 so many doctors and therapists are not up to date on so many some most of them right even the specialists like yes they are so out of date and so it there definitely needs to be some way of presenting this information to parents with newly diagnosed diagnosed kids um but the doctors maybe are not the the gold standard of research and maybe the what the feedback that they're giving you or the therapies that they're encouraging you to seek may not be the best resources for that information and so there is a learning curve for parents of going from that point to listening to autistic adults and and it does take a lot of humility on the parents part to um realize that maybe they were hurting their kids along the way and how do i undo that trauma