 We like to have these fun sessions every once in a while where we watch some clips or some movies back to back or something that kind of helps get us clearer about our mind and awakening and really come closer to that point of complete involuntary non-judgment which is what the point of all mind training is about. I was watching these clips yesterday and then Francis watched them with me and then we had a nice little discussion but we thought we would just share it with all of you. It reminds me throughout history, especially of the ancient Greeks, they would sit around in the pools and have these wide open free ranging discussions where you could bring up any topic and surely didn't have video clips back then but they certainly had an atmosphere of openness and I think that in terms of a course of miracles there's ten characteristics of a teacher of God doing all this mind training with Jesus and the last one, he said, perhaps the last one to come in is open-mindedness. Isn't that interesting? The final characteristic to be imagined to have a free and open mind where you could just take in everything from a delightful space of just the unification of all that's underneath this world and these kind of clips I think are helpful for that because there are some real passionate people in there that really are loyal to their belief systems and loyal to trying to follow with what they believe is helpful for themselves and others and and then when you kind of juxtapose them some of these are just classic especially like the ones where they're sitting like having a roundtable discussion and one of them has Joel Osteen who is the pastor of the largest church in the United States and Deepak. He doesn't say anything but it's just interesting when you bring together people of different faiths we did watch a movie a while back was called Decoding Deepak and his son was kind of poking at him because he would go on some of these shows and kind of get engaged with the questions and answers and could get a little fired up and these ministers are definitely fired up but I just see it as a good discernment lesson for all of us and maybe we'll have some very nice insights like we had it after Kumari that movie. I think there are three clips I'm gonna show the first one is more about Christian ministers commenting on another Christian minister. The second one is a Christian pastor addressing his congregation basically and the third one is this Christian minister talking to people of different faiths and it's just funny to see the impossibility of trying to channel God's law or words into this world or form and then everybody was trying to prove that they're wrong or they're right or the other but it's a lot of fun so we thought we'd have a very lively discussion afterwards and see what we're gonna bring up. So sit back and enjoy. I wish they'd showed me clips like this when I was growing up in the Christian church it could have been a mind-expanding experience because I'd had a lot of questions. What about what about what about you know and that would have opened up a lot more discussions but like we're always in favor of anything that brings the mind to healing. View is expressed and then the intensity of the expression I think it's all helpful in the sense of it if it just brings you back more and more to the point of like I said hi my name is Sonet so then I have a perceptual problem if you if you start to feel whatever you feel and it may trigger memories of like you said being in front of people and those kind of public questions and inquiries or for just any kind of discomfort with any aspect of it then that's like bringing it back to the mind that's just like really the awakening can only occur if there's first an admission about being wrong about distorted perception long as you are seeing the world in terms of people with private minds and private thoughts and private motivations and ambitions for the future and past regrets and all that it seems to be the everyday human way of looking at the world what seems to be the basic status quo of the filter you know there has to come an admission of I've been mistaken or that that is not that way of perceiving has never brought peace of mind and therefore there must be another way it must be something else and I think that's that's where the helpfulness begins as everyone knows in the Sermon on the Mount Jesus was saying judge not less to be judged but there's also a line in the Course where Jesus says without judgment are all things equally acceptable so you could think about everything that parades across consciousness it's just the divisiveness and the fragmentation in the mind that is where this fear and discomfort comes in and without judgment are all things equally acceptable that sounds a lot like all things work together for good there are no exceptions Jesus says except in the ego's judgment that all things be exactly as they are there's many ways of saying it everything that seems to happen to me I ask for and receive as I have asked but they're all pointing to this unified state of awareness it's very very lovely sounds wonderful but then it comes down to trusting that if you don't start picking things apart and judging things that will it will be more than safe that it will be wonderful to be in a state of prior to judgment prior to the apparent judgments so you know that was part of our discussion was about seeing you can't behave you couldn't possibly draw a conclusion because all the debate all the opinions is just about which behaviors are right which behavior is wrong it's like I think this we were listening to your commentary to the lesson this morning these thoughts do not mean anything it's like before these thoughts even were given meaning there was nothing there was just maybe you know fragmented perception but was meaningless and that engenders fear and then the mind wants to minimize the fear so it started to interpret and give meanings to justify its own existence and the meaninglessness of this world so even all these thoughts the purpose of it is just it's not even about any of it in and of itself it's just to for such a deeper purpose to try to justify the force the force so knowing that I feel you know any of the judgment any of the thoughts any of the meaning given to any perception is just it's all equal there is no better thought so you know it's all equal and I feel like yeah just the third clip just seeing the impossibility of trying to be right in this world in this perceptual world trying to say what is God what is God in this in this fragmented reality what is God's will what is God's law here how you behave you know it's just impossible because I feel that even with the course a lot of people are actually caught in that kind of same confusion as well like it's all about behavior is like even with the metaphysics in the course the most natural way is to be applied to behavior level and saying am I doing it right or am I doing it wrong and which way it's right and which way it's wrong and just you know it's like so much deeper what is what is truly given by Jesus is so much deeper you know and it's only through experience so it's like okay we watch this and watch our minds wants to engage and I you know you will notice this mind wants to know whether opera was right or wrong just wanting to find something in this world the temptation of trying to give meaning to this world and it's so much deeper that we're asked to let let it all go like really trying to leave lift beyond that there is any meaning in this world there's any meaning in any opinion whatsoever and come to an experience it's so fragmented like God wants this way this way this specific way that I can summarize in language and is this particular thing is right and anything else is wrong it's like wow that talking about bring truth to the illusion but when I watch the second clip I actually feel I don't know I felt something with him I actually felt something that maybe it's just the radical how radical the message is and how we need to not compromise anything like it's there's a very deep uncompromised that's been caught upon it I can feel with that pastor actually but when he actually specifies things in a very concrete term and saying this is red it's like but there's something spirit behind it I can feel it yeah just starting to see the reflections anything that will take the mind into the space of just seeing oh I'm just perceiving what I'm believing you know just I'm just seeing reflections of thoughts like today I got up early in the morning 435 to do the reading from the course and then the workbook lesson and workbook lesson I read was number four these thoughts do not mean anything and then later in the day I think later in the morning I looked at my newsfeed and it was Oprah's Super Soul Sunday welcomes Eckert and I was kind of wonder what their topic is so I clicked on that and his studio audience had written in to Oprah to ask Eckert a question and the question was how do I still the voices in my mind yeah it was an interesting reflection I heard him being on Super Soul Sunday for the longest time apparently he wasn't and just on that lesson that was a reflection today but you start to take everything as a reflection of your mind then it starts to take it out of that context of whether it's judged good or bad or right or wrong or helpful or unhelpful it's like those are pointless questions ultimately if everything you perceive as a reflection of your mind you're just getting what you're asking for that's how it works the mind is so powerful it just sends out like it look at calls and draws forth witnesses and if you start agreeing and disagreeing with the witnesses then you're still denying that it's all just your thoughts and if you start to bring it all the way back to mind then the real question comes down to who am I serving or what is my purpose or what is my goal you know at a mind level you see how that starts to simplify everything that's where you can focus the practice what am I aligned with what am I serving what what purpose do I hold forth and takes the whole looking to the world for answers and meaning it just pulls the plug on that I remember that movie Joe versus a volcano where Joe finally makes it to I think it's California and he meets this the Meg Ryan character says she's a Liberty Joe but he's talking to her they're sitting in a car and they're out in the evening and everything and I think and she's there with him and he's talking maybe it's that or maybe it's a dinner table or something but he says something and she says I have absolutely no response to that and I it's an interesting line I absolutely no response to that but it would ultimately it's where is it coming from if it comes from a place of clarity where you see that basically you have no response good or bad or right or wrong anything than that's where you start to realize it's not outside there's no need to justify respond think of all the energy and time that goes into taking the side or justifying something explaining something how many of us have grown up and we had somebody come up in our face and say explain yourself like we really believe we have to or that it's necessary you know but to come to a deeper state of mind where there's there is no needing to justify things or explain just to come into guidance living a guided life living an inspired life without any justifications or explanations and it's mind training you can tell even around here we talked about no people pleasing no private thoughts that's our guidelines to help things come up and out but but even in terms of guidance or expression sessions or anything like that you know it's you really get to look at if there's any thoughts or reactions that go on in the mind and if there is like a reactive thought or a reaction in terms of an emotional sense and it's like huh you could just note and chalk it up to I still I still must believe in externals why would I be concerned why would it be upset about something that was said or done or a rule you can't do this you can't do this why would I even care unless I still had a faith in the external unless I still was looking out to the world for meaning and wanting to make sure I get it right did I get it right what did they say you know there's still that kind of concern and that's what's getting rinsed rinsed away washed away yeah we have someone from China who just met us like a few years ago and then she just sent a Skype message recently a couple of days ago and saying is is your is David's teaching still no private thoughts and no people pleasing or is there anything new and and we talked about and we said you know no private thoughts and no people pleasing is a start and the next one is no private mind that's that's that's what it is like that's where it's leading to no private mind that is the experience of there is no external you know and see that is if there's anything is out of this desire to still be small and still be you know something that is separated from the external world and then everything else is put on to that desire interpretation and being a victim and all that but that's that's where we're heading no private thoughts no people leaving no power in mind no private minds eating there's only one mind and there's no world apart from that line because we I went out there just to sit finishing up on lunch at the very end I pulled up my iPhone and I showed this little clip from Facebook of these two women who had like a camera and like a timer on the camera so they had probably set it up they pushed the timer thing like the so they could run and get into the photo and so you can see the two women running in slow motion towards this rock they're gonna both run it's a very slow motion they run into the rock and then they jump on the rock and then they kind of hold hold arms and then they are posing for the thing to go off and then we asked before that the picture takes you know because it's all actually like a video so it's just a set of it shows the dog with the dogs jumping up and his face goes over the whole screen and then after that it goes off and then it's just a blank thing it said Amy who was one of the women Amy had the thought of photobombing you know somebody tries to bomb a photo Amy had the thought of photobombing which I thought there it is again it's just a little quantum teaching on Facebook that it wasn't if it's supposed to be funny that the dog jumped in and blocked the shot you could barely see the two women in the back by the rock as the dogs very innocent-looking face is looking into the camera and that's being what you see but that thought of the Amy had a thought about photobombing that was just showing the quantum that everything's just a thought it's not like the two women had thoughts of their minds of their own and the dog had a mind of the son that was just a thought of photobombing and that was a representation and interpretation of a photobombing that's why they always say be careful what you pray for you know because the mind is so powerful and it's just constantly imagining things and and it's always receiving whatever message is it sending whatever it is thinking and believing it's perceiving and that's the whole point of of course a miracles workbook is to show you that the thoughts that you think you think and the world that you think you see are not different there's not a private mind that has these little thoughts whirling around and the giant external cosmos that is outside thoughts and images but my thoughts are images I made it's one of his early connecting lessons where he starts off with perception perception lessons and it comes in with a thought lesson then back to more perception lessons with some feelings thrown in and then back to thought but the whole point of 365 lessons the workbook is just to see that there's no world apart from what you think or oddly that these aren't real thoughts these imagination thoughts aren't real thoughts and the world that they seem to show the images are not real either but the identity of being a human requires that you believe you have your own private mind distinct from other minds and very distinct from the world Hiroshima a nuclear detonation goes off you know it's like we're once watching on their rolls TV sets seeing this mushroom cloud go up but when you start to apply the course my thoughts are images I have made you start to realize that there that nothing in the perceived world is actually happen it's just an experience of these unreal thoughts that the sleeping mind is having believing that there are externals that's that's why people why are children a little concerned when they go to a brand new school and have to meet new teachers a new principal new classmates there's little things anxiety there's an anxiousness there with meeting new people new people not known people new ones it's and then even in the ones that are known you know more homicides take place within families of those known ones those loved ones turn out to be the murderers there's more homicide that occur in those kind of context the emotions are so highly charged but it's the sense that that there's a self and there's others and that there's an inner and an outer even more deeply in there there's this distinction between an inner and outer so that's really what the whole thing's pointing for it towards is that it's all one mind and there are no thoughts apart there's no world apart from what you think there's people apart from what you think that people are not really autonomous individuals with their own private minds and private thoughts but they're actually thoughts they're they are thoughts next time you're concerned about having someone losing somebody in your life you might just remember this they're thought in your mind you're still in your mind they can't go anywhere you can't you can't really lose something if you're holding on and still thinking of them you know sometimes people say they're gone now they died but but there's still the thought thoughts and memories like the Solaris movie you know the psychologist Chris Calvin you know wait by George Clooney his wife has we find out the committed suicide but he keeps thinking of her is something unresolved his memories tortured by the memory of his wife suicide and he's thinking or thinking over then he goes up to near this planet Solaris where it's kind of a symbolizing you know what you so so show you reap and giving him seeing her the same and the divine law so not only is he thinking of her he's dreaming about her and not only is he thinking about her and dreaming about her but when he goes to bed his friend up there says when you go to bed at night lock your door that's all that's all he tells him nothing more I think I'd like lock my door when you go to sleep so Chris Calvin goes to Solaris he's thinking of his ex-wife periodically he's dreaming of her and then as he's laying there he seems to be having a dream of her a vision of her and then you see this hand come over his shoulder all you see is this hand hand on his shoulder and then he wakes up and he's startled because she's there in bed with him touching him thereby violating the beliefs that the dead and gone are actually dead and gone that's a belief everything is a belief but she was still very much in his mind and was still very much unresolved and as the movie goes on you know you start to see that she's she's like she's like a memory of what what he gave to her you know that's how Jesus tells us this whole projection works we're always perceiving our own thoughts and our own beliefs and our own ideas acted out as if they're not us but it really it's all the mind and it's almost a clever way of projecting like here's an unresolved thought or belief and now conveniently now it's active out as a person as if they really have an actual existence but that's not the case and eventually he has to come to this very humble experience when chris kelvin comes back to earth you know he's still haunted by these experiences that he had about her and you know he he's haunted by this idea that i he says that i remembered her wrong remembered her wrong mainly that he held a past memory a past image of who she was and that wasn't who she really is at all and then finally she shows up again on earth you know at the end of the movie everything is forgiven she says everything and she proceeds it by saying we don't have to think like that anymore that is huge to begin to open your mind to the idea that people aren't people that people have thoughts and that you aren't really locked into limiting relationships you're not locked into limiting scenarios not in you know locked into these limiting externals but really it's just the very belief system that believes in the reality of these things it's taken on like like a Pinocchio that's gone from puppets to real people real men real women real boys real girls like like that's the whole story of Pinocchio going from a puppet to being real but that's part of the delusion of taking things to be real real objects that have real existence and they aren't just thoughts equally thoughts everything Francis was talking about she's been listening to audiobooks of Mary Baker and these science and health of Peter the scriptures and the rancher book and just enjoying those but that's really the thought of Christian science that's the whole people always say are there any denominations in Christianity that are like kind of cool or hidden or kind of lined up I say Christian science there's one one out of hundreds of thousands but but basically the teaching of that the symbol of that is that there's no mind and matter you know and what does that mean there's no mind and matter there's no life true substance intelligence and matter you mean there's there's no such thing as human life exactly exactly that is important what about plant life nope animal life what about Cecil the lion animal life there must be something about animal life nope is that radical no to the ego yes but is it radical no but you know it's like just to open to that idea would be a revolution in the mind talk about healing that would be a revolution that your soon your cares and your worries and concerns would disappear because if it's all mind all equally mind but then there's no inner there's no outer you don't have any more loose ends to wrap up what a struggle to wrap those loose ends but what is that all about quantum forgiveness says no they're they're not really there to be wrapped wrapped up so this this experience you know it's like it's more like just opening up to it saying wow that's show me show me like you were saying you were saying at lunch you know it was Suzanne was asking about the movie mission impossible and we started to explain it and then it just was like wait a minute almost like I can't answer that question it's the whole experience is quantum but if that's the case then there is no movie so you find yourself having a difficult time explaining how the movie was because you like you started it's great great I'm great everything is great you know you've got to get honest you've got to take it full all the way you see because then it's you're not trying to dissect or label the parts and give the valuation of the parts because that's that's the problem bleeding in the parts it's really fun I think it's great some of these clips are really it's a good springboard these clips it's just like in a way they're just a good reminder like as a contrast almost like shakes the mind up it's like whoa whoa like somehow in a very quick way it's just like really this is like kind of almost like do you want that like true is there anything attractive about that any of that right and it's kind of like a good like experience like I definitely not then kind of like then there's like right away there's like a deeper open history like okay show me show me like this is definitely I can't find it there it's almost like a reminder where you cannot find it and the way you cannot find it it's like this it's like been there done that it's almost like oh no like almost like could be like a bit of a fear just like don't want to go back don't throw me back it's like okay then so it leaves you no choice but like but to like show me just like open up like sometimes like and it's better if you see it on the screen like that again it's a time collapse right like let it play out and then it's like oh okay I don't want this just like I show me but it's like sometimes whatever it takes yeah and it's just a reminder it's so vigilant because I was just saying sit like this firmness with the mind training it's kind of like it's such as like it's like a rope you're walking on the rope it's like one step away and you're what's happening who am I like this guy or this guy what am I supposed to watch and whoa kind of like and the whole outer is there is this kind of like but like all of it just comes down to purpose what is it for what is it for every communication really what is it for like you know accept the means but a bit of a like the means are real and there's some kind of like real value in it it's like you're back in like I'm not like like what's happening in the matrix so to speak and it's just back to the purpose what is it for what are you doing for you can indicate the words bend or anything like what is it for and just my family is so clear and so the reflections are like clear and clear and clear and find every so often to or something like that it's just helpful to snap so quickly into like show me show me I really like you know you keep one judgment or one preference those guys better than the other and you keep the whole thing it's like you're in there it's just like it's like please show me like please just like it sounds like there's no other way what's the truth yeah it's like if we have any judgment about anything reality then a clip like that that counters that and you feel all this is like the mind is still in the right and wrong like it's still in the specifics and the calling for us is really just going beyond that like we're not to be right either and we are just to release a constantly release release everything we know that feels helpful actually sometimes there's something just so different than the course and just come in and it's like okay I think I know the truth and it's not so either yeah there's a line in the bible it said all things work together for good those who love the lord I would say for those who are aligned with the lord all things work together for good all things work together for good and then in the course Jesus kind of further clarifies the bible he he says all things work together for good same line from the bible there are no exceptions except to the ego judgment but there are no exceptions so all things work together for good there are no exceptions so but that could only be realized if you see that it's all mind that it's all mind that there actually is nothing physical I mean that's the question I get a lot is all about levels and well there's the horizontal level and the physical level and this and this and this but what if everything is mind everything is equally mind Jesus does say that in the course he said this is a world of ideas he calls it a world of ideas just an interesting phrase world of ideas he doesn't say there's physical ideas and there's official ideas you know you have to start to see that that's what bright mindedness or the unified field is all about is that it's all ideas and it's all equally ideas so if that's the case why how could you react to some and not to others or react to some ideas positively and others negatively if they're all equally ideas in mind that's just that's what consciousness is but there's nothing physical it reminds me a lot too of some of those teachings in the bible I remember you know they had the old testament we had the ten commandments and you know then the new covenant comes along jesus comes along really to clarify the commandments basically says the first two of all the commandments are the most important that's nice it helps a bit from 10 to 2 that's good it means the two most important ones but then some of the stuff that he said people would be like what are you talking about and one of them I was thinking of the other day was one of the ten commandment is thou shalt not commit adultery okay that's one of the commandments then jesus comes along and he starts off with verily verily I tell you the truth if a man has a lustful thought for a woman not his wife he commits adultery well what just happened we just went from the behavioral level of some body cheating on another body to the thought level a man has a lustful thought for a woman not his wife he commits adultery jesus came along and said he just knocked it up to the thought level the thought level not the behavioral level that people would be like reading that in the bible whoa what is that you know these preachers were talking the woman was saying I don't think Jesus was condemning gays or you know this and this but he had some interesting things about purification and eunuchs he called them and eunuchs for the glory of god and all kinds of there's a lot of deep mystical teachings if you go back to the bible you start reading the red letters it's mystical it's very mystical and all the course does is he just clarifies it even further he says oh yeah maybe you think it's mystical but actually it will set you free the truth will set you free so he's explaining that that what is temptation but the wish to make illusions real it's the wish to have a hierarchy of illusions that's what temptation is it's not temptation for chocolate or sex or alcohol or cigarettes or temptation for specific little things that are talked about you know it's it's the wish to have an identity apart from the one that god created it's a wish to make a hierarchy of illusions it's the wish to have orders of difficulty in miracles that's the first principle there are no orders of difficulty in miracles and yet you start to see how deep the rabbit hole goes and how he's calling you know in the bible it was blessed by the pure of heart for they shall see god in the course it's miracles are everyone's right but purification is necessary first he's still coming with the same words he's calling this deep calling to awaken to your true reality and it's all fits together it's all very very very very mystical but it's just what we're talking about here it's just that it's all equally ideas in the mind and the ego has just divided things up into what's mine and what's matter and what's good and what's bad what's right and what's wrong and you can see the debate all it is is a fragmented mind that's seeing witnesses of fragmentation and at some point it has to dawn wait a minute that's right all things work together for good there are no exceptions wow there are no exceptions and he covers that in so many ways like the early lessons i haven't got to them but i'm just about ready to get to them in my progression but um he comes out with one of his lessons um you do not perceive your own best interest that's an interesting lesson i do not perceive my own best interest it's profound enough but you think he'd leave it there but then his next lesson he says everything is for your best interest holy moly it's it's mystifying enough that i do not perceive my own best interest well i can tell from my emotional roller coaster right maybe he's right but then what what did you say in the next lesson everything that's a big word when jesus says everything he usually means everything everything is for your best interest hmm sounds a little bit like all things work together for good sounds a little bit like let all things be exactly as they are how deep that is how profound he's basically saying nothing has ever gone wrong ever it's a step to it never happened is say it's all gone right everything's gone right well if everything's gone right that means there's not been a single tragedy not even a single one a single victimization a single misinterpretation it's all all a state of mind it's all pointing to a state of mind and that's just like a surrender of okay this is my life this is my devotion this is the only thing that i could ever truly come to know so i might as well be open to being shown there we say what's it's the only game in town the only game available is the happy game of non-judgment so that's an invitation to the happy game it's tough the goal of the curriculum jesus says regardless of the teacher you choose is no thyself there's nothing else to seek leaving in the ancient greeks no thyself he's weaving in right in there's nothing else to seek so this is a realm a world where it's even you could hear the minister gone seeker seeker friendly seeker friendly seeker friendly but but you know everyone who seems to come to this world is is the seeker by definition but so we're still left with seek and you shall find knock and the door shall be opened or the ego's plan for salvation don't think the ego would sit back without offering a plan for salvation seek and do not find that's that's the ego's plan so you can tell whether you're in line with god's plan or the ego's plan by whether you're finding or not if you're not finding by definition you're following the imposter and if you're more in amazing grace i once was lost but now impound and that's where the amazing grace comes in you're found in in the lord's plan in the holy spirit's plan of salvation that was interesting that one clip that was in there about opera when she was talking about there are many ways to god it was so funny because i remember it was one of those moments where the holy spirit said turn the tv on right now he said now and i turned it on and it was opera and it was that particular show because i watched a little opera here and there but not like regularly but that show and i thought and i sat down my spirit said now sit down because i was just turned on opera and i saw this big heated exchange going on and the holy spirit said now sit down on the couch so i moved back and sat down and watched the show but yeah they got into the whole discussion was about opening about spirituality and pathways to god and opera was basically making her point that there are many pathways to god and then in that little clip we saw there was someone in the audience contesting her and saying oh no jesus is the only way jesus is the only way to get you saw the woman from there and after that woman said that it was like an explosion of energy hit the whole um tv set you know where she was and the camera started to like shake it totally started to go into entropy started to move to chaos i've never seen an opera show where they hit on such they've hit some my my mom was jerry springer and i mean you see people hitting each other and chasing but i mean the whole audience they they touched upon a deep nerve about whether there's one way to god or there's multiple ways and and then the um i remember i sat there and watched and and it just people started shouting from the audience and the camera started shaking and i thought wow this is this place looks like it's going to explode and then at one point they you know how opera is with her she has to get her commercials and she's in the middle of this they're the most charged thing the cameras are shaking and probably somebody in her tech team motion to her we need to take you have to take a commercial break it doesn't matter if the whole studio is going to explode you've got to get the commercials in there so i remember they they swirled over to move the camera over to oprah and she said jesus if you're there help us and they cut that's what they cut to the commercial was oprah screaming into the camera jesus if you're there help us get cut to a nice commercial and so i watched and then as oprah would frequently do after she let it go with studio audience everything they get they save the last 25 minutes or so to bring on the panel of experts i'm like oh god just watch this thing because they just almost swirled out of control with the audience now they bring and they had all these religiously it's like a rabbi and a priest they had a row of all these religious leaders there and then oprah started to open up the whole thing to the religious the panel of experts i i've started stasening i thought what am i watching this for you know i obviously turned this on told to turn it on for a reason so as i watched the panel of experts the panel of experts got into it really good just like the audience like this was like like a magnet and they started going but there was one guy that was in the middle of the panel of experts that had the biggest smile on his face and never spoke one word he just sat in the middle he'd go and he was just the most glorious that was what the holy spirit said now watch the guy watch him and watch the guy in the middle and he was just he never spoke a single word but he was in total love and agreement with the audience and both sides in the panel but no word was spoken so it was very powerful experience because that's pointing at what we're talking about about all things work together for good there's no point in in taking the side because there are no sides god didn't create science god is a god of oneness god doesn't create duality there are no sides in heaven and that's the lesson that's the one lesson we have is to sort of see that we can never take a side because there aren't a side that will also take you out of this idea of politics it will also take you out of this idea of settling an argument like what argument really ultimately how can where is the argument if your mind if it's all mind and everything's equally ideas there aren't sides and you start to see not that you're praying for an end to conflict but you are coming into an experience of the impossibility of conflict which must be forgiveness an actual experience an actual experience if there's no conflict that's glorious that's truly the point of everything that's the point of Jesus Sermon on the Mount that's the point of the Course in Miracles the point of science and health with key to the scriptures it's all aimed at one experience so that's really what it's about an experience will come that will end your doubting he says he doesn't say a theology will come that will end your doubting he doesn't say belief system will come that will end your doubting he says an experience will come that will end your doubting and