 So it looks like we're pretty much all here whenever staff is ready. I think we're probably ready to begin. Thank you, Chairman Sir, if the board members can please turn their cameras on. I'm sorry, Mr. Maloney say that again. I was just asking you all to turn on your cameras. Looks like everyone's okay. That's going to be here. So we will go ahead and start when you're ready. Okay, great. Thank you. I'd like to welcome members of the public and our board members, city staff, and our applicants to the November 17th cultural heritage board meeting. Percent of government code section 54953E and the recommendation of the health officer of the county of Sonoma. Cultural Heritage Board members will be participating in this meeting via Zoom webinar. Members of the public can participate in the meeting virtually by visiting www.zoom.us forward slash join or phone dialing 888-475-4499 with meeting ID 973-60. 286025. Additional information related to the meeting participation is available on srcity.org forward slash chp. The meeting will also be live streamed at sanarosa.legislar.com forward slash calendar. Click on the in progress link to view. The meeting can also be viewed on Comcast channel 28 and at youtube.com forward slash city of sanarosa. At this time I'd like to call the 430 p.m. regular session Zoom virtual meeting to order. Ms. Felony, could we have a roll call? Yes, one moment. Let the record reflect that all board members are present with one vacancy. Moving on to item two, approval of the minutes. We have no minutes to approve at this time tonight. On to item three, public comments. So I'm going to go ahead and open the board for public comment for any item not included in this meeting's agenda. So if the item is going to be discussed later, the public will have an opportunity to comment. So this is an opportunity for the public to comment on non-agendized items. If you wish to make a comment via Zoom, please select the raise hand button. If you are dialing in via telephone, please dial star nine to raise your hand. Each speaker has three minutes. A countdown timer will appear for the convenience of the speaker and the viewers. Please make sure to unmute yourself when you are invited to do so. Your microphone will be muted at the end of that countdown. So Ms. Felony, do we have anybody wishing to make a public comment? Thank you, Chair Muser. No one's raising their hand at this time. Okay, I want you to give a then not saying anybody. I will close the public comment period. Moving on to item four, board business. I'll start out by reading our statement of purpose. The cultural heritage board shall consider the following matters, standards, guidelines, and criteria to the extent applicable in determining whether to grant or deny a permit, whether proposed change is consistent or incompatible with the architectural period of the building, whether proposed change is compatible with any adjacent or nearby landmark structures or preservation district structures, whether textures, materials, illustrations, decorative features, and details proposed are consistent with the period and or are compatible with adjacent structures. Whether proposed changes, destroys, or adversely affects an important architectural feature or features. The Secretary of the Interior Standards for Rehabilitation and Guidelines for Rehabilitation Historic Buildings. Such other matters, criteria, and standards as may be adopted by resolution of the Cultural Heritage Board. Okay, I'd like to refer to our board and ask if any of the board members have any reports that they'd like to make at this time. If so, raise your hand. Not seeing any. Okay, item 4.3, other business, we have none. Moving on to item five then, our department reports, our liaison, Susie Murray, do you have anything for us tonight? Hi, it took me a minute just to click all those buttons. No, I don't think that we that I have a lot to add as far as department reports. Yeah, I don't think I have a lot to add. So thank you. Continue. We've got a big meeting tonight. Just a quick question from me, just a forecast for future meetings. How are we looking for December? I'm not quite sure about December 1st yet, but I will say that there is no meeting scheduled for December 15th. So if there's a meeting on the 1st, that'll be your last meeting of the year. And if there's not, this will be the last meeting of the year. And I'll take this opportunity to say happy holidays if that's the case. Okay, thanks for asking. Okay, thanks guys. I'm worried. Moving on to item six, statement of the abstentions. So this would be the opportunity for any board member who might have some form of an issue with our item that we're going to be discussing. And if for some reason you need to abstain, we also ask you to identify the reason why you have to abstain. So this would be related to item 7.1, the smart village for its initial development. So do we have any statements of abstention? Okay, moving right along to item 7, our scheduled items. This is going to be a public hearing for the smart village residential development, landmark alteration, except from the California Environmental Quality Act at 34 West 6th Street and 24th Street. So at this time I need to ask if we have any ex parte communication disclosure. So basically, have you had any communications with the applicant or neighbors or any communications regarding this project? And if so, if you'd raise your hand, we'll start with board member Warren. I can't remember what day. It was a while back. I did go and meet with Adam Ross at the site and he described the plans and I actually received a whole large blueprint portfolio of plans. And that's basically it. Thank you, board member Warren. Board member Prez Ellis. I met with the developer. I think it must have been about two months ago and took the tour of the site and just heard of the plans for the development. Any other disclosures? I'll see any hands. I owe board member Garrett. It's hard to unmute yourself. Now I also toured the site with the developer and he walked me through and told me we would probably spend an hour. And I'm really familiar with the site because I was involved a long, I was probably 21 or two years ago with the Food and Wine Center, which got the site, the actually the brown, the what do you call it, the brown cleanup for the site. So anyway, I'm familiar with it. Thanks. Thank you board member Garrett. Board member Warren. Yes, I also spoke with the applicant and actually the applicant's consultant. I think it was back in June and I went over the plans with the applicant consultant and I've driven by the project a couple of times. That's it. Okay, thank you board member Wachs. So were you a paid consultant for the applicant on this project? Who me? No, no, no, I wasn't. I spoke with the consultant of the project. I'm not a consultant. Sorry. Okay, sorry. I misunderstood. Okay, we're good. I also probably at the same time period two months ago met with the applicant as well at the site and had an opportunity to see the plans and hear their discussion. Anybody else? Okay, moving on then. So again, this will be a public caring for the smart village residential development project and our project planner is Adam Ross. And just, you know, since we're all still, even though I've been on the board, I think almost two years, I still feel like I'm a new member on the board. So I'm just kind of kind of lay out how I see this happening discussion wise. So we'll have Adam make his presentation, then we'll have the, and then at that time, if you want, if you need to ask Adam any clarifying questions from the board, I'll give you an opportunity to do that. But this won't be a time for making commentary or having discussion, it's just an opportunity to clarify anything that Adam has presented. Then we'll give the applicant an opportunity to present. And the same thing after that, if you have clarifying questions for the applicant, you can ask that at that time. Then I'll open up public caring for members of the public to come in and make comment. After public hearing is closed, then I'll give an opportunity again for any questions or clarifications before we move to introducing the resolution. Should the resolution be introduced and seconded, the board will then have an opportunity to have further discussion if there's a need for any additional resolution or amendments, any of that type of activity can happen at that time. So that's really our time for our board to discuss openly about the project and make commentary about the project. When we're done with that, then if it comes time to a vote, if that's our next phase, then we'll vote. So that's kind of how I see it kind of going down tonight just so that we're all, everybody should have plenty of opportunity to ask questions and make comment. Okay, so with that, I'd like to go ahead and turn this over to Adam Ross, our city planner. Thank you, Chair Muser, members of the Cultural Heritage Board. I'm going to go ahead and open up my presentation and get started. But right before I do that, I just wanted to mention there was a memo sent to the board yesterday identifying a defect in the notice that went out, the mailing notice. So there's a postcard, it's posted online, there's an onsite sign, and there's also a notice in the press democrat. The only one that had the defect was the mailer sent to property owners and occupants within 600 square feet of the site or 600 feet foot radius of the site. It didn't have the time of the meeting on there, but the time again was on all the other notices. It was also on the CHP website as it typically is the CHP webpage. In response to that, the updated notice was sent to representative from the West End Preservation District and the Ridgway Preservation District with the time attached to the postcard. It was also uploaded to GOV delivery. So when you get a notice, it's a system that notifies anyone via email of projects in the city. And so at the same time, there is a zoning code section 20-66.02083 which states a defects or failure in noticing procedures shall not affect the jurisdiction or authority of a review authority to take action on a matter. And it is staff's recommendation that the board invoke this section of the code and hold the public hearing as noticed and scheduled. So I think you would have to verbally acknowledge that and enter that into the record. And maybe Susie can verify that as well. Okay. And Adam, let me also say that I was brought into the loop on this yesterday. And because the signage on the site was correct, the notice in the President Democrat was correct. The only thing that was not correct was the mailer and it just didn't have the time it had the correct date. And the city's legal was consulted and they came back feeling that we could move forward. So with my discussion with liaison Murray yesterday, I felt that we could go ahead and move forward and not ask for the item to be continued. But we want to make sure that all the board members are also comfortable with that decision. So maybe if someone at this point is comfortable and feels that the noticing because of the noticing error it should be continued, maybe you could raise your hand at this time. Okay. Not seeing any hands raised. Liaison Murray, I just defer to you to see is there any other action that we need to take? No, you don't. It's been acknowledged and this is a relatively minor noticing error. So I think that's why staff's recommendation, as Adam said, is to move forward today. Okay, Adam, all yours. Thank you, Chair. Okay, I'm going to open this up. But if you could just verify that you see the staff's the start of the presentation on the screen. It's not in presentation mode though. I don't know. Maybe it is. I'm sorry. Yes, it is. Great. Thank you. Okay. So again, my name is Adam Ross. I'm a project planner for the downtown station smart side development project. It does include a major landmark alteration permit. File number LMA 21-008 located at 34 West 6th Street and 2 Fourth Street under planning project file number PRJ 21-028. The project is a multi-family housing development. It includes one building of six stories with 114 residential units proposed. They're made up of studio one bedroom, two bedroom and family units. Family units are like two bedrooms with a flex space that could be used for dens or maybe a nursery or office, whatever the family needs per each unit. The amenities include outdoor pool, fitness area, a child play area, a large hydro-seated fields and tables and chairs. There is a new portion of a multi-use path along the eastern portion of the property which connects 6th Street and the downtown smart station. That's part of a larger planned smart multi-use path going through the rest of the property and connecting for the parts of the existing smart path. It also includes a 26-foot wide pathway on the southern side of the proposed building. It connects the western side of the property to the new portion of the smart multi-use path. There are 75 parking spaces included with this proposal. That's 0.7 spaces per unit. The project implements the housing action plan by providing 114 total units. 102 of those units are market rate which is 4% of the regional housing needs assessment and housing action plan goal. 12 units are to be dedicated to low income residents which is 2% of the goal of the regional housing needs assessment and housing action plan. Here's an aerial view of the site. There's a star denoting it in a dash yellow line outlining it. You'll see some of those features as I go through the slides that I was talking about. It is within the railroad square preservation district and across the street is the western preservation district. The project history includes in September of 2020 there was a joint meeting held with the cultural heritage board and the designer review board. The project was viewed as a concept item. Recommendations and comments to that concept package were provided to the applicant. This is kind of flipped here but on April 21st, 2021 the project applications were submitted on May 15th of this year. A notice of application was sent to surrounding neighborhood to the surrounding neighborhood residents and property owners and then on June 2nd a neighborhood meeting was held for the project. Going back to that concept meeting some of these comments I'll read some of them but I won't read all of them. Some provided by the cultural heritage board were with the exception of the first floor. The materials are not represented of courthouse square or the west end. The building is the first of more to come and could set a pattern. In 50 years it may be a contributing structure so be sensitive to the historic districts. Consider using brick treatment on the ground floor. Use of stoops and bricks works well at the ground level. Would like the slow moving road to be as calm of the street as area as possible. Remember the water tower although not part of this particular project. And then some other comments were the project has been long needed for the area. And both projects can't the Canary project in the downtown station project which is this project should work together to coordinate the four street walkway over the creek to the creek. Again I'm not going to read all of them verbatim but it's on the screen for you and it's included in the staff report of the agenda packet. So some of the two top images are from September the concept package and then what's proposed today are the two bottom images. You can see there are some changes. I'll kind of let the out I'll defer to the applicant to kind of specify what those changes are and they'll be better inclined to explain to go over that information with you. General plan and zoning district. So the general plan is the one of the new ones created with the downtown stationary specific plan update from that was adopted in October of 2020. Which matches the zoning district which is shaker mixed use as well. It's got the historic overlay district within that zoning within the project zoning district due to its location within the railroad square preservation district which is why it requires a major landmark alteration permit. The floor area ratio allowed is 6.0 and as proposed is 3.0. Some of the downtown station area and general plan goals and policies are as follows. I won't read them all but I'll read a few. Foster a compact rather than a scattered development pattern into reduced travel energy land and materials consumption while promoting reductions in greenhouse gas emissions city wide. Promote downtown as the center of the business residential social and civic life of Santa Rosa by directing high intensity office uses government residential and entertainment uses to locate downtown. Permit residential uses within all the land use categories within downtown and meet the housing needs of all Santa Rosa residents and expand the supply of housing available to low income households. Development standards for this project. It does allow up to 100% lock coverage. So the project is below that. The there is a 5 to 12 foot setback minimum 5 maximum 12 foot setback for residential ground floor proper projects. And this project does comply with that. There is no minimum required downtown. Sorry, there is no minimum required parking spaces for all downtown projects or projects within the downtown stationary specific plan. However, this project does include 75 surface parking spaces under the shaker makes use zoning code development standards. There is no maximum height. However, there are required findings for buildings over 2 stories or 35 feet within a preservation district. And I will go over that in the next slide. So the so again, buildings over 2 stories or 35 feet tall within a preservation district or require the additional findings. The additional height does not detract from the character of the preservation district for any adjacent contributing structures. So just to clarify this this building, the building proposed is approximately 75 feet to the top of habitable space and approximately 85 feet tall for some of the architecturally screened areas of the roof line. The district compatibility report by Kara Brunzel did conclude that the proposed project is 6 stories, which is taller than but compatible with adjacent structures. Kara is here to go over additional information as well. But just to reiterate, part of that study did discuss the location of the 6th Street Playhouse next door and its compatibility with that and the distance between the height of this building and the distance between the single family residentials in the West End Preservation District before making this finding. The board may also add conditions pertaining to placement of screens, location and any type of openings, location and projections of sun decks, porches, balconies, patios, etc. as you see fit to allow the height above 2 stories or 35 feet. Here's the proposed site plan. So here's that portion of the multi-use trail that would lead down to the smart downtown station. There are some public improvements along West 6th Street as well as part of this project near the smart track crossings. Here is that this is a portion of a future road that's to connect 3rd and 6th Street. It would be a private road with a public access easement over it. So they did add, in this case, the 75 surface parking spaces. Here's the pool, the taut lot or fitness center as well as here and some benches for anyone to use. And then the hydro-seated field as well. This is that 26 foot wide pathway that would connect the western portion of the site to the eastern portion. Here are the proposed elevations. So as you can see here's some of the taut lot. This is South looking northwest from the southeast side of the property. So here's that outdoor fitness area as well. And again, I'll let the applicant go through design and disher compatibility a bit more. So this would be 6th Street. You can see the chops playhouse, I'm sorry, the chops teen center right here. And then further down would be the 6th Street Playhouse. So here are the elevations as well. This is the southern elevation of the building. Here's some of the materials used or proposed materials I should say. Here's some of the design changes which are included in the project packet. I'm going to let the applicant team again kind of go over what's changed. So here you'd see the previous version and then what is proposed now same with some materials as well used throughout the site. So here's the landscape plan, the preliminary landscape plan for reference with some taut lot and how the pool would look and the 26 foot wide pathway. So some of the design guidelines for historic structures and multifamily residential projects are implemented with this project. Some of those that this project includes in its proposals, it preserves the Santa Rosa historic heritage. It assists property owners designers in developing plans for historic properties. It asks that you design new construction so that the architectural character of the neighborhood is maintained. Specific architectural styles are not mandated. Designs for new construction can also be contemporary. A use of materials and designs similar to that found throughout the neighborhood are also encouraged. So a bit about the Railroad Square Preservation District. Again, that's the preservation district this property is located in. The period of significance is from 1888 to through 1921. Includes a homogenous mixture of building styles and construction techniques not found elsewhere in the city. Reflects commercial development during the railroad era and post World War II freeway systems and retains its links with transportation systems in the past. And the buildings reflect a commercial theme with simple detailing and human scale. In addition to the commercial brick buildings on the south side of Fort Street and the Fort Basalt buildings in the district and common architectural themes are rooted in the Mission Revival and Spanish Revival architectural styles. Part of the historic review is found in the processing review procedures for historic properties for new construction. That includes height, proportion, rhythm, setbacks, material and textures, roof shape, architectural details and decorative features. These were all responses to these were all included in the district compatibility report by Cara Brunzel. Part of that historic review also requires Secretary of Interior standards. There are no existing structures on the site. It is a there once was but hasn't been for a while and it's a gravel lot at this current point in time with some small shrubs on the site. However, again, that district compatibility report did indicate that the applicable Secretary of Interior standards are three, eight and nine and 10 and that the project complies with those standards. And it is compatible with the Railroad Square Preservation District and the West End Preservation District. And it complies with all design guidelines for new construction in the processing review procedures for historic properties. Here are the required findings for a major landmark alteration permit. The project is consistent with applicable zoning standards except as directed by zoning code section 20-12.020. Again, it does comply with the development standards provided that the Cultural Heritage Board finds that the increase in height does not detract from the character of the Railroad Square Preservation District or any adjacent contributing properties. It does implement the general plan and any applicable specific plan and it has been found in compliance with the California Environmental Quality Act. And I'll go over that in a couple slides. Additional review criteria for the Board to approve the project is consistency with the original architectural style and details of the building, compatibility with any adjacent or nearby landmark structures or preservation district structures, consistency, compatibility of proposed textures, materials, penetration, and decorative features, and details with the time period of the building's construction. And whether or not the proposed change will destroy or adversely affect important architectural features and consistency with applicable Secretary of Interior standards for the treatment of historic properties with guidelines for preserving, rehabilitating, restoring, and reconstructing historic buildings. Some of the public on-site improvements, I'm sorry, I've jumped around a bit here, but addition of portion of the SMART, so some of the public on-site improvements include the addition of the portion of the SMART multi-use path from 6th Street to the SMART downtown station. There's an interim roadway providing the 75 parking spaces. I say interim, but it's planned to connect 3rd to 6th Street. That again is a private road with a public access easement to be used to allow access from the public when it's at full buildout. New right-of-way improvements along 6th Street as well. Some neighborhood concerns, or sorry, I should say neighborhood comments included a concern over consistency with the general plan, concern over the lack of parking, concern over consistency with surrounding neighborhoods, concern for safe crossings around the project site. There was a request to limit the construction hours to avoid potential light and noise nuisances, questions about the internal roadway, questions on the surrounding neighborhood use of amenities, general support of the project, support for additional parking supply, and encouragement to expand the affordability component. Staff did receive two emails today, which I will briefly summarize. One is from the Sonoma County Transportation and Land Use Coalition. They are in support of the application of the Cornstone Properties project, which is the, they're in support of this project and encourage the multi-use path to be well designed and provide eyes on the creek and eyes on the streets for continued public safety. There was also an email received a letter from the Greenbelt Alliance support letter, so which is in support of the smart site development project, also known as Downtown Station, and that would be it from the neighborhood comments. So going over the environment review for the project, the proposed project has been reviewed in compliance with the California Environmental Quality Act, CEQA, in that the proposed project qualifies for categorical exemption, I'm sorry this should say statutory exemption from CEQA under section 65457 of the California Public Resources Code, also found in CEQA guideline section 15182A-C, in that the project would develop a residential land use that is consistent with the Downtown Stationary Specific Plan and the Certified Subsequent Program EIR, State Clearing House Number 2006072104, and no events subsequent to certification have required a supplemental EIR pursuant to Public Resources Code section 21166. Essentially the Downtown Stationary Specific Plan EIR and MMRP have already analyzed this project, it has been reviewed against that EIR, and no project specific conditions apply to this project, so that would transfer to this project, and you would potentially see a lot of that for new projects within the Downtown Stationary Specific Plan. With that the Planning and Economic Development Department recommends that the Cultural Heritage Board by resolution approve the major landmark alteration permit for the Downtown Station Smart Site Development Project, a 114-unit multi-family residential development proposed at 34 West 6th Street and 24th Street. That concludes staff's presentation. I did receive, less than an hour ago, the applicant's presentation. So I did receive staff's presentation less than an hour ago, it has not been, it's not in, so I am able to enter that into the public record here and allow them to use that presentation for their project, because it doesn't provide any newer unknown materials that weren't already included in the agenda packet. So when I open this presentation and the applicant presents, that would be when it's first entered into the public record. And also that, again, that concludes staff's presentation and I'm available for any questions before I get that started. Okay, thank you, Planner Ross. So do any of our board members have any clarifying questions for Planner Ross? Okay, not seeing any hands. Ms. Ross, let's go ahead and do our applicant presentation. Great, thank you. So are you able to hear me right now? Yes, we can hear you. Okay, thank you. Good evening, Chair Muser and members of the Cultural Heritage Board. My name is Peter Stanley. I'm a principal with Archaeologics and we're the local planning consultant for the Downtown Station project. We're very excited tonight to bring you this project. As you well know, the lack of housing has reached the crisis level in our community and around the state and this project will provide desperately needed market and inclusionary housing on a previous Brownfield site which has now been cleaned, cleared and ready for development. We've been working for over two years getting this project ready for your review and we have our entire design and development team here tonight. I'd like to introduce them all to you. We have Pauline Block from Cornerstone Properties, the project developer, Ben Wrigley, a principal with SCB Architects and the Design Architects for the project, Brett Cordenbrock, a landscape architect with Quadrigal Landscape Architecture, Kara Brunzel, who is our architectural historian and Rick Carlisle from BKF Civil Engineers is also available if you have any questions. I realize that many of you were not on the CHP back in September of 2021. We brought the project forward for concept review. Needless to say over the past year we've been working on addressing both CHP member and public comments as well as addressing technical issues. The project before you tonight is the result of those efforts. I wanted to make one clarification in Adam's excellent staff report regarding the pool. The staff report stated that the pool was reserved for the project residents but actually the pool would be available to the public through a membership program. This isn't an effort to make the development more accessible to the community. As I said the entire design team is here and available to answer any questions you have but at this point I'm going to hand it off to Ben Wrigley to get us started. Ben? Thank you Peter. Can you hear me out there? Yes sir we can. Okay great would you go to the next slide please. You will see this slide again a little later on but for now I'm going to use it to introduce the architectural design for the building. I'll be speaking mostly about the architectural treatment relative to both the materiality of the building and its massing. This site will help understand the building's sighting. The building is shown in the orange rectangle at the north end of the site here and you can see it addresses three adjacent conditions. There's the railroad square historic district and the west end historic district and then there's the historic cannery site so we really have those three frontages and those three relationships to consider relative to how we treat the building. You can also see the bike trail coming down the east side of the site and we've got to think about future connections to that and how that interfaces with the building. There's a fire lane that has to go around the building that you know affects the way we design the perimeter of this project and also you can see in anticipation of potential future projects how we've oriented the building relative to the view corridors looking along fourth street and fifth street towards the creek so you know we're thinking about the past the present and the future as we think about the design of this building could you go to the next slide please. Relative to the to the context the site really is closest to the historic cannery structures and really they form I think the primary design drivers between our that helps us with our material selections as some of the design elements that you see around the building so you see a photograph there at the bottom of the slide which shows the historic cannery structure the remains of it and you can see some of its sort of characteristics the the masonry bays that kind of rhythmic facade that you'll see in our own design you see those punched windows and those almost residential scale elements within an industrial building and then importantly you can see some of the pertinent structures you see a loading dock there which is made of you know wrought iron metal with certain wood elements and structural elements within it and we thought that was you know an important part of this like character of the building and something we wanted to reinterpret within our own design and so if you'll go to the next slide we start here with a look along 6th street where really we're addressing the west end historic district first and foremost and that residential neighborhood to our northwest and this is really a transition from downtown towards that neighborhood so here you can see a couple of things that I'll point out one is the residential stoops that are an important way of activating the ground floor of the building providing eyes on the street providing some defensible space for the units allowing people to interact with the with the street life and large windows looking out onto the street creating a very residential feel and then also the materiality of that which starts to pull in those elements the the metal canopies with those wood accents on the soffit there some of the metal work that's in the railings around those stoops which are raised 18 inches or so above the street level to kind of create that privacy but all of this is starting to bring the scale of the stick sorry six story building down to more of a residential scale at the street you can see the people here in the renderings and how you know how this ground floor treatment starts to really address that residential scale if you go to the next side slide please zooming out and looking at the whole elevation along the 6th street what you see here is more of a residential scale and character to this to this linear building you know this is a long building you know that massing that linear massing is similar in some ways to the historic cannery massings those are long buildings and so here on this side of the building we wanted to take that and break it down with more of this kind of town home aesthetic give it more of a residential feel and help it to address the residential neighborhood across the street while also bringing some of those materials you can see some of those wood accents that were on the ground floor starting to make the way of the building and into those window openings and within the fenestration of the building starting to help contextualize the building at the largest scale and if you go to the next slide please Mr. Wrigley yes sir if I can interrupt just for a minute I want to check in with one of our board members so I think might be having internet issues make sure that she's able to hear your presentation so we can have you just pause for just a moment of the board member board member Garrett are are you able to hear the presentation I can hear the presentation and see it on my cell phone it's not working I don't know why it's not working on my computer I'll keep trying as some there there's an unstable internet connection for some reason okay okay if if for some reason you lose a connection just kind of let us know or if we see you go dark we'll pause but as long as you can hear the presentation we'll continue on yeah I'm here okay thank you thank you okay Mr. Wrigley thank you for the pause okay and no problem thank you um yeah the last image that we have in terms of the architectural treatment and the massing is the south elevation here where we we start to break the building down a little less and give it a little bit more presence as it looks to the south this is the elevation that will address the railroad square historic district and really this is the most active facade of the building relative to the public use of the ground floor and a couple of the improvements or changes that were made as part of the review process with the various bodies and one of the comments we had was that there was not enough of the industrial material reference within the upper facade elements and so one of the things we change and can be seen here is previously we had glass balcony rails around the balconies and we changed those to more metal work one of that dark metal work to tie them in with some of those ground floor treatments and also to give them a bit of a stronger relationship to some of the industrial character in the adjacent structures and the second thing was on the ground floor we we were asked to consider a more durable more robust material what had previously been a porcelain tile on the ground floor became a masonry product which has a sort of stone treatment within it that gives it a much more durable and robust masonry finish which actually ties it in a little bit more with some of that darker stonework in the basalt buildings of the of the railroad square historic district and again just you know pointing out here the the large amounts of windows a lot of activation of the facade of the building and activation therefore of the street level and good sense of eyes on the street and around the entire building you know we focused on how we would interface with the street and what kind of amenities and facilities would be able to bring to the neighborhood so with that I'm going to hand over to Brett Cordenbrack at Quadrigo who's going to talk a little more about the ground floor and the landscape treatment so Brett over to you. Can everyone hear me okay? Yes we can hear you. Yes great hi I'm Brett Cordenbrack with Quadrigo Landscape Architecture thank you for hearing us today and bringing this project um so I want to talk a little bit about the site plan and kind of the areas at the ground ground floor so Ben did a good job of kind of introducing some of the some of the areas of West 6th Street and kind of talking about that in terms of the neighborhood character and being consistent with building setbacks and respecting some view corridors um sorry could you advance to the to the next slide please right so overall overall site plan here um so yeah so on 6th Street again features a welcoming and buffered streetscape and we're looking at a variety of different street trees possibly and some other trees kind of activate those stups and and then to the to the south the large hydro seeded field area is really something that is slated for future development it's going to be fenced and and seeded with a native kind of wildflower mix so could you advance to the next slide please uh so just zooming in a little bit and giving some uh some context on some of the materials and character for these spaces um the building amenities are on the south side of the building um and again these were talked about a little bit earlier in terms of community uh and neighborhood kind of focused and a membership type program to access these these zones directly adjacent to the building the pool um the barbecue and gathering areas the play area all kind of directly adjacent to the building um and those would all be fenced with a kind of a controlled access to and from what we're calling the muse and the muse is the aforementioned 26 foot emergency access lane that you're kind of seeing seeing to the farther south there adjacent to the amenities in the hydro seeded field um so this the muse is what we're kind of terming it is a space that's kind of community focused has some seeding elements idea of a splash pad and kind of to activate that area has also been something that we're playing around with and in concept to really kind of activate that space and and bring bring folks in from the from the neighborhood as well as from the trail and kind of those those adjacencies um these features are adjacent to and extending along the building and basically the muse and the um and the community amenities create a large kind of common area and a lot of the materials that we're thinking about for both of these spaces definitely reference and build upon those in the building looking at metal and wood and and banded paving treatments throughout these throughout these areas you go to the next slide please so a couple of sections the the top section through kind of closer to the smart train line just kind of giving a an idea of the the the common space that's adjacent to the building and then kind of the scale of the muse that again that 26 foot um emergency access area and in making sure that we kind of you know don't let that um that muse kind of become a passive space but maybe activating activating that a little bit more again the section in the middle again kind of cuts through the pool area again one of the main amenities and attractors of this of this development uh and its adjacency to the muse and so here we're using screening trees and shade trees to kind of help bring the scale down of these spaces but also kind of humanize them and provide some relief and shade on that on that south side and finally that the section on the bottom is at west 6th street again just kind of showing those stoops and the elevated nature and eyes on the street and kind of that defensible space idea that Ben had discussed earlier um and we go to the next slide please again just some um some ideas that were that were putting forward here with some of the fencing again recalling the the the history and some of the materials of the of the history of the site and the place with with the metal uh metal fencing metal screening panels um for some of the uh some of the patio spaces adjacent to the amenity amenity zones um and I think um I think that's all for me I'm going to hand it over to Cara Brunzel architectural historian for the project thank you this is the host um Ben Wrigley just so you know we cannot hear you at this time it's likely I'm sorry this is uh I was not intending to talk at this point and this is Cara's moment to talk if Cara is out there oh sorry um I just saw your microphone oh we don't have a Cara with us unless um if they can raise their hand I think I think she's on she's just she had trouble getting connected in the beginning maybe she could raise your hand yeah because right now we don't have anybody would buy that name but they could be under a different device name so if you're using a phone device if you press star nine or if you're using a computer or phone click the icon of the little raise hand yeah as of right now we have 30 attendees and nobody under that name the applicant team like to try and get a hold of her and we can take a short recess yes I'm calling her right now okay chair Muser I think it might be a good time actually to take maybe just a short break while we do that and if that's all right with you yeah that sounds good um why don't we take uh uh 10 minutes okay thank you so um can you hear me I got hold of Cara hi Peter it's Susie Susie can you hear me I can hear you what we're gonna come back we're gonna we're taking a break just for a few more minutes I think people have stepped away you can't hear me oh there you go I hear you now okay so I get hold of Cara she had to come through a different area but she said she now sees the hand we're we can see her now but we've we took a about a 10 minute break okay that's fine as long as you can see her yes walking back and walk and start there okay okay perfect perfect thank you you got the mic Mr. Wrigley your uh mic's unmuted just let you know I'm sorry I'm chair Muser just keeping the prizes situation looks like Cara has jumped on a couple times when we keep losing her so I'm not sure if there's an internet connection issue or not but we'll get a few more minutes okay thank you for one just to let you know she is having trouble she keeps she's trying to come back in right now sounds good thank you and Mr. Stan that you want to suggest we know we definitely get better connections with people if she wants to call in the number that's displayed on the screen if you wanted to share that with her um just press star nine and raise it raise their hand okay to be able to hear um if she's not able to connect with them okay give it a try I'm here again if you guys can hear me now hello we can hear you oh I'm so sorry I'm sure it was some error on my end but I have worked it out so thank you so much for your patience all of you and thank you chair and um Cara Cara hold on just second we've got to reconvene before we we get you going so okay great all right so Mr. Cohen if if you're ready we'll go ahead and get all the board members to turn their video back on and we'll reconvene sounds good staff is ready when you are Mr. Ross if you can please put the presentation back on board member Garrett bring it with us I'm with you I'll I'll know let's see if I can get my video back on am I on now I'm not yet okay vice chair fennel if you can also turn your video back on thank you okay thank you vice chair fennel and there's board member Garrett okay we're ready to go um so we're reconvening the culture others board meeting and uh miss brunzel that's all yours thank you so much for your patience in um letting me give me the time to get connected properly and thank you all for your time in allowing me to present briefly tonight um staff gave a wonderful summary of my report so I don't need to go over everything again I just will point out that um you know we have this map here as a as a background document but we are talking about a rather large vacant plot within the railroad square preservation district near its edge but within it formerly a railroad yard and the site of a contributor to the district but has been vacant for some time I believe the um the original historic building that was associated with the woolen mill was the last of those was demolished about 1990 um and so we we have a little bit of a challenging situation uh in assessing compatibility when we have a vacant lot because of course uh both the local standards and the secretary of interior standards are oriented towards rehabilitation or restoration of existing historic buildings and um there is a little bit of guidance on intel and so that that's what we have focused on and um what we see is a district to to quibble with one thing that staff said this is not a homogenous district um that language comes from the city the city's official language but I believe that was a a typographical error of sorts because we have a very diverse district it's very different from all the other districts in Santa Rosa which are oriented towards residential and institutional buildings like you know churches and post offices this district is almost exclusively commercial and industrial and railroad related so the resources themselves are quite a bit larger than typical historic resources and they are um you know they tend to be stone masonry or rick we don't have a lot of wood frame buildings so um you know we we are talking about putting a large building into a historic district which is typically you know something to be concerned about but this is not the typical situation because we don't have a skyscraper looming over a tiny cottage um as as one of my colleagues pointed out earlier in in fact the footprint and uh massing of this building are you know similar to to the cannery next door and we have a lot of taller buildings as well you know the rose hotel and um and some other buildings that are a couple stories in this district so um this building is I believe compatible with the historic district and in terms of the west and historic district it also has um you know we've talked about the chop uh the the teen center across the street and that is a a larger building within the west end historic district and again this project will not loom over these uh residential resources because the contributors to that district are the closest ones are about a block away and and they're across the street so you have the the buffer of the street between um between the new building and these the lower slum historic buildings um so that is kind of the uh the heart of my report and what I wanted to say tonight and I can um you know be available if anyone has any questions or or wants to discuss the historic compatibility further thank you so that concludes our presentation a little longer than get anticipated but um glad to get to this point where we can take questions as I said the whole team's ready and available to take questions from the board thank you best Stanley um board members do you have any clarifying questions for the applicant uh at this time hi uh can you hear me yeah board member Garrett um I have a couple of questions they're more about the the rest of the the lock but um can I can I ask those sure and board member Garrett you're we've lost your video if if it's possible to regain that okay I'll see if I can do that while I'm um it because I'm now on my phone it says um that I'm not driving safely so let's see here okay there I am there you are um so I have questions um is it possible to um provide the fourth uh street connection at this point I know um that's something that I assume that you're going to do at some point but um can that be done now and what are I have a I'll just go through them and you can answer them as you go later um I I want to make sure that the water tower will be um in in a view line hopefully with fourth street once that once the project that you know the next phase of the project occurs um and then um I I I have a question about the about if there's obviously there's no retail at the ground floor here so it's not going to be very lively at the street um and I and I'm concerned about that because railroad square district really needs that liveliness at the street level um to work with a historic district and other than those questions I really appreciate your um listening to concerns about the design of the building I think it's um really quite a nice design and I um I think the landscaping is going to add a lot to that to that um sixth street phase of this project thank you Tom so I'll I'll try and go through these um Cappy and get to all of them so the first one about the fourth street connection um so we have we have submitted a design to SMART the SMART engineers have accepted it in concept and have now told us that we need to go to the California PUC um you can imagine that's not a a three week um process this is going to take a significant amount of time and it's going to take support from the city in order to get through that process but um I would say that it isn't unlikely that this could take us 18 months to get the permission we would love to build the crossing with this project we just don't think we're going to be able to get the permissions that we need at the state level in order to do it but we do have a design that has been accepted by SMART and it's simply an at grade crossing that emulates what's on the east side and we would just continue that over to the west side and connect it to the project um so that that's that as far as we know at this point um and we just heard back from Bill Gamlin a couple weeks ago so this is this is this is right news and it's and we have a ways to go in terms of the ground floor I don't know if Ben wants to um to weigh in a little I will tell you that the sixth street side is a more residential and it's a quieter piece of the development um if you think of this as five acres um you know the north end of it is actually a quieter and more residential piece and as you move south get into more into the industrial part where it is certainly intention on the four street connection to create more pedestrian more circulation more ground floor activating space that's the intention as we get down there we haven't designed all of that yet trying to get through this first piece right now I'd like to weigh in too on that okay sure and hi this is Pauline Block from Cornerstone on the development team there thanks all for having us tonight um on the retail portion um so the intent for this building was just to simply build housing um we did add that club house as a somewhat public amenity so the programming we see on that is really integrating community events um meetings you know aside from it just being for the residents so that's you know small piece um is something that we want to see activated um and then you know with the future the project as Peter Peter said we've had some preliminary thoughts we definitely want to um you know what we're proposing a an open green space on the side closest to third street that would be a public area that could host farmers markets events have an amphitheater so we do definitely see that area as being activated um in in the future phases um so right now we just kind of have that's you know clubhouse but definitely take that comment and and we're running with it we want to even see if we can do some type of you know pop-up events possibly once we get this course building up on the rest of the um the site so that's definitely something we're thinking about that's that's great both of your comments are really helpful thank you and in terms of the view corridor that that's obviously a big part of the design that we're looking at in terms of the water tower the water tower historically sat on the cannery side and we don't know it's still lying there on its side we don't know how that's being incorporated into that project but corridor through our um project is um the the intent is to carry that fourth street connection all the way to the degree that we can to the prince memorial greenway but we don't have all over the cannery site yeah okay thank you addresses all three okay thank you thank you peter thank you board member garrett uh any other questions for the applicant not seeing any hands raised oh sorry i have my hand raised oh oh i'm sorry i didn't see that yeah no problem no problem um uh first i want to thank uh miss brunzel for her report it was very thorough and uh i appreciated it um i did have a question um that arose for me reading it um in the report you noted conformance to the secretary of interior standards pertaining to archaeological resources um and you noted that um the project will avoid disturbance of archaeological resources and undertake appropriate mitigation measures if any are um found and i was wondering if any work was done and i didn't see it in either of the reports um about if any archaeological resources were present on the site um and if any investigation was done um looking at existing records to see if anything you know might be present there um and i'm asking because there are you know other recorded native american uh archaeological resources in the area so i'm kind of interested to to learn if there's any that might be affected by the project uh yeah planner ross could you yeah so um i can kind of answer part of that and i i did get that uh question from you uh board member pritzellis uh so before cara provides um any sort of commentary i just wanted to add that um so part of the downtown stationary specific plan subsequent eir that is referenced as kind of analyzing the site there was a review of known studies um throughout downtown and there were specific sites that are identified that has a higher potential based on previous studies uh i should say phase one phase two archaeological resource surveys um in and around the site those this is not one of those sites um and as part of the uh consistency with the downtown stationary specific plan a phase one is not phase one archaeological resource survey is not required um for the properties within downtown that aren't already pre identified so this project did not include one there are um there's a a state it's just a it's a blanket uh kind of um requirement for the building uh from the building code that would be um you know if anything's found you have to halt and and um and uh take the appropriate actions uh staff was staff me uh the project planner was going to put those conditions although not required to put them on on the resolution because they're they're inherent um i was going to put that on the designer view uh resolution but i do have some language to kind of um address that should you feel that you need additional language added for um a condition of approval uh and it just references um should any cultural uh resources be discovered during ground disturbing activities um and then lastly the designer view board has not reviewed this project yet they're going after the cultural heritage board and i don't know if carol wants to add anything else to that i don't really have anything for me to add i all i worked on was the the compatibility analysis but um you know just kind of what staff said i assume there will be you know appropriate uh measures taken to you know stop work if something is found and and that's sort of uh the usual practices for construction so that's what i was referencing in my report rather than any specific work that had been done great thank you both we appreciate it thank you board member pretzels anyone else have any questions yeah okay board member borne i just want to be clear on that this is you consider this phase one um is this the only actual structure that will be put in the whole area or is there are their plans um towards the cannery area that will have another another phase another structure another building so it we don't have it phased at this point just because the complications of doing a master plan at this stage this is sort of a proof of concept in a lot of ways there is no project like this in in uh in railroad square or in the west end so certainly it's a five point acre site it's our intention um to continue to look at this post construction of um this first building along sixth street so um i can't give you anything definitive about that but i can say that um you know this is all about how markets react money is available and pandemics don't keep occurring there's there's so many things that could occur that could affect how we move forward but it is our intention to continue looking at that site for sure thank you thank you board member borne anyone any other board members questions uh vice chair fennel i guess my question from the meeting that we had in september of 2020 or yeah september 2020 um a lot of the public comments and a lot of the the responses from the uh the board were around um incorporating brick into the design of the building in um you know as as a testament to the cannery and and you know a lot of the different structures that are in that area that are so you know heavy with brick and to you know that they would like to see brick incorporated and i'm i guess my question is why in these new plans with an opportunity to bring something with brick in it that this has nothing then maybe you could take that one be sure it's down a little in your presentation and maybe you could just elaborate on it yeah you know thank you for the question and we have we have discussed that in other meetings and as a design team i think our feeling was that you know we have a there's there's there's numerous adjacencies that we are considering there's that there's there's the west end historic district there's railroad square district as well as the historic cannery buildings and and i think for us what was important was that we we brought in some of those ground floor and industrial characteristics of the cannery buildings but it was it was less important to us that we tried to you know mimic the cannery buildings and bring in the brick to a degree that you know became sort of the sort of faux historicist kind of reference to that we were certainly very keen on the ground floor being you know having those industrial characteristics and those industrial materials but we wanted this to be you know a clean modern residential building and not something that was pretending to be an industrial building that it is not and so it was a decision we made as a design team after a lot of deliberation and looking at different options but we still feel that that is the right way to go in terms of a design direction for this as we look to what we're doing now and providing new modern housing to the community and you know what might come in later you know subsequent looks at the site okay thank you chair i'm done with my question yeah i'm done with my question the rest of it will be with comments okay thank you vice chair tell me any other questions okay well this is a public hearing so i'm going to go ahead at this point and open it up to the public for a public comment so that we can hear those comments and uh mr baloney thank you chair mezer we have multiple hands raised we want one right first we have a Karen we're going to push a button which gives you permission to speak once you click it the time we'll start you can please state your full name for the record hello my name is Karen Rosenberg and i'm a resilience fellow at greenbelt alliance greenbelt alliance is an environmental nonprofit that promotes climate smart housing to make our communities safer and more inclusive reinforcing our submitted letter greenbelt alliance is extremely proud to endorse this project it will help the city of santa rosa make significant progress towards their rena goals and also provide a much needed housing for those who live and work in santa rosa which will reduce commute times and greenhouse gas emissions we are at a critical turning point in the climate crisis and we need to act now to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions and build resilient communities to be resilient in the face of climate change starts with better identifying climate related risks to our communities built environment and natural systems and taking an educated holistic and equitable view on how to address them creating higher density living enhances the quality of life and this project is a huge step to show how projects can survive and thrive with less parking beyond simply leveraging existing transportation and infrastructure this project will feature many sustainable features aimed at energy and water savings reduction of local heat island effect and providing healthy indoor air quality and we all know how important air quality is now every city in the bay area must play their part to increase the housing stock to make sure the local workforce can afford to live close to jobs schools and services improving the social fabric of our communities and reducing the climate damaging greenhouse gas emissions produced by driving i would like to commend cornerstone for this great development and encourage you to expeditiously approve the sustainable equitable development thank you thank you mess frostburt thank you next we have peter rumble good evening uh board my name is peter rumble i'm the ceo of the senator as a metro chamber of commerce and i want to simply but very strongly add our support to that from other organizations and individuals in the community like the green belt alliance very proud to join them in support of this project the project is exactly what we need to build our community and support a thriving economy not to mention making sure our community members have a place to live and don't have to choose to commute from lake mendicino solano other counties from afar and to provide uh a central piece of attracting uh the workforce our businesses so desperately need thank you very much thank you miss rumble thank you next we have a kaolin weeks can you hear me okay yeah yes we can chair the user vice chair benel board members and staff my name is kaolin weeks and i am the policy director with generation housing where we advocate for more more diverse and more affordable housing i'd actually like to echo our our fellow community partners um we actually say i think a lot of the same sentiments but we we as generation housing are certainly very proud as well to support and officially endorse the smart village residential development um at 346 street in downtown sanarosa really i mean the project's alignment with the city of sanarosa vision you know for an invigorated downtown area uh leverages local and regional assets like the smart station um creates convenient access to a baby of transit options like an accessible white network and increases foot traffic for downtown businesses which is critically needed um and in fact the the project receives um a superb walk score for the number of nearby amenities that would really allow residents to run daily errands without requiring a car and this project also really demonstrates superb land use and environmental features by locating these um 114 new homes in the downtown core of the city near public transit and amenities i mean simply putting homes near transit is really the most environmentally friendly action we can take through land use to achieve our climate action goals um furthermore you know the smart villages site location abides by local planning priorities and community vision give it its location the downtown station area specific plan which importantly was developed with significant uh communion but the project's urban design acknowledges the local architectural heritage of the city and the two adjoining historic districts between which is uh which it is nestle while you know also i think drawing inspiration from its name uh its neighbors the the railroad uh square historic district the western historic district and the architectural language of the canary buildings um finally the smart village is important to our community as a pioneer of proof of concept project uh we must show developers uh that uh santa rosa can support modern concept downtown development this is sex the success this project really honestly can have a cascading effect and so we strongly urge this board and really all relevant uh city entities to to partner with developers and to to get the sticks to the ground and let's get this done as soon as possible as always uh thank you so much for your service and we appreciate you uh taking your time to be here today thank you thank you for your comments kyle one moment terms next we have katie murray can you hear me yes we can great hi i'm katie murray i'm representing north bay leadership council north bay leadership council is an employer led public policy advocacy group representing the leading employers amaran sonoma and api counties north bay leadership council believes that in order to create and sustain a vibrant downtown santa rosa we need to build dense multifamily housing that is transit oriented and pedestrian friendly it is imperative that we build with the future in mind which means we need walkable communities that will help reduce our dependency on cars to build a sustainable resilient future for downtown santa rosa and ultimately the north bay downtown station phase one is a catalyst project for the area and we support moving forward to shovels in the ground as soon as possible in hopes of spurring other projects to follow suit the community wants these amenities and is desperate for more housing it is a project that will be a solution to at least two issues the north bay is facing so north bay leadership council urges your support of the downtown station phase one thank you so much for your time and your consideration thank you most part thank you next we have a leilani clark hi um yeah my name is leilani clark and i live at 45 west sixth street which is the little greenhouse catty that will be catty corner from um the lobby of the new um the smart village construction so obviously my family and i i live here with my husband and my daughter who's eight years old she attends taser chavez language academy and um we're really excited about the project um obviously it's something that's going to impact our lives in the neighborhood very heavily in terms of construction and then and then our view um eventually but we're so excited to welcome lots of new neighbors um as the representative from generation housing stated this is such a fantastic walkable neighborhood we love it and it's the perfect place to invite lots more people to live so we're excited about that um and i wanted to make a statement about that comment about the design i i really like that new design honestly when it was being shared i literally looked out my window and the sun was setting over and and i was picturing it there in that field which is basically our view from the house and i was like it's gonna look fantastic i really don't think it needs any more brick please in fact i asked for you know we have lots of bricks here and i really would rather not look at another wall of brick i already have a beautiful view of that at sixth street in chops i think this design fits really well and kind of gives a nice contrast so i wanted to put that in about the design and um i think that's about it you know once again just a reminder we really need these developments in these specific areas these infill developments and um my final comment is just remember us with that the pool you know that's always my statement we we would love to have that community pool access maybe at a discounted rate you know after all that construction so thank you for your time and i appreciate it and i very much support um the developers in this thank you miss clark thank you one moment chairman next we have a dorthy and if you can please state your full name for the record okay hear me now can you hear me yes we can okay thank you my name is dorthy baby and i am the chairman of the board for sixth street playhouse the theater which is leonie clark's brick wall she gets still got a guest um and we are due west of this project site we are the only currently standing neighbor so we are very much excited about this project i've heard words like vibrant lively active we would love to see that in this neighborhood we represent one of the nearby amenities so that people who live in this new building have a great place to come and visit and uh we're in the midst of trying to purchase the 2.3 acres that the theater sits on and to devote it to the performing arts so we have great big plans to try to create a very lively entertainment district in the area which we would love to see lots of people living close by who can walk and who can take advantage of a performing arts center in the middle of railroad square so we are 100 percent for this project are excited by it especially the connector road between sixth and third the only thing that upsets us is that we will have to do something about the east side of our building because it's super ugly and needs lots of work so we plan to do that and to help beautify that corridor but for now we're 100 percent on board with this project and appreciate everything Pauline and alone have done to get it this far and we represent the only actual standing cannery in the neighborhood the building's been there since 1905 and survived the o6 quake unlike the woollen wall so we are we're quite excited to see this get in the ground and rise up and that's it thank you thank you miss fady thank you next we have a willard richards my name is willard richards i'm chair of the snow mccounty transportation and land use coalition we strongly support this project for reasons that we all understand and many people have commented on we have an urgent need for additional housing that some of this housing should be affordable that some market rate housing should be affordable by design that building housing near a major transtop is a high priority and that the housing and in a valuable property like this should be dense to maximize the availability of housing so we join everybody else in endorsing the project for those reasons one comment that i think is unique within our organization is that the prince memorial greenway is less safe than we would like because most properties have a high fence between the property and the path and so that there are no eyes on the path and so that we've suggested to the designers of the project that they take a look at changing the front door entrances of the apartments on the west end excuse me the east end of the development so that they're on the side opposite the path or at a minimum having a good window space so that the people in the apartment have eyes on the path and we urge that this issue be considered in future developments on the property my final comment was not discussed within the organization so here here i'm speaking as an individual brick was the building material of choice two centuries ago one century ago was already beginning to be phased out as the building material of choice this project is being built in this time with materials that are appropriate for this time and i personally do not seem much advantage in putting a veneer of obsolete the building material on this project thank you very much thank you best for our shirts thank you one moment next we have a paul polan hi i'm paul polan i live um almost opposite the new place in the west end um father of three kids and yeah i'm just excited about the project it looks really neat on paper it looks beautiful it's also thrilled to hear that there was a response about the pool and decided to become a member in whatever way that's available when the thing is built so that's great i think it's a really good way to involve the community and have just community kind of gathering point and that'd be great so please yeah please do follow through with that and we'll hold you to that um and yeah i'm glad about the pastor the one thing that was and then this is not affiliated for the developers maybe but um you know that'll connect and it'll connect to the train path and then it'll kind of just stop because then right across third street where it should naturally hook up to the green memorial trail there's no connector there there's no way to continue on to the trail you have to then go like around everything and somehow and get down no road to then go down a ramp and so anyway just like putting it out there left you can maybe push with the city or or ask them to like connect or maybe give us information to the community how to get that connected because it will be to feel very weird to come all the way down the trail and then just be stopped right after your property um from connecting to the rest of the the trail so um that would be great and then yeah just continue to please reach out to the the neighborhood and and get important things the one concern I do have is around the the parking I mean I hate to like use up any other space in our type community with parking but trying to understand how it's going to work with 114 units and 75 parking spaces like just don't like how is that going to work other than like filling up lots of street parking and and right you know so that people who live here don't our neighborhood doesn't have garages much that people can park in and so then everyone the people live here where are they going to park so I don't know what the solution is to that that you that you're imagining that's it so I got hey Chris thank you chair user and with that it looks like no one else is placing their hands this time I'm sorry I was probably would you repeat that yeah looks like we just got a hand raised uh no well Johnson yeah can you hear me okay yes we can hi I'm no well Johnson I'm a neighbor of the Lanean Falls I live at 112 Pearson street and just wanted to you know like like all the other comments I think I can speak for the vast majority of our neighborhood when we say we're there's definitely a lot of support for this project I did want to mention a couple things one is this was also brought up by Lelani as well the comment earlier about brick not being included in the design I think some of the public comments referencing the brick we're simply confusing the two lots when we've discussed this project in the community a lot of people don't understand there's a distinction between the smart lot and the cannery building and I so I think a lot about comments may have been in reference to preserving those brick facades of the cannery building um I think for most of us feel like the design of this one looks really good as it is I also wanted to um kind of second what Paul was expressing about parking this is now the second apartment building and very close proximity to us that has insufficient parking for the number of apartments going up and I'm a little skeptical of the idea that simply building apartments with insufficient parking is the way to make a city bikeable I moved into this neighborhood because I am a cyclist I along with Paul I bike my kid to school every day um I would love this city to be more bikeable it was more bikeable when I moved here a decade ago it has become less so as another commenter did say it's become less safe the Prince Memorial Greenway and other bike paths have actually become less bikeable than they were lately so there's a lot of work to do to make this more bikeable than simply insufficient parking otherwise um yeah again just like to express my support for the project thank you thank you Mr. Johnson thank you and with that chair user no one else is raising their hand at this time okay let's get it just uh a little bit longer let's see if anybody comes up okay saying nothing um we'll now officially close the public caring portion of the meeting I'd like to turn it back to the board for any additional follow-up well actually before I do that I want to ask if the applicant would like to address any of the issues there really weren't really many issues that the members of the public called in so Mr. Stanley is there anything you'd like to address based on what we heard from the public yeah I think the one thanks chair chair I the one that we we've heard um is about the parking and um it's I have to say that what we're trying to do here is looking at sustainability issues looking at the direction that the the city has been moving for a very long time and trying to find transportation solutions that can start to reduce the amount of money and space that we use to park cars so we are working with transform which is a transportation innovation non-profit that that helps development look at ways to reduce the use of cars we're also going to be implementing a car share program at the at the project for the residents so that you don't have to have a car if you don't want one the reality is is that most cars sit for 90 percent of the time and so for 300 square feet which is about what it takes to park a car and move it around you can actually house a human being and so we're really looking at this and cornerstone properties is really trying to be on the front edge of these new kind of transportation strategies and we're doing it with the help of those who are working within the space in the east bay and the south bay where there are obviously more transportation issues but also some of the same problems that you have when you have residential and reduced parking so we understand the concerns of the neighbor but there's no way for us to do this without trying it and that's the intention here is to try it that the city has already told us let's eliminate minimum parking requirements and we're taking that to heart so 0.75 parking spaces per unit is not radical by any stretch of the mad imagination it's it's different than what we're used to here but we are maturing as a city and I think this is one of the steps we need to take in order to do that thank you mr stanley okay back to the board so this is our opportunity now to make comment and ask any additional follow-up questions that you might have okay board member garrett there oh dear did my video quit because i i'm because i'm talking no that's still there good right can you hear me we can hear you okay um first of all i i would like to just reiterate that um i really appreciate the design of this project um i think it's i think it's actually excellent it it's um it's a lot better than it was in the initial phase and i appreciate that they that you're that they they are not mimicking the art the historic architecture but proposing a contemporary design it is after all a contemporary building and but it does nod definitely to the historic district with a large fenestration that you see in the storefronts of the historic district which the majority of this piece of property actually um will will interact with um and certainly with the fenestration it's the same and i think it also reflects the the basalt and the color of the base of the building and i agree with um i think it was mr richards who said that um you know applied brick um it is really not very attractive and i'm glad that that's not happening so i i give you um acolytes for the design um and i would ask that if you find in this first phase that the parking is a real problem for the neighborhood that you be open to um looking at providing more parking on the remainder of the site to alleviate that um i i know that parking is an issue in the um historic retail district and i know it's a problem in the neighborhood um i i have attended the sixth street playhouse um and i know that people park in the neighborhood when the parking at the playhouse gets filled up so um that's nighttime parking daytime parking is difficult as it is in that whole area so if there is a way you can relook um at the parking after this first phase of the building i would really appreciate it but kudos to you this is a fabulous project for this piece of property thank you thank you board member garrett other comments questions maybe what you're thinking i'll uh i'll jump in there um you know that the term compatibility is one of our findings is uh is an interesting term and that um and in this particular case i don't know that compatibility necessarily has to mean the same as all the other buildings in the area ie brick and and and warehouse like um i think if you build an apartment complex it should be something that built in a design that somebody wants to live there and uh i think it has a nice design and i and in the other part of compatibility is is is it compatible with the neighborhood because it not necessarily look like the rest of the neighborhood but is it compatible with the the rest of the neighborhood and and i also feel that it is and just from my travels of going to other cities and other historic neighborhoods where residential has been introduced it's it's a nice mix of modern building materials that architecturally complement the existing historic buildings so i i think that your design has done that as well um i'm also energized by the fact that we have so much support from the neighborhood and um so many times a very large project like this isn't going to get the support that that we've seen and that we've received um the lot was originally probably an industrial type use it's been vacant for quite some time has had a lot of issues on the vacant lot so i think even though the neighborhood knows there is probably going to be parking issues and and some other issues overall it's going to be an improvement to their neighborhood so those are just my kind of comments to the applicant at this point and i'll ask the other board members if anyone else would like to make a comment board member chris ellis hi um yeah just to reiterate i'm also really excited about this project and i really appreciated hearing from the members of the public who commented on it particularly neighbors in support one thing that comes to mind with the talk about increasing density downtown and really trying to improve the walkability of the neighborhood is you know not you know not pertinent to the specific project but just as a whole the next step we really need more grocery stores and amenities so people can you know not have to jump in their cars to go grocery shopping they could just walk in their neighborhood and and to grab groceries and hopefully that could help encourage folks to reduce dependency on cars but for this project just really appreciate the work that went into adjusting the designs and listening to the community so that's that's it thank you board member chris ellis any other board member comments okay same none um i'm wondering if we have a board member who would like to introduce the resolution we have before us tonight board member garrett board member gary you're muted right now i thought i unmuted myself sorry um i moved the resolution of the cultural heritage board of the city of san aroza approving a major landmark alteration permit for the downtown station smart site residential development a six story 114 unit residential development with 10.5 percent of the units designated affordable located at 634 west 6th street and 24th street and 24th street in the railroad square preservation district assessor's parcel numbers 010-166-003 and 010-171-019 file number lma21-008 and i will waive um the rest the reading of the rest of the text thank you board member garrett do we do we have a second board member boron if you can state it out loud for the record i uh second the motion that board member garrett just reviewed thank you board member boron okay so i'm gonna open up for discussion again before we vote and uh board member pretzels i i do want to um mention that if the architectural or archaeological archaeological archaeological thank you if if that is a um something that is important to you you could um at this point make a friendly amendment i think planar ross might have language that's prepared um that could be added to the resolution so um it sounded like it wasn't necessary so i i don't i don't need that in order to go okay thank you very much is there any other discussion before we take a vote tonight thank you miss from aloni i think we're ready to vote sounds good thank you chair mezer let's start with board member boron board member garrett i board member wall i board member pretzels hi nice chair fennel and chair mezer looks like we've got that item passes with six eyes okay congratulations to the applicant um thank you thank you so much to the board for your consideration tonight this is exciting for us as well so we can get moving yeah mr stanley i do i do want to say that um i really do appreciate the fact that you i was on the cultural heritage board um with the previous presentation and i appreciate you listening i appreciate you listening to the neighbors i know the neighbors are looking for that membership to the pool so don't forget that and uh and i look forward to uh seeing that project um being built thank you very much you like to thank planar rocks for all of uh i know the amount of work and effort that went into that and all the other city staff members and uh i also like to thank all the members of the public um who called in tonight and took the time to sit through the meeting and uh make your comments known um with that i don't think the cultural heritage board has any other um business tonight so and less um liaison murray or mr maloney say differently we're ready to close i think we're ready to close thank you everybody and if we don't see in december happy holidays yeah happy thanksgiving everybody and we'll see you at the next one bye