 An e-textile demonstrator that shows the stretchability of our conductive tracks that have been added to this existing piece of textile. So we've got various other demonstrators. Here is a glove demonstrator that can be used to detect motion with some tilt switches on the fingers. So, hi, so who are you? I'm Ian Russell, I'm the Chief Commercial Officer of Peretta. And Peretta, you have a flexible, what do you call it, sensor? No, it's a process for, we own a process for adding conductive tracks to existing textiles. So it's a printed process that allows you to create conductive patterns on existing textiles. Those can be used to interconnect electronics on a wearable or any textile. Does that mean you take any finished garment or you take the textile before it's a garment? It could be either, so it could be applied to finished garment or it could be applied to fabric when it's on the roll. It's easier when it's on the roll, right? It is indeed easier. And so, can you show what is happening here? Well, this is a little demonstrator that contains some electronics that shows how you can build the heart rate sensors. If I sort of attach this around my arm here, you can see the green sensor, the green color LED is picking up my heart rate. And we've got an indicator there just showing them. That's not the VW heart, right? It is, yeah, that's my heart rate. All right, so what's the CPU that's going on here? Oh, I'm not the guy to talk about the detail of the electronics. This is really just a demonstrator just to show that you can integrate those electronics. You can make soldered connections to our conductive tracks. And your technology is in here? It is, yes, that's our technology that makes the tracks, yeah. How can we make all this other stuff more flexible and stuff? Well, that's a challenge for really the rest of the industry. The problem that we're solving is how to create conductive tracks on a textile that are flexible, that retain the handle drape of the fabric, that allow the fabric to breathe and so on. So that's really the problem that we've solved. Other parts of the industry are working on sensors, components, power harvesting, all the other pieces of the jigsaw that will be needed to make e-textile wearables. And the markets could be healthcare, defence, elite sports? There are sports, fitness, wellness, elite sports. There are other sectors outside wearables. So in transportation it might be smart upholstery, home furnishings, there are a range of different sectors and applications. And so are you shipping? No, we're working with customers at a sort of prototyping phase and we are looking for strategic partners who are able to take this technology and to operate the process on behalf of our customers. So how long time does it take before all this stuff is nicely used? I think we're talking months rather than many years but it's not weeks, that's for sure. So it just depends on the partnership with the right people? It does, customer pull and partnerships with the right partners to make it happen.