 My father is a Gerald Ford son. But, okay. Yeah. How did that, how does that, I know with the way that everything synodize around him, how does that affect you, like being one here in the inner city? Yeah. I look, like I said, I love my city. So it's a little, it's a gift and a curse. I use that because you get good and you get bad. People take, you know, my grandfather, Gerald Ford, like as you know, some people media wise take it as a negative or a bad thing. When he did a lot of great. Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. My father is a Gerald Ford son. But, okay. Yeah. How did that, how does that, I know with the way that everything synodize around him, how does that affect you, like being one here in the inner city? Yeah. I look, like I said, I love my city. So it's a little, it's a gift and a curse. I use that because you get good and you get bad. People take, you know, my grandfather, Gerald Ford, like as you know, some people media wise take it as a negative or a bad thing. When he did a lot of great. So a lot of times when I run into people, it's love. You know what I mean? Cause it's like, they got love from what he was implicating in the city. You know? My father was the one that stood on business, you know, like period. Like he was, that's why I said like, it was never like he wasn't in the house because he wasn't in the house. Cause every house was his house. In a sense, you know what I mean? And his, and he treated his, the mother of his kids as princesses or queens, you know? So we knew each other. It was, it was just, it was like a kid run up the block and everybody gonna watch him. Yeah. That's how it felt. Yeah. And some of these things like I never, it was never like, it was never a bad thing. You know, he ended up going to jail and doing things like that of course. And that affected us as kids a little, do we know? So your father ended up going to jail? Yeah. He went to jail as well. And when he went to jail, what did that, how did that, how old were you when he went to jail? I was really a baby. Like when I say that like four, five, but I remember. My mom chatted my dad when I was three. That's the end of the living room. I'll never forget it. So, you know, I know you can remember. I heard this before. You heard it when I was talking about one of your interviews and said, yeah, yeah. So that's the, so you can remember. I believe that. And that's real. And that's, and I think that's what's crazy about it because like, so we was born on 53rd in Coppington. Okay. You know, I was raised on that for a little while growing up in the city. And I remember cutting my leg or buying my foot like running to the store, which, you know, in the city we call that Motown. And, you know, but I, and I'm moving from that. And I remember everything. I remember going to see my father in jail. You know what I mean? And I remember crying because I wanted to leave and eat. And I'm the moment I want to come back and I'm off. You know, because I'm ready to eat. But I, you know, I remember it. And I remember it. You know what I'm saying? And I hate that, you know, I used them words at that time, you know? But, it was good, but we get lessons. It was a lot of lessons that we was able to see. We didn't know certain things being youthful. You think you know it all, but you don't know it all. You don't know why these people love you like they love you. Or you don't, you don't know why you got the green light for certain things or just, just that love. So I mean, I felt like due to what they did, like that father figure was always around. Yeah. Yeah. So your grandfather, did you ever go see him? I never went to go see my grandfather. Why? Well, due to a lot of like sister things, like paperwork and him being all the way in Colorado and super max and it just didn't happen. And due to the way they was trying to, you know, and it's just history that I got from my people. Of course. Due to how they was raiding and trying to, you know, arrest him and stuff like that. Like a lot of people, like my mother, she went into kind of like a had in a sense, you know. So for years, we was put up that we thought we was put up, but it was bright and broad daylight. You know, and I mean that like, you know, they say had in plain sight, like that's a tactic. It was really that and I say that because we found out we was right in the heart of things that my mother was like, I thought I got you away from these things. You know what I'm saying? And it was kind of followed you. Exactly. So, but just to ask the question, like it was hard to, so for a long time, like it was like we was trying not to even be around it. You know, my father was still living at the time. And we was, so when he finally got out, like a 90 something or whatnot, like 95, 96, he contacted my mother. He always sent things, you know, out of jail, like paintings and things like that. I don't know how he was paying in jail, but he was sent things, you know, Princess and Princess, this will be my sister. And, you know, I still got him over my fireplace. So was it like, sorry, I'm meeting him for the first time, seeing him for the first time when he got out. It was like I knew him. It was like, I mean, I knew where he was. To be real, like if somebody felt like taking my father away, you know, lock him up and do things like that, was gonna make me feel any different towards him. Like I really felt heroish to him regardless. You know, so when he came home, it was like, I was proud, I was happy. I was, you know, it was like, you know, it was completion. It felt at the time, you know. And we just, I remember him calling my mother, she's a boy 11-something, you know, so. But she was all in church and doing things like that. And I remember when he came home, he contacted her to see us. So she did her 007 type stuff. They meet, she meet him up like she was meeting the money, you know, the gas, meeting the gas. We meeting the gas stations. What's up, what you want to talk about? So, and I remember he got me in the car with him and she almost called the police because she just started driving. See, my mother was, she wasn't admitted but she was spoiled to certain things. So she just started driving late. Okay. You know, so she just started driving, she couldn't keep up with him. Let me ask you this, but the reason she was taking you guys and meeting him like that, was it because of certain situations, the gangs and all the stuff that go with that? Yeah, nothing. You see what I'm saying? It was like, you don't want you to be seen or be a part of something and you're trying to keep it something, keep it kind of detached from it. Trying to keep it protected. Right, exactly. It was definitely us, her keeping us protected all the time, that was her thing. That was her thing, that was his thing. Cause you gotta understand, you guys are from a family where, you know, your grandfather who is, I mean, they look at him as like a patriarch, you know, when it come down to the Black Pea Stone or whoever, you know what I mean? They know this is the history of it. So for you to try to move around and deal with certain situations, she's gonna have that protective covering over you, man. And that was they agreement as well. You know, people don't know that, like that was they agreement to take care of the kids. That's what he asked for, the women of his kids period. He was never like playing the victim in jail type of guy. You know what I'm saying? How long did he stay locked up? You know? I was like nine when he came. So four and a half, about eight years, you know. He wasn't, excuse me, he wasn't out, you know, too long. I would say that, you know, he ended up being murdered himself, you know. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one.