security Co-operations, which based on the Vilnius declarations, which already we have on the board, more than 30 countries who is joined. And this work, it's continued. It's dialogue. And I'm sure the numbers of the country, we started from about 20 countries. Today, we practically have the numbers of the countries of the General Assembly. And it's a very good that we sitting in one table, we talk openly, concretely. And Ukraine have the very open, very honest positions. We're ready to answer to any questions. Thank you. Thank you. It was this lady there, then you there. I have a question to Mr. Umerov. Do you have sufficient personnel and weapons to win this war as Mr. Yarmak was saying? I would just clarify then. Strategic goal of Ukraine is to get to the 1991 war. Military goal could be different. And sufficiency always requires what your enemy will do. If Russians will continue pressurize, if they will be continued not being touched by sanctions, they will be, the oil and gas will be bought, and steel and metals will be bought, chemicals and minerals will be bought, and all the materials from them will be bought. Of course it will require more resources from us. We will be fighting until we get to the strategic goal, and we're ready to continue, and we need the partner support for it. Thank you. Thank you. It was the lady here, and then the gentleman over there, and then the gentleman here. Thank you very much. Sasha Vakulina, Euronews, Pana Yarmak. You said previously that it is important to get as many countries on board as possible. Has Ukraine been working on getting China on board as well for the peace formula? And how has this process been going if you could share a little bit? In other countries, have you been trying to get on board for the peace formula? Thank you. Of course. Again, for us, it's important that all the countries who are in the same principle with us will be on the board and in the table. Of course, we invited China, and you know that in the beginning, in the level, because our peaceful formula now exists in three levels. First levels, it's the meetings which we have in Kyiv in the level of ambassadors. The second in the level, the meetings in the national security and political advisers. And the highest level, it's the leaders. China sometimes participated in the level of ambassadors and was in Jeddah. Unfortunately, in Malta and today here, where is not the representative of China, we invited, we will continue to invite. For us, important that China will be in the table and we're looking that in the future, China will be participated. Because it's important influence country and of course, maybe it's, and we continue this work to explain because honestly, you know, it's necessary that the mostly country in the world know the truth, what happened, because we're living in the atmosphere of the lot of Russian propaganda and narratives. And sometimes the country not get the absolutely clear and real information, what happened, how started this invasion, for what Ukrainian fighting and what our goals, why we not accept today any negotiations. It's necessary to explain and we are not tired to continue this work. And of course, we will be happy. I'm very happy that today numbers of the country already increased and we continue this work and I'm sure that this number will be grow up because, you know, what show this war and Ukrainian fighting that the mostly, and this is extremely important, the mostly ordinary people around the world they made a choice. They want to be in the sight of good and in the sight of peace. And this is extremely important. Thank you. Thank you. It was the gentleman there. Always if you can mention your name and organization, it was then the gentleman there. Laurel Siro for the Swiss Newswire. Mr. Yermak, you said there is much work still ahead, but as we understood, this one was supposed to be the last in a cycle of NSA meetings. So what will be the next steps and are the conditions ripe for that global peace summit at the leaders level that you would like to see, when and where, and yeah, how many support of leaders for such a gathering that you already have. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. Today we are close to the presentations of the all 10 points. Very important to understand that of course our goal to have the common plan. It's mean that in the end, in the results, it will be common plans, not Ukrainian common plans of responsible country of the world. And next steps, we are looking to organize the first inaugurated summit in the level of the leaders because our philosophy to have two summit. In the first, we started procedure and open the next nine separate international conference summit in the different levels. Advisors, Minister of Foreign Affairs, speakers, parliamentarians, experts, which will be concentrated by each nine points of the peaceful formula. Working groups already done big part of this work, but in this events, in this conference, will be finalized nine parts of future common plan. And in the second summit in the level of the leaders, we have in the table the plan which we can penalize, fixed, and if country. For today, I can say only terrorist country, aggressor country, but if in that moment this country will be really not talking about peace and not talking about some negotiations, but really demonstrated will to end this war, to back to the respect of international law and the status of United Nations, we will have to this moment the plan because conversations for conversations, it's zero results. We have in our history and colleagues a reminder that full-scale invasion two years, but the war, it's 10 years. And I'm sorry, but we have this dramatic, catastrophic experience which we wanted to repeat. Thank you. It was the gentleman here. Hello, yes. Thank you. I'm Jamie Heaton from Associated Press. From Mr. Riedemach. Over here. Over here. Thank you. Hi. Nice to see you again. I wanted to ask you, you mentioned in your tweet on, are your telegram this morning about, how is a good sign that there are new countries, more countries here. Could you be specific as to which countries those are? There was, and what does it mean that there are more countries here? Does it mean that there are more countries that support President Zelensky's plan? Or does it mean that there are more countries that want to get involved in bringing Russia to the table? And just as a final question, picking up on my Ukrainian colleague, President Zelensky is, of course, expected here, as is the Chinese Prime Minister. What's the possibility that there might be a meeting between those, between them here in Switzerland? Thank you. Thank you. Started from the end of your questions. Yes, you know officially that President Zelensky will be here. Honestly, I come yesterday here, and I didn't see the final schedule of the meetings of the presidents. We know that the Prime Minister of China will be as well here. Let's see. About new countries. You know, we have the task of our presidents to make a job which sometimes country making during the, I don't say 100 years, but many years. To make that maximum countries in the world know what is Ukraine and started to develop our relationship with maximum countries which respect our independence, territorial integrity and sovereignty. It's mean that this procedure very quick. And I'm very happy that practically every week we created, we opened, we developed, we fixed, started new relations or reconstruct the relations with new countries with all continents. The last examples, they visited of the President Zelensky in inauguration of the new president of Argentina and I'm very happy that today the representative of Argentina was on the table. By the way, today we have a lot of countries from African continents and we have concrete task and we're working now for the Summit Ukraine Africa. We're working on the Summit Ukraine Latin America. And you know, it's not just the, but of course for us, for all Ukrainians most important to win this war. But we're looking to the future and I'm absolutely sure that independent, peaceful Ukraine in the recognized international, recognized borders it's not just about principle and rules. It's about the direct national interest of the most, mostly country in the world it's about our fruitful cooperation in the future. We have great country, we have great history and you know, we're just today why we're talking about reconstructions we're talking about the future corporations and this is, you know, this is Ukrainian dream which of course need to start from our victory. Thank you. Thank you. It was the gentleman there and then I think you have been also asking for the floor. Alessandro Speciale from Bloomberg News. Mr. Jermak, you were mentioning some disagreements before that have emerged. Could you tell us a bit more about that and what are still the sticking points for the peace formula? What do you mean disagreement? You said that there was broad agreement but there were also some disagreements so if you could tell us. Okay, thank you. I'd like to clarify. You have the same. We not have any discussion about the goal. We not any discussion that it's aggression and Ukraine, the fighting and everybody understand for what we are fighting. It's important that all the countries who is coming they really honestly want to participate and to help to end this war and to bring the peace but there is a different thought idea how it's possible to do and different country have the different experience. Some conflicts in the history was settled by negotiations. Some conflicts looks like settled by negotiations. They started be frozen and we know examples how in 10 years, in 20 years started new war. Some more people killed and we have in our history why we very openly explain we have this experience of negotiations. We spent hours, sometimes negotiations in Normandy formats with our friends, presence, Germany and France. We have records. Once it was 12 hours non-stop without any results. Because if you have the plan which supported which mostly countries say and judge like reasonable like the judge that it's logical these negotiations will be continue without limitations. Especially now after so brutal invasion so brutal crimes which Russian made it in Ukraine. You know it's not so many times many times 80 years from the second world war. I'm sure that anybody in the world can imagine that all the bad things all brutal things back concentrated camp, tortures destroying civilian houses. Just the last bombing. It's nothing about military object. They bombed the hospital, they bombed schools they killed civilians. If you can't imagine what explain people whom we bring back to the from Russian prisons. The minimum which these people lost by weight it's 40 kilograms. It's terrible story which some girls we back and she thanks God born the healthy child in two days. It's impossible for normal adequate person to listen this story about what negotiations it's possible to talk but it's necessary to explain. Sometimes it's very emotional but believe we don't tired and never be tired to protect interest of our country to protect interest of our people and to found if just today it's small percentage that somebody ready to listen to hear you we try 100 times because it's about our country and this is about our future. Thank you. We'll have space for maximum four questions now so it's the lady here and then I think you there. Thank you. Just following up on that Mr. Yermak is Ukraine facing pressure from its allies to offer compromises that are outside the 10 point peace plan particularly potentially abandoning the idea of immediate restoration of Ukrainian rule over Crimea. Thank you. You know the partners already know us and they know that President Zelensky and the people who is participated in negotiations know our positions, respect our positions and believe me I never listen I participated practically in all meetings in the high level including leaders I never listen that somebody from our partners our friends to discuss us any compromise which they exactly know that not acceptable for us including the questions of Crimea. Here my friends and our minister of the defense the person who is Crimean Tatar and who he is from Crimea ask him if he is ready to talk and to forget about his homeland maybe you can say one word. Where are you from? So let's assume that half of your territory has been grabbed by some enemy state and then you've been asked you've been let's say a refugee now and you leave another part of your country and then you get continuously your enemy is hitting you by rockets, missiles half of your population is actually from your occupied territory pass to another part where you live in shelters and then they continue and they say we don't want you to live in here and we will continue killing you. What would be your question? Would you surrender to them? So that's why the same thing to me we will never surrender this is first secondly if ten years ago if ten years ago you ask now how many countries do support us 83 I think at the moment like we visited this conference if ten years ago they have not closed their eyes to what happened in Crimea we wouldn't have Donbas we wouldn't have a full scale invasion so that question should be we should get rid of these questions why if we will tolerate somebody's dignity today territorial integrity the occupants will continue such hostility so that's why it is important for us that rule of law should remain thank you thank you two ladies there and then we'll be one more question so I'll go to this gentleman and then we'll conclude so we have two ladies there OK, I'm Marlin from Swedish newspaper Dagens Industrie a question for Mr. Umero I wonder so there's been reports that the United States is frustrated with the lack of progress for Ukraine's military strategy for 2024 what can you say about the strategy for next year and will you have any conversations with your US counterparts during your time in Davos as head of delegation already mentioned whenever we visit US and other partners all the parties, especially US is supporting us so I think you have to segregate two issues that our strategic objective as I said is to get to 1991 borders our military objectives are always within the plan that has been agreed with partners so we regain 50% of our territory we are freed from Northwestern Black Sea the Russian fleet is moving from the temporary occupied Crimea and we regain the territory for the 2024 plan what is the plan for 2024 it's only Ukraine and its partners now thank you thank you I also had a question yes, Victoria Woldesie from Reuters I'm right next time Mr. Yamak, just a direct question is anybody pushing you to concede territory and second question is it fair to say that you don't believe that negotiation will end this war and if that's true then what will end it if you ask me personally nobody pressed to me about the any compromise of the territories and I didn't know any facts than somebody in the level of the leaders or some politics from our partners and friends just not press just not started discussed because they clearly understand it's not acceptable for us about accusations of course we understand and always in the history the war ended by some kind of negotiations negotiations can be very different sometimes it's capitulations sometimes it's the party reach some agreements it depends of the political will and the goal of Ukraine we not pretended for the any territories in Russia we not started these aggressions with democracy freedom and dependent country we are victim of these aggressions and I'm explain for any conversation it's necessary not just to talk it's necessary to have the plan what we are discussed today and for us it's very important that responsible country judge our plan and say that it's real plan it's realistic plan it's just plan and what I'm listen and today it's more more country in this positions and some country we continue to talk we continue answer to some questions we continue to found some solutions but again if it's negotiations how they draw the troops from our territory how it's to restore the territory international recognized border how to back all our people including our unlegally kidnapped children how to pay compensations how the people who is make these criminals orders and who is execute these crimes will be responsible and in our equations if coming the real moment to talk about this and we have the plan on the table maybe it will be right moment to talk thank you and the last question thank you my name is from in my understanding you are looking for the new summit to be held soon and you are trying to facilitate the summit and set the date and location today so can I understand you couldn't do it as you scheduled and about negotiation you said Russia's aggression give them a pause to upgrade their military and the Russian doesn't want peace they don't want peace so do you believe your peace formula is really realistic and achievable as Mr Zelensky said thank you very much thank you very much I can say we are very ambitious people but realistic and it's not my expectation for today we not just discussed concrete period of time and the place of the peaceful summit and it's not right that we are looking for this and not take this results our goal for today's meetings was presentations of the next five points and working groups and two specific panels and we have very good results of these conversations and now next steps as colleagues ask it's starting to talk to thought about the inaugurated peaceful summit it's mean that this work immediately started when we have finished this successful meetings of today about negotiations can you clarify your question please you know according to the government website you said in the meeting Russian doesn't want peace and they want domination and so the choice is simple either we lose or vanish or win and live on you said so in the meeting and in the meantime Russia categorically denies refused to accept peace formula it's clear so I'm simply wondering if you keep this position as you said is it really achievable to looking forward the peace based on peace formula this is my question thank you thank you very much first of all try to negotiate the rockets and the bomb as why you are absolutely right say and repeat it my words about negotiations and the goal of the Russia for today then president Zelensky coming this idea initiative peaceful formula he didn't thinking about the Russia and about their thoughts and their attitude for this it was about the responsible country and the mostly country in the world responsible and mostly country in the world respect international law and chapter of united nations and the goal of the peaceful formula to concentrate it to united this country and believe me that you can see the results once again the Russia already all the world saw this they have not results they won't they have the blitzkrieg it's not happened two years it's not two days not two months two years and it's mean that you know we continue have the some good results and some very impressed results in the frontline and now force continue fighting and plus positions of the international society the most powerful country from each continent it's a very strong arguments and for Russia and when you think about what will be reactions if they not accept you know sometimes it's once again about grain corridors they not accept they said no this is our condition this is our black males and we listen some voices no it's impossible you have to only go for the compromise it's impossible without the permission of this terrorist country look to reality thank you so much thank you to the panelists for all the engagement today we were also very pleased at the World Economic Forum that this meeting happened here within the framework of the annual meeting this concludes the press conference thank you