 You have been saying that. How many should we, how many of you drinking? How many of you drink? How much do you drink? Well, I had three quarters of a bottle of Jack when I started and now it's down to a quarter, so I have less than a quarter, I think. I've drank almost all of the bottle of room. How much, how big was this bottle? One percent. What percentage is it? I respect your ability to stay somewhat sober. It was a bottle of, oh it was one liter. Not bad. Not bad, but it was over the course of seven hours. So. What percentage is it? What, Captain Morgan's? 75 percent, that's how much. No, it's 35 percent. So half of what Rags's lie was. Wait, what? I laughed before I realized what was happening. 35 percent, that's what I was drinking a liter of. That's, that's quite a lot actually. You're a lot. I'm a parking lot. Yeah, hopefully we are live with a new thumbnail, a new link. I really hope this doesn't add on to the previous one. That'll be really embarrassing. Oh, are we live right now? Are we live currently? I said that already and you guys look. Oh, we are live. All right. Are we live? This is the time. What do we all face, this gentleman? I wish you'd made that clearer or I wouldn't have said so many slurs. Yeah, fucking racialist. Well, because before we actually came online, Jay and I were discussing if there was a, you know, what it would take to repeal the Emancipation Proclamation. Is that the musical? Well, I think once you get, once you get control of the Supreme Court, I think you're, you're quits in. Don't you think the Supreme Court is a pretty vain name for them? It's like with a Supreme Court. The Supreme Court. For me, I prefer the food court. Why can't we just call them the court? Also, is there another court? I don't think so. No, I think we. The big court. The big boy court. No, I'd like to go to a massive court. Above that and like the ultimate court or something. Is McCourt the best court? The court. The court. You know, while we're waiting for everybody to come back and prepare for this amazing thing that we're doing, I guess I'll set up us looking at some of the memes that have come in. Oh, yes. Give me a sec. Sausage radar. Sausage radar. Yeah, we'll get to it. Jason, start with your over-exaggerative exaggerations. All right. I desperately need to see sausage radar. We're going to get to it. I still have the TLJ script up as well. Figuring out why everything is terrible. You're not longer than we have on this map. I'm not seeing a stream up. You're not seeing a stream? Well, the chat is saying it's up. Well, if there's a chat, it's probably up. I mean, I believe the chat more than I believe you. Oh, hello. I see it now. We also have a meme video, but we will address the meme video once we're done with the video we're currently on. Okay. Never. And yeah, it has archived EFAP 40, so this should be 41 now. Hopefully everything works that way. I never know. Anyway, yeah, this is when you take a second. We got some memes that not everyone here will get. Don't worry, Shad. If you're confused by this, it'll only take a second and you'll... I'm confused very easily and it doesn't... Oh, no, Shad. Look out. Ah, duck. Hold on to your books. Oh, and just, I guess, if I were for everyone, I got kids in the background. So if you need kids screaming, that's just mind. Don't worry. They're killing each other. Oh, we won't. We won't worry. That's the problem. It just sorts itself out, right? I just realized that Wolf didn't love and I was like, something's wrong. I was like, oh, he's muted. There's no way Wolf wouldn't love this. Wolf would always laugh at the prospect of a dead child. No, that's not what this is. Wait, what? Yeah, he would. Okay, we'll have... Wolf, why are you not here? How do I do memes if you're not here, you piece of shit? Is he getting another burger? Another burger to pile on top of the other two burgers and a pizza? At this point... His anus is gonna be fucking crying tonight. We're at the point where... Come on, Wolf, we need you. I like to think those two statements weren't related. The duo of true evil. Who made that? Can you swing off it, though? I know. We got the sausage raider. I hope there's a patch for that. Oh, I fucking love this show. Okay, what's this? I hate yellow... Wolf, Wolf, go to the... Wolf, scroll up, Wolf. Is that Lyra Croft in a saucy? A duo of true evil. Oh, my God, we're making this for that reaction. There we go. Oh, this is bull, bull memes. The Dunslayer's gonna run it. It's even lore-friendly. What is this? That's Medea with the gauntlet and a rolling pin? Or rolling... What do you call those? A rolling pin. That was correct the first time. How did it feel? Well, I wasn't wrong for the first time in my life. I like the idea of a film where Rags and the Dawn hang out. I want to see it. So is Medea the villain here, or is there something else going on? Rags, you would not. You reckon? She got the Infinity Gauntlet? Isn't that the E-Fap Gauntlet? She's wearing the one from that previous piece of fan art that we had, remember? Wait, the one with the... All of our profile pictures on it, as the stones. I can't remember if it was that. It had features from all of E-Fap and stuff. Either way, it is time to see Beowyn's creation. Oh, my God! Sausage Raiders and the Adventures of Pipe Man. Good God, that's the stuff of nightmares right there. Oh, the weird folds in its body. This is horrible, but I like Blessed Pipe Man as a pipe. It's gorgeous and disgusting at the same time. It's terrifying and incredible at the same time. It's delicious and nutritious. I don't think that's delicious. Yeah, I don't know if I'd go that far, Rags. You're a weird man. What? Nothing. So, um, yeah, we've got to make sure the pipe man sees that at some point, I suppose. Either way, that's it for bonus meme round. Back to the video, right? Is everyone here? Chat, are you here? Yeah, I'm here. Beautiful. I still got three more minutes of this bullshit. I just want to fucking another video to respond to. I should only take us like three more minutes. God, I'm so tempted to just pick up my switch and play Zelda or something until this is done. 60%, that's what Critical Drink had demanded, right? 60%, fuck that. Okay, easy map on Mario Kart. The Endgame doesn't qualify here because this Thanos isn't the same one who killed Half the Universe. So that's a limitation on Endgame's part and the topic for another day. The last Jedi, meanwhile, features an emotional confrontation where Luke finally redeems his failure. Not emotional. How does he redeem his failure? Okay, so this is the whole problem in concepts. Like, first of all, we have to identify that it was a failure. Secondly, how is it that this theoretical failure was even redeemed? You know what I mean? We're stuck at every single part of this assumption. You could just as easily argue that Kylo failed to listen to the teachings of Luke as a JDM master. And failed to redeem himself in the moment where he could have. Everyone failed. Everyone's fucking retarded in this movie because Ryan Johnson's fucking retarded when it comes to writing scripts. Yes. Emotional. So emotional. Another day. The last Jedi, meanwhile, features an emotional confrontation where Luke finally redeems his failure and saves everyone. Failure is the greatest teacher, as Yoda said. And this final showdown ties into the theme of the movie. I don't know, nailing it the first time is probably pretty good. That's your opinion. How does Luke save everyone? Because I'm pretty sure like dozens, if not hundreds of rebel fighters got killed during all of them. The good guys don't even understand what Luke is doing. And then luckily for them, Rey happens to pick up all the stones in the back. Like, if that hadn't happened, everything that Luke did would have been totally pointless. And like, how does he even know what the situation is on Crate when he rocks up? You know what would have been really awkward? Is if everyone piles into the Falcon, they lift off and then it cuts two hucks on the ship. He goes, they're trying to escape. Keep track of them with our hyperspace tracker that we have very much established. And then they come out of hyperspace all cheering that they've made it. And then the first order entirely surround them and they kill them. Maybe that's going to be episode nine. Episode nine begins with like, oh my God. More, you've got this whole thing wrong. They're not tracking for smaller ships, remember? Almost like you're suggesting that they can hyperspace the Falcon in and out of the space chase. And they can carry almost like a hundred people on the Falcon, meaning they need four trips to save everybody on the ship. I don't know. That's not, that's kind of clumsy on the big screen though. That'd be such a shit story, wouldn't it? It's like we're being chased by the first all there's nothing we can do. Oh, we can just ferry them out on the Falcon one by one. Okay, we got that ship, remember? That we've established. Not even just the Falcon. Remember, Ray, not Ray. Rose and Finn do it on that little transport ship. They could probably fit a good 20 people on there at least. Yeah. Ray does his part though. It's important. Like, they jump in. Ray gets out in her escape pod and she goes into the, you know, flagship of the first order. She stole Snoke's ship, dude. We don't even know what that thing is or how much it can hold. Like, who knows? Yeah, but they're not tracking for small ships. So it's okay. You can do all that stuff. That is possibly one of the worst throwaway lines ever. It's like, how the fuck could Ray have possibly escaped the scenario? She took Snoke's escape ship. You're like, oh. Oh, just lying around? Oh, okay. Like, right over there? Oh. Very convenient. Can someone explain to me what a declocan scan is? Oh, that tick me off so damn much. A declocan scan? It's called DeepNude. It's a new app. Nice. We did talk about this the other day. But the concept of a technology that protects you from a scan and thus you create a scan that outdoes any scan protection technology, which is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard of. You're like, this scan will prevent scat-immune things from being scanned. You're like, what? Why wouldn't you just do this all the time? Exactly. Forever. Just call it the scan. The scan wars. Oh, it's like anime. It's like we've created something that's immune to X. It's like, yes, but now we've created something that's X plus. Well, we've created something that's immune to X plus. It's like, oh, for fuck's sake. This is what I said to you the other day, Moe. It's insulting to anime. Anime is better. No. It's really bad anime. No, it's a perfect example of writing yourself into a corner and then trying to write yourself out of it and then writing yourself into another corner and just having to constantly do that. Corner war. Over and over. Yeah, technically. If anyone uses a cloak in Star Wars from now on, we're going to be thinking, why don't they use a cloak instead of the black ones? Why don't they just ram their fucking ship into it? Exactly. What even is a cloak in the context of Star Wars? Like, when I think about cloaking devices, I think of like Klingon Bird or Phrase. Well, typically it is. Well, you know, when a cloak in Star Wars is just going to be like a cloth you put on your shoulders. Typically, it'll make it so that you're invisible to the naked eye, but a scan will still pick it up. And it's like, no, this is immune to scans, too. You're like, oh, wow. Okay, cool. But it's not immune to decloaking scan scans. You're like, what? Yeah. It's like a super scanner. A super scanner. It was developed as an experimental blah, blah, blah. It's like someone's going to hit you with a sword and you're like, I have a shield. And it's like, yeah, but this is a shield killing sword. I'm sorry. What? This is a shield proof sword. Shield proof. Oh yeah? Well, I brought my sword proof shield. Oh no. No. Don't let them touch. Don't let them touch. Don't touch. But I only use it sometimes. Yeah. Not literally all the time. I only listed out on special occasions like bar mitzvahs and sword fights. I'm not even kidding when the guy says, we ran a decloaking scan and we can detect. It's like, what? Why weren't you running that previously? It's very expensive and our budget got cut a little bit last year. The whole film explodes when he said, well, the whole film explodes several times. Like, if they don't use a cloaking scan every time, what makes them decide that they better use it? Like they would need some information of where the ship is or the Tesla to bother scanning for cloak ships. It's like, it just doesn't make sense. Someone says, regarding the decloaking military advancement. Someone said, regarding decloaking military advancement. He's still cutting out. He's still cutting out. Oh my God. What are you saying? Military. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Okay. Let's try it again. Regarding decloaking military advancement exists. That's what hobo Frodo said. Thank you hobo Frodo. What a hobbit still about war. You've shared light on this whole situation. Yeah. And honestly, I'm not questioning the fact that they might be able to develop a skin that can break cloak. I'm questioning the fact that they don't use it constantly if they have it. They decide we'll just use this one off now because that's the whole point. Yeah, but is it like you can only use it for like 10 minutes at a time or it will burn out your scanner or something? You know that the kind of hack riot has to come with it. So we ran the cloaking set. Why didn't you run it earlier? We can only run it once per 10 hours. Why? Because it's on a check. We have to recharge it. The batteries can only take so much or else they're overloaded. There's this guy who has to run a little fucking turbine. He's running a thing. You know how you get those torches that only work if you spend a thing? They have to 6,000 hamsters on hamster wheels. It's like, it's captain. I cannot do it. I cannot do another thing. You can't change the rules of physics, captain. Fucking terrible movie. It's like riding a horse and you're trying to shoot the bullet with another bullet while upside down and blindfolded. Do you remember EFAP? I think it's like EFAP 7. It's the one where we have a logic dot and we're talking about how to make the bomb drops make sense. They magnetize to their targets. And then someone makes a joke about how you have a gun that shoots bullets that magnetize to their targets to kill them. And it's like, why do you fucking shoot a bullet? Why do you need to magnetize it? It's like almost like Warhammer 40K kind of over-engineering to every kind of possible. It's like the army is ran by retards. We need the exterminatus protocol. We need a double exterminatus. We have, okay, so there's three new memes that I want to show just because Shad might be leaving before we can see them. So we've got to make sure he sees them. One sec. Sorry, I'm very drunk right now. I'm not drunk, I'm just fat. I saw that in Twitter. Alright, a couple of inaccuracies here. So this contemporary artistic rendition isn't very realistic. I love how the name of the boss is a Scaly Boy. Scaly Boy. Then we got this one. Danger Noodle. That's what I was like when I saw this stream. I was like, who's the fuck? And then, you know, when you get bail when making memes after you, that's when you know you've succeeded. You made it big. How awesome is that, dude? You got his gambeson and everything. That is brilliant, I love it. I love how the stakes is like, but why? I was only snaking, it's what I do. Seriously though, in Australia, that's enough justification to get rid of them. And I know people, people got really ticked off when I shared that in the video. It's nice to protect it. I'm like, you guys have... We understand, like, fucking everything in Australia is out to kill you, so you might as well just get in there first. There are reasons why me, Wolf, Rags, everyone won't visit Australia. It's populated with criminals from... We will get on a boat, we will go up to the shore and wave to you. We'll be like, hey, man. Yeah, the prison food over there better be a fucking stellar. The prison food is great. So, is everyone... Would you know from first-hand experience to explore... Well, all of Australia is a prison. What are you talking about? Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. People in the chat are calling you Shads. They cut out. Really? Damn it. This is pissing me off. What are they calling him in chat, Wolf? Shad Snake Slayer. That makes sense. I'll take that title. Failure is the greatest teacher, as Yoda said, and this final showdown ties into the theme of the movie beautifully. It's also beautiful. How do you even say that when you said... Okay. Hey, we waited four seconds, everybody. So beautiful. What is... Tell me what the theme of the movie is and how this... It's such a fucking... Tism reading. It's like... Failure is the best teacher. Luke failed and he learned from it. There you go, best movie ever. But let's try and strongman his point, right? So... Because look, you can learn more from failure. So what is Luke learning from his failure? If I was to steelman his point, I would then say in response to you, Luke didn't... Luke, when looking into the future, potentially or premonition upon Kylo, judged too quickly to try and solve a problem instead of thinking it through and caused a villain to be created. And in this scenario, when Kylo is trying to, like, say, hey, you fucked up, you did everything, he doesn't choose to deny that claim. He simply says, yes, and life goes on, and you can... But if he learned from that, then wouldn't he be trying to save Kylo now? But he, Kylo asks if he's trying to save him. And he's like, nope, nope. So he hasn't really learned from that yet. Luke Skywalker learned the very valuable lesson that murder isn't always the first solution to any problem that you have. Sometimes it's the second. Sometimes it's a close second. If he's learning from something, because he doesn't want to redeem Kylo, maybe the thing he is learning is that I should have just killed him then. Why did I hesitate? Yeah, I was like, I should have killed him faster. Imagine that was the glorious awk that Luke experiences. He tells Rey, you need to kill your family members and realize they'd be helpful. Kill them before they can kill you and make you live better. Rey has, like, a moment where she introspectively realizes how, like, glorious and altruistic battle... Yeah, that would have solved a lot of my problems if I just killed Kylo in that throne room, huh? Yep. Yeah. Death is good. I'm confused as to... I said this kind of before, like, he goes into the nitty-gritty of the events of Endgame to prove that Thor's story is kind of fucky. But then when he gets to TLJ, he's only broad. Very broad and basically inaccurate. Come on, dude. And by the way... It's almost like he doesn't actually have an argument to support his point. He just wants to compare two things that don't actually stand up to comparison. And I just want to say, the guy who made this video, welcome to come on EFab to talk about this, because, good God, I don't think this second portion of the video holds up to scrutiny whatsoever. It ties into the theme of the movie beautifully. It's also beautiful to see Luke speaking hopefully about the future during... What do you mean he says no? He says no to saving Kylo's soul. He's always been in a dark place throughout this movie. Luke is not known for saving people. Yeah, he doesn't really come back from it. I mean... Yeah. He, like, depresses me to think of what Luke did in that scene as a positive. It's like... I actually have trouble remembering everything about the last Jedi, because I've tried so hard to excise it from my mind and pretend... Welcome to EFab. But does Luke at any point make the decision that, okay, we should keep the Jedi around? Because I can't remember if he does that. All he says is that I'm not the last Jedi. He never says that the Jedi are ultimately a good thing and should continue. He implies that in my field. Even though apparently I've read Leaks and you never know how valid these are, there's no way going on to create a new Jedi Order that she's leading, which fucking infuriates me. Right. Of course, Ray would have to fucking think of that. Fuck you, Luke. Ray gets to do it. Imagine her teaching people what a Jedi is. Like, how the fuck would you know? Just be good at it. Two days ago, I thought they were a myth. I'm basically a Jedi master now, though. Oh, yeah. And for people saying, is there anything hopeful Luke says in that sequence, I'm not suggesting that there's nothing he says is hopeful. It's just the idea that he says to save my soul. He says no. It's like, how the fuck? Someone said it wasn't murder. It's surprise. Surprise forever sleep. What? Make sure Wolf doesn't leave early this stream. Next one will have him. Oh, Wolf, you're not allowed to leave now. Bayowin's got a surprise drawing coming. That's gonna excite you. This stream? Apparently. It's not much of a surprise now, is it? Oh, you'll forget about it by the time it comes around. Wolf just focused on the marinara. I'm just focusing on killing this squid pepperoni. Racist. Hopefully about the future during this confrontation. When he was in such a dark place, the whole movie. His death scene is really powerful. Because of the visual. That's it. Yeah. Unironically, argue to me why his death scene is meaningful beyond the fucking visual. What does Luke actually accomplish in this movie? What does he learn? What does he do? He dies. Frustrated to no end. That if he found... He got the telegram on this island. They go, yes, all the resistance died by the way. Even though you did what you did. I thought it helped. I guess I didn't. Everything depends on Ray having picked them all up from the back. I guess he just knew that because he's omniscient. Depending on what causes his death. Because either it was the projection that made him so weak. But then he didn't die. He became one with the force. Which is an intentional thing. So maybe he did it just before he was going to physically die. So he could become one with the force stuff. It's all a choice he's making. He chose not to fly with Ray there or anything like that. And the question is why. What is it achieving? That's the thing. Did he really choose not to go with Ray or scared? Ultimately he sort of overcome his fear in order to project himself to the other side of the galaxy and then die anyway. You guys like this majority speculation? We don't really even know. Not great. When it comes to Luke you get so little from this screenplay. You have to infer most of it. Fuck it. I hate this movie. The movie created my career. It's not pointless. Shut up. That's like saying Obi-Wan's death scene is pointless. Watch a movie for its theme. No. You can't relate Luke's death scene to Obi-Wan's scene and say like, how is it that you don't like this movie? You can say that. We addressed this in the last stream as well. There's a lot of reason that you can actually find with Obi-Wan that when you look at Luke you just start getting confused. Everybody has a different account and they conflict. Obi-Wan look at his character throughout A New Hope. He always seemed like he knew what he was doing. He was there to impart a bit of wisdom to Luke. He was there to get him started on his journey. He served a logical purpose within the story. We all got it. We all understood it. Then you look at Luke in Last Jedi and he's fucking nothing. He's just this confused mess of a character. The screenplay doesn't know what they want him to do. We don't know what he's supposed to be. He's just there. He says random bullshit lines to Rey, tries to teach your lessons that don't mean anything. It all comes to nothing. Because the people who wrote his character didn't know what he was supposed to be. They resented him even being in it. Did I tell you guys? This is a thing that was said by I think it was Ryan Johnson. It's going to be in part 3 or 4 of my TFA series when I finally release it. Luke Mark was confused when asked what the third lesson was because he obviously was like it wasn't one. When Ryan Johnson is asked about it and again it could be someone else's quote and I'm pretty sure it says they say the third lesson is to be interpreted by the audience. If that was that's a cop out. It's like 101 how to be a shit writer. You forgot to do X. No, it's there. Have you seen the deleted scene for this? Which one? Well Luke pretends that there's going to be a raid going on on the island well if you try and stop this they're going to come back twice as bad next time that sort of thing and Ray can't help herself. She runs in to try and stop it and ultimately it's just like a big party going on with the local space nuns told. Yeah, whatever they are. So EFAP 40 has been blocked worldwide by the way. What the fuck why? There's a copyright claim on it so if I find out what it is I'll just edit and re upload a vision that doesn't have whatever the hell they're complaining about in it. Don't worry about it guys and I'll challenge whatever the fucking claim is. I guarantee you it's a meme video. It's always a meme video. Apparently it's from Warner Brothers so it could be any movie they've made. Sorry guys you're going to have to wait a while before you can re-watch that if you want to. YouTube cares about its kinds of creators. I want to talk a little bit more. Yeah, we're just going to say that scene that was cut. Even that doesn't know what the fuck it wants to say about Luke and about the Jedi and everything because his entire take on that is like well we need people like you who are willing to like run in and save the galaxy. You don't need me. Isn't that the exact opposite of what you should be teaching her? Mm-hmm So just with also the running and help people but ultimately you might make things worse because you don't know the bigger context of what's going on. Someone said you don't think the third lesson is what it be but it do. Interesting question from Logan Looker. Mola, honest question. Where do you draw the line between writing a movie to interpreting a movie? It's entirely dependent on your references. If you tell me like X happened and I ask you for a scene to reference it well you're supposed to sort of see that with the between the scenes that we see. It's like hmm. Does it appear in like if you were looking at a script or like a written version of the play of the movie is it there? If it's not then chances are it might very well be interpretive. If you can reasonably infer it from what you see on screen fair enough but if not then you're just trying to write the script for it. I'm not saying this is easy. It takes a lot of discussion to really find out the difference but most of the time the easy answer would be you have a reference versus you only have like literally don't you think that you could get that from this scene and then this scene? It's like hmm. A good example actually would be I'm one of the people who tries to defend vision and Scarlet Witch's relationship but the majority of it is just what you have happened between significant events which isn't necessarily enough for the payoff they have in Infinity War which is great but you need more time of them being together and I actually am a big advocate for Iron Man 4 which takes place between Civil War and Infinity War and it would be a world where half of the Avengers are vigilantes and the other half have to do work according to the accords and you get to have scenes where vision and Scarlet Witch are dealing with whatever basically you get to an Iron Man coordinates with Wakanda to invent his retarded nanotechnology it still actually bothers me that he casually has nanotechnology in Infinity War so it's like oh that's something he has now and a lot of people don't get it it's because of Wakanda and it's like we never saw that happen but okay As long as you've got the magic bullshit mineral that can do anything and solve any problem then it's fine and so if someone said their relationship is great you can infer that they would have spent a lot of time together it's like we kind of need to see that to enable the moment where she has to kill him being extremely meaningful and I still think it's meaningful I just think that they're missing out on a lot of power by not having a see them together more like we get one bringing it back to the last Jedi I was gonna say like a lot of people not infer that Rey kind of absorbed her skills and abilities from Kylo Ren when he was trying to like fuck that dude that's what people do they're like oh well the reason she's so fucking amazing about everything is because she absorbed all of his skills when he tried to like that is apparently canon it's in the books that's the thing that happens you can't just say I wrote this in a book and released the book therefore the films make sense now it's like no I love that the books are trying to fix everything yeah I feel bad for the authors of the books they're so unrelated to the the screenplay I don't envy the guy that had to make the novelization of the last Jedi at all he must have had like the worst time of his life trying to justify that shit like whatever you're paying me I want to raise I feel so bad for them because they don't even get recognition too they're the ones that have to try and fill all the gaps and nobody gives a shit like who even cares who wrote the novelization of T.L.J the only names everyone remembers are Johnson and J.J Abrams maybe that's a good thing though because it's not like those names have a lot of respect right now in critical corners of the internet know what I mean I have no idea what might be for Irwin better to not be hated you know it just it blows my mind that people like sensible people who are probably quite intelligent and day-to-day life will defend this movie well they would look at you the same way in reverse they'd be like intelligent people criticize this movie yeah but I'm always like okay fine tell me why you like it tell me why it's good have you seen what occupancy usually this is the thing you're talking to people who've done I want to say at least five streams on T.L.J some of the video is bad some of those videos but it's all based on emotion it's all just like well okay you know I liked it because it made me feel a certain way it captures the spirit and that's fine on an emotional level that's really subjective and I'm not going to take that away from you but like objectively you must look at the script you must look at the that's where you're entering a problem a lot of people think there's no such thing as objectively assessing art but if you have an objective standard to go by well it doesn't matter who cares about your objective standard that only applies for you you valued it who cares no but if the standard is understood for instance like consistency someone does something that establishes something that's now should be canon and then they completely contradict it later on you could say quite objectively that that was bad true but the person's response will be I value the theme far over I value whether or not the space makes sense that the bomb would fall at that speed that's an assessment on what an individual values which is subjective and it doesn't undermine the objective standard that only applies for corrective they would say that they do not value the value you've brought up and they wouldn't even give a shit about it and my response to that is that I wouldn't I don't really care what you value in this regard they would say the same back to you this is what I mean it's like a spiral well this is why I don't argue that it says I don't think you the whole premise of a fucking story is progression a story is built on the idea of progressing A to B to C to D so it's not an arbitrary standard this is literally the thing that it is so it's an objective issue whether or not you consider the standard or not I don't care it's an objective issue so if they were like I don't care that Yoda cast lightning just because the other force goes don't do shit all in the OT that doesn't mean there's a problem it's like it's a massive problem absolutely massive problem it fucks everything up and you go no that's your problem with the massives it's a subjective issue that you have and no one else does and so you're full of shit we need to get one of these people on this dude you need to watch EFAP with major Lee me and rags debated a man who enjoys this movie it was a disaster rags how would you describe it it's famous for saying that you should just look at women and that's a reason to like the movie critical drinker you need to check this shit out you'll love it you'll be able to look into the mind of someone who defends rags you there it's funny what rags remembers that experience like this is the weird thing I like to think of myself as a fairly person and like I could talk to someone who defends this movie like just you know we'll have a conversation about why you think it's good and I'll put my points across you can put your points across but I feel like they won't be able to do that because they'll just get angry that someone doesn't like it we have experience in the field and we will tell you that it's a fruitless endeavor but we will continue to engage in it hoping that one day we'll be proven wrong in that assessment seriously they'll check out the major lead debate fun fact about the major lead debate is that I was listening to it live and then I was living in student accommodation at the time and I locked my key in my room and then listened to it through the door of my room because and how was that experience Jay? it was really fun I had to wait for fucking hours for someone to go and then as they were unlocking the door they were like who's this guy who defended TLJ and you're like you wouldn't understand that's how long it took by the time they unlocked my door you had finished and you know how long eFAPs are oh no you were sitting outside your six hour that's what I was supposed to say yeah that was a long eFAP from what I remember or at least it felt long I can't remember if it was a long I locked my phone in my room as well so I had to wait for my flatmate to get home and he could call people to let me into my room wait who do you think put up the better fight Jay the not so great debate or majorly oh I haven't watched the not so great debate oh dude okay wait fuck I guess I'm the only person here outside of rags who experienced both of them and he's muted so I who who do I think put up a fuck I'll leave it to chat chat who put up the better defense the not so great debate or mr majorly I'm curious the not so great debate the not so great debate there was incredible it was not so great the reason why I called it the not so great debate his argument was based around not actually seeing the movie and how he paused the whole debate while he looked up clips I wouldn't look on it his defense was better because he had kind of reasons even if the reasons were oh yeah but it was cool yeah it seems to be that chat is either saying majorly was the better defender or that it was neither of them there's one okay I see one guy saying it was the not so great the better one yeah this is the thing that's a great debate is literally like dumb as a oh blessed southpaw said not so great with the medical I feel like this is something we should do a straw pull for how you know it was a good debate the arrival debate hey wolf you like the arrival right yeah I like other people who said we were wrong couldn't agree with each other as to why we were wrong this kind of sort of proves our point the arrival is a confusing movie there's no doubt hey critical drinker have you seen the arrival I have indeed yeah what do you think I thought it was kind of shit and actually like I'm gonna say it was a lot more simplistic than it would have you believe like when you actually bow down the plot of it there wasn't an awful lot going on that it well I'm trying to think of how I can put this concisely is that the one with Hawkeye in it yes he talks the future telling spiders if you can if you can bind to the idea that Amy Adams gonna have a kid in like 10 years in the future when she's already like like okay fair enough that's kind of what it boils down to it's all about the human kind of bullshit problems that they have rather than the actual contact with the aliens I've put the vote up wait we'll put a triple up yes I will post it in discord for you guys this is interesting actually I didn't realize so a lot of people do think that they're not so great they're great fucking hell not so great debate guy did put up a fight that was I honestly thought majorly was way better than him I think so too I think that the not so great debate is more entertaining I agree with that actually yeah oh yeah the not so great debate was like watching a guy come to some kind of realization like live on air it was like watching someone lose their religion uncomfortably it was like watching a flat earth there realize that the earth is round you really have that moment where they pause and it's like just the moment where he's trying so desperately to defend something and then he's trying in the middle of it if your vote is neither or both just don't vote you fine just leave it don't worry this vote is only for those who think one or the other was better than the other moller is pulling it so much but moller moller no vote is a vote for trump how do you I I'm going to divorce you if you continue to vote for trump which means I think you mean don't vote you can't talk about this you refuse to rim job him you're complicit in this moller because remember trump is literally Hitler I don't is that true is he litter is he the literal incarnation of heat law well if twitters to be believed then he is yeah was trump born after Hitler died because if that's true then he is the reincarnation I mean he is an old man he is an old man but he's like 72 or something speaking of 72 it reached 72% on major leaf for a moment there and it is once again there we go guys confirmed 72 okay yeah so it's confirmed objectively that it's the absolute truth that major was a better debater than not so great debate guy I can't imagine a worse debate than the fucking major well go watch the not so great debate and you'll find the worst later on the entirety of his arguments were going come on well the entirety of the debate guys arguments were something to the effect of well you see Luke is old and my personal favorite dude I'm axing you dude is this part of the disney fanatical star wars universe go back and watch now Jay tell me what is I feel bad for you will because you tried so hard to pin him down on what the fuck a disney fanatical universe was I never ever like I presumed he tried to say fantastical or something like that I think the whole overall point is that disney canon means that you don't consider any canon previously I think that's what his whole point was I guess he was trying to say like it's that same old argument of like oh it's space wizards with laser swords and stuff so you can't hold any kind of standards to it and it's like well I hate arguments like that if you're going to go by that if you're going to go by that argument and then like you know Ray could like jump up into space and punch the death star in the face and blow up with like a single punch or something like that the death star's face that's got his face I just thought it was a ball with an anus it's got it's got a dish or something you could probably punch that what was it yeah the major lead debate there's a progression at one point so he opens with say something like it was obvious that Kylo Ren and Ray were in love is evidence in total is they touched fingers and by the time we talk about it for a good half an hour what he wants us to definitively agree with is not that they were in love which is what he's previously stood for he moves the goalposts all the way over to you have to admit that there's something happening between the two of them we're like okay we don't disagree with that statement you know just for shits I might actually watch the not so great debate again because I haven't seen that since we had it I said that we were gonna I was gonna watch it again but I completely forgot to I definitely would can we get that can we get that guy back again major lead I don't know where to find the guy from the not so great debate just get him on this major lead now no major lead made me sad did he make you major lead sad no he made me extremely sad he made me fanatically sad fanatic star wars universe sad in a disney in a disney fanatically way very sad people are all addressing me on twitter saying that e-fap 40 is down that makes me sad yeah no you can tell rags gets like angry at major leo I think I do too I was supposed to try and be the neutral party I keep trying to like sort of level it out but I get super frustrated when he starts talking about it I like it how you don't even know the name of the second guy the guy from that debate you didn't even know I don't even know what his name is I don't either oh yeah but that's the first oh fuck I don't know what's happening he was in the debate that was the wolf and guy the infamous guy didn't have name right did guy have name I don't remember he had discord name but it's been a year since that happened what's the chances that he's even still alive after all this well he's lying probably died from an accident dude he did I mean honestly if he is dead it might be for the better oh people are saying yeah so what's gonna happen is I'll download wait if I can if it's block worldwide can I download e-fap 40 at that point I don't know either way it'll come back up oh night you can't live it's blocked worldwide fuck rake well I'm gonna have to contest the claim to get it then oh you can shadow play it well that's what do you mean I can't at this point right cause it's cancelled what service do you use to download youtube videos it's obviously youtube premium right cause it's the only one you're supposed to use no I don't use that we will refer to him as run either way either way this insane e-fap double bill will be delayed I cannot upload part 2 before part 1 so however long it takes it just can't be done it ain't right even the disney fanatical star wars universe so make sure you hang on to this url folks this is the url you have right now you need it bookmark that shit that's the only way you can view this right now well until it gets blocked worldwide oh this one shouldn't get I'm assuming it's a meme that got blocked by the way the problem with memes is I always feel awful trying to pause the memes cause they're really funny but when they do film ones I'm like I want to let it run but then fucking things like you're trying to sell the movie to make money it's like have you seen what we're looking at it's not anyway is everybody happy for me to to continue the video I'm really happy it was a video yes we're doing it it's not pointless shut up that's like saying obi-wan's death scene is pointless watch a movie for its themes and subtleties for once instead of taking everything can you make this argument to him about Thor in Endgame don't even go there I found the name of the not so great debate guy oh his name was death and carn and he plays roblox death and carn he plays roblox tell me he's on lane right now can he handle roblox I don't know I'm not friends with him why not why would I be wow that's fucking cruel also whoever made that picture that red picture with the three of us discord it to me I want it is he still not done that the guy who did it may not be viewing right now you gotta wait for him yeah he of course he is he might not be rags he must be and no chat it's not death and carn it it's literally just death and carn I don't think he understood what oh I love carn is it carn that's in like I love carn in the comic it's the word and it's death and carn and it just ends there it's like he forgot that there were three more letters in the word is carn like a different area in which death occurs differently is carn like a I think that's just where his brain stopped functioning oh what happens if you die in Nebraska death and carn just think though like that debate that he had with you guys that was like probably the highlight of his life I don't think that was the highlight of his life I think that was literally the worst day of his life yeah that was his shot that was his shot that was his shot of greatness you know he didn't take it I wonder if his opinion of T.L.J. has changed since then I wonder if he death and carn people are seeing each other I highly doubt it because I mean remember that by the blue ray of the last Jedi right we were like no that was such a bad moment anyway we're supposed to be watching a video guys just to clarify is 6th and the highest number of people that have ever been on e-fab at the same time no we've had 12 I think that's a lie it was eventually once you actually get past 6 it starts two rows so there's like a row on top of this one so it's like a double decker oh damn podium that's how it works nobody join please I'll invite all my friends huh I'll invite all my friends okay oh they just got here I see yeah I don't think but to answer your question legitimately I don't think we've ever had 7 6th is the best alright time to get 7 frog old are you in line I'd like to join if you wanting 7 anyway let's watch a movie for its themes and subtleties for once instead of taking everything at face value stop complaining that old man cap makes no sense it's beautiful but it doesn't make sense it's not beautiful it's actually kind of it no you can't just say but it's beautiful but it's pretty this is like the look at the trees that's essentially saying because I liked it all criticisms are invalid but the cinematography but it was so beautiful this is where all these people come from though it's like it's all about what it made them feel it made me feel happy inside so it doesn't matter about any criticism it doesn't matter if it makes sense all all I care about is like my emotions my feelings are worth far more than any stupid cold hard fact yeah exactly the thing is the old man cap can make sense how it could be an old sea captain if you look at the time travel from a parallel dimension time travel it can make sense I did a video on this guys how did he get back into their timeline if he traveled into a parallel the main mcu timeline was a parallel timeline that was created from having traveled back in time because he would have had to have been present the old man cap would have been present through all the mcu what happened and Peggy Carter was the one that she was married to was old man cap and he was just hiding off and she was lying but then he never took part he never took part in any of the the world shaken events that were going on during that that makes him a little bit of an asshole the question is he might feel that the good guys did win in most instances they did bring back everyone from the Thanos snap and he might have felt that he already had a role to play in trying to save the world and so he had retired how did he manage that conversation with the red skull when he had to return like the soul stone that would have been an interesting conversation I would have liked to have seen that the red skull is a great villain in the comic books and if they bring him back that would be cool but I would have to see how did he return the stone to Natalie Portman he had to use America's ass he had to use freedom powers I have challenged the copyright on number 40 I hope it comes through soon but YouTube isn't exactly kind to its creators we'll have to wait folks just enough it's great who put the claim in Warner Brothers they're not as bad as Zephyr they're like the second place though Warner Brothers are by far one of the worst are they I know Zephyr is really bad Disney let go of some claims pretty quickly in my experience sometimes they let go of the Captain Marvel the Zephyr Sony pictures yeah Zephyr is terrible Warner Brothers fucking suck for that all of the videos that I've got blocked in places have been from have you managed to have a counter claim and win no I've never won a counter claim with them so I don't bother anymore with the Warner Brothers claim because they don't block it they just block it in the states well I mean my ultimate thing will just be that I'll edit a version that doesn't have whatever the hell they claim do you claim on fair use oh yeah absolutely dude when you literally have a scene from the Hobbit which is what I assume may have gone down because I played the Hobbit one quite long with all these texts on the front and all the fucking completely different sound track and all this laughing and commenting on it you put that in court they would just be like how the fuck is this you trying to repurpose the Hobbit as a piece of work to actually have people enjoy and make money from completely fucking different it's absolutely fair use it's parody in the highest sense but you know and I wouldn't want anybody who I wouldn't want anybody who's making memes to feel responsible it's my bad for not pausing enough honestly sometimes I get too immersed in memes as we all do every time I get a copyright claim and I say no this is fair use and I send it to them and if they still dispute it after the fact that means they're saying they watched it and they're saying it's not fair use I threaten to sue them for harassment because they know it's categorically fair use I've told them and I've told them to sue them for the lost revenue and the stress that it's causing me and every time I've done that they've released a claim but that's just me isn't it nice though when they release the claim after like 90% of you so yeah that's always fun so you make fuck all out of it basically yeah it's a form of harassment because they know it's fair use they're just abusing the youtube system which is grounds for the termination of a youtube account by the way and you can get your account terminated if you do it it's a whole thing if you appeal a decision that went against you potentially they can do it I don't know how often it happens I've had a copyright strike I've had to appeal and it was lifted because it was fair use but it's not nice getting the strike don't get me wrong that sucks if you had a full strike on your channel then yeah lines gate the scum bags fuck them hey look I don't know if you guys have the same pause as the stream does right now but there was probably a guy editing this where a laser goes to the behind of Luke and he's cut it really badly the editor has two gaps between Luke and the laser because they probably were limited on the the abilities of special effects at that point that's really obvious what's happening on it so there's a laser traveling behind Luke that's obviously missing him from a gun they've edited what you need to do at that point is draw a big red line and then cut it out where Luke is to make it look as if it's shooting from behind him but they've overcut it significantly what I'm seeing on the stream apparently is Luke with a lightsaber you shouldn't be saying that I'm seeing old Captain America you gotta go on the actual stream my actual stream not on watch together I am on the stream page there's where the plugs watch it I refreshed it and it works yeah some special effects limitations I suppose it's okay I'm gonna draw it back to 740 just to make sure everyone comes with me future during this confrontation when he was in such a dark place the whole movie his death scene is really powerful it's not pointless shut up that's like saying Obi Wan's death scene is pointless watch a movie for its themes and subtleties for once instead of taking everything at face value stop complaining that old man cat makes no sense it's beautiful speaking of which that's the final nail in the coffin for Thor he has no end game in this movie it really feels like they didn't know what to do with him at the end compared to the masterful ending maybe this isn't his end yeah this isn't his end he's literally the next guardian yeah it's assuming his arc had to have been wrapped up in that movie and I mean there's already precedent that character arcs extend beyond one movie with what happened in Ragnarok and also Infinity War and stuff I'm getting I'm getting a bit tired of the whole like Thor's not ready for leadership kind of angle because they've been pulling that shit for like the past five movies and it's getting a bit old now you know like how much more does he have to go through in order to be worthy of leadership no I think he was established he is worthy even after the first one he was ready I think he actually kind of doesn't want to he wants to be out adventuring and doing the hero thing yeah he's a free spirit he has that like a character flaw because the first movie is like learning humility second one is learning I suppose how to deal with loss and then third could be how to deal with your people when they're facing out of destruction I don't know there's a couple things you could probably how to deal with more loss basically he loses his dad well this is how to deal with super loss like I hate to be the guy trying to make Thor 1 and 2 really matter as a separate important thing it's complicated because I fucking those movies suck it's the same reason why I adore the Russo's for making Iron Man 3 worth it like Iron Man 3 now matters in his arc instead of destroying his arc I'll never stop appreciating them for doing that and so they made it so that Iron Man's PTSD matters while Iron Man 3 was laughing at Iron Man for having PTSD which really fucking bothered me a lot of people are like ha ha you think that Iron Man 3 is bad when it gives him the idea of a hero experiencing PTSD due to the crazy antics he has and I was like yeah they also fucking make it a joke in that movie several times while Civil War you can absolutely argue a shit ton of the decisions Iron Man makes is because he still has PTSD he's still experiencing problems he's still trying to figure out what the correct decision is and he falters in places and it's very in line with Tony Stark's character one of his greater motivators in you know from the first one and stuff is guilt it's all characters based on the idea that he keeps trying to redeem himself for the mistakes he makes and Ultron is major yeah absolutely Iron Man 3 is almost like I have managed to fix everything no no no no no no no no no no no no fuck Iron Man 3 and then age of Ultron and Civil War like yeah fuck Iron Man 3 it's a shame if Ultron had been better developed as a character and as a villain it would have worked so well but as it was he was almost like kind of a comic clown sort of character yeah this is the thing defending age of Ultron I think Civil War makes use of age of Ultron and Iron Man 3 however I still think age of Ultron is better than Iron Man 3 yeah there's some great moments with age of Ultron particularly when he's talking about vision and like that was his ultimate you know goal for himself that was his well his vision for what he wanted to be and that was taken away from him and it's quite well conveyed the whole theme of that movie is like potential squandered because of flaws within a person within an idea and it carries through with everything and it actually plays out pretty well it's just it relies too much on comedy and humor with Ultron I was so I think that the age of Ultron trailer is better than the movie way better and it's a shame isn't it like the idea that Ultron is this extremely menacing realization for the heroes but in the movie he's this goofy idiot yeah it is hard to take him seriously as a villain fucking yeah okay well we don't want to get sidetracked we'll continue we don't want to get sidetracked we don't want to get sidetracked it really feels like they didn't know what to do with him at the end compared to the masterful endings Tony and Steve got in the grand scheme of things Thanos was just a minor slip up in the middle of his story I don't agree with that at all no the fact that he blames himself so drastically for not killing Thanos when he had the chance that's a big thing for his character arc and it sent him into a spawn and when he's with the guardians and he's like where are we going what are we doing lololol I'm gonna back and forth him with quill I might be alone on this but I was like oh man Thor's totally trying to gloss over everything that's happened there's a lot we can deal with here but again it's based on what they do with it because I feel like we've got the groundwork but you could fuck it or you could save it they're not gonna do it I don't think they're gonna do anything with it like I said I've been disappointed before but I've also been surprised in the next movie I wouldn't expect Thor to still suffer the PTSD of the events of Endgame I would probably open within being overly happy and then characters ask him about the events of what happened because they're kind of unaware of it and then as the movie progresses you see that the demeanor he's holding is just a fucking glamour basically it's James Gunn it is James Gunn we'll see but honestly if you told me which one would you think it would do it would do my idea or your assumption I'd be like I think you're more on the money I don't think they're gonna do it I fucking hope they do though just like I hope Far From Home is a great movie but a lot of people already be like I don't think it's gonna be good why people think it's not gonna be good because a lot of people don't like homecoming those people are wrong for once I actually agree with Jay on something one day that debate will happen that means Tony and Steve what rock have you been living under that you don't know that people don't like homecoming there are people in the chat right now who hate homecoming everybody who hates homecoming put a H in the chat H wait homecoming was dumb homecoming was trash CJ where have you been Jay well that was two people you can always find two people oh Jesus Christ right everyone don't be shy if you thought homecoming was underwhelming no garbage we thought it was garbage put a H in the chat because I'm pretty sure there's a lot of those people Vulture was cool though that's weird because I think it's one of the top three in the MCU as do I I enjoyed homecoming there were parts in it that annoyed me but overall I enjoyed it the arguments I've seen from it come from people that are talking about it from a purely adaptation standpoint which sure fine but what about the objective standpoint outside of that I will completely disregard any argument about the comics I just could not care less right I can personally totally understand that because I mean I hate the expanse show for what it does to the books and I refuse to watch it because of that but I'll admit to that it won't let me put a straw pool in the chat what do you what do you what's the straw pool link me and I'll put it in I did a spider-man straw pool I will allow people to see this was homecoming good yes or no vote now what was your main problem with homecoming the MJ replacement like for me she does not come across likeable at all she's this you know I'm going to second you on that one well she's an arrogant like fucking self-possessed art so like I just couldn't get behind her at all and so she didn't I don't like her as a character now that she's going to be the main love interest who's not even in the movie that much though that's the problem they're setting her up we're talking about this movie we're not talking about the next one or anything yeah when she was in homecoming she was being a jerk and so it didn't really make me like her as a character and I mean I'm a I guess it's the thing because you know you don't like comic book arguments but I'm a big fan of the comic books spider-man was like my big number one I appreciate comic book arguments but we're talking about the film separated from yeah and even separated she didn't come across as a likeable character but on top of that the fact that they replaced Mary Jane the true Mary Jane with this I'm like what did you like see in the trailer when Peter's on a date with her like for far from home and he's like oh you look nice tonight and she's like she makes a joke out of it she makes a joke out of it the only value I have is to look good and he's like and then she says I'm kidding yeah no no no no I don't accept that that's a good that's a good joke that's a joke that we would write you know what someone says they're kidding but they're not really yeah see that sounded like she was being serious you can't just fear that you can't just go oh she said she was joking but she's not really she did the exact same thing at the end of homecoming when Peter leaves yeah she's like where are you going what are you doing she's like I'm just kidding go ahead he's like no I'm just joking go on she is though she is low-key stalking him and that's actually already proven in the in the trailer because she knows that his bite a man and so that might have actually been a very genuine where the hell are you going but then she tries to gloss over the facts yes and we could infer the opposite of every action everyone takes I don't know but there's some validity in that assessment based on what's happening I'm surprised that that is the major issue with homecoming when she's barely in it well that's like it had more of an effect on me because I remember I like the comic books and stuff and so it rubs me the wrong man like I said I liked homecoming overall but there were certain little things that irked me and that was one of them I actually this is the benefit of being so detached from the comics when she's in the detention thing and he's like why are you even here because she's not in supposed to be in detention she's drawn a picture of the guy who's organizing detention and like she said she's got like a line under it that says like he's pondering his purpose of his life I thought that was funny I'm not saying that's not funny either no my point is that she's not like I'm not comparing it to the Mary Jane of the Raimi films or even the comics or whatever else she's just this character she's a character but if there was a comparison she'd win and this is the thing if someone wait what look if someone said to me what about comparing it to the comic or whatever I'd be like well that's another conversation I'd have to read the comic and then probably agree with you that she's a terrible adaptation but that's not what we're talking about look okay what's the second problem if there was one okay wait so super chat just came in homecoming is stupid as hell because they want you to buy a blue collar worker can reverse engineer alien tech and not gain unwanted attention from the FBI in a day with powerful weapons over the streets so it took them what we can only infer was years to reverse engineer a flying piece of gear that's all it is it's nothing more special than that and then they also have a rifle that can disintegrate someone which is no more special than the rifles that they had in the start the idea that they're not noticed by the FBI the whole thing is that they only steal from people who are extremely low level and they only sell to extremely low level even Tony says that they below the avengers grade this is all assessed in the film this is part of why I get frustrated that people hate homecoming you're really not taking advantage of all the effort they put into the script to explain all of the things that happen in it one of the things I was impressed with there's there's but then it never deals with this whole idea that like there's this weapon smuggling operation going on like we're using alien tech to Spider-Man literally drops it yeah he does but against Tony Starks like urging against on Tony's you know advice but Tony's recommending that they deal no Tony recommended that the police take care of it but then that's never touched upon like he never just notifies the police and then deals with it yes he does he calls the FBI and they turn up on the ship and that's part of why Spider-Man fucked up does he yes this is part of why people hate this movie for no fucking reason Tony literally says to Peter I did listen I did care he called the FBI fucking peace it's true this is what I mean this is what I mean I just did a great job as Peter Parker I enjoyed him and there was the younger youngest Peter Parker we've seen which was more true to again comic books which I love the youngest youngest Aunt May we've ever seen as well well that was different ok so that actress is not young by most standards she just looks incredible for her age she's young compared to what the fuck what was that who was that coming from who was that was that coming from Wolf's Pizza well people told me to put on elevator music so instead I got ice cream truck music ok chat I apologize for getting angry I just I constantly there's you again thinking about ice cream I constantly hear about how homecoming sucks and I just don't like hearing references that are inaccurate I apologize sorry I did it bad I'm gonna withdraw my statement about the police interference then the FBI were called so that that criticism of the plot is negated but the MJ is largely unlikable it doesn't ruin the movie yeah I'll stand by that one really in it so I like her well this is the thing I'm not even addressing a counter argument I'm just addressing that even if it was valid who the fuck is well that's what I mean I'm not saying it ruined the movie for me it's a good movie that was just one of my pet peeves I can't believe literally the fucking is dropping 40% of people incorrect people hate homecoming also some people recommended we check out the high top reviews video so me and Fringy have actually watched it we hate it and we're gonna address it on EFAP eventually it's terrible high top reviews has a video explaining why homecoming is terrible his arguments are fucking worthless and EFAP is gonna explain why one day look I'm sorry but homecoming is over is underrated yet there I said it homecoming is underrated I said it come at me homecoming is better than the last Jedi I'll give you that one yeah it's better than the last Jedi okay at least we can all agree on that so how's everybody doing I'm doing alright how are you doing no good apparently no it's a shame people don't like the amazing movie that is spider-man homecoming but hey if you guys do end up having a look at people saying why it's bad see if I'm available for the stream because I would like to be on that one as well I mean dude we'd love to have you on there are some cool elements with homecoming that I think work really well I mean I personally liked this is kind of civil war related but that Tony Stark was the one that gave spider-man his suit and stuff so you like that I liked that personally because honestly a teenager in the real world is probably gonna have a bit of difficulty making a fancy spider-man suit that he ends up making I know he makes in the comic books but it just addressed a small little plot hole thing that you know wasn't as realistic with Tony Stark giving it to him there's also a more realistic thing about his relationship like regarding the comic books in Spider-Man the ultimate Marvel had watched two different comic book universes ultimate Marvel was the next one in that imprint Peter Parker ends up having a relationship with Tony Stark and looking up to him a lot and seeing that reflected in the movie I loved as well I thought that was great and so there's a lot of cool little things like that that just gave me yeah cool I liked it but there were things that I didn't like as well so honestly that'll be this'll be a great topic for another refat because I am so tired of hearing about how homecoming is terrible for really bad reasons so we're definitely gonna do that and stop saying who because everybody thinks the homecoming sucks apparently it's gonna come on for the debate though well Geeks and Gamers as both think is terrible and they're both big fans of Spider-Man as far as I understand so there'll be plenty of discussion and we'll bring Shad on as their third versus our third and we'll have a video to respond to it'll be fucking chaos man someone in the chat is asking me who cares about Ultimate Spider-Man look it didn't like there's a point where it goes off the rails that the first launch of Ultimate Spider-Man comic books that was great I loved it I loved the more kind of bringing all the characters into a modern setting and going through all the arcs are fresh I enjoyed it I loved Ultimate Spider-Man but then they killed him off so yeah it goes a bit it's okay to be wrong sometimes we'll see we'll see I've seen a lot of Mahlers defending an objectively bad movie no it's just like Spider-Man your opinion is wrong alright let's just do a simple you don't have to defend it just give a number of what you think in terms of the craftsmanship of the script in Homecoming is we'll go from left to right Wolf what do you think out of 10 I'd have to re-watch it again because I've only seen it that one time with you a few months back but I would say like an 8 rags 8.5 Brinker 6 J 9 Chad I'm gonna repeat something in chat why are we talking about Spider-Man because Spider-Man is coming up how come I can do it I would actually want to watch it again to be a bit more objective when I go into a movie I actually mostly try and turn off my nitpicky side experience and it's afterwards that I try and break it down but often times I don't have a fresh memory of it and so because of that yeah I probably want to wait before I gave it a distinct number oh I'm saying you don't have to be committed to this so if someone said ah you said this out of 10 and you were wrong they'd be wrong to say it because this is not a committal thing yeah maybe 8 out of 10 for me oh wow I was about to say I'm not sure if I would give it 8 or 8.5 I kind of I think they're both valid or something also William Crowe said what's that more is angry because his golden goose is challenged golden goose that's civil war that's my golden goose challenging homecoming is just something that's bothered me over time because I've never seen like a really strong argument against it outside of it's not like the comics we don't like that Mary Jane is not a white red head which to me I understand that from an adaptation point of view but that's it and then the other comment that really fucking bothers me which is Spider-Man his life as Spider-Man never interrupts his life as Peter Parker he never addresses and to me that's just utter bullshit you didn't watch the fucking film so that'll be addressed in a future e-fap I suppose I don't know if you guys would agree with that statement Drink Girl Shad what do you reckon I don't which statements the last one the idea that Spider-Man the life of Spider-Man never interrupts or interrupts or makes him choose between his life as Peter Parker yeah that statement that statement bullshit like in the context of the movie like yeah he's constantly wrestling with that what about the crime scene where he was going to walk up as Spider-Man it's affecting his life heck he tries to take a girl to prom and he runs into the villa how does it not affect his life I would never mark down the script for that reason so no can I just highlight the duality of YouTube back to back these comments Mauler Civil War is an overrated film Mauler thanks for reminding me why I subbed to you yeah well how can you overrate Civil War though Civil War is a fucking good I can't wait to make my video on that it's gonna take 10 years but it'll happen and I like the rags liked it that made me happy because I like rags he's a doggo yay wait Shad what do you think of Civil War oh I love Civil War that's one of my all time favorites dude you can stay I say this tacitly but are all six of us talking about Civil War in this chat cause I know that a lot of people hate Civil War too it's the only time when the Avengers actually have to wrestle with real world consequences for what they do hmm high five are the five people in this conversation I like that we agree though people in chat are gonna be upset there's a lot of people who hate Civil War they're wrong there it is I think I'm probably the only one in this call that doesn't really like Civil War for any objective reason and I don't mean this in some kind of condescending way but I'd love to watch it with you I can't remember if we've done it oh we already did okay then wait for my video hopefully that'll change something I mean my whole thing is that I was never really invested in the vast majority of the characters in that film so I didn't really care about any of it there wasn't any pizza in it I can have pizza while I'm watching the movie I've seen it on it before yeah that's out of it did you like Infinity War because they will apparently deep fry your kebab in Scotland that's definitely the reason yes also I agree with that by the way I've tried Death of the Kid in chat said that a Civil War movie was better than it was in the comics changed my mind so when I came out of Civil War and I was just like fucking hell that was good I went to see it with a friend of mine he was just big into the comics and he said the reason he hated Civil War or at least didn't like it was that it separated from the comics and so we went to McDonald's after it and sat down and I had him explain to me exactly what the storyline in the comics was and I was like that sounds much worse and he was like it doesn't matter if it's worse they didn't do it in the films it was a poor adaptation and I was like okay fine but it sounds much worse basically Iron Man is absolutely the bad guy in the comic vision the idea that they're both principled and they're both correct but they clash at the core because it's a complicated issue my only criticism my only criticism of Civil War is that Tony's motivations aren't that well defined I think compared to Cap's I think like he could have done with more to build him up to where the sort of path that he goes down I disagree there's just not quite enough there I was about to say we can't do this we go from like a homecoming discussion to an eye we got to continue with this guy's video it's taken us 5 hours to not get through this video that's a different idea it's been 5 hours at least I love the idea that we're like guys we're going a bit long even for EFAP we're going a bit long we're going to reach 10 hours soon like the whole reason I started my YouTube channel I love talking about media it's the funnest thing ever we don't have to get we don't have to get too serious I also love talking about media media is a fucking glorious hero yeah so people ask in for like we should do we will give it time EFAP will cover everything it just takes us a while it's the same thing as my channel anyway is everyone ready for me to press play on this video to finally get to the end maybe nope compared to the masterful endings Tony and Steve got how do you feel about interstellar hahahaha don't get me started people in chat would be like bulls rock on interstellar it's a very good film does anyone in this chat love interstellar someone asked if this is a testament to how bad the video is taking us this long I will jump in and say the ending for interstellar is absolute nonsense yeah almost like the rest of the film up until a certain point I was alright with it but the idea that love crosses interstellar boundaries of fuck off no why do you hate love I didn't get that from interstellar I'm from you're derailing this let's bring up interstellar other time because I liked it well done rags you actually managed to do it I'm from Scotland love isn't what we do here we do so anyway let's carry on with this video it'll be great there's so many things to talk about Thanos was just a minor slip up in the middle of his story and pretty soon he'll be back to his full comedic self again now that he's joining the guardians we don't know that this is the thing he could be right he could be right the guardians plays out and Thor is just a fun, loving, happy dude throughout the entire film and in that case I'd be like well fucking hell endgame was just pointless that's what they're gonna do though but they're not going to the hints were there like right at the end of endgame when he was I'm not saying I know what they're gonna do but if they don't what's your reaction gonna be I guess I was wrong if it's not that if they go for something deeper and it's a little bit more I don't know, complex for him I'll be totally fine with that and it's like wow they've subverted my expectation I understand why you're certain of it in the same way that I'm certain episode nine cannot be well written but there's a very tiny chance like I don't actually I'm hyperbolic a lot when I say episode nine won't be well the fact that I know that isn't it Chris Terrio is one of the writers and that just means your film is dead at that point but let me confirm that quickly he's the guy who wrote Batman vs Superman isn't it I'll find out the idea that you got first of all JJ Abrams which you're fucked but to have yeah so he's the guy who wrote Batman vs Superman and Justice League you're fucked you're done Justice League and Batman vs Superman he's writing it alongside JJ Abrams there's no way but if someone said there's no way I'd be like okay fine there's a chance it's like the most enormous dice ever with a billion sides and only one number on that die is gonna result in a good film like I think it's possible for Thor to have an amazing arc in Guardians 3 I'm not exactly gonna say it's a guarantee by any stretch of the imagination but I'd hope for it but James Gunn is writing it and James Gunn Ryan is a good film I like he listed this guy as like a writer for you know Justice League wasn't there like 27 different writers I'm sorry I'm only going by what IBDB told me I could be wrong about the specifics I just mean that that's that's all I know you wrote Argo apparently people liked Argo that's something oh god he's writing Justice League part is it called Justice League part 2 is that happening there was a second part are you kidding me writer Zack Snyder and Chris Terrio oh god oh I can't wait oh Jesse Eisenberg is coming back I can't wait it'll be great who wanted that oh dear really I can't wait to see Justice League headed by Aquaman and Wonder Woman it's gonna be so great I want to I want to see a really fat middle-aged version of Batman I think Ben Affleck can deliver that quite well oh that's just the owl from Watchmen yeah so the idea that is it possible for episode 9 to be well written yes is it likely no is it possible for Thor to have a great character arc as a result of Guardians 3 yes is it likely I'd say no and that's just me being cynical I'm cynical about everything these Marvel has a good track record they've impressed me more often than disappointed me and so like they've taken things that you wouldn't expect to be good and turned them great like Guardians of the Galaxy I don't know they have a sustain in all these things like they can throw this stuff in and it's a surprise hit the irony is like my favorite Iron Man story throughout the MCU is Civil War which is what his like sixth film I think that's his sixth film I'm very drunk point being that you'd be like why would you expect the sixth incarnation or at least progression of his story to be the one that's your favorite that's pretty unlikely so that was a great surprise but what does everyone reckon on this has the MCU impressed you or disappointed you more impressed more than unimpressed yeah impressed definitely more than disappointed I'm not sure what about you Wolf I feel like I know the answer already but go ahead impressed or disappointed more yeah which one of you felt more with the MCU I'd say impressed more I don't really have much to be disappointed by in most cases if that's the case it's just that we all had a low bar I guess that makes some I just didn't even have a bar I didn't have any I had a pretty high bar with some of them like Spider-Man and Captain America because I'm a huge comic book fan and so I had high hopes for a decent amount and the fact that they I was one of the few people who knew Iron Man existed before the movie was made I loved Avengers and I loved the comic books and the fact that they pulled these rabbits out of the hat in my mind that they were so good seeing what has been done before I was really impressed I'll give them their due their ability to craft a story that spans multiple movies to tie it all together to have every movie build a little bit towards this resolution and to give you a little bit more information about what's going on that takes some planning that takes some consistency and I've got to give them props for that because no other franchise that I can think of does something like that nothing else has been so ambitious and before Iron Man was made who would have ever thought that he could have been such a popular like central character to a superhero universe like that he was almost like a B grade superhero or even C grade superhero no one knew who he was and then you hear a movie coming out and now Iron Man is like one of the top superheroes on the rosters now yeah and the logic will blame both the pinoffric dieter that's what I was pretty much going to say Robert Daddy fucking heard that shit yeah, funnily enough I was actually expecting more people to say more disappointed than impressed because I was going to say like I was impressed by Iron Man disappointed by Hulk disappointed by Iron Man 2 disappointed by Thor First Avenger I think is pretty good actually I would actually argue it's one of the more underrated films most people don't talk about First Avenger being any good but I actually think it's relatively strong and then Avengers I think is strong I loved First Captain America but then Iron Man 3 is disappointing I think for me like Winter Soldier is probably my favorite I like Winter Soldier 2 so yeah point being was the this is a bad way to look at it but I was just like there's more bad than good if you were to separate them with a line probably but that doesn't necessarily mean I was impressed or disappointed it's kind of an arbitrary question anyway because it's very feeling based yeah I just expected different results either way you guys ready to press play again? I believe so I think it rags it's like how do I derail is again I'm probably going to round out this video and then probably call it and I think oh so we need a few more hours then yeah Wolf what's your favorite movie soon it'll be back to us full Canadian severe expectations say one of the names and then one word and then go the Fellowship of the Ring Desolation of the Smoke Shut the hell up Desolation of my that is the wrong answer no I'd rather shoot myself than watch that again his arc is complete his story in Last Jedi has a sense of finality to it because the his story is complete it's not even over he's in the next one there's no arguing that his story is complete the argument is that it sucked hey wait can you say that though if his story sucked would it still be complete well it's dead no one's really dead no one's really gone no one's really gone is this their benchmark though it's like oh it has a sense of finality to it because he dies is that all you got I just like the idea that the film was only I'm not saying it's a good sense of finality like if the film only ever showed Luke on the toilet he farts dies and he goes well it's finished it's complete the story is finished he went through an arc much like Luke on the end of the last Jedi he went out like a wet fart now it belongs to Rey lifting her rocks yeah I was gonna say Luke didn't do shit he just stood there he was a projection he didn't try and save Kylo yeah how is it thematically relevant that his failure begins with failing to understand his student mistrusting him and threatening to kill him and then it ends with him goading his student into thinking he's there but he's not what's the thematic relevance there because he's not there to save him is it literally just the fact that it involves those two characters is that how surface level we are with this they met and talked therefore he overcame all the problems he had I think I think with Ryan Johnson he's very much about he's got an idea in mind of the visual of a scene he doesn't really care what the context is to make that happen say that as if it's like a Ryan Johnson thing that's like a 50% of humanity thing they do not care about the mechanics it's all about the the point but those people aren't entrusted to write like a billion dollar script for a massive movie no they think what Ryan did was a masterpiece but he you know he had this idea of like Luke and Kylo facing off in this desolate wasteland with the sun setting behind them and everything like that the showdown at sunset and he didn't care how it had to come about he just made it happen and he wanted a surprise revelation about what the nature of that confrontation was and it was just that Luke's not there and it's all a mirage but then he's dead anyway because I need to get rid of him in this script that's all he wanted why do you want me to be hateful you reminded me of all the stuff that made me hey rags what's your favorite video game and why and he didn't ask now now we can't be derailing this all the time we have to stay focused dragon stung one no metro dragon stung one boring the plan you're in a story that focused on his redemption Thor was a side character thrown into endgame to make fat jokes and kinda redeemed later on but with no real dramatic weight how can you say kinda redeemed while simultaneously arguing that he was never redeemed in this video what does that mean and those fat jokes were hilarious this is the video essay this is gonna tie into this whole idea of like well you don't like the last Jedi because you don't understand it because you're not smart enough to take it all in you ever thought that maybe that's the truth well it's kind of like if I go and order a burger and someone gives me a shit on a bun and I complain about it and they're like well it's because you don't understand the turd it's supposed to represent your failure to understand the the damage that you're doing to your body by eating the burger pretty much but this is it you can come up with any kind of argument like that like well if you don't like something it's because you don't understand it it's like well have you ever considered the prospect that it's actually not that smart at all in fact it's the opposite of smart it's the ying to smart it's yang it's a dumb as fuck it's an enemy to smart it's a dumb as fuck screenplay by a dumb as fuck writer to try and satisfy like a bunch of like idiotic requirements and that's all it is thrown in the endgame to make fat jokes and kind of redeem later on but with no real dramatic weight attached to his journey it feels juvenile while Luke's story feels mature and poetic it's like poetry and rhymes yeah I don't what can you say my immortal is poetic in the same sense that free versus poetic when it's just bullshit if I'm trying to give the guy as much benefit as I can look Thor's story arc is lighter because it has humor in it that doesn't make it worse though because the humor was fun it was good and it didn't necessarily rob what he was going through either because he was kind of using his carefree attitude as a way to mask what he's really dealing with I don't necessarily agree about that with every one of the jokes the one that seriously bothers me is the cheese was one when he's trying to explain that he needs to be the one that brings everyone back and fucking war machine just makes that joke yeah like that was not a good place to put that joke the one where he says I think he's dead I didn't mind that one that was fun and you know he looks like melted ice cream I chuckled at that the bit that pissed me off is when he has to speak to Jane and he has a panic attack because he can't face up to it like does that really seem like the kind of thing that Thor would do after everything he's been through alright well what about looking at it this way right Thor has always been kind of vain he's the strongest Avenger he wants to be epic and all these things and he's now gone into the past where he looks like melted ice cream he like I think there's some validity saying that he might be overly self conscious appearing to his mum and Jane in the state that is in he knows is a mess what because he's fat as shit yeah like Jane has this idea and the real Thor is there of him being this absolute hero you know god like figure and now he's looking like the big Lebowski I don't know man seems like a reach could be a reach but is it a potentially valid way of looking at it that he would have negative body image and that would be his thing that like brings him well not only that he like there's a lot of implications about it if he's supposed to be this epic powerful hero and has let himself get into that state what does that say about his character and where he's at so it's more than just having a negative body image but the problem we have later is like we see that that his physical appearance doesn't really have any impact on is like what you can do like he can still you know have his hammer and his axe in both hands and he can still like conjure lightning and he can still take on Thanos on equal terms like he's not been diminished by the fact that he's fat so it doesn't it kind of doesn't really amount to anything it's just a cosmetic thing really and it make that just reinforces my opinion that it's there for laughs it's like let's laugh at Thor cause he's fat now where do you take that sorry I got a crying pig in the background I got a view but I'm listening though anyway that's my rant when it comes to fat Thor I was just interested to hear both of you change ideas I've got nothing to add I don't know no J interrupt with some awkward comment I'm gonna I'm gonna interrupt with the idea that it's actually starting to get light here where I am I can see at my window I mean yeah well definitely was it light when we started yeah what a poetic arc no matter what the context is why everyone just decided to stop talking this is this video I feel so bad if the person who uploaded this ever watches this he'd be like you barely talk about a video to his journey it feels sorry your video was so short story feels mature and poetic Thor is also not the focus when he could have gotten equal focus to Tony and Steve I know that's not the case since we'll see more of him but again dealing with the repercussions of Thanos is kind of a major thing for his character but that might be to come another thing it's not can't say it's not you can only say it might not this is that I completely understand your apprehension with the concepts because I think that I would be on your team if this was in another scenario if I was a bit more cynical about it but I actually do think they have plans for Thor and that this was Iron Man and Cap's movie cause there's only so many characters that they can give time to cause there are heaps in there and so it does make sense if Captain America and Iron Man are moving on you really need to wrap it up in this movie right now but Thor is sticking around you do have time to keep going with it but then what can you do because he's now but he's now achieved his aim like he's put right the thing that he failed on Thanos is now dead everyone who died has been restored and everything is fine now pretty much well maybe Thanos was just the character that instigates the problem the problem is something he still needs to address which is that he couldn't save the world and he's just tried to ignore it by the fact that he tried to work with them to defeat the post hoc problem which is the new Thanos trying to kill everybody again still dealt with that this is what I mean like so this is why I like that episode 9 is finally coming out so that we can finally be definitive about a lot of things so the idea that you try and criticize TFA the Snoke's backstory not existing people will be like yeah but that's the point of TLJ is that it's gonna bring in Snoke's backstory and it's like no he's dead there is no backstory like no they're gonna bring his backstory in episode 9 it's like fucking hell guys really but then they still could they absolutely could they won't but they absolutely could so the fact that episode 9 is coming out is a relief the answers in concrete what these characters are who they are what they mean the thing is we know for a fact that Chris Hemsworth is willing to go on while Cap and Iron Man wanted to go out and they did go out we'll have to see but I probably will agree with you I probably will agree with you because like I said I think it's much more likely that they'll fuck Thor's character up rather than fix which is what they can do going forward from Endgame just like when going forward from TFA yeah and to try to try and equate this with episode 9 I don't think we're gonna find out anything about who anyone is it's not gonna be consistent with anything we've seen so far there's clearly no plan there there's no overarching story to this it's just think about this what can we do even if JJ had a plan which nobody would believe but let's just say he did Ryan Johnson threw it away and went his own direction so imagine having a plan for three films someone else did film 2 and it's the complete opposite of what you intended imagine trying to write film 3 as the guy who had the plan from film 1 yep you're fucked yeah I'm just like con just get rid of the last Jedi pretend it doesn't exist but then who do you blame for all this Disney you have to choice this point pin it down to someone specific like someone oversaw this and someone approved it you know we had JJ starting it off with the Force Awakens and then just basically handing over the reins to Ryan Johnson do whatever the fuck you want with it don't mind and then he did and what he did was awful but then is that Ryan Johnson's fault is it like Kathleen Kennedy's fault for approving it a lot of people blame Kathleen Kennedy is it JD Abrams fault for saying like yeah you can do whatever you want I don't mind this is my outline but you can use it or not I don't know that he necessarily had a choice in that anyway and let's remember that if you were like why didn't he complain about where the direction of episode 8 went it's like I don't think he can contractually do that probably some clause that's like you will not disparage where this blah blah blah goes not that I think that he would I'm sure that he would just be onboarded anyway was it half a billion dollars or something what for bad robot something like that yeah to work with Warner Brothers I think it was and it's just like when you read that you're like whoa he just got 500 million dollars he could totally be at the point where he's selling his soul but you just think like for something with so much money behind it and so much at stake the idea that you can just run roughshod over whatever plans that were before it's just mind boggling it's to subvert expectations you can't just have anybody out there subverting expectations I mean doing the obvious the thing that the fans want that would actually make a good movie that's just ridiculous so anyway okay since we'll see more of him but again dealing with the repercussions of Thanos was kind of a major thing for his character but I guess it really wasn't in the grand scheme of things now look I really hate Last Jedi I'd probably rather rewatch Attack of the Clone since it's at least way funnier and meme filled what would he do jump out of a moving vehicle excuse me but Last Jedi is not the worst movie ever made and I have to give credit where I see it Luke's emotional journey I'm afraid you've given credit where it didn't deserve it it's not the worst movie ever made what high praise I mean I've probably said it to be honest it's not the worst movie ever made people would praise in the room but the room is so bad it's good yeah Trad said it's being bad hey you can't use the word bad in conjunction with the room there's only good there's only masterpiece it's a masterpiece so could The Last Jedi be one of the worst movies ever made it's one of the worst yes I would say I think you Terminator Genesis is worse yeah I can't think of movies I'd consider worse well yeah most people go to B movies that are really poorly made in every single direction possible including writing as opposed to Hollywood movies that are typically only badly done in terms of writing because they're mostly okay because they're hiring well known actors they hire CGI artists that are good at their jobs they hire people to do cinematography for them like all these things are usually just they come with the price but apparently you can't buy good writing like you can't buy a surely good writer and I think that's also tied to the fact we have time limits well yeah time limits can affect this is the thing man it's like a lot of us feel that we could write a good TLJ but what if someone said do it an hour we'd be like fuck and you might be like we still do better than Ryan Johnson probably I agree with that you know what I mean though a lot of writers will suffer dramatically when they're forced to write something quickly um because that's not the way you're supposed to do writing but it's not taken as seriously as it should be in Hollywood as far as I can tell it's a shame I like the writing part of movies it's kind of what I base my channel after it's kind of one of the fundamental things that makes a good movie in my mind unless it's like some fast and furious just fun bull crap when I get to see cars explode they're still telling a story the Hobbs and Shaw trailer that looks great I actually when I saw the trailer with a friend of mine we were watching I think it was Captain Marvel I was like you know that looks like a lot of fun to just watch when you literally are paying attention when me and my friend went to go see Dark Phoenix the trailer came on and when the rock was holding on to a trying to like keep them together over a cliff we could not possibly take it seriously that was hilarious well the thing is the previous Fast and the Furious didn't they have a race against a submarine in the Antarctic wasn't that a thing I stopped paying attention to the Fast and the Furious franchise it's like the dumbest set of movies ever created that's the only time where I've seen someone grab a torpedo when it jumps above the ice and just like redirect it towards something they want you to blow up like yeah it's beautiful that's where you're wrong that's completely realistic and well written when you're the rock you can do things like that anyway not the worst movie ever made and I have to give credit where I see it Luke's emotional journey was really compelling Thors could have been but it fell short the fuck can't you just say Luke's story could have been compelling but it fell short how can't anyone just say that and it really seems like his like as you said before Luke's one felt serious and Thors one felt like a joke but like the humor in Thors journey doesn't undermine the stuff he's going through and like if you were to say which one felt more serious well I would say it would be the last Jedi one but the writing was awful the motivations were terrible he was contradicting his character and it was a mess I mean it seems like he would actually admit to judging it ignoring the fact that it's bad at the premise the Luke one like I'm not even trying to criticize him here I think that that's the premise for this analysis felt more legitimate because it was serious and that seems like what he's basing his judgment on really compelling Thors could have been but it fell short sometimes it's important to let go of our hate and recognize when a bad movie does something better than a good movie I don't think that's what you did here just because a movie has a serious like tone doesn't actually make its content serious yeah I agree with that a lot of people upon first viewing of the last Jedi said that the comedy was so misplaced so many of the jokes in the last Jedi felt awkward like ooh making a joke okay I thought we were being serious but okay the idea that like it's a mutually understood thing that this is a mature film it's like no but it fell short sometimes it's important to let go of our hate and recognize when a bad movie does something better than a good movie there you go I brought balance to the force by talking positively about the last Jedi for a change perfectly balanced now that I've said both good and bad things about it I'm sure the comment section will be perfectly content maybe I don't know I'm assuming that the video is relatively well received compared to the the doom video for example at least I tried I never got to finish the doom video how'd that go the guy came on the guy came on he did yep how'd that go about as well as he expected he didn't do any of this well except you he was a friend Leo he don't even recognize who crime work gaming is no he came on and he was like what are you guys doing with your new fangled computers you should go back well I was about to say I could look at it but it's currently fucking held up by Warner Brothers you'll have to wait for that he seemed familiar with you and he made it sound like you two had some alteration at some point did he I thought he just made it sound like he knew who Rags was that's all I don't know there's something in this tone of voice that made me is there something that happened between these two at some point they fucked I wasn't thinking that but I mean that's easily something that could have happened well either way we defeated that video it only took us 11 hours yeah I'm right so and with that fellas I'm gonna need to get let's get let's get let's get plugs done alright in case people are leaving alright so Shad talk about your channel you wonderful man swords castles how it integrates with pop culture and fantasy and all that fun good stuff and I'm gonna show my book because it's coming out tomorrow I wrote a book as good go buy it that's it come on man you gotta you gotta tell him it's the only book that's worth buying in the universe it's about it's about pages the former tyrannical emperor of a fantasy world when he sets out on a road towards redemption for who better to fight back the darkness in the world than the one responsible for most of it there you go there's a bitch man yeah why are we talking about that one spider-man's coming out how do you know that meme how did this spread this little bit repeated in the channel I might know far more than people might realize I'm impressed Shad is an e-fap scholar oh yeah everyone should subscribe to Shad diversity to learn about why swords are bad in media that's what you do right and when the swords are good but also I'm talking about fantasy tropes but I also did random things on sci-fi I did a review of the last Jedi and how I hated it and so there's a random movie review on occasion the main say is like what movie in the mainstream would you say is one of the best representations of how medieval tech slash vehicles slash accurate armor clothing weapons and stuff yeah just accuracy I guess outlaw king the recent one on Netflix was surprisingly well done it impressed me on so many levels there was some inaccuracies I did video reviews but the weapons and armor were mostly full on legit very like I was amazed yeah so outlaw king there you go the robert the bruce one yep that's the one yeah they filmed that like half a mile from nice nice alright my kids are getting ready I gotta go fellas thanks have a good day sir we'll have you back at some point for sure bye bye I'm assuming critical drinker would you like to escape now yeah cuz I'm gonna have to get up in like three hours to go well then tell people about your amazing channel and why they should subscribe you shouldn't I'm an asshole don't subscribe to me don't say that don't say that oh yeah like yeah I'm really good do fascinating work I'm probably gonna talk about Cobra Kai next because I fucking love that show and I've been meaning to talk about it for ages and it's very rare that I actually cover something positive that I enjoy so that's my next thing the drinker recommends you watch Cobra Kai I haven't actually seen it I don't know if anyone else here has but I've only heard good things it is very good also it made me laugh on multiple occasions you stayed for like how long has this been what was the first half was an hours how long I don't know it's all gone into a big blur for me started seven ish yeah when nearly as four means when you get eight hours yeah I said to you like when we started this like don't worry I'll be around till about midnight at least and yeah four hours of that is a little bit yeah like when there's things that I want to run about and there's things that piss me off well I just gotta keep going I suppose nine hours is what we're nearly at nine hours not bad that is a fucking long eFap wow not the longest still though it's the longest 11 hour eFap we might be that today cause it usually takes people all the two hours to get through the chest episode 50 is gonna be the 24 if there is other stuff that you want to cover yeah do let me know absolutely happy back so it was fantastic and I hope you have a good sleep for three hours thank you it's been emotional good night slash morning see you later guys is anyone else leaving or are the four of us staying I have to be up pretty early tomorrow so I think I'm gonna have to call it a night here very well I was gonna say plug but I mean you're like the guy who's always around and stuff so yeah don't subscribe to me don't watch my terrible videos or my terrible I never do anything good he even cuts out when he's trying to tell you not what to do so yeah so don't watch anything or do anything related to me because I'm terrible and I bring down eFap and I'm the worst one here hey everybody yeah I am oh wait what if they're let me just make sure there's no new Beowyn drawing for you a lot of people saying the thing got copyrighted no no no no no and you're good okay okay we'll see the Beowyn thing next time mm-hmm alright I'll see you guys and that leaves gay, ragas and mules to attack the chat are you just gonna do the super chat at this point? yes there's a lot this is over 8 hours I guess a lot of several $1 ones that have questions so we'll my favorite is the first one it's from a user called Shrek2 and there's no message hmm Shrek2 it's like what is, rags you're back rags yay I don't know if you can tell this eFap has killed me I don't know if I'm acting different or not in fairness I think there may be comments about how there was either interruptions or people not speaking much but there were 6 6 people very hard to make that balanced you know especially when you have like a person saying 2 plus 2 is 5 and you have 6 people rearing to respond to that you just get all at the same time and you just finished it to the point of it being at least entertaining yeah alright next one James Moore rags another profile picture how many do you have 10 trillion 10 trillion there's the answer by the way howdy everyone hello we did it guys eFap 40 all hail the toxic brood all hail dawn and then here's another donation from the profile Shrek2 with nothing to say Shrek2 Shrek2 Shrek2 good to see you boys back the dawn is pleased yes hashtag Miranda Cosgrove for Captain Marvel you don't know who Miranda Cosgrove is okay is she an actress time to be what has she been in she's been in Despicable Me too iKali's tv show I guess school of rock oh was she the girl school of presentations alright I mean I don't I don't mind I think anybody might be an improvement over over cheese what was it cheese theft that was it cheese theft I'll do it I'll play Captain Marvel fuck it from Creamy Sheaf from Creamy Sheaf you guys seen Cinema Sin's Captain Marvel vid I think the only person who might have is Sin okay so what do you think Jack it was really really bad like Cinema Sin's no Cinema Win's wait sorry there's one point where he talks about how it's really great that two women have a conversation in the MCU so clarification Creamy Sheaf's question was apparently about Cinema Sin's not Win's has anyone seen Sin's Cinema Sin's video that was one I was talking about okay I thought you were talking about wait so Cinema Sin's said that it's great that two women have a conversation two women have a conversation and they're not they're not bad characters which they are but one of them is but I thought the whole thing was about him criticising the film he says that's a good thing yeah but sometimes he takes Sin's off and it's like oh it's like you know it's about time two women had a conversation in the MCU and tried to think of times that you are strong is it supposed to be like a joke or is it for realsies like it's about time two strong female characters had a conversation in the MCU and I tried desperately to think of another time that two strong female characters had a conversation to you but couldn't so never mind I guess it comes down to what you consider to be a strong female character what other woman conversations are there in the MCU I guess I'd have to go film by film and then recant myself with them like for example this one I immediately think of is when the girl who's trying to prove that Tony Stark's a bad person who ends up sleeping with him talks to Peppermint Potts that's probably the earliest two girls talking to each other scene in Iron Man I think yes and I don't know if you'd call either of them strong female characters that's fine with me but one of them is hell bent on proving that Iron Man is a phony and the other one works for him who turns out to be a hero himself I don't know I think there's an argument to be yes when Chats highlighted Gamora and Nebula have spoken to each other that's the thing oh yeah oh yeah there we go I don't know interesting conversation I suppose but yeah what about cinema wins this video have you seen that no it's only part one that's the part that blows me away oh hey Solar Sans is in the chat I've watched your videos who dat? Solar Sans Solar Sans like S-A-N-S or S-A-N-D-S S-A-N-D-S Sands some words you have to say in American for them to understand J you just have to pronunciate better pronunciate even your English, language and Glando that's what you're supposed to say what does Solar Sans do J the videos of his live scene are the ones where he like if I'm thinking of the right channel you love his videos but you can't remember who he is I've said I've seen the videos if I was Solar Sans you seemed really excited if I was Solar Sans I would be extremely offended and I would announce J if I was Solar Sans kick J I would announce that J needs to be good job J good job EFAP gaming Left 4 Dead when also you're awesome that is honestly the placeholder for the next EFAP gaming it's just that we don't necessarily plan these things out it'll happen but we like playing Left 4 Dead so that'll probably happen for sure maybe definitely hello gentlemen hello chip chip ble how would you do hello went to Galaxy's Edge at best a C as part of DL also wonder how Quinton feels for saying milkshakes are okay now what has happened to Andy Neal do you know how to pronounce that properly N go on you yeah okay so for anyone who doesn't know they have apparently upgraded their milkshakes to involve quick drying cement which is scary very scary because that shit getting in your eyes can cause you major issues so the idea that people are like lol milkshakes are okay is now controversial it's almost like the thing that was obviously going to happen that we said was going to happen happened very quickly yeah and this is the thing you might be like oh you're taking a political side with this I'm against violence as a whole how about you just don't assault people and you might be like how the fuck is throwing a milkshake at someone violence it's like I don't know you're hitting them with an object yeah like I think that's fair to I think most people would agree with that don't throw milkshakes at people also don't throw acid at people quick drying cement at people I think that we can all agree on that at this point right don't throw at people don't throw things at people you don't like unless it's like confetti or it prevents them from fucking killing somebody at that point maybe do it let's be reasonable yeah not a good sign also as for galaxy's edge well now hold on well now Jay you say that but you're a privileged white male who doesn't have to deal with the oppression that interstellar galactic gods have to deal with but I said it is okay damn wow and as for galaxy's edge I don't know anything about it outside of it being an attraction to do with star walls that didn't perform as well as they wanted question mark that's really meh I've heard the drinks machines I've heard the drinks machines they have have got all the names of the names of what the names of the different drinks written in arabish what oh if you type in galaxy's edge the first story that pops up is why is galaxy's edge so empty a few reasons it's bad happy fourth of dawn everybody I don't know happy fourth of dawn what is it the fourth e-fap after dawn was incepted that could be it that's probably it thank you molla please say ze warudo ze warudo that means but thanks love you yes thank you hey molla I went back and played soma a few more times the last few weeks thanks for doing the series on soma and amnesia regarding horror content have you watched the film lake mundo and cube I've seen cube I haven't seen lake mundo I quite like the idea of cube I watched cube 2 it was a little bit disappointing but um yeah I don't know I'm always interested in the idea that people have been kidnapped and they wake up in a mysterious circumstance that is almost supernatural and they have to work together to defeat it and they end up getting killed one by one who doesn't love that premise see nobody denied it so everyone loves it that's how I um oh shit the drinker is here yo critical drinker one vodka bottle in two more to go just for you back to drinking this is it he would have appreciated that had he been able to stay for the alright I'll listen to this throughout the week yeah people have been saying they really want an e-fap I was like well let's be good for anybody who needs we're up to nine hours I think right now is it six and a half plus two so it's eight and a half we're gonna beat the 11 hour record we might it depends on how many of these super chats are like questions and stuff for example can't wait for more Nazi vampires rags we might be doing an episode tomorrow because Sargon isn't going to be able to be here Wednesday maybe the fuck is Nazi vampires you haven't told me about this oh yeah I'm we're doing a campaign on Arch Warhammer's channel like a vampire the mass grave where we're we're Nazi vampires don't you know that's racist yes but we're soldiering on anyway well if you'll do it because it's our coverage I think that was in reference to covering the doom video maybe talking about Harris promoting terrorism against they wanted us to talk about Harris promoting terrorism against Neo I always feel like I'm pronouncing that wrong so as far as I know H-Bomber Guy put out a tweet saying like stop complaining that they throw milkshakes at you like sort of thing and then once he found out that they'd beaten the shit out of him he did eventually say that that's a bad and you couldn't do that it was in Sitch's video like H-Bomber Guy was an asshole for not recognizing the potential flaws but he did end up saying like yeah okay this is bad this shouldn't happen what has happened so I don't want to say that he has no fucking humanity at all because he does acknowledge that you got a tiny shred eventually after people start getting you know since an ER it'll come out in a tiny way why can't we just revert all the way back to don't assault people why can't we just stick there no matter what your politics are no because we have to bash the Fash and if the Fash happens to be gay Asians then well damn it throw bricks at him did you guys know that Don now plays guitar for Judas Priest he changed his name to Andy Sneep so the villainous Captain Marvel can't find him don't tell us she might know yeah I was gonna say what the fuck you're revealing it rags play an amazing game called Fallout 76 Royal it's gonna be a maybe for me dog everyone's gonna want you to cover it after you rags it's gonna be amazing when does it start is it already out I actually don't have no idea maybe somebody in chat does I'll keep an eye on it would you be willing to add Ben down from play the game and hit records to your ever growing list of potential guests I have no idea who that is or what those programs are so all I'll say is that we're open to any guest pretty much so maybe would you be interested in hearing you discuss oh would be interested in hearing you discuss Will building and storytelling with him again sure we're really not against any potential guest the sad fact of evap is this usually once per week and we have a bazillion guest we want to get on and so eventually and people to get on again for example we've had we need to get pipeman and cynic snacks on for their repeat viewings you know because we've had CJ twice got to get the two other members of the Great British podcast on again otherwise this is just an evil we're bad people if we don't that'll be sorted out of it gonna have Goliath on soon oh absolutely he's very desperate apparently we've misrepresented him that's what he made a video about it he was very upset I don't know what that he's gonna actually he's gonna have to take that up with cynic snacks because he's the one who was yeah yeah so evap is live oh cool I'm awake for this each do me to him it looks terrible grabs BFG right where is he I mean honestly and this is this is me being very as much as generous I can be the guy seemed to say that he would have he wanted to revise his video and a lot of his points wouldn't necessarily as expanded as he wanted them to be he said he enjoyed what he heard of evap so that's good he really liked Bayowins art as well again I love the idea that we're adding people to our list of potential enemies turned friendlies we're adding we adding members to the toxic brood yes it expands this better be long I need something to listen to at work tomorrow see that's the sad thing it is long but you won't be able to listen to it as long as it's blocked it's gonna be blocked for at least a month yeah it's bad according to the YouTube algorithm a it's gonna be really depressing if this thing doesn't get unblocked and I can't download it because that means that I'm gonna we're gonna be doing the next evap before I can even get this one out which if it's blocked you you can still play it for yourself you can record your screen and play it we'll we'll figure something out guys don't panic don't panic everybody how does Duke look terrible I'm legitimately curious it looks like game of the year material like its previous game well you you found out it was a very satisfying answer was it not chugging a beer in honor of the critical drinker and clicking on this stream within the first five minutes of uploading well he drank a lot and so did I it was wonderful I only had one year I I brought it back with me I brought a beer back with me to drink for evap because I don't I don't have any here with me at the house right now you should always have a backup spirit in your house Rex I do it's in the freezer but I don't want to climb up there freezer yeah up what hang on you keep your spirits in the freezer and your your freezer is up somewhere yeah the freezer is up the top part of the I will admit really tall yeah what I've found watching a lot of American meteors the freezes are typically above the fridge rather than below what the fuck I know yeah yeah we don't do that that way we we don't live like savages the free we don't have to the fridge and it's below the fridge ours is about half the size of the fridge too and it's above we don't I think I I don't think we access our freezer as much as the fridge so we want our he goes see the reason the oh okay so here's the thing about that you know there's a there's a separator between the freezer and the fridge right so it doesn't matter if he goes up especially if the whole I would argue side is the same temperature basically so when you put the freezer below the fridge it pushes the fridge to be at standing level with you and that's why it's useful because you typically access the fridge far more than the freezer so you'd kneel for the freezer while you would stand for the fridge but if you do it the American stand for the fridge here yeah well you might not depending on the sizes I guess if you're really tall I am six foot five sir also okay so rags you keep your spirits in your freezer why they don't freeze what I have in there right now is wild turkey that's not a real drink that's an animal yeah wild turkey wild turkey I haven't had a turkey in my freezer for a long time oh my god wild turkey is an actual drink what the fuck is wrong with you people yeah it's really good it's a wild turkey American honey is what I really like it's really smooth do you like cook a turkey to the degrees that it turns into a liquid is that how that works what yeah that's why it's brown you once you squeeze when you squeeze down a turkey turn it into just sure that's not just its pee no no no no that ain't no turkey pee you squeeze the turkey down into a liquid and then you add alcohol to it and then just just squirt it into a bottle and then you freeze it and then you enjoy it at holidays and special occasions I'd love to try it if ever I get to visit your eggs it's actually really good I really like it because it's very smooth and I don't like strong spirits I enjoy it because it doesn't freeze it's in the freezer it doesn't freeze Mark Alcatraz said Mueller is so stupid that feel when you take me seriously when I ask if it's made from a real ant yes he really thought that what we do here in America is we go out to the woods and catch wild animals is people telling me I'm wrong about how it's constructed fucking hell check come on catch up you can't kill just men Brie and then Brie responds is that a personal attack or something I think that's in response to a theoretical filming of that deleted scene where she actually basically confirms that we should kill the dawn I think that would be reasonable and they're like Brie Brie Brie Brie Brie we can't kill him cheese cheese cheese cheese cheese can't wait for Abrams to recreate the dark night when I saw it in theaters it was all practical and real and you knew it and that's what Batman is real does Abrams have any connection to Batman right now I don't Batman isn't real yes he is he's in Gotham Wolf is Batman I like to talk about it oh you should probably shouldn't have said that publicly you know what's nice by the way despite the fact that the first part of this EFAB has been obliterated the second part won't be because there's barely anything to be claimed by anybody so you have this didn't you say there were more memes to look at oh we looked at them there's only there's one more meme video that we can check out but I might save it now because wolf's not here and I like wolf some give me a second wolf and rags to be here for me I'm here but wolf isn't and I save memes for both of you one out of two is pretty fucking good as the manager I say it's okay you can't no I gotta be like just show everybody comes back no okay we wait for wolf I don't even remember how that meme started I don't either how you became manager but you did there's several memes where you're the manager so you have to own it take my money thanks for hours of entertainment no problem Tom hooray binged watch Joseph Anderson just to feel pissed off my god he's AIDS tier molla please for him again we can't really cover Joseph unless he does like a concept video if he's doing a review of a game it has to be the me wolf and rags are aware enough of the game to be able to prove him wrong he has to actually be wrong about the game but if he does something in concept like let me tell you why the horror genre sucks we can absolutely rip it apart but it's gonna be a lot that had never happened before I don't think when he actually made that video so I'll have to wait until he does that again or is a game that we've all played which is again relatively unlikely I think he's an interesting fellow I might end up doing his subnautica video but I'm gonna watch it and then maybe do it do it bing update finally watched the lord of the rings again after 8 years and I bored like a F-A-G he has to separate it out because you know at the end of the return of the king good to know I still have feelings also no country for old men is fantastic k-bye jay hasn't seen that no wait I have I have I've just remembered I have you have seen that I have actually how long time ago though did you think jay tell the audience I barely remember it it did not affect me very much I like that it's like no guys jay did see it you're like oh great what did you think I don't remember it oh well no country for old men is awesome if you can prove a film show or game is objectively bad are you entitled to a refund well the entitlement to a refund changes based on what country you're in because there are right that's like the only thing that entitles you to a refund I don't know if you're talking about morally or legally because again morally would just be basically down to every person's definition of what should entitle you to a refund but um typically and rags you can answer this in America isn't it like are you entitled to a refund essentially if you think that you've been treated awfully and argue it relatively soundly I know that's pretty much how it works in Britain so let's say you're in a restaurant and you get given a perfectly fine meal by any standard but you gag on it and throw it up and then you go this was disgusting I demand a refund is it likely you'd get a refund for it um generally in restaurants since that's a fairly uncommon thing for most normal people to do you probably will because they want you to come back essentially so and yeah but I don't think you're owed one I don't think legally yeah no that's the thing morally and legally you might not be but so my experience in the toy store worked in for a while they told us and this is this is the big shame of retail they told us that once the customer makes enough noise shut them up by giving them a refund and that's really bad as a precedent because it just encourages people to be fucking out oh fucking hell they can do whatever they want I don't work in retail anymore but please for the god remember that there are people that work behind those registers people okay they could be you the ones I actually recommend everyone working a tough retail job before doing anything in life just so you can be humbled by the fact that it's fucking horrible to work in a really rough retail job yeah retail can be rough service industries can they have their moments I used to I wanted retail for three hours does that count I used to so when I used to run the twitch stream before I did any youtube reviews and there used to be a meme on my stream that whenever I ran it it's because it used to be between one and four hours for every other day and so my fans would be like have you any more work stories I used to have loads of work stories I have a favorite but I feel like I should probably not tell because we've got loads of super chats right now but I mean we're pretty long on eFap right so it wouldn't matter oh man bad I'm curious now so you guys know what are they called fuck wrap it up already get to the point the Funko Pop dolls right yes I do so we had a I was in charge of the software department and for some fucking reason they gave us the Funko Pops because I guess they connected to media and software is typically a lot of media but we had to take charge of them we had this huge stand of them and we also had a security guard because every store should have a security guard up we actually got him installed because someone tried to run away with a ps4 and our manager had to tackle them it was the most fucking hilarious thing you've ever seen we got a security guard and so these these this couple came up to to my till because I was in charge of software I had only been working there for three months and I was put in charge you're in charge of like the software department yeah which is the most like it was ridiculous it was a really really really bad situation I try to be vague about it because I don't want to put anyone in trouble but it was terrible I shouldn't have been in charge but I was the best person to be put in charge because of how bad the turnover was there so I was just doing my dailies and then I saw these this couple come up to the stand with all the Funko Pops and they just start taking them all out onto the floor and like the entire stand and I was just looking at them like that's odd behavior I'm talking like a hundred of Funko Pops they're just putting them all on the floor and the security guard looks at them and he looks at me and he looks back at them and he's just like like mouths what the fuck are they doing and I just shrugged my shoulders like I don't know and they're just staring at them and looking back looking through them all and he walks up to them and he's like what are you doing? and like I'm in range so I can hear the conversation and they're like oh we're just looking through them because we're just looking for the ones we want and he was like okay people walk through here so if you wouldn't mind like doing this in a more efficient manner if you have to do this this way whatever you know it's sort of thing it's a guy and a girl women's like distressed about this I remember finding it odd but I just go back to my work whatever and then fast forward about 20 minutes and my manager comes up to me and she was like I need to speak to you about our security guard and I was like okay and the couple and my manager come up to me and they're like so these people feel very distressed were they harassed by the security guard and I was like you were there you heard what he said I was like you guys were looking at the Funko pops right and they're like yeah do you remember what he said he said that he wanted to know what you were doing right and they were like no I was like sorry what did he say he was like are you trying to rob the store are you trying to sneakily put these into your clothing and he was like oh I need to check what you're doing I was like oh I don't remember him saying that and then like they started talking more and then I the manager talked to me separately and she was like I think these people are crazy like what actually happened and I was like he literally just asked what they were doing and that was it and she was like yeah that's what the security guard told me and then they came over as we were talking they were like I demand he be fired I demand he be fired and we were both like wide-eyed like I don't think that's how it works I don't think you can just fire somebody the customer does not have the power to hire and fire actually and ironically she was like we will never shop here again unless he's fired and my manager was like okay that seems like a win-win right and they left outraged and the security guard was like hey man thanks for backing me up and I was like what do you mean I just told my manager was like yeah if ever this shit happens just fucking hell these people need a reality check like some customers are actually insane and they just do not listen to what people are actually saying and they just imagine slight so they can get free shit or they can demand people get fired it's the most insane and this is one of like a thousand stories retail is hell when you live in like the you're working some of the worst jobs and I had like it was a nightmare and like I remember just being like what the fuck I knew and she was like if you had told me that he had abused them he may have lost his job but I was just like how arbitrary your life can be when you're in retail that a fucking annoying customer can cost you everything just because they didn't listen to what you were actually saying yeah generally when it comes to stuff like that jobs will put people on like a warning system or they have like verbal warnings and written warnings and then temporary suspensions I before I did the internet stuff I worked in a hotel and while I was in that hotel I did valet I did concierge I did bellhop essentially I worked in the restaurant I worked in the banquets department we did all kinds of stuff we did so I know all about how crazy people when you work all around the hotel and you see people coming in and out and in and out and out every single day hundreds of people every day and everyone's got most people you never remember because they're just in and out they just want to get along with their lives every once in a while you see enough people that if 0.5% of people are fucking psychos you're gonna eventually run into a bunch of psychos it was eye-opening and this is why I recommend everyone have that experience because I said so many stories this was quicker but we had a special when Pokemon X and Y released we give them out a card that has a code on it and it'll give you a free Pokemon when you put it into your whatever fucking console you have and we ran out because the idea was you give it one card with every purchase of the game and eventually we ran out as then he still does and a guy walked up to me he looked like he was in his 60s but he had the outfit of someone he was like fucking 10 years old he had like shorts and a nice little shit and he was holding his games and he was like the sign said that you get a free Pokemon code I'd like to have that I was like yeah sorry no we were out the promotion doesn't been refilled on our side so I can't give you that and he was like okay I can wait and he just stood there and I was like no no I mean like deliveries like this could be a week it could be more like I don't know because obviously I just work here I don't know what the actual deliveries are yeah we used to have you know we had a whole stack but we'd given them out with every game purchase and we ran out and he was like well that's unacceptable and you just awkwardly stand there and he's like I'd like to speak to a manager and I'm like the manager will tell you the exact same thing and he's like I'd like to speak to a manager and there's you hear about these stories as like almost jokes in movies and stuff but these things happen people are insane and the manager comes down and tells you the exact same fucking thing because they don't know anything about it so they ask me about it and I tell them what I told them and they tell them the fucking customer and the customer's like that's unacceptable and they're like okay do you want to see my manager do you want to see the fucking co-owner of the store Shane you want to talk to the CEO is that what you want you want us to fly you out to London to go to corporate headquarters to get into a business meeting room with our CEO so we can explain to you that things are limited in this finite world that's not acceptable you're free not to accept it just as long as you don't accept it somewhere else that's not here and you'll find like the same guy comes back the following day like have you got them now it's like I said like Jesus Christ you don't want to live anymore I didn't leave that job because I found a better one I left it out of pure stress it was a nightmare in the purest sense it was the fucking worst job I've ever had there's more stories to come but I don't want to delay this too quickly it's just delay this more morally weirds fail me it's a bad thing and if everyone goes to retail and experiences it'll make you a lot more humble about people in real-time the best story I have and again I'll try and make this as quickly as possible is that we have a tents so think of them as several outdoor tent things and this is before software I was in control of outdoors first you'd have like the 4 foot tent then the 6 foot tent and then the 12 foot tent which many not many people buy but this guy wanted a 12 foot tent I was like okay I'll go find one for you they took me like 10 minutes in the back but I found a 12 foot tent and then by the time I was getting it out for him I realized that the box was all damaged and I was like fuck I can't sell this to a customer this is just bad and then after another 10 minutes I found a 12 foot tent and the box looked fine and I checked it and it was like it was missing one of the most important poles and I was like this can't work either so I woke up to my tail to check the stock see if it's more than two he was like is everything okay and I was like there are two in stock they're just they're not I can't they're not sellable and I think I said something like they're reserved to try and cover it instead of saying they're just broken because it makes the store look terrible so I was like yeah so I'm trying to find you a more different one he was like yeah okay fine and so I look for ages and then it says there's one in like warehouse B I go over there and I go out after searching for ages from the guy who works the warehouses like oh no we sold that one we haven't recorded it yet and I was like oh okay and you know after like a good half hour 40 minutes I remember coming back to this guy with the unfortunate information that he's just wasted his time standing here we don't have it and he's gonna have to wait X amount of time we'll go to a different store his reaction okay thank you for looking and he left I was just like wow yeah some people are you know nothing I can do about it and it's the idea that makes things appear the fundamental thing you have to appreciate in retail and this isn't 100% true but most of the time I don't want to waste your time I want you to get out and that's not supposed to be rude it's me telling you that I'm trying to get the job done as quickly as possible so I can get back to all the standard jobs that I have in the day regardless of customers which is typically a lot customers are usually on top of whatever jobs you have to do in the day so when a customer is like I want X you get it to them as soon as possible so you can get back on with your job so the idea that it's like you've been fucking me over trust me workers want you to go satisfied as soon as possible so try not to demonize them that's all and yeah I really appreciate that guy that guy was like my favorite customer ever and all he did was say okay that's the thing that you do that's the thing that you do it's not about everything and this is the thing it's not to say that everyone in retail is working their ass off for you some people are assholes some workers don't give a shit but it's just try and stay calm because my god I have some stories about the most asshole like fucking customers in history and you know the meme about how it's like a 40 year old woman with that standard hairstyle it's like yeah it was a lot of those yeah it's more than just a meme I swear anyway moving on do you guys want to say anything else before I carry on hmm no I think I'm good there alright if you can prove oh yeah sorry that's alright can you teach Fortia how to play this I don't want to rehash that one can you teach Fortia how to play a snowball bitty game in Pumble Party my forehead hurts so much from all the face palming also rags if I can ask how old are you you can't ask do you wish to not answer or answer the question I'm about three and a half by 7 7 14 21 20 24 and a half is that your age I don't know okay either way yeah Fortia is fucking terrible at the snowball game in Pumble Party and it's like my favorite game which one is that imagine being bad at Pumble Party you're all basically playing as big balls and you slam into each other on a platform that one's dumb I think that one's legit rigged no you just batted it if that's your case no I think it's I think there's some kind of a glitch or a bug or something you're a bad man he's really bad at it and I wish for him to be bad because I love that game anyway reading through the Han Solo trilogy I'm sad none of this can be made canon not even the solo family can exist if solo is a made up name is it Han Solo trilogy in like writing in the form I'm guessing or I guess they're books because I haven't heard of I guess there's probably tons of Star Wars books I've never heard of like I said about the Captain Marvel sequels if someone said like what the fuck would you want a Han Solo trilogy I was like it's well written I'd want it and I'm up for anything well written yeah if they're good I'll watch them if they're crap then because you know the idea of like who the fuck asked for a Han Solo prequel I'm totally in that camp but that doesn't mean it can't be good who the fuck needed a Han Solo prequel I understand that I fucking I'd understand a Snoke prequel more than that but off topic hey drinker do you eFap drunk or do you find it easier to get your criticisms up sober I'm afraid he can't answer that but I imagine he works sober and then likes to deliver it while drunk I don't know we have to have a um keep an eye out for like specific topical guest related super chats that's true actually we should try and do that it's really hard because the whole premise of not reading out the super chats earlier than uh this portion for them is to maintain the flow of conversation so sometimes like if I'm into it with someone else and then there's a question for them I'll miss it but um feels bad man but homecoming equals bad comics adaptation but fine film I'm okay with that comment on its adaptation but I think it's a fine film as well the only thing I've seen for the uh in terms of it being an adaptation is the high tops video so well I can't say I agree with that video he talks more than just wait what was your point again say that again sorry the only video the only thing I've seen about it being a bad spider man adaptation is the high topic he makes more than just an argument about it being a bad adaptation he says at one point that uh something along the lines of like there are no repercussions for anything that happens in the film that's his first point and then his point after that that's more than just a comic adaptation point though then there's a line where he's like oh he also does face consequences but those don't count this is the problem I covered it with friggy and friggy was like oh can I be on the e-fat we covered this I was like sure but I was like you probably want to be on it as well and shad wants to be on it as well we just have fucking everybody on it we'll have another 10 or 20 years friggy let message friggy tell him the e-fat now is he online yeah well can you do it while I read out super jazz fine mauler I'll do it it's fine don't worry about it I hope Danvers pulls a Daenerys in the MCU I actually agree with that wait why would you just ring him you gotta ask his permission first holy fuck I listen when he comes in we'll just tell him right off the bat what you just did was a racism friggy it's important okay listen friggy all right we're live just let you know we're e-fapping so anything you can say can it will be used against you in the public why did you do this to this poor man so because I we were Jay and mauler and I we were we were talking about retail and we wanted to ask you what was your opinion on the Emancipation Proclamation pro against in the middle of what this is out of we're super chatting alright okay why did you do this to this poor man how could you do this he's okay so mauler said so the Emancipation that was Lincoln right why I don't know you talking about so we were doing an e-fap and I said hey we should ask Fringy if he wants to come on and mauler told me to do it and of course I fucked it up because I don't know how to run the show so it's mauler's fault because he knew that I would mess it up okay alright that's okay I don't know what the situation with you is right now Fringy in terms of free time what happened was I mentioned he's got a lot of free time because of the Emancipation Proclamation there's been a lot of talk about how Spider-Man Homecoming is bad tonight and I mentioned the high now it's funny you say that because I literally got home from watching Spider-Man like 20 minutes ago oh shit you've seen the new one I have what do you think yeah I enjoyed it the the last post credit scene is something but yeah I enjoyed it is it better or worse than Homecoming I'm probably going to have to think about that it's kind of tough because Homecoming is so solid I'm careful Fringy I can't say that because MJ's black what who cares I know who does care apparently some people out there give a shit I mean this one's a lot bigger in scope like Homecoming is quite a small story this one's a bit a lot bigger which is fine because I think they handled it well and there was a lot of good stuff working for it in terms of character he's absolutely not in the same place that he was at the start well as sort of obviously setting things up for the future because this is the first post endgame movie well I'm happy that you think that way because I mean me and you pretty much a one-to-one on Homecoming so I'm hoping I enjoy it yeah Homecoming is awesome and anybody who says it isn't is objectively wrong oh my god this is spicy we've dealt with a night of chat and guests saying Homecoming isn't very good we've got a straw pall up what was it oh you know it's right on my screen now 40% of people in the straw pall say that Homecoming Homecoming was not good 40% wow why well this is the thing so we were talking about the high top video and I said that me and you watched it we thought it was terrible and the rags were like it's really bad we're currently talking about superchats I saw that video unfortunately let's watch it right now I I don't really want to I don't really want to look at what you've done you've disturbed this poor frog slumber slash day kind of yeah look at this shit literally back to back these three comments in chat from different people Homecoming was average I loved Homecoming I don't even know that there's any kind of consensus on Homecoming yeah but the thing is it is underrated because a lot of people don't say that it's one of the best ones which it is I loved Homecoming I thought it was one of the most securely solid ones yeah for me it's in the top three I'm surprised it's not so highly received that's why we say it's underrated the problem is the problem is right now we have four people who think Homecoming is pretty great so we gotta because people in chat are going to be very frustrated there's no one here to represent the idea that it's not great that's why I want to make an eFab for it I want to have videos we can cover about it I want to have guests that hate it so we can get a good old conversation about it instead of just dragging innocent Mr. Fringon to just say that it's good you know we can't be doing that it's rude yeah rags is the true villain of eFab am I am I really or am I just a different kind of hero the anti hero yeah no I mean that's a good hopefully I can enjoy watching it I'm seeing Homecoming on Tuesday I believe rags did you say you were seeing it on Wednesday or did Wolf say that I don't know I don't have any like specific plans to see it we're just going to see it when it comes out as long as you see it before next Sunday because that's probably when we'll talk about it okay I think that people are actually like the original Sam Raimi ones there's a little thing in there that I think they'll like without saying anything there's a little thing in there that they'll like okay do you think it'll be better received than Homecoming well hmm he's not in New York you know like he's not I don't know this is what I mean it's like a lot of people yes I see a lot of people say things like oh man it'd be good to see him actually like web-slinging around New York he's not in New York though I mean obviously like he's in the trailers though but I don't know it feels like a lot of people don't like it because it's not very traditional you know in terms of where it is and what he's doing and things like that but that's why I like it because we've already had five Spider-Man movies no we need another origin story for Spider-Man he has to get bit by a radio actor spider in Science Lab the majority of us haven't seen it and we haven't got anybody who disagrees with it so it'll have its time chat don't worry there are things like there are things that we are a little bit like iffy in terms of plot there are just things where I was down like that seems a little bit far-fetched I've got to imagine somebody would have noticed that or things like that and yeah I think the post-credits scene is going to be real interesting to hear what people think of that one it changes a lot despite the fact that I don't think it intended to it does I can't wait to see it and when I see it I'll finish it and I'll message Fringy like hey want to talk about how terrible it is and Fringy be like either way I mean it's really like in terms of Marvel movies this year it's in a good spot because while I think we all enjoyed Endgame a lot it's riddled with problems from a spritzen plot perspective and Captain Marvel is the worst one so it's really like nothing else not a strong competition I understand no alright well I mean it's up to you if you want to stay or not but we're currently reading through Super Chess yeah I'll stay but I'll be back in a couple of minutes alright how the heck does Doom Eternal look bad by what metric can it be considered lacking I'm so trugged that would have been answered trugged oh thank Christ they finally got the drinker Praise be Saint Don the Benevolent Adopter of Orphans, Rider of Motorcycles Breaker of Awkward Silence and Protector of the Innocent I completely agree Salad King Would you rather have an all-inclusive 24 hour date with the Don at the end of which you will die peacefully and painlessly or spend 12 hours with the Don before he dies peacefully in the hospital I would rather die I don't think we can deprive the world of the Don yeah that's a toughie that's really a toughie that was from Mr. Massive by the way that guy knows his shit tough question I would go with the Pryor because the Don spreads positivity like no one else but what would the Don want yeah that's the ultimate I think Don would be upset at the idea that someone dies for him he's already had so many people he had his wife died who knows I don't know Captain Marvel has a higher kill count than Thanos that's not true I don't think that's true technically she has a higher kill count possibly than the Thanos from Endgame but not from the Thanos I don't think anyone can beat Thanos's kill count the Thanos from Endgame doesn't fucking have a kill count yeah he does he's been obliterating planets up to that point okay I don't screen kill count like a confirmed kill in that case yeah he killed literally nobody actually I don't think he killed anyone did he only hurt people I don't think he actually killed anybody he's the good guy confirmed he was already Thanos did nothing wrong 20 years between Captain Marvel and Endgame why didn't Captain Marvel try to stop Thanos at any point during that period it's established in Guardians that Thanos is known galaxy wide as Space Hitler well let me tell you about something called a retcon that means that when the story is already running someone adds a thing in there and sometimes it can be really clunky and it ruins everything we call this Captain Marvel that's because she's flawed they'll be like why didn't you stop Thanos she's like there are other planets in the galaxy that need my help that don't include Thanos she was like he was literally next on my list when he did the thing okay she's justified she didn't stop she didn't stop Thanos for the same you cut out what did you say she didn't stop Thanos for the same reason I haven't watched Lord of the Rings yet and what reason is that I don't know I want them to adapt Civil War 2 so we can watch the feminists and the minorities fight over whose side is right hey so Civil War 2 huh do you guys know anything about Civil War 2 the comic they're not going to do it there's no way it's basically Minority Report except they try to unironically present it as though Minority Report do you really think they'll make Captain Marvel the obvious bad guy the thing is like the comic doesn't treat her like she's clearly wrong it kind of presents it as though Tony's a little bit overly paranoid as like no he's right unequivocally right that's why it's such a bad story and everybody fucking hates that one that's your opinion Don is Anakin done right what when are we with Don and Anakin connected if you haven't seen Tony's new format it's incredible we will be covering it that was actually a backup there's it's not it's not it's not you might assume from the term new format that it's very different it's not very different it's different though and we will definitely cover on eFap it was gonna be a backup today if we got through the third video but as you can tell that the second video took us to a second eFap so there's no fucking chance we're gonna be able to but yes we will definitely cover him he's a glorious boyo the best doggo has returned to us hi rags missed you hello it's I missed me too here you go only three things are certain in life death, taxes and spider-man coming out Benjamimbo Frank Laggins Benjamimbo Frank Laggins I just intrude my little brothers to lord of the rings hashtag one less J have any of you guys played Bloodstained I, no no there's no point asking J for your anniversary special you should have James Moron we could do that James Moron oh damn I didn't mean to insult but that's how words work they sound like different things when they put up with different words that's my bad wolf have you switched Breath of the Wild to pro mode I'm gonna say no on that wolf is very bad at Breath of the Wild he is super cash he's bad conclusion you guys should get tonal on eFap 50 he'll never come on he refers to us as hate videos okay getting him on will be impossible but honestly if we get him on it will probably be episode 100 that will be the time where we get him on and I will try for episode 100 you can hold me to that but I'm not promising anything trick him into it then from James Moron we did read this out but your next rags I'll DM you on Thursday using discord then I'll move to tgbp so we can get eFap verses them eventually love y'all yep our rags is next up for a switch that is insanely an already extremely generous person doing even more generous that is is he the Don? he might be the Don he wears a helmet to try and protect the fact that he's not the Don because we would know and it is within Don's character to wear helmets so I can't help but wonder if he's the one if he's the Don in disguise not sure if you guys have seen it but you should look at legal eagles pinned response on that video it's one hell of an oof we actually discussed it was it yesterday yeah we talked about it yesterday funnily enough we could, I'll make a note we could put that on eFap actually we'll read it out and just talk about it just for that super chat no not now we'll do it for the next one read, eagle, eat, legal gotta spell this correctly otherwise what's the point in life legal eagles pinned comment on this did we record that because I could just post the recording of it I thought the whole point was that you failed to record it no I did record it I thought I failed to record it and then I realized I did record it and that was the whole thing well either way no because eFap is not the same I was just uploading some random recording J what universe are you from I'm a lot so this is from Eldon I'm a long time rags viewer and I found the streams through him I haven't stopped eFapping since he's the best boy molar and wolf are icing on the cake gracias for the days of quality streams big rags fan from Mr. Eldon and is it a coincidence that his name is the same as the savior of eFap I think not so after I watched the endgame eFap I hear that it's back in theaters why was it me so the idea is that they've added deleted scenes apparently that's going right now in my theaters have you seen anything to do with that Fringy are you watching that one I've heard what you're talking about the re-release of endgame yeah I've heard about it I mean I wouldn't go no I mean I'll just wait for the I'll just wait for it on a paid like Google play okay that's fair enough I just mean I don't know how much they've changed I'm tempted to go see it myself I think I wouldn't mind doing it why not but yeah maybe they had a funeral for that oh that probably should have been in the movie they did a scene for it they were talking about how they were sad that people died it was there Hulk throws a bench into a puddle that's not the scene I'm referencing it's the one with Hawkeye face and then also Scarlet Witch is sad face because the girlfriend slash boyfriend slash robots have died oh that scene is nice all this artwork is more valuable someone else's funeral that scene takes place why people have died you know dude how clunky would it be if they had a fucking full-on funeral for every character that died well okay in obviously not after infinity war but in endgame at least two characters die right so no wait who am I missing all of Thanos' minions are you gonna have a funeral for each of them shut the fuck up the black order would that be great if they had a funeral for Thanos you just yeah you had like a thing pushed out into the water and you have all the space dogs there mournful in tuxedos yeah thousands and thousands just talking to each other all this artwork is more valuable than whatever I could get or give I James Moore said that the artwork was amazing but I mean don't don't it's tough to value things in that way don't ever it's complicated there's no definitive answers money is as worth as what people see it as worth is as it is subjective that what Jay just said that thing upside down skittles of fives rags duh upside down skittles of five and no it's an S I think it's still an S I don't have to clarify that with science well no let's just use our noggin's here S you flip it upside down it's still an S what about if it's at 90 degrees that's your opinion no I don't think so alright I hear it's paint just draw an S and flip it that's what I'm fucking doing oh my god it's it's a well I was right wasn't I again well it's like a backwards yes it's not a five though it's a backwards S like the point on the top of the S is facing the right but if you flip it upside down then now it's pointing to the left did you flip vertically or did you rotate it up I flipped vertically because that's not actually what it's going to look like if you turn a schedule up what kind of fucking bullshit is that what do you mean what kind of bullshit is that that's true if you flip vertically it goes like yeah okay right if you rotate it if you rotate it 180 to the left when you turn a schedule it's just a weird symbol when you make the action of flipping a schedule what do you do do you rotate it or do you invert the physical like existing size when you rotate it 180 it's an S when you flip it vertically it's a weird square if you flip a schedule around it's just going to have no letter at all well yeah there's going to be an S on the other side yeah you can't see but if you turn it around if you have a schedule and you flip it around then you're looking at the S on the back now there is no aren't there two S's I'm pretty sure there's one S isn't there an S on the front well in the word skittles it begins and it ends with an S so it would make sense that each scale would have an S on each side does it though I don't know how to eat skittles I'm pretty sure they have skittles like M&M's I don't know maybe skittles what are you googling how many size skittles have an S they have an infinite amount of sides because they're fucked up round it looks I went to Amazon to skittles and I have a picture of skittles and many of the skittles pictured do not have S's on them let me show you a definitive look I'm looking at a bunch of skittles right now look at that some have S's and some don't that's what I said just a second ago that's the picture I was using some have S's some don't yeah the ones that don't have the S are the ones it's on the side that I can't see yes that's what I'm saying yeah they're on one side yeah they're on the side we can't see I said they might be well okay you're wrong I'm not a skittle connoisseur I don't partake of the skittles often the skittles I barely eat m&m's and I'm fairly certain that if you flip it becomes a ooh skittles are better than m&m's skittles are not better than m&m's yes they are you said that earlier in the stream I swear no m&m's are better than skittles that's incorrect yeah m&m fuck it chat m&m's taste better than skittles absolutely they do m&m's fuck it no m for skittles m for skittles m obviously skittles are better in an unopposite way I've not seen Evangelion has anyone else here seen it I'm pretty sure it's pronounced Evangelion why would I just admit I haven't seen it no it's Evangelion Evangelion I don't fucking know how you weird people pronounce things I'm from Bretagne I avenged the lions has anyone seen it here no I haven't damn if the stream is under 8 hours I don't want to refund well there you go we made it over 8 hours look at all those 2 streams obviously m&m's are better than skittles it's not even close holy crap I'd say it's pretty close actually it isn't they're clearly skittles are better than m&m's no why is this happening straw poll you can make that straw poll that's bad holy crap don't pinch me I don't want to wake up from this stream we're in desperate need of a serious drunken collaboration on something horrible you got it that was the thing that happened I love how the stream is so long that I'm probably going to be sober by the time I go to sleep uh pretty neat the last time a Whammon was on eFap was number 20 this is number 40 so does that make Critical Drinker a Whammon yep also hey there rags how are you hey I'm great I'm doing really good things are good in my life I'm so well I'm reporting even though you enslave your guests without pay this one can go to rags this is $10 alright so I have to remind myself you don't have to give me your PayPal email rags so I can get to some of you alright alright so I have the results of the straw poll on the screen right now it's very it's not even close it's very very clear it's 50 50 no no I post it's 50 50 Eminems is running away with it look at all that it is crushing the polls remember chat answer honestly ooh no that's not looking good no Eminems is definitely better I mean ok wait so you're 100% let's assume there's a gun to your head your family are on the line which do you actually prefer Fringy what's your answer uh I probably would prefer Eminem I prefer Eminems but that's my I'm precisely biased that I prefer chocolate to sweets that's my take on that even though sweets you're all dead to me hey hey which was your favorite Lord of the Rings movie J and J never spoke this is intense this is quite a close one until it wasn't right it's still relatively close oh oh no yeah it looks like there's a comfortable lead for Eminems now 60 40 as many people are right as many people are right about this as people talking about spider-man did God confirm that J is that what God did yes I disagree with God he's in it well maybe so but I demand to God explain himself I think you mean God explain herself and God explain itself is the kind of yeah it looks like 60 40 is the split on an average which means J has been defeated ultimately also it's Sally King all the Lord of the Rings movies Sally King wants 10 to go to Wolf and to critical drinker as well I will sort that out no problem and rex and Fringy gets all zero dollars just just demand some money and someone will give it to you I swear I don't really want to do that why does that somehow ruin your integrity I don't understand what's wrong with demanding money from people who are trying to enjoy your content for free what is wrong with that for me imagine they touched your map yeah that would be abuse also ragas you need to stream this is for ragas I will add the ragas fund you're up to 62 right now rex 62 dollars I'm paying you that as soon as this is done oh really you're like I've never been paying for eFap before this is my reparations it's 10 and 2 from these ones but there was a 50 on the other stream but I haven't spoken to it in a long time so yeah that'll it shall be done day off thunderstorms playing doom 2016 streaming eFap living the dream thank you no problem 2016 good shit man that multiplayer is amazing interestingly for the guy we had on he said that he loved 2016 he just thinks the new one looks like it's going to be bad I think I understand where he's coming to because with a lot of games they just try to do too much but I think that doom has always been fairly mechanically simple so it would probably do well for a bit of like in single player I'm totally down for it but I do actually have investment in doom multiplayer as I've said before just recently I really love doing 2016's multiplayer and I think they're outsourcing the multiplayer too so I'm curious how the attachments will work in multiplayer hopefully into OP or stupid but I think for single player it'll work fantastically no no homo but I would play monopoly with you oh that's kind doing that doom voice killed my throat rip oh so dr boson was the guy who did the doom voice wonderful we enjoyed it excellent how are you all how are all of you beautiful hatemongers today I'm well I'm doing very well I'm alright started efap had to leave came back still fapping if we go through with the 24 hour one for the 50th episode that shit's gonna be trying we're gonna be like trying for the audience if they can keep up with us yes that is the take is the take question for wolf do you drink your do you drink your burners or is that burners V-E-R-N-O-R that are drinking V-E-R-N-O-R let me check it is a Dr. Pepper it's ginger ale soda I didn't even know that's what he drank I don't remember him specifying that I've never even heard of burners before I will put that in the wolf thingies that I've got going in my notepad so I'll make sure he gets to answer that I like ginger ale though it's yummy wolf rags are you actually each others types which of the IRL would you go out out where to the zoo I think he means sexually oh I don't know maybe you know what wolf looks like have you seen an image of him um I think I have but I've sort of forgotten and in a weird way I want to forget I don't want to know what any of you guys look like yeah I know what you mean you like to just maintain whatever the image I like the image I like the voice in the picture and hearing you in my head and he said yes or he says why or why I don't know if it meant to be yes or no I mean maybe I think I could get along I think I could probably get along with wolf but the thing is I'm kind of I really really enjoy my personal space and being able to get away from people like I'm not really a guy that I don't really I'm not into like serious relationships and there's an element of like let's say you were friends with wolf IRL you might be like I don't want to potentially ruin the friendship with the yeah plus wolf's a fag so I don't know how that would work in the long run but fair enough interesting question Mola use music from co-tour in your Star Wars critiques I stick to the movie music because I only stick to the movie criticism but if I was to involve co-tour I would consider it uh why are you watching Doom Eternal it's not out in Britain yet God yeah or America Australia live in the future that's their benefit I'm pretty sure I came out in China on Friday well fuck the China man the China does China really exist have you been there yeah let me guess you've seen pictures you've heard stories yeah because that counts huh no real proof this is I hate green people making these kind of statements without any kind of fucking I bet you think Australia's real too yeah see see nothing on Jordan island far far away from civilization where the spiders eat birds yeah I'm not buying that mm-hmm oh the spiders are as big as dinner plates yeah okay I used to be an old prison colony yeah yeah yeah oh Kroger has a six foot okay there's a whole conspiracy theory about how Britain killed the prisoners instead of sending them to Australia and Australia was a cover-up that's the thing this is straight it's not real oh yeah it's not real theory now is that actually real or I swear I've seen people Australia is flat it's not spherical that is the truth that's your opinion doesn't even deny it doesn't even deny it I deny it there you go he is a verbal terrorist of the toxic brood now now that's that's an interesting term verbal terrorism hey that's that's what the toxic brood that's what the toxic brood does yeah here's money for the memes thank you Corey I personally think Flynn Taggart is relatable in doom who's Flynn Taggart see the main dude the other name of doom guy no no his name is Flynn that's gay Flynn Taggart or fly for short was born on August 15th 1969 in Denver Colorado is the protagonist of the original doom novels I didn't know that I shared a link to it says aka bjblaskowitz the third is this real I'll read this have you ever been to Australia Australia is not real it's a hoax made for us to believe that Britain moved over their criminals to some place in reality these criminals were loaded off the ships into the waters drowning before they could have seen land again it's a cover up for one of the greatest mass movers in history made up by one of the most prominent empires Australia does not exist all things are absolutely well fabricated lies are the documents made by the leading governments of the world you're Australian friends they're all actors and computer generators so far there's been lots of trick in the world if you think you've ever been to Australia you're terribly wrong the plane pilots are all in on this they've all actually floored you to the islands close nearby or in some cases parts of south america where they close space and hide actors to act out as real Australians this can't be real this cannot be real it's in a flat earth group I was going to say we wouldn't believe the flat earth believe is a real so the whole thing about this show have you ever been to Australia well at what point do you think this is all an this is a cover up that's going to cost an incredibly insane amount of money and what is the point continue within to perpetuity to do what to cover up potential murder of criminals yeah like does he not realize that just killing people killing criminals in the 18th century was super common and nobody gave a shit is a really massive inquisitorial research being done into what happened to particularly criminals he said massive he said massive surely not surely if like what's the fucking even population of Australia today 25 million people would that be one of the biggest mass murders of history surely like more people have been killed than that and fucking genocides biggest genocides well it's just like okay so they got 25 million actors they got 25 million kangaroos because that's about how many there are like what are the kangaroos are they just like people in costumes jumping around of course okay so moving on doom guy is more relatable than most of the guys you cover so he even makes a 2 reference when he dies doom guy's cultured I agree very developed character the kids who have the same first name in my high school so we called them by their last names I don't know if that was relevant something we were talking about probably was but it's so hard to remember talking about how calling the doom games the same name would and then like someone was like imagine if you had two carls in the same room it would get confusing rags if you were in a room with two carls you would of course refer to them as Carl and Carl eternal man how how shitty would it be if you were the one just Carl you were the one who became Carl eternal you'd be like why am I okay with this actually alright you are the Carl eternal and you're you're just Carl thank you Wolf for recommending the expanse audiobooks I've listened to the first one and you were right about the narrator it was amazing I'm sure you'd appreciate that I will copy it and prepare it for him in the future I pronounce that word right yes no disagreements I yeah this from blue J J is very geode oh yeah thank you now I gotta pay J too so that's 10 for rags for wolf for critical drinker and for J and I already know that there's some on the way for Fringy it depends how he'll find out how much if he stays for X amount of time oh this is like if you say like man as a joke you'd be great if I had some money people will do it J joke about it right now he'll get money yeah it sure would be great if I had some money I'd really like some money shut up J let's see what happens I put down agreements do maternal the officially licensed browser is a good game for heavy handed gentlemen geode beautiful the pole isn't glowing but CIA knickers sure are that's from Ra Ra has very interesting super chats we have to decipher sausage milk to the massive in chat who came after me after what I said about the pole and tried to tell me what this podcast is about I've been here since day one with the spiciest super chats you boomer reddit whore alright oh god there's so many from Ra on this page that I've got where you've got 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 I can see 14 and of the 14 9 of the Mara control after uh there's a lot of raw just super chat saying here's some money don't give any to J how do you feel about that I'm sure that can be arranged this guy probably loves my subversion love y'all I mean yeah most people would argue that anything that's poorly written is a subversion yeah it works and a lot of good things anyway I want a mod for this game that puts pride flags and pro-abortion signs in the hands of all the demons I probably make that mod yourself I imagine I don't know if anyone has uh this video is spastic these things are bad because they're not old doom these things are bad because they are old doom isn't anything not bad I mean we did try to explore each of his issues when he came on um I don't know what you could conclude from what he said but um I think he did he say that he would he wouldn't have said it was terrible if he was to remake the title I can't remember Jay you remember he said that and then he went on to say oh yeah but I still think it was terrible I swear that's what happened it was a strange it's been the entire night time and now it's day time again yeah it's 521 me and Jay are gonna be able if we make it for another hour and 40 minutes we will actually outdo the previous long record even though actually Jay only turned up two hours into the uh yeah so you won't actually be able to I will have the record finally no end it now doom 2016 lore is amazing it connects in references to every doom game from what I'm aware of the og doom had a story it was just a simple one that's the thing I'm not opposed to a story in doom go for it especially if it's well written holy shit that's great uh daily reminder Amir did nothing wrong 17 centuries of Mamali's family cost is a lie stop hating your ancestors and fighting Mali's wars that's a reference to Norse mythology and I think Wolf said he's the only person who would understand it because he's the only person who knows Norse mythology enough to be able to there we go I guess me waiting for Elden Ring and Sekiro DLC is like Dumbledore crying in that scene in the cave from the end of Half-Blood Prince Dumbledore cry in Half-Blood Prince I don't remember nobody here likes Half-Blood Prince I haven't partaken of like any Harry Potter related stuff in ages I don't remember I don't remember this idiot just wants another have you seen Harry Potter yeah I've seen all of them that's actually something I assume he did see and he has this idiot just wants another kola de clone I don't think it was that simple but I don't know how complicated it was either I don't give a crap about doing a tunnel until the pride flag mod comes out just give me Kojima's bullshit and Elden Ring right now you'll get him eventually 7 out of 10, too many plot holes not sure what that's a reference to yellow pole bad yellow pole was the worst thing about doing a tunnel anyone who's red-pilled knows why this guy is probably attacking the poles probably a reference to Polish people I don't know it's a joke in there anyway, hi Mola having seen the Great British Podcast where nitpicks guested I wonder if you would debate them on objectivity vs subjectivity question I like them but their points need taking down by the long man yeah so unfortunately they had nitpicks on to guest which is a popular video essay podcast and he was like there is no way to objectively assess a movie and I'm not saying this is my take but a lot of people's take was that they inefficiently argued against him and he had me to come on and argue about it but I was asleep and I woke up an hour after he asked me and I was like oh come on then he was like it's too late we've moved on and I was like oh no maybe I don't know if nitpicks would want to come on to this podcast though if they knew me wolf and rags would be like objectivity is a thing roar that could be terrifying Fringy doesn't come on this podcast specifically for that reason what I'm sorry I'm not a bigot I believe in equality for all I'm just saying polls have a right to self-determination and deciding the direction for their nation alright then yeah sure I agree what do you want from doom let's just say I would love it if they were hyper realistic and set in a super liberal city center alright yay for drinker on eFap was wondering if drinker if you would consider Tom Clancy's actual novels as an influence credit to the dude from doom vid from coming on to chat hope you enjoy eternal I hope he enjoys it too and as for the question for drinker I mean kind of difficult because I can't exactly send him a message and have him respond to it just unfortunate that yeah we'll try and look out for them in future guest questions the unfortunate thing is that if we started doing that there could be a build up of guest questions because the super chest want to sort of be responded to and then it could fuck things up I don't know how the best do that but uh yeah a lot of guests are not able to stay for the the amount of hours that the hosts are because the hosts have girth that's unmatched isn't that right guys and length length and girth they can't handle it not sure if you've heard but everything great about made a video on captain marvel if you need more content I have not seen it but just a part one yes the thing he's made he's making two parts on how great captain marvel is it's like uh the only other things he's done that for infinity what did you say the only other things he's done that for as far as I'm aware are in so it's infinity war lord of the rings captain marvel yeah I mean most people do say that those are the greatest movies to exist so I love they're great I just well we we might cover it one day a lot of things in line to cover so maybe one day drinker I normally don't like channels with a shtick but I like yours a lot like I do toss pots keep it up but when that shtick is alcohol I'm game yeah I think he and toss pot will both keep it up Stacey Moeller do you even like know who we are I don't know I don't make sense of that I don't understand you asked Mr. man when he arrived man oh well I did say I was genuinely just curious it didn't matter if he did or not I was just curious if he because he was weird he actually said as a point of pride that his video managed to get him on to this podcast which is like I was just like oh I didn't know that that's how people would feel about this podcast you know but they make a video so bad that it gets them on there is a good thing you know I mean yeah it's a little anyone who's made a video bad enough to be effect deserves bad things to happen to them I said that J guy he's alright no he's the worst I agree id software presents Jimmy Dean sausage eternal come on guys he just doesn't like thick it's okay to be wrong sometimes yeah okay it is okay to be wrong I'll be fine with the polls if they add a mod to use the polls to beat women and men who say the 19th amendment was a good idea what's the 19th amendment don't worry about it the 19th amendment I believe that was the one I gave the women the right to okay the new doom guy does kind of look like he was drawn by rob the field I'm assuming that's a sausage enthusiast what else could it be there are many sausage enthusiasts in the world I am one of them props to you dude for being a good sport yeah if anything if I missed to say thanks for coming on person who made the doom video cry more that guy thanks for coming on it's always nice to hear that the content creator spawned when he said he had several things to say to us as a response I was like oh god I hope that we haven't like fucked everything up but it did seem to be the criticism in stride from what I understood most of your video when your video has a dislike ratio that bad it's kind of difficult to not take more criticism on in your stride did he say that it was one of the the most the ratios was one of the most disliked videos in the history of youtube I think he said yes which doesn't surprise me it was worse than youtube rewind ratio as well not numbers like of course the worst ratios of the ones that got like one dislike and no likes but right they're not really a thing I'll take a doom guy that has thick wrists over a doom guy with spliced dick any day at least doom didn't get the geese of war estrogen treatment spliced dick I guess because the protagonists of the new geese of war gills I'm assuming that's the content spliced dick I don't know what am I supposed to do with that rags I don't need you to translate what spliced dick is referring to google it I don't know hey wolf just got ore on sale I hope it's good I could wolf adores ore I think ore is awesome hopefully you'll enjoy it movement speed in eternal is actually slower gay j what it's slower gay j that's not relevant to me apparently it is I don't know hopefully it's not too slow congrats on 200k subscribers that was a big barrier of blockage to overcome why thank you David any update on tfa part 3 currently working on the game of thrones one it's gonna be about 2 hours and 40 minutes I am still getting the audio done which means recording the script and then editing the audio as well as any parts where I'm like referencing clips and stuff it's about half half ish way done I've had a cold recently I've been muting every time I cough so that it doesn't interrupt the stream it's been really frustrating because well as a sticky boy whenever I record I have to take like a million takes because you can tell when someone so like the difference would be me saying something like this I'd be saying something like this you'd be like oh he's clearly there's something wrong with this delivery so I don't know so yeah I'm trying to are you gonna be okay see see right there that's the problem so it's delayed me a bit but there's a very long man video on the way and I'm already very happy with the script it's all about the question are you are you afraid to tell us that it's cancer it's all about episode five of season eight of Game of Thrones that it will come out as for TFA part three it's only in script form I will tell you guys as soon as I start making that but it's still not being currently made it will be eventually I can do as an update I'm afraid working on something else are you aware of the news the Anna sister yes we did talk about it I'll talk about it again once we reach the end of this as well oh man alright congrats sorry I read that also nice to have fellow Scotsman on EFAP in fitness Jay is quite the Scotsman you may not have been born there but he's got the scott blood in him right Jay Jay's a scottman I live in Scotland are you a scottman though I am not a scottman originally but I like to feel that I have become more scottman than I used to be you sound kind of like a sissy yes you need to you need to talk like this a bit more and get some air on your chest you got to fucking interrupt people when they're talking about something you got to fucking drink a lot too I know it yeah you haven't got the fucking accent right do you I can't do the accent on demand I can sometimes do it I mean you can't bloody do the accent on command oh neither can you apparently I just can't do it I do it all the time all my Scottish friends oh jeez I'm uncomfortable now oh you wouldn't be uncomfortable if you were a true Scotsman oh cool there's a wasp in my room oh I'm going to kill it for invading your country I've got shutters in the window I can just shut it in that small space and it wouldn't bother me how can you talk about rights like that I'm not a wasp I'm a massive a massive wasp this is massive um womb raider starring beefy sausages and big poles I know I think this womb shall be your doom enough with the luke defences all white heroes are being destroyed stop defending this I'm not even white I'm bloody persian persians can be white persians a nationality not a race there you go love your content wolf muller and rags you guys should go on Hannibal and monti's shit show like you they appreciate good writing and film who's Hannibal and monti shit show never heard of it if they invite us we can totally jump on yeah absolutely on godzilla I'm a huge fan of godzilla and I argue that godzilla king of the monsters is not only objectively bad but also a fucking insult to godzilla fans I've got a script and I'm collecting clips but I'm gonna scream at this for an hour $20 shout out so he's called steve's thoughts gonna make a video on why king of the monsters is not only bad but bad for godzilla fans too check it out if you wanna know I mean that's pretty much the position that me and rags are on is a fucking terrible film well hold up I don't think we said it was bad for godzilla fans right because I don't exactly know what that means so if anything what I have come to learn is that godzilla fans seem to have very very low standards yes the standard is we like to see monsters hit each other what their standard is ooh king of the monsters which I can understand 100% by the way that movie was great when people realize that there are no white people in Hollywood stop attacking characters I love because of your because you are ugly and need affirmative action I mean you can have non white people it's all good if anyone in chat is invested in the music industry what do you think of the gibson controversy lately my thoughts screw gibson I have no idea gibson controversy someone will probably have to the guitars right well as far as I'm aware they make a lot of stuff like they make amps as well I'm pretty sure they're just like a production company for music related instruments slash heck I don't know yeah I guess if anyone can fill us in on what the gibson controversy is I would appreciate it because I don't really know what the gibson controversy is hmm what's the controversy surrounding gibson I gathered that I don't know because contrary to popular belief the spanish-american war was not fought either between the spanish nor the americans hmm they were fought by the australians against the british to prove that australia existed absolutely it's one of the most miss well the alleged australian yeah we all know are actually an offshoot of the belgians or I need to stop being king because I'm a runaway drunk who failed now take over the throne and take my kingdom a runaway drunk black lesbian yeah I didn't think it was particularly great myself is she a lesbian allegedly I guess if you I guess if you're a valkyrie you're just surrounded by vag all day you're probably going to develop a liking how going to an all boys catholic school turned me gay I think she's a lesbian in the same way dumbledore is gay like it's never in the actual or anything like someone said it once so it must be true she's a token lesbian dumbledore isn't a token gay he's like a a gay but without being confirmed gay in the thing so it's like always gay by the way he's like okay cool thanks apparently gibson is suing dean because of the shape of their guitars however many guitar bodies are designed in economic ways there's not so much they can do with the body of a guitar all right gibson to be in twats maybe I don't know more context might reveal the difference maybe I'm sick of these jews attacking masculine men I don't know jewish I don't know about that seems like a little bit of a stretch to me oh wait I did read this one out before but molly you're objectively wrong about the thaw mum scene and this will always be your worst take they had mommy make him a soy cock instead of odin coming but if you had odin come back and give him a boosting scene again wouldn't that kind of be like redundant it's like jeez every single time thaw gets in any way like discourage thaw odin turns up in a dream sequence to go hey you're good yeah and then when it happens in ragnarok it kind of it kind of loses its impact you know and I like the idea that the mum has something to say to him to boost him but yeah it's a controversial subject so a lot of people hate what they did with thaw so yeah I think thaw definitely could have been handled better without a doubt I don't think it was terrible you can prove the wrong bite right now by coming up with a mistake free Palestine what do you have to say nothing exactly silence is something I've heard that that's true Mock Wade and Alex Ross Kingdom come comic is very good way a hero who fails is redeemed they could have used that for thaw fair enough alright oh sweetie you don't have to be a strong responsible leader of your people just sit back and eat cheez-its while bulls and foreigners take over I mean Valkyrie was an Asgardian person foreigner taking over but I still don't my problem is more to do with your credentials but then it when you're dealing with something that's down to like a village that's the size of your entire civilization maybe a leader at that point becomes a little arbitrary as to point someone who can do it yeah that party scene where they compare their GFs was great but cuck weed and ruined that moment with Maria Hill coughing and going testosterone I mean when guys are showing off how good their GFs are I think there's a thing to be said that there's a masculine move I don't know that's reasonable and if you're a woman you don't want to lose that you don't want to you don't want to be the ugliest girlfriend in the world what Asgard controlled like seven worlds tops alright because I think critical drinker said oh I don't remember who said it but they said something like it's a galaxy spanning thing I don't know that's the problem with the MCU is we don't actually know the influence of Asgard exactly they control the is it seven realms I can't actually remember the number but the Kree Empire is also supposed to span well he's correct they apparently got out of control and he's trying to re-control them but the Kree Empire is supposed to spread through the Milky Way galaxy right or am I crazy yeah no that's that's they are like the Milky Way controlled by the Kree yeah which is why it's like oh so is there a crossover with the Kree and the Asgardian I don't know the MCU doesn't really address that or at least it hasn't yet so although they can now because Asgard has been obliterated but hey I'll get better more let's send you a meme several days ago stitch my name on Twitter and you'll find it don't need to play it today just want to make sure you got it I tend to go I tend to go through everything on Twitter for the most part I want to recommend that anybody who doesn't get their meme shown don't take it personally it could be that I missed it it could be that I also thought that maybe it shouldn't be shown for whatever reason but if you don't see it if Mahler doesn't show your meme he thinks it's shit if he doesn't show your meme you can always send it I think they're great I would have shown it myself but you know getting Mahler to give the okay on some of these things is like herding cats when I pretty sure yesterday when we were talking in private you wish for the only reason you wouldn't show a meme was because you didn't like the person personally right what if you got a personal issue with with the person showing the meme if you don't show a meme that means you hate the person who sent it I hate every choice they've made in their lives up to the point where they made the meme I know them 100% yes that's something yes what and uh yeah no like I said if if I don't if you mean doesn't get shown don't take it personally but I don't show every single meme to everybody because some of them seem sometimes some of them are a bit awkward and that's all this uh if you've only sent it once send it more than once because I might have missed it uh Bucky take the shield Sam I know I'm the perfect day to Steve's legacy with the option arc ahead of me but there was this one time in world war two where I didn't share my rations with the no I don't know if I can say it because then I get in trouble what did they say Negro literally that how did you know that did you read it already it's like one for one what they said no how like Nevada's I'm so sorry something you're like oh I can't say that then it's gonna be a it's gonna be a it's not it's not a bad word are you kidding me have you seen youtube these days well I mean no I mean like yeah they think anything's right interest it's in my interest to maybe steer it in a way that protects e-fap vaguely that's all no we we don't support using the word negro like Samuel L Jackson says true but like in a in a term of endearment he's like shit Negro yeah but the thing is that alone can get you fucking banned on youtube that's all I understand about it which is why I don't condone it at all I don't condone its use at all I'm just repeating what I've heard you're not allowed to use quotes except when you're allowed no if everyone was revived where they died does that mean the aliens that died traveling in this ship came back in space and suffocate immediately we talked about this yes that's what it means it's horrific there will be a whole movie going through every single person who came back in a situation that would have died because they don't have the technology that they had when they disappeared that'll be a movie they will make us realize how fucking awful the decision was to snap everyone back in to understand the gravity of the hulks move to snap we will understand that endgame was a bad decision overall that movie will happen MC you should have ended with Iron Man 1 yes change your mind where's part of endgame equals zero thematic resolution to the challenges posed to the heroes by Thanos principles and ideology in infinity war trading lives, willpower, parents flash kids, all themes were wasted where they though because Iron Man kills himself to put everything right technically which is the one thing they weren't willing to do in infinity war sacrifice the individual for the many you could definitely argue that that's thematically relevant yeah just remember the themes but yeah something to think about Hawkeye and Widow are still there though with no idea Thanos knows Nebula probably just didn't want to leave him high and dry so to speak yeah but you can still have Nebula say hey guys Thanos knows and then she goes back but instead when Thanos is lifting her into a ship she's like gee if there was just some way I could escape right now damn well better get captured Thanos winning should have been the end of the MCU I mean you know for your own personal canon it can be it can be that's a dumb idea it depends is one bus full of orphans oh that was when I questioned two buses full of children is one of them full of orphans that is a good question oh wait what did you present a moral quandary I said yeah if you had two buses full of equal amounts of children but what if one of them was a bus full of orphans what is that really a moral quandary at that point not really a bus full of something then yeah they're not even are they recognized as things I don't know it's full of weight full of something I don't know what we call stuff it's full of potential organs it's full of organ donors I watched Thor for the plot well the plot got thick in endgame yeah boy I was okay with Tony dying because he was an orphan technically but if he was if he counts as an orphan doesn't everyone counts as an orphan not if the parents are alive once their parents die you're an orphan so that means that everybody who gets very old is basically an orphan right yep okay can you confirm this uh I am capable of it yes here tell you what I'll have my top men work on this and we'll get back to you they said he can confirm it but he didn't confirm me he said he's possible that he could do it I reckon he's a liar okay you're a liar yeah I have lied within my lifetime shut up rags infinity war better than endgame I mean like objectively yeah that's what we agreed I don't think you have actually a statement I liked endgame war for purely subjective reasons you were more solid objectively uh I was okay oh wait sorry he snapped away half the food too sorry what the fuck oh so what the fuck the food isn't counted as living creatures is it I mean I guess well what if you have a civilization of cannibals yeah they're upset because half the food is gone I agree with them yep what if all the people are the resources so what happens then checkmate atheists drinker if Thanos's snap wasn't random but targeted a specific group of people it would stop all aid going to Africa and the expansion of the global homo capitalist empire preventing another population if he was to do it specifically I wonder what he would actually choose like if he was like get rid of all the people who are currently suffering imagine that I mean he was pretty um well I mean would you rather that's interesting would you rather snap away all of the like the criminals the criminals of a planet and the homeless of a planet before you snapped away all the people who are productive members of society with jobs and stable families I mean what value do we assign to what that is the question of infinity war that endgame does not answer and that is it's main floor I can headcanon the endgame mess because everyone is all happy dappy howdy-doodie honky-dory in the timeline Aunt Thanos left well mostly maybe I guess we'll never see it molar is a bartender the rum and coke you drank on stream with wolf was basic tell me what you have in your kitchen and I'll fix you a proper cocktail I usually just pick up rum from my local store and then drink that so I don't really care for rum that much I'm pretty picky when it comes to my harder liquors I just like spirits and I way prefer spirits that taste yeah rum typically tastes better to me than a lot of spirits that's for example I really don't like beer I hate wine as well wine tastes like vinegar to me yeah I like white wine but I do not like well red wine is okay but I prefer white wine Jay which do you prefer spirits and red wine and that's basically all I'll drink don't you know that red wine is blood do you drink milk well I wasn't counting milk because obviously I well no it's not obvious that you drink milk some people don't like it it's like if someone was like what gases do you inhale you wouldn't be like because obviously you inhale um what are you saying it's obvious that someone drinks milk I just ask I just ask it if you drink milk obviously I drink some people don't like milk I love milk come on okay you unaware of vegans I mean I'm trying to one slowly but you're trying to become a vegan why well like because I don't like the meat industry very much then just just buy local stuff yeah that's why it's like I'm not very strict on it I can I'm not like it's just like I try to cut out as much like animal products and meat as possible but I'm not strictly vegan but I'm trying to get cut out more and more we say you want to become vegan like it's complicated like I want to become like fucking meat ethical and there isn't really a good word for that that not vegan so as vegan as the close one no no just a normal person you just won't buy from certain companies well like most meat producing companies though alright then just buy from the minority companies and then like it's easier at that point to just buy fucking veg as well mainly what I eat now is just veg alright well since we're on the subject what about the companies who produce vegetables unethically well I don't give a shit no god damn I haven't looked that up have it because I've seen some of these you know some of these farms that grow like zucchini and tomatoes and stuff and it is blatant overcrowding in miserable conditions they got they've got corn and and rhubarb just squeezed into these little dirt boxes kind of harrowing so I was curious what your stance was on it but if you want to keep it to yourself that's alright oh shit good talk more to do with the fact that it's almost a different character is it I'm so happy Jay is back on e-fapt I miss his holy aura he brings to an episode also do you still have the IHE recording about TLJ wolf he does and it probably won't be released more than well I don't know I mean is there something that I hate everything can do to oh yes but I don't think he would do that I mean I'd be surprised because not a smart move on his his half you know who knows Mola the blindfolded army and Dracula untold makes perfect sense everyone knows Turks don't have object permanence alright if we close our eyes the vampires do exist Quill in infinity war one of the few people willing to make the sacrifice needed to beat Thanos feels guilty about it a mess is up bigly Quill in endgame awi-zawi right in my infinity stones he doesn't get to do much in endgame but you could say that for Black Panther Doctor Strange and a couple of others get Hollywood superstar Rich Evans on e-fap do you really think that we could get Rich Evans I know you're out there and you can hear me in the cosmic ether please please come on e-fap I don't think he would dirty himself such an action but I mean I'm not against it yeah you, Jack, Jay, Mike all you guys cinema wins just released everything great about Captain Marvel you know what to do gentlemen we could cover that we can analyze it we can go through we've been doing a lot of Captain Marvel stuff recently so maybe that's why it was kind of refreshing to talk about TLJ for a bit we should have Drinker on more often also more Tosspot and ER please yes to all of them it'll just be a big rotation Thanos knows who the Avengers are the unruly A-holes that keep fucking up his plans to save the universe does he really need to know them personally in order to hate their guts for them to have interpersonal interactions with him yes for them to just be like this bad guy and then bad guy to be like these good guys that yeah that's part of why we really liked him in F2W was the personal interactions I mentioned in my video I love the fact that he takes time out of his galaxy conquesting shit to go hey will this guy who's in love with Gamora kill her if it means saving the universe let's test that because he can't do it because of my crazy powers with the glove but I want to see if he will that shit may be really interested in Thanos the fact that he's testing people and I'd love to see back and forth between him and those characters that are now in a position where they can defeat him instead of him being overwhelmingly defeating them versus this is a bad man these are the good man if I find was interesting Moeller I think you should check that Star Wars Guild's twitter we did and again we will talk about it at the end as well Thor Hammers say they be worthy he not he be worthy Thor Hammers say they be worthy not he be worthy I don't know okay Thor's hammer is gender inclusive and they are people shit talking both t.s.w.g oh right yeah on twitter drinkers right Mark Ruffalo had massive cuck energy I thought drinker said that it was a good thing that Ruffalo was playing him not a bad I'll have to clarify I have a flight but I will watch the recording once it's released from Warner Brothers Intrepid Fingers I actually did try to download it I've been denied the privilege so you are right about that not actually sure of what I'm going to do about that it might just be that this EFAP will be unavailable until we finally get it released which is unfortunate but what can you do I would want Thor to say something like I've already killed you once to Thanos since past Thanos did watch himself get decapitated yeah this is what I mean something like that would be pretty cool I'm on board with that have Shadman on stream a lot of people have mentioned Shadman there are some content creators that we can't just summon out of the aether we do try it took us a million years to get ER I was an elusive person but once we got Shadavistic people will get Shadman just because one guy Shadman is our Shadman yes not divisive it's a piece of shit I disagree Endgame was so disappointing I stopped liking movies after I watched it you're being hyperbolic wrong the god of the sun you don't need to be so hyper uh going to be a con of thrones on July 13th going to meet the Gilly, Gendry, Jamie, Bronn and Serio actors there we'll ask them to sign my coffee cup we'll try to post videos here from the convention great I hope it's fun I know that a lot of tension surrounding the fact that D&D are apparently going to be there and if they're taking Q&A questions that's going to be utterly insane I cannot wait to watch that honestly if I was their PR dude I'd be like do not go like the universe is a less as flow over just slip into the the background just disappear, lay low upset a lot of people like no he didn't fucked up the show that they really cared about and these are the people who take time and money to fly out to conventions and they're the people who care the most it's going to be exactly like BlizzCon with Diablo Eternal that's what it's going to be it will, yeah someone will ask them probably with season 8 and out of season 8 for rules joke I think there's still some of Hulk's ultra-chad personality in Professor Hulk actually just more Ruffalo Bruce I see this as a total win but your show I don't see any Hulk personality left in a combination myself but maybe there's something I missed I'll give the MCU another chance if they make a movie in which Tulsi Gabbard tucks me in, pats me on the head and gives me a warm cookie and tight hugs alright the MCU have been about to she wants to take your tax money and give health care to you sleep soundly that's she's the candidate right the candidate that people like a lot of people like, she's one of the least defensive candidate well I mean I just find the whole thing fascinating as an outsider the fact that the political race starts several months like more than a year before the actual election oh yeah that's a big song and dance over here it's fucking stupid just get it over and done with three months, four months, you know that's still too long but please accept my worthless Aussie dollar reduce the toxic brood helped me get through a really rough week, thank you Wolf will be pleased to hear that his incessant shilling for the expanses finally convinced me to start book one we'll be happy to hear that do a cynic snacks plug you right we're actually probably going to try and get him on relatively soon because he's back home now and yeah I've heard he's released a new video today so let's hope he makes some more cynic snacks deserves more subscribers that disgusting pizza um go check him out with Thor and Endgame I would have had him traveling around the nine realms helping them and new Asgard be a full Viking style village but only a small percentage of our Asgardians I just don't know I think there's a lot of yeah there's so little we actually know about new Asgard it's almost just the joke itself like that new Asgard there's not much beyond that it's like yeah there's a society there I suppose we gotta live somewhere Shadow Ones the name for the youngling shadows I love such a bad dream that Luke decided to kill all of his own students yeah that follows I believe in this narrative I want a flashback scene that shows Kylo accidentally killing every student in the school naked gun style while Benny Hill music plays jeez oh man I miss naked gun it was so funny I miss dead children I guess murdering students runs in the family yeah see it makes sense thematically and consistent to lily molla please no more TLJ I'll superchat a ground I'm sorry it had to be done TLJ is a returning monster it regains its strength every so often we have to pull it again I still think Luke is a fake planted by Snoke to corrupt Kylo only to regret it after he succeeds it's the only way it makes sense we'll see with episode 9 I wish Ryan Johnson had been shoved shoved in a locker as a kid and never found by anyone but then he wouldn't have made TLJ I don't have that guy that film was great EFAP would have never happened yeah that's the actual potential there our founding father is Ryan Johnson mmhmm TLJ starts Ray gives lightsaber to Luke Luke takes it, pauses, then turns it on and kills her dumb cunt movie begins and Luke is MC no wammons could have happened that would have been an alternate story for sure I wonder how much of episode 8 the next movie is going to retcon I can't wait to pick my seat when I see an empty theater on opening night I'm actually very curious about how much it'll retcon that's something I'm interested in for example, fixing Kylo's mask I love that they've confirmed that already that's just funny they made a big deal about breaking it but okay just break it how long have I been silent how long have I been silent by the way because I just realized my mic was plugged in shame that Jay has been quiet for so long I haven't heard you for like 11 hours don't hear his voice in the wind oh no see I think I just heard it then the baby in the back makes me laugh uncontrollably for some reason I didn't know I still had it in me to laugh at anything that wasn't dark or edgy babies are adorable and they provide the the unknowancedness that's a word by the way unknowinstanced if you don't believe me that's a word you're about another Scottish person you should get on is Count Dankula the legendary shit poster I mean I'm on board literally on board with any guests so Ray is the quintessential affluent white cunt who goes to college for five worthless sociology degrees then works to destroy her nation with immigration alright then I would have been happy to see Finn die drinker is inarguably the most based guest on the show I mean I had fun with him and I hope to have him back with drinks again I think he's a nice guy he seems like a nice man we're four hours on the extended second part you realize most podcasts go for between one and two hours that's the like podcast for the week at least four hours we've crossed with four hours and two minutes what if there has to be a part three imagine that well then damn it we're gonna do a part three absolutely have you seen Sarah Z's bad media criticism yes we responded to it in EFAP I wanna say 20 it was starring Jay Longbone who's another guest that we're gonna have to have back but unfortunately we can't just have everybody every episode sometimes we get six people and it's such a chaos that happens studio exact hold on we can't kill both Luke and Leia Carrie Fisher hold my cocaine what if it was Akbar piloting the ship when Leia or something was shown to somehow break something or an engine that would also allow the stupid jump scene you don't need hold-o whatever you do you do not need hold-o alright that's my take you just don't need it I like that they put her in though cause if it wasn't her then what did you say you cut off it I like that it was her that they gave her imagine them giving her dialogue to someone else and then they'd have to imagine how poor Akbar would have been with that dialogue oh you saying that it's good that it's here because god damn it it would have been awful to listen to any of our beloved characters deliver the shit that she delivers yes but if we're suggesting script fixes then I assume we would also be fixing the dialogue hmm yeah hmm Mola gives countless rational arguments why do we need hold-o whamms, clear throat and throw up their arms because Nazis I don't remember them saying that in response but if you need women to defeat Nazis I'm confused by the circumstances of that environment but sure hold-o the parameters that you've established are interesting hold-o more like hold-don't also wolf they called the AT-AT an AT-AT in Rogue One to how the alien with the big mouth calls it that that will really upset wolf wolf was very upset when the trailer for Jedi Order they say an AT-AT and I had to be the one to tell him that that's actually done by a lot of people it's not uncommon I call it an AT-AT myself but a lot of people call it an AT-AT he thought it was like AT-ST then AT-ST AT-ST yeah in the immortal words in the immortal words of Rich Evans AT-ST AT-ST AT-ST it's fine to call the AT-AT the AT-AT even if you don't call the AT-ST the AT-ST two different things this is the thing I don't necessarily have a problem with calling it AT-AT but I personally prefer AT-AT but I know wolf will be very upset by that if he ever listens to this he will PM but it was me and Rex saying you were a bad an AT-AT destroyed everything I hope you're happy Chad should join the fandom menace I imagine that we're all tertiary slash honorary members of the fandom menace Ray vs. Captain Marvel is like an unmovable object and an unstoppable force clashing together it's impossible to tell what would happen both are movable objects and Captain Marvel would win though I'm sorry I know Ray's OP but she's not as OP as Captain Marvel like right or am I crazy yeah but she has plot protection yes I I agree with you it would be interesting to see what happens I agree also Mola do you agree with game theory that Infinity War Thanos is worthy of Thor's hammer it depends on how you define worthiness because a lot of people define it as like honest intentions and that can be evil you could be evil and you have honest intentions and you now like you have no intention of being dishonest whatsoever in any way shape or form but it's complicated it depends on how you define worthy of Thor's hammer because some villains are completely unaware of how they are villainous so it's complicated but interesting nonetheless I like to talk about that sort of thing I think Ryan was jealous of Star Wars and like a good SJW destroyed it rather than creating original content yeah so he thinks he was saving slash changing it for the better and I would say that he's mistakenly destroyed it so I could believe that he thinks he was doing it a good rather than a bad but if you were to do it a bad you wouldn't do much dissimilar from what he did so alright I'm sorry I'm gonna have to do it now I'm gonna die it's been fun being on I'm gonna leave you're gonna die you're gonna die by the length brats jay is defeatable oh yeah yeah come on Jay what's up what's got you down bro I have to sleep or I'm gonna sleep against whatever happens I'm gonna sleep within the next half hour I may as well do it on my own terms that's alright man it's been fun it has been fun we've had a gay old time yeah thanks for hanging out for a few bits and bobs you know just popping in for a few minutes thank you for that hope you had fun Jay she's been like 5 minutes it's not a subject or two enjoy your milk of course she's not this good night can I flatter her will wield Mjolnir could you imagine I'm right proven by Mjolnir that some guys like that already means you think you're right that doesn't mean that you are right it just means you're honestly stupid so Luke about that cow thing I'm not 100% sure what that's reference to other than how we should be arrested for abuse the space cow has Stockholm syndrome from Luke yeah I agree with that you separate the artists from their art yes I don't think I don't apply that ever though I will absolutely accept say for example I said I can't enjoy Captain Marvel because of Brie Larson's comments if someone said more that's completely like subjective that you're taking that on you can't judge the movie from that point of view I'd be like no yeah you're right it is subjective and I am acknowledging that just like how American beauty I really like that film but after what happened with Kevin Spacey that film becomes extremely fucking awkward to watch during the narrative I don't know if you guys seen it I've not seen it no I know of it but I have not seen it he is in a midlife crisis and he gets attracted to a young person and you're like oh wow that's a little bit too real for me right now so it can happen but if ever I was to I would want to separate those things out I think that if you judge a piece of art from what you know about the artist it can inform you'd still need references but then if you were to do it completely separated like you're just like I don't like this person therefore I don't like this piece of art then yeah that's on you nothing to do with the art complicated but interesting subject TLJ is unironically proof positive of why women should never have been allowed to vote what Jesus a hold-out toy well now I know what to give to my friend I know it sounds fucked up but I'd be like the only reason what a hold-out toy is to probably set in a flame and they'd be like wow that's violent I'm like no no no just I don't know just seem to be funny it's not like a real person uh ooh can you see wait ooh say can you see by the dawn's early light oh that's a reference the old American national anthem right Star Spangled Banner they should change it so the dawn is mentioned throughout uh oh and by the power oh and the power went out so I'm using my light saber to see right now that's where being a Jedi pays off I could easily fix Star Wars by rewriting episode 9 I mean honestly I just think it'd be tough but uh I think yeah I think it's possible I just think it's tough that's all extremely fucking tough and when you tell me oh you know fucking JJ's gonna do it I'm like ha gory will um the last day Bender has several mentors with arcs I did see a lot of people recommending that as an answer to the idea that um well yeah ringing what's your take on this is it possible to have a story where a mentor needs to learn a whole bunch of things while simultaneously being able to impart wisdom to a student of course it's possible yeah I agree that's kind of where we were I don't know I don't know misrepresent critical drinker on that one but it did seem to be that his position was you shouldn't have a mentor that should be learning shit at the same time as he's teaching a student and we all said we're on the opposite end of that and then he eventually said okay fine because obviously yeah you don't necessarily need to be imparting wisdom that's while also being unable to learn I mean I wouldn't be comfortable in saying any character has stopped learning you know what I mean yeah exactly you're constantly learning also yeah bao and don't worry we'll save any memes that come in now we'll save them for the next efeb or at least the next efeb that shows me only the finest of means there he has wonderful it's another it's one where wolf has eaten too much pizza and become a fact he's a fact really love watching efeb you're all so great moley you're awesome well thank you very much for the $99 dollar re-roost I hope that this extended what was it six and a half plus whatever we're at right now which is four and thirteen we need we've nearly beaten the record and I'm pretty sure we will by the time we get through these that's so yeah hope you're having fun with this absolute ridiculous insanitisms Harry Dresden is a fairly reasonable Harry Dresden is a good mix of mentor and hero who is Harry Dresden from the Dresden files I'm not familiar series of contemporary fantasy mystery novels written by American author Jim Butcher was the thing I don't actually think there's probably a bunch of examples of someone who is simultaneously teaching people lessons while going on a journey of self-discovery slash learning of their own right I think that's I like to think anyway that that's something not necessarily uncommon because again I don't think there's a point where a character stops learning there's always always learn and you be like oh so you never like understand fully what's going on in life so not really know if someone could learn the point where they're super old like you have a vampire character like a billion years old and they've learned everything I'd be like maybe then but even then something they may have learned when they were ten years let's say a hundred years old may very well be completely outdated by the time they're aged one thousand six hundred point two you know what I mean yeah yeah yeah yeah something that can happen and part of what makes storytelling so very interesting oh my please compare Luke and Star Wars in the first episode having in mind that the film was meant to be a standalone not part of a trilogy with Ray in episode seven but why that's comparing a character to a piece of plastic flash wood why would you make us do Luke is far more interesting and new hope than Ray could ever be an episode change my mind look at that Fringian rags do not want to change my mind so apparently that's just ultimate truth hmm anyway Luke has Obi-Wan and hardly uses the force at the end he's just a pilot he uses the force because Obi-Wan tells him to and succeeds thanks to Han and Chewie agreed I don't like it when people say it's a Mary Sue moment when he fucking manages to nail the missile shot it's like the only thing Luke does in the entire fucking movie outside of nailing the grappling hook thing like yeah you did that it's like he shot the Thai fighters it's like those Thai fighters wouldn't even meant to stop them Vader even says that he's like they're trying to chase them but we're not really so I just don't I fucking the argument that Luke is much as much of a Mary Sue as Ray is frustrates me but I mention that frustrates everybody Luke was bad in TLJ since the scene thinking of killing Ben he treasoned everything Yoda taught him a Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense never for attack fear is the path to the dark side control control you must learn control are you saying it's bad that he ignored and went back on every single thing he learned what that's ridiculous it's totally okay that he did that regarding the last e-fap here wolf gives Solaris by Isaac Asimov ago fairly short sci-fi novel with quite a dream like haunting atmosphere Mary reading I will copy and paste ready for wolf to be able to read that I'll just send all this stuff to him once sir e-fap is overuse which could still be another 10 million years you know no the mum's gonna cuck him he needs father author I think next Goliath video update my computer tismed and delayed me by a week it'll be with it though it's probably the most elaborate thing I've created and it's only a teaser for even larger things alright any more memes on the way which is why we have to keep showing them otherwise we'll get a backlog so big that we won't actually be able to have a podcast this not just meme which wouldn't be bad on my back so the guy who made the uh the doom video he super chat saying super fun thanks for introducing me to you so yeah apparently that was excellent that was a very very good video very impressive being sarcasmic aren't you yep it was shit I knew it yeah I'm I'm I'm glad you had fun that's the important thing Logan was Logan's story he's old this is true any story with an old shouldn't be told like Gandalf too old to be in Lord the Ring Ian McKellen isn't just gay he's a kid diddler I don't think that's the thing I've ever heard before never heard that old people in the new orphans that's a value judgement is it better to be an old man or an orphan what do you guys take hmm gone fringy morally is it better to be an orphan or an old man I don't see how it's morally wow you're a racist way you believe this rags you believe we're dealing with this I can't believe it I used to believe it I can't no lies lies pretend I didn't hear that from you fringy Jesus Christ kill the past was actually Kylo talking about killing the old yeah that's I think that's what we're supposed to be hello lord longman I wanted you to know what you wait I wanted to know what you thought about Kratos and Boulder from the recent god of war game as characters loved your book rags and wolf your fallout review is fantastic thank you I spent a lot of time writing it learning getting my info together very important so I don't know enough about Norse mythology to know to be able to make a comment about it as an adaptation for Boulder but I loved Kratos and Boulder in the god of war game so I was planning on doing videos on it but if I was to do that I would want to look into all of the arguments for why they're bad because I know that a lot of people don't like what they did with Kratos in god of war 2018 and I think some people were upset with how Boulder was portrayed so I'd want to look into all of it but personally I really liked it I really liked that game I thought it was awesome hmm the old Jedi academy game could have been three films my mom's the kind of person who thinks the sequels are better she thinks the OT is boring and shit but she thinks the prequels and sequels are amazing well well whatever floats your boat right guys whatever floats your boat is it's pretty much the ubiquitous argument for anything so if you're in trouble and your boat is all that keeps you from sinking and something floats it that's a good, an ultimate good yeah, pontoons they're good hey if that floats your boat mm-hmm uh joining late have my money why thank you which is better 2D clone wars or 3D clone wars I can't make a statement on that I'll leave it to chat to argue 2D clone wars or 3D clone wars I cannot say go for it master shad there are too many of them what are we going to do you implying that shad would kill a bunch of younglings how could you they're hack writers but how could you be so thick affirmative action and ethnic nepotism mixed with a hatred for all things sacred and masculine that is an explanation for the sequel films apparently this is a movie with space wizards for children out of 10 that means it's immune from criticism is it too much for us we've got quite a mix between 2D and 3D oh is it too much to ask you guys to leave a list of movies tv shows and books referenced during the podcast on the description or pinned comment probably I find it troubling enough how do you like a novel length yeah it would be complicated to what degree of mentioning if we do a small reference or if we do a full recommendation typically if you hear me or rags or wolf or ringing or whoever else say oh man I loved x you should check out x and do it at your own leisure if you're like man I do trust that guy maybe I will check out x or if you go I don't like the perspective on what media is good I just like listening to them talk all for it if you wanted a list of recommendations that were full and complete from all of us it would take you a million years to get through it so I don't know we all love our media here don't we guys mm-hmm I like media sometimes there you go it's alright I guess someone's super chat to say remind Shad he was muting so that we wouldn't hear his children complaining about the cages that he had created for the lack of feeding he provided to how many super chats do you still have if you're talking about because I hopped in like an hour ago and I'm guessing these are in reference to things that were swept about earlier typically they slow down once enough time has passed so I'm pretty sure we're up to like that had been here for about an hour at this point so no we're a decent amount in how long we have left in case some people decide to run away wait, wait, wait, Shad is in Australia yes and it feels bad man that we didn't have Fringy meet Shad you know that's a bad they need their brothers in arms they need to know that each other exists they can confirm to others that it was Australia they're just both going to act to each other they're both going to lie to us isn't that right Fringy what yeah you cracked the case I see glad you I think Shad did video on the snake fight did he? I've been trying to go through his backlog I don't remember a snake fight one for that and Bay would bait off for that do you see that would rags the carpet be birdie bull which one was this I'd have to let me go through my twitcher I'll find it it's just the one with Shad just chopping the snake's head off that's why watching TLJ was the equivalent of seeing a woman cackling after messing up a guy's relationship with a false accusation because he rejected her what why is that your inference the film made me feel okay about wanting to glass people is that the act of throwing glass at people yes all you know the snakes are made of snakes true I have never the lord of the rings trilogy well maybe you should the lord of the rings trilogy I recommend it this is the best e-fap so far in my opinion I that's like your opinion dude hi Shad great to see you back and congrats the chronicles of everfall yeah he said he's released that's been released in two days from now I believe you're gonna be reading that mr. rags I can't read I was gonna say that's pretty much my response like but he would review it how about that what if it's what if it's terrible oh god that'll be so awkward then we invite them on they debate vigorously and then they become extreme enemies and we're just sitting here sweating the whole time I don't guys I get my wet paws on that one you know fuck it e-fap is over we can't continue this is too negative criticism is dead we always knew it would be you thanks wolf can you get a message to wolf and say he's a fucking piece of shit oh yeah I'll get right on that thanks buddy just out of context wolf's gonna be like what the hell hey by the way by the way mother says you're a fucking piece of shit don't give him a time stamp you'll have to look for the entire thing there's an important part on one of the e-faps it was part one or two I forget but uh he's like was I there for them I forget there's like five words he says one time to you I don't know he said it was really ghost Yoda spends his days going around nuking places that have no books people make fun of always have a book nearby them to be safe from him oh he's like an urban legend to that point then Yoda kills you if you don't have a book imagine if Darth Maul's ghost came instead of Yoda's I would fucking love it it would be so confusing what if he did the deed with the Porgs that that raises a lot of questions uncomfortable questions to say the least many in which we would not want to address on this podcast that's that's my take on that if the X-wing can survive in space it can under water too like I said that logic makes enough sense to me but I could be wrong on that again not not a science don't know the science of how air pressure space pressure versus water pressure and water as a material against something quicks but you know maybe not science gave us smaller science gave us the atom bomb no they didn't pretty sure chemistry gave us that and that's not a science that's a that's a yeah maybe not function underwater because of the engines maybe but you could totally write it so that it works that's kind of the point right he's like you can't do it because it's underwater it's like how do you know that that means the X-wing doesn't work that's up to the writers yeah and you could have just had the X-wing perched somewhere with like dirt on it and grass growing and maybe some bushes you know also we don't know how long it's been underwater again that's up to the writers they could say it's been under there for a day because he moved it there because blah blah blah he had one of his luke moods which he does now apparently so now he's dead that's uh that's why blowfish nash shut it nerd that's in relation to the uh superchats I mean fishing superchats I don't know I'm not 100% sure it's raw raw confuses me something uh why is this guy ripping off er's voice and cadence oh is he talking about this the guy we covered over 10 million years I don't really know see if he copied er I'd have to compare it but I mean you know some people talk similarly than other people do as well I didn't really see an er clone in him but maybe sitting around giving rational arguments about why this film is trash is a virgin move do the chat thing and just say it's bad because it's fucking gay well that's that I mean that that's one strategy does it work typically though that convince people of your argument don't think so why are you guys still talking about TLJ episode 9 is coming out that is true we're only months away from that now guys you excited I I just had to fill my I am more alive right now than I have ever been at any point in my life Carmen Electra question for shad what would be the best medieval weapon for Michael J. Fox Maricast don't count I understand that question but it would be insensitive to Michael J. Fox if we're here on this podcast probably a flail would it though he's not shaking it like aggressively it's only a little bit like a flail trying to kill someone with it he would be maybe a rapier he's like going quick cuts you know like he can't say rapier Rapierre Rabelio Rapelion if the idea was to make something new and disrespect Han Chewie Lair and Luke and Akbar do Star Wars 6 years after respect the law the universe the canon keep the traditions of Jedi lightsabers force rules and philosophy no because then people won't come and see it they gotta advertise it with Luke with Han and then kill them miserably that's how you have to do it you have no choice gotta get in the door gotta get those butts in seats but with new advanced technology amazing new ships advanced droids skin humanoid droids better warp jumps better shields stronger and complex weapons of the dark side no that's not going to get people to come see it you gotta bring in the old characters and ruin them about what Luke did on the island the entire time you know no lactation without insemination hope I didn't give you historic PTSD as a britman lactation without insemination I mean those sea cows could have been hanging out with each other you don't know five stages of grief take time but why people still stuck on the stage of denial when it comes to TLJ being terrible if avengers infinity war and endgame wasn't a thing I'd have lost so much faith in storytelling um give them time you know the stages of grief can last decades pretty sure science proved that too to ask them what stage would you say on a meta scale would you these people denial not up to anger yet no I think we're up to bargaining I think we are because like what you have you cut out a bit I feel like we might be up to bargaining because we're up to the whole well episodes 9 coming out that's going to complete it you know I reckon JJ's you know he's going to be able to or is that still denial I feel like that might be I think that's still denial because marketing they're not offering anything I don't know if this applies because like they I believe these people are sycophantic to the point where they'll never think that these are bad ever well if it was bargaining then they would say something along the lines of well maybe if we're just good fans and we have faith in the series and we trust JJ Abrams then he'll make a good movie for us if only we trust in him in support him that would be bargaining but denial is still like no it's just not a wrong with it in fact it's great it's not terrible not only is it not bad it's the best to run that's super denial I sent a meme video on discord yesterday have fun hopefully we covered it if we didn't send it through the twitters twitters where I get the malls Jay you don't like the Vagine you like the big Venus now I think Jay has always been a fan of both he likes the penis and the Vagine he's a fan of both and then a super child that just says hi rags I was expecting more than that nice you know just pretend rags at high back my amazing rag my amazing rag you are amazing also hi Jay I would like it to be known for the record and this is all this is all being recorded for future in reference that it was I who was declared to be amazing Jay was an afterthought fairly worthy of the most simple and basic greetings true despite making only 13% of the population dot dot dot and there's no additional message after that we can take that in many directions he's probably talking about the fish nuns of the jail jay island 13% of the fish nuns are gay true two e-faps back to back on the same day I see this as an absolute win I mean yeah but like I'm still upset by the fact that the other one won't be public for like a million years and I can't even apparently the last time we got hit with copyright claims I was able to download them before they were hit with it so I could edit out a good one but now I can't even download the one that was been hit so we just have to wait I hate the idea of us having to wait so long that I can't even release the newer ones because otherwise they'd be all out of order and you can't have that life sucks that feel when Moeller showed how duncuk was better than TLJ duncuk I think duncuk is better than TLJ yeah I don't remember when I put that though you should have with a buy and critical drinker on an e-fap discussing Star Wars and fucking millennials listening while I work tomorrow thanks for all your content molly a punk buster no problem comador regarding decloking military advancement exists yeah but it's the funny concept of they run the decloking scan and they find all of the baddies like why weren't you running it though and how does it work that you're immune to scans but you're not immune to scans that are decloking scans that just seems so fucking confusing you know we went over it can we all appreciate the J activated windows yeah that's the character development that's an arc right there some people live their entire lives without ever opening a win oh and this is like a response super chat military advancement does not exist in Star Wars and it seems to go backwards honestly uh it is not immune to decloking scans but it is immune to decloking massives oh you want to see this coming if I were to iron man his point I would ask why these tlj defenders don't just kill themselves because they like the film why would they kill themselves they like the movie yeah ray gather around children today we learn why a good jedi always votes for mass murder and child rapist hillary clinton to be president I mean he spelt rapist r e y p i s t to get past the super chat things I think but what if they were referring to the character ray a child what would that even mean they no no they would also be a child rapist but specifically to ray when she was a child so it works both ways I see if you ray prays a child you're still your child the rapist but you could that's what it's for nearly forgot about shad this be for the swordsman okay so that's 10 for shad as well I'm gonna have to DM him about that everyone's gonna be giving me the paypal accounts today it's gonna be great uh chaff frilless has some pretty fun videos but yeah this is one of his weaker ones I think wolf said that he's enjoy stuff from his channel so yeah I'm sure he's made some good stuff that one like it wasn't the worst thing in the world it's just all of his tlj stuff was just beyond you know again if you want to talk about recovery faps all good uh more money for more alcohol for more e fapping wonderful guys you made a big picture of the gods that sustains us guys you made it big there's an e fap tag on I funny I don't know really if I funny I funny it's like it's like a website for memes and funny pics sounds horrible I hate it here let me go to I funny e fap uh there's some yeah there's some I'm drinking and play steam sale games I love you oh thank you cowman coming soon dating sim with e fap cast that'll be pretty neat we would play it live on e fap gaming it'll be horrible though probably because it's science fiction just turn your brain off you must be fun at parties yeah that's what you must be fun at parties is a really fun one to get when you're trying to like explain how the plot makes no sense explain stuff wow there's a lot of memes funny for me fap yeah I'm gonna check this out oh my god yeah some memes there's a bunch gone wick and look at all my tits look at all my tits Quinton with his many photoshopped oddbeards I wonder if this is the source for the e fap.me ones I don't know it's kind of similar set up the three columns you know interesting if you're curious too electric this super chat is for maulers fan the unofficial fourth member of e fap who's the unofficial fourth member of e fap I can't be anybody I'm not sure who they're referring to exactly Arrival is basically a subpar episode of TNG quite possibly I've not seen the next star trick not so great debate gave me a brain aneurysm but in a good way right in a good way right I'm sure they meant in a good way hmm do you ever played exan exanima the hack and slash diablo game with an emphasis on physics based combat and detailed stats on armor I do not know maulers empire I know you have a lot of e fap movies to edit we won't see them for a while can you just say what they are doom with the rock that will be the next one to come out once I get to e fap tapping it to editing it and then after that I think we said it already in a past e fap but it's the lord of the rings trilogy which I'm very much looking forward to going back to once I come with everything other stuff there so you got those four movies are on the way there's one e fap mini I haven't edited yet where me wolf and bring you're looking at the sonic trailer that's gonna be late but it'll still be funny so and then beyond that who knows who knows mauler a huge reason why the ot is better than the sequel trilogy is that the ot just is not trying to be anything else and it just flows so much better just a copy of a new hope awful not so great debate guy is hilarious I agree with those statements Jesus maul you went live before I went to sleep and you're still here mad lads also hi rags hi hey hey if you go back to the not so great debate video his name shows up after the first few minutes or so wolf had his discord name on screen oh yeah we were just saying we couldn't remember the name it was like a secret or anything mauler we know you and wolf don't like TLJ so I can safely assume you'll be buying it when you're both 60 yes absolutely though there is so there is reason for me to buy it on blu-ray for example and that would be the special features to find out if there's like interesting elements to do with deleted scenes or commentaries or documentary style like production things they can give me information when reviewing it though it's not like there's no reason we'd ever buy it but the guy's reasoning was like why wouldn't you buy a star wars buy a star when we've like thoroughly explained that we hate it efap 40 on bit shoot till cleared I don't even I can't even do that it's currently out of my hands I have to wait for it to be cleared by YouTube the not so great debate guy's name is death Incarn shows up briefly at the beginning of the video there you go seven hours to watch a ten minute video new efap record we break those records every single episode records were mint to the broken yes I'm a love themes yet didn't understand TLJ at first I mean I got the overt sense from it with Yoda saying the Tisms but it was really dumb because so many of the characters do not follow those Tisms or they break said Tism but my themes gonna watch later have a good stream guys yeah I feel bad about comments like that because they're gonna find that it's been it's been removed under the things of Warner Brothers it's gonna be so funny for the guy who has to review it they'll be like okay what automatically got detected oh it's a it's a video of the Hobbit apparently the Hobbit got claimed I saw the detail thing and it's gonna be this called far far away TLJ Defenders versus and then all these pictures that are super imposed on top of the characters from the Hobbit they'll be like what the fuck is this like do you really want to try and claim the buddy from this I mean they still would but you know there's no way it wouldn't fall into fair use at the risk of being hated on I had an argument on John Wick being overrated and stupid and my friend said it's an ass assassin guild movie don't look for logic I'm honestly wondering if no movie premise can't be defended this way I think the first one makes a lot of sense I think the first one is grounded and you could be like there's no way an assassin could be that good I'd be like I don't know I think that everything we see in the movie from John Wick is relatively like a normal person could achieve that if they would suspend their life as an assassin and I'm pretty sure Fringy and Rags actually both very much like the movies what are your takes how realistic do you think John Wick one to two to three is go ahead yeah you go ahead because I want to get a bottle of water real quick alright no worries I mean John Wick one is the best one I'd say and probably is the most grounded because there are never points where you'd think like I nah nah you know come on like it usually is um it feels like it's something that is attainable it's something that somebody could do now in John Wick 3 they kind of pushed that to the extreme I still really enjoy all of them but yes it's considerably less realistic now than I think it was when it started partly because I think there's a pressure to up the ante and to get more and more impressive with the stunts and the fights and they're really impressive but it is at the expense of what would it be well tenuency well believability yeah yeah something like that still really good movies though oh yeah though I think there was a difference of opinion on this of these three people no yeah probably I imagine potentially all three of us stand in a different position I don't know if it's been made clear previously but I adore the first one and I hate the second one and I haven't seen the third one while you two I think both like a lot the first and second and potentially the third one I like all of them but one's the best so I think the first one's the best definitely the most grounded but I have seen the third one and I like the second and I like the third very much but they do seem a little more a little less realistic as time goes on oh yeah I mean like right at the end of John Wick 3 I was like uh-uh no way without any pointless another eFap when I wake up for work a welcome surprise thanks for the content all you guys no problemo what are you all drinking tonight I believe drinker was drinking Jack and Coke I was drinking rum and coke Jay was drinking I don't listen to Jay nobody listens to Jay so Jay was drinking that is the answer Vulture was a cool character but the plot was so stupid I don't agree what is wrong with the plot in Homecoming yeah they said this version of MJ is not Mary Jane she might be Melissa Johnson for all we know oh you mean the creator said she's not Mary Jane her name is Michelle she's not Mary Jane that's interesting that'll be a great argument for the adaptation comments then it's not Mary Jane well I mean it's effectively because MJ I know and I can understand why they're upset still yeah uh she's an uh gleam black should stop stealing red head roles I know it's been pointed out that that's a weird pattern but I mean can you really steal the role from someone who has no soul exactly Homecoming was stupid as hell because they want you to buy the blue collar workers can reverse engineer alien tech and not gain unwanted attention it happened over years and they stay under the radar that's their careers that they salvage uh to resell on a market they prepped for it and the alien tech is just another could you guys believe that if aliens visited that had rifles that fire shit oh yeah I think I think you'd be severely underestimating the capabilities of people when they got nothing else to do years and their whole thing salvage is like yeah I can believe that they can do something over a decent amount of time oh man I can definitely believe it absolutely the Chitauri is sufficiently humanoid enough that I gotta they have literal triggers on their weapons you know Scarlett Johansson uses one in Avengers to shoot one of them so they're that close to our weapons like yeah absolutely I could believe they could reverse engineer that when given that much time like for it's not this is not Aquaman where the guy reverse engineers it over a fucking night and creates a completely different piece of technology uh Aquaman blue collar workers aren't all dumb oh I guess that was a response to that guy why are you guys talking about spider-bad with spider-bad's coming out that's that's a fact yeah see now we're caught up these are the super chats that I remember seeing when I got here so we still got another hour and an hour chats so if I make an adaptation of Lord the Rings and it was not like the books but it's a good movie is that okay I mean it was a good movie right like spider-man yes but it would be a bad adaptation we've actually covered this all the way back when Jay actually first guested the idea of being a good a piece of content versus a good adaptation they're two different things for example Hill House I adore that show but the people who love the book hate that show because it has fuck all to do with the book and yet it has its name and it steals a couple of the character names it's like yeah I completely sympathize with the people who wanted to see an adaptation of the book and it's a poor adaptation it's a downright terrible adaptation but it's a great piece of fucking content it's just obviously the maker didn't care for the book decided to make his own thing or steal the name he could be like isn't that bad I'd be like this fucking disrespectful to the source content for sure but I mean I don't know what else do you want me to say about that it's like yeah there's difference between an adaptation and the content as its own thing complicated the villain is great good hero movie has to have a good villain I was a bit annoyed at Aunt May okay what why though yeah why molly your blood pressure also that was really scary don't do that again I think I got bad at one point about the uh was it the FBI comment critical some related to something related to homecoming I remember it I just can't remember the specifics what I remember is drinker said that the police never get involved with the the black market dealings with the the tech and I was like the big piece of conflict between spider-man and Iron Man is the whole precedent of it is Iron Man saying he not only listened to spider-man he got in contact with the FBI and set up the thing for a thing in spider-man ruined it so like not only are the lower level people getting involved spider-man doesn't need to but spider-man's involvement fucks up their approach of this lower level issue that Iron Man was trying to tell him to stay away from what I mean the film isn't better written than most people give it credit for um molly don't apologize it's so hot when you're drunk and angry okay stop talking about spider-man homecoming spider-man is coming out you massives that's a fair point what's the opinion on into the spider-verse I thought it was awesome awesome yeah fantastic I get around to seeing it eventually but I just haven't I haven't seen it yet I've not hit a single bad thing about it as well not everybody wants it and for good reason it's it's top tier like it's really great not not only is a great great film in general a super innovative animation style too homecoming is better than dudes where's my car yeah probably I was in the movie fucking ages Ned almost blew himself up with the alien core you can't tell me blue collar workers wouldn't have done the same why you don't know maybe they did Ned didn't know that it was gonna blow himself up with it it was a reaction to going through what was it like an x-ray scanner thing right it's when it gets applied to radiation he didn't know that you could absolutely assume the blue collar dudes would test it the technology that they have they're not average blue collar workers the scientists duty has not the blue collar workers are idiots I'm just this is the thing stop assuming they're really stupid the clearly vulture is not stupid Ned sorry I feel like I'm behind on the curve on this but I wanted to ask did you guys ever check out the jack saying Eric taxon stream on e-fap 22 I only saw bits of it and I thought it was really embarrassing and that it would really make for bad content for us to cover on e-fap but yeah they did respond to it and you know I recommend people go check it out to see what their counter arguments are because they actually make arguments that my point was going to be that if you wanted a reason to see how fucking lame and and poorly constructed their arguments are go and watch their response to our e-fap is that the one where they ask for it where Jack saint begs for super chats no that's a different stream but that's just as funny as someone who generally likes high tops videos is one on homecoming is pretty bad in terms of presentation he had this this is my opinion twice in the vid while as other vids didn't it's really condescending like I said we'll cover it we'll do a fucking we'll probably do an e-fap all about homecoming because this is clearly a contentious topic that keeps getting brought up because for some reason everyone thinks fucking terrible the ROG will have to address that at some point and that's a good video to go with because a lot of people think it's it addresses the problems of homecoming no Tony is not objectively the villain in the comic book Civil War in fact Cap admits that he might be on the wrong side at the end all I can tell you is what I got from the comic guy describing it he says well he told me that apparently during the comic series of Civil War that the idea is that they're on the hero registration that's the story so you give up is the hero registration the idea is that you become sort of you become a member of SHIELD and you have to reveal your identity does Tony or does Tony not give up Spider-Man's name well Spider-Man does it himself because he like Spider-Man unmasks himself to be like alright guys let's do the right thing and then they have to fight which results in a casualty which prompts Spider-Man now this is a part where Tony really loses his mind Spider-Man's like alright no more of this and they fight like he tries to blow him up when he was describing the story to me I was like Tony's the bad guy and he was like yeah and I was like that's not absolutely the bad guy he locks up heroes in the negative zone it's like and he starts recruiting villains to his side to help out like Venom and stuff I'm pretty sure as like guys I don't know what to say he's clearly in the wrong on this one it's not anywhere near as arguable as the Sikobi records is why I really like Civil War I think that there's an ongoing conversation between their two perspectives and ending is less to do with that more to do with obviously their personal struggles I fucking love Civil War that's why there you go still going praise the long man all yes we're still going 655 am in Britania I hated homecoming because they never explained how he became Spider-Man and who is the uncle Ben so they don't explain how he becomes Spider-Man because who the fuck needs to know why how he got bitten by spider he just tells Ned he got bit by spider the idea is that we don't need to spend several scenes like we already have an amazing Spider-Man and Spider-Man Raimi who show he gets bitten by spider it's not relevant they want to tell their story he got bit by spider it was radioactive we done and then he says ooh can I get bit by it too and he says it's dead Ned I killed it or something like that so all you need to know and then as for uncle Ben if you remember he says why don't you tell your aunt about being Spider-Man he says I can't but put this on it right now you know what she's been through and I thought it was a very tasteful way of trying to tell the audience yes uncle Ben is a thing in this one too but we're not going to draw attention to it because it's a story that's well-treaded and we want to move on with our own story make sense to me I think it was handled brilliantly I was actually impressed I was like oh my gosh I think that's a reference to uncle Ben they didn't even make a huge deal out of it to get that emotional re-pass to be like look uncle Ben he's a nice person he died he does sad about that they could have done it they didn't they went their own direction hope you save the super chats when you reset the stream yes we've been I'm now on to EFAP 41 super chats we're getting there folks to be clear do you guys think that the pros ultimately outweigh the cons in Avengers Age of Ultron no not that long shot Age of Ultron is a fucking disaster I enjoy it but holy fuck very little in the Civil War comic Tony makes a subservient clone of Thor who ends up killing a fellow hero Goliath and Tony just brushes it off by saying it's how a cop would have acted screw the comic what it's funny to read after the one that said Tony is not the bad guy EFAP 40 through 47 how to redeem a broken last thorderman civil snake pole with a sword that is a lot of references in one thing right they're making Justice League part 2 but it will not follow the continuity of Justice League part 1 or BVS I've heard that about Suicide Squad I didn't know they were doing that for Justice League though so it's not a cinematic universe anymore no winter soldier is based because it's red-pilled on neocons I didn't put there enough millenials see us as any over 30 is angry old men maybe to be a millennial it's very broad could you be a 30 year old and a millennial at the same time so a millennial is the phase used to describe a person who reached adulthood in the early 21st century and covers the generation of people born between 1980 and 2000 yes you could be a 30 year old millennial and you could be a 38 year old millennial EFAP episode 40 got copyright strike by Werner yeah again anyone who's listening to this I'm very sorry but you cannot watch EFAP 40 for a while until it gets released and I can't even release an edited version because they snapped it before I could do anything about it so again you'll be able to see this one there's nothing like a fucking copyright on this one and this will be accessible from the mohler channel I don't really want to upload it on mohler before the other one because then it's just going to be out of order which is really fucking lame we'll have to see what I'm going to do about that but yeah this one's watchable the previous one isn't and that's a shame because it was a lot of fun but it'll be watchable eventually because there's no way they'll be able to maintain that copyright claim next time Dr. Shad it will take more than children to save you I imagine that's a reference to Iron Man 2 had the governor talking about taking Tony suits away because they were more advanced than anything that had Vulture's plan to stay under the radar wouldn't even last a week the government would pull their resources on them they're under the radar though, they haven't been found Iron Man is extremely public Vulture's whole thing is that they wouldn't find him and besides he only starts years after Avengers so in terms of timeline that still fits in the idea that he hasn't been found post Iron Man 2 because he wouldn't have started post Iron Man, he only started post Iron Man 2 anyway it's planned to stay under the radar wouldn't even last a week that's not, I don't see why you think that's true who's plan? the person said that Vulture's plan to stay under the radar wouldn't even last a week the government would put all their resources on them why? what do you mean? the whole thing about Vulture in the film is that he only does jobs that won't attract any attention only at the end of the film that he does something that's very dangerous but it doesn't pay off, when it would have if not for Spider-Man hot take being fat isn't commendable or acceptable and Thor was at his best when he inspired millions of guys around the world to work out and be healthy sure it's clearly not presented as a good thing that he's an ineffectual no I don't think so either Shad, meticulations are my spirit animal I'm sure you would be happy to hear that people who know history I believe these corporations are actively emasculating the population to stifle descent ok Alex Jones elsewhere corporations actively topple governments in foreign countries to enslave people alright then no comment guys really? I thought you would like massive corporations controlling things to stop descent that's a bad but I do think that the point of a lot of people on the left especially they're very dismissive in general and I think that calling people like Alex Jones and stuff you're just a conspiracy theorist you're just peddling conspiracies that's one of their ways that they use to dismiss people I don't have to actually really talk about any actual issues next one says this guy sounds like Down's rags I don't know who they're referring to when they say that maybe it was Jay maybe it was Trinka maybe it was Shad, who knows a YouTuber named Makab storytelling thinks the departed is objectively bad, eFap him so the argument I've heard about the departed is that it stole its story from somewhere else which is a fair reason to say that it's not as good as people think it is but yeah, I'd be interested to hear the argument maybe he's right, who knows I do like the departed a lot though what do you guys think of Event Horizon have either of you seen Event Horizon I've heard of it I haven't seen it I very much liked it, it's a crazy film didn't pull W.I. Sanderson direct yes, he did that doesn't mean it's terrible same Neil and Laurence Fishburne in it yeah, and Jason Isaacs is in it as well it's a cray film I really like it I think it's a great horror film definitely lets you mind wander for what the fuck is going on I like it and what's cool is that part of it inspired pieces of amnesia which is my favorite game there you go Maul is going to be sober by the time this stream is finished I'm pretty much sober at this point I haven't drank now for the past few hours and back to feeling normalisms I think it's about time two strong females in the MCU learn to shut the fuck up they're not going to Captain Marvel is going to lead the MCU it's going to be amazing amazeballs Civil War it was a damn civil punch on whoa yeah, they punched each other in a warring environment guys and dolls parody rags the dog, it's just another day with rags oh rags the dog it's just a day with rags the dog that's how that goes if dawn touching a map is battery then a shake it is on my way to work and saw a dude just smash into a Kia soul with his big truck I got out and helped, the jerk cost me about $30 of work and I gave the woman who was hit my favorite coat good just ignore people in trouble if I've learned anything from Captain Marvel she'll accuse you of assault because you put a jacket on her did didn't homecoming start with the tisaming of the MCU timeline? so homecoming fucked up their position in the timeline they said they were five years what was it, they're five years after they said eight years later from the avengers yeah they're not well the question was asked did they fuck up or did the russos fuck up and the russos said well I guess that's up to the view it's like if you look at it I'm pretty sure the russos established their timeline before homecoming did they said for the last four years so yeah they line up I guess that well that's the thing right because in civil war vision says in the eight years since Tony Stark announced himself as Iron Man so 2016 is when that is but I've also heard people say avengers takes place in 2009 that's what I've heard some people say I'd have to check but what I remember when looking into it was the homecoming fucked up on that but it might be one of the all the other civil war was good minus the Spidey stuff I love the Spidey stuff in civil war so I will fight you home from sys is eight EFAP continues yes that last super chat from 007 was wrong that's all that was the guy who said civil war was good minus the Spidey stuff so I like how this in-fighting in the super chats it's funny have you ever seen the 1981 film Excalibur and if so what are your thoughts on it I have but it's been ages since I've seen it other one with the oh no I have not seen that was it good do you remember being good I do I remember really liking it I can't remember much about it though but because it's been ages since I've seen it but it's an old off obviously our 3 in movie kind of dark but then again the legend itself is kind of dark I read the ones in future king as well so there you go I would like to actually see it again because it has been a while stories like these make me glad I got out of retail so that tells you where we are that was what we were telling to retail stories we get there shout out to my favorite artist the Shadman and people often ask us to get him as a guest Shadavisti and the Shadman very different people I wish I could tell you guys my story from Target this is the thing when you work in retail you get like two stories per day so it's an infinite amount to hear and they're all horrible never worked in retail before but I cannot imagine acting like this how do people think it's acceptable to make these wild demands of service providers your parents have failed you that's part of the problem if they were to work on the other end they would very quickly realize how unreasonable they're becoming or being and that's why I think that everyone should experience it because it's seriously humbling and it'll make you much more aware of how things work in retail let's just put it that way I am one of the most patient people when it comes to retail shit just because of what I've been behind the till so I'm just like yeah you guys do what you have to do I'll wait and they appreciate it believe me they appreciate it Braggs I heard you grabbed a suspicious amount of women by the map how dare you I did I took them on a trip around the world doesn't even deny it the racializer guys Mola watched all your videos on TLJ Braggs you're the man you beautiful doggo and when you're gonna dig non-jtech TV again oh that's the name I haven't heard in a while hmm I guess that's your answer well I mean I don't know I don't know who he's been up to I'd have to go to a show I seriously forget about these people they're just such idiot losers I just don't even think about them after this I can take a look and see what he's been up to who knows who knows we could do something a little old school anomaly Inc said so far from home as well it's objectively not great does that mean it's bad does that mean it's good yeah what's up not great yes maybe have some money thank you what is this continuous comments about liking something subjectively and have another opinion objectively the logic here I'm assuming that's best it's poor in construction emotional level jay thanks for the gadel black video featuring more I'm sure he would appreciate ringy you might think people should be able to agree that minority report is a bad idea and more you might think people shouldn't throw acid but you must realize that pathos driven people are a large group see the thing about like the minority report thing is really I don't think there's a valid argument for it because it's like what if you're wrong I think that person is just beaming but yeah yeah I know but there probably are people who look at my that's a good idea you guys should watch the galaxies edge review by the internet it's so cringe and I think you guys have a good laugh at how much the host isn't a star wars fan we could do new lion king movie coming out anyone thinks symbol will be like Danny and kill the entire lion pride after defeating scar we can only hope I hope they do it I hope someone animates the skittles conversation you never know with e-fap you never know this absolutely has been my favorite e-fap you can fucking I'm just trying to get to the end we're nearly there I'm actually like partially excited because I'm going to die soon skittles are better I paid money for this value it more there you go rags you got a supporter it changed more you can do the spider-man origin in the movie it literally would only take one minute it is bad storytelling relying on meta knowledge what do you mean they say you got bit by a spider that was radioactive that's it what more do you need you could be like well they could have said what spider in which place like you don't need to know those things I don't think it's relying on meta knowledge at that point yeah but spider-man takes place in New York City and they don't explain they don't tell us anything about New York City what kind of a place is this can you believe they're relying on meta knowledge if someone said well they never say the words uncle bans you're relying on meta knowledge functions whether or not you know the word uncle Ben or the what that is if you don't know anything about it then you know that they went through something and there's no father figure in his life you can infer you don't absolutely I agree that you have no idea what's actually going on there but it's more of an appeasement line for those who are looking for that which is why I think it's clever it works both for the people who are just watching a movie and for those who are like hey I came here for spider-man's uncle Ben spider-byte story where's my where's my slice of cake those pieces of dialogue are like oh we're not doing that but we recognize that you exist and we're doing something else okay point you don't need to have the whole he's in he's taking photos we'll look at his spiders we'll bury jade it's like hey take photos to be a sabre movie you don't need to do the same thing I jab it oh and someone donated two dollars for Fringy there you go I'll make a note awesome here's five bucks for Fringy a seven in total why are you reading this spider-man is coming out I know e-fapping for eight hours how is your e-fapping not on fire who said it wasn't last stream was blocked by Warner Brothers that's the thing it's always on fire the last stream has been blocked and I've challenged it we'll have to wait I'm afraid and consider it human right sure what's Abos Abos I need to sleep now this one's for the doggo love your rag in a very homo way also hi again jay night guys fun day I will add five on to for rags here's some money don't give any to jay okay here's some money for our badger he gets paid way more than us anyway jay do a comprehensive analysis of hearthstone power cave he might actually after the latest video great to catch you live I found you guys a few weeks back and I'm going through the back catalog I look forward to hearing you read this around Christmas well I hope it was as fun for you as it was for us Australia is Atlantis but fake ha ha ha rags you eating chocolate don't do it I'm not here's some money for jay fuck you jay here's christ game of thrones season 8 made my anus bleed help there's not much we can do for you see a local doctor you still going to cover that brown table vid rags yes he is rags it was the most surreal thing I was watching youtube and walking around my house when I noticed that everyone else was two and not only that but we were all watching a different rags video kids too no way what is it more rags what is the order of creation feel content script record then video etc yeah of well we don't record and then do the script maybe so if I was to be a dick I'll be like how else could we order that but if I'm going to be as best intentioned as possible so I have an idea I write out notes and then I turn all the notes into a script then I read the script and record it edit it all into a video do multiple read drafts to make sure I get everything I want in there and then roof and print what is your process rags I don't really have a process um I will say that I don't generally do scripts like I might do a paragraph maybe but that's pretty uncommon if I want to do something that's really structured like maybe like the the fallout review I did for the most part script that but when I read through I add libelot as well but it's mostly just why don't forget like certain points in it like game mechanics and things of that nature or I don't forget examples that I have footage of what about you Fringy what about your newest video that you're making uh oh what do you mean the one that doesn't exist the one that you showed us and you promised to release to your beloved fans now that's I feel that's a lie uh oh we can't lie nope I don't know I mean the process starts with the script doesn't it first and foremost I mean if there's a script it'll typically start with one well that's the most important part like all the visuals and the editing is all all sort of in service of something that's not a piece of shit script that's my view anyway I still haven't got trout but I did get the new SS Janssen from the new Diamondpacks please send refund for my hit and run donation looking forward to hearing this in four hours 433 GMT ooh la la for my hit and run donation I have no idea what that's a reference to I'm sorry no he's he's swooping in and he's giving us money and he's heading out for the casting okay hang out with Dankular and become a Chad there you go J my biggest problem with Spider-Man was you wouldn't understand it unless you watch all the other MCU movies Stark, Cap, etc movies should stand alone I disagree the MCU doesn't have to have movies that stand alone because the whole premise is you're watching essentially a TV show of movies but homecoming still absolutely as followable if you haven't seen the other movies what do you guys think yeah absolutely it's serialized it's um I can't it'd be like saying man you know season breaking I shouldn't have needed to watch seasons one through three to understand season four yeah and then I would question also if you were to say a film should stand on its own it's like should all so return of the king does that stand on its own pretty confusing to watch I guess it does but like yeah I would imagine I'd be like it's more confusing to watch return of the king out of sequence than it is to watch homecoming out of sequence IMO yeah I'd say sorry PS problem with Civil War Zemo's plan is over complicated where he needs psychic powers to guess people's reactions that's only if you assume that what happens in the movie was what he definitively wanted that's a lot of the thing that people say it's like the exact outcome in the film was all that Zemo wanted it's like no Zemo could have had a lot of different things happen the main thing the main interest he had was splintering the Avengers and he was gonna do that by revealing to Iron Man that Cap's best friend was the one who killed his parents how it was discovered was a bonus as far as I can tell from the movie Zemo's initial thing though was just getting proof he didn't necessarily want it specifically that Iron Man and Cap were gonna have a fight to the death at the bottom of that fucking place that's just how it turned out will they ever reuse Thanos or does the MCU consider him permagon I imagine he's permagon I would say this is for rags for that brilliant vegetable farmer's question oh you're up to $72 I'll be sending away rags damn we need the EFAP are you sure we don't have to wait a whole week to do what did you say you coyote we don't have to wait a whole week to do another EFAP we don't no I just I feel awkward about the whole releasing them awkwardly I'm hoping that we get that thing passed through very day I am having an unpositive day my dudes I hope you boys enjoyed the dawn's downfall because I was asleep when you watched it feels bad man you won't be able to see our reaction to it for a little bit of time but it'll be there eventually once that video gets released vegetable farms, genocide, small mammals and ground nesting birds by the thousands just so you can eat a carrot sauce, I'm a pest control technician that works with several farms, gg well played I don't know if that's true or not guessing you guys don't eat hmm well this is a little bit out of my area of expertise I don't know if it's a meme or if it's like a bit of harsh reality being spread I have if TLJ never happened would we have people defending game of thrones like they do TLJ would that be the thing that breaks writing yeah I think so if TLJ never happened game of thrones would have been the big wake up call probably but TLJ already happened so game of thrones I think people were more ready to be like yeah this is just fucking terrible what if Chad Hulk comes out when professor is intellectually exhausted would that be a good compromise also best place to tickle e-fappers still present best place to tickle e-fappers still present I'm not sure what that means but what I would have wanted is that the personality is he's a very smart guy but he's quick to anger I suppose is the best compromise you could have between banner and Hulk but again that's not necessarily what I want anyway I want to see them I want to see the duality I want to see them fight each other and talk to each other and figure out their problems instead of just skipping all of it and being like oh it's just big banner wrong banner now I just got here what did I miss you've missed 5 hours and 19 minutes 6 hours and 30 minutes of cream some stuff I've had objectivity talks on reddit some get it but it's become clear to me that those who say you can't declare elements of art objectively bad or either fools or delusional which upsets me as somewhat modest person it's a complicated discussion and I said I remember saying to Jack long before we covered his video that it's gonna be an ongoing discussion that will happen well before I was alive and well after I'm dead and he saw that as evidence of how it's a faulty notion the fact people will discuss it well after I'm gone I was just like people will be discussing whether or not the earth is flat well I'm after I'm gone too they will always exist a lot of people out there who are funky are you human I saw this late morning and it's still going no I'm not human the next one says hi rags hello you guys are still here is this a 24 hour stream nice no actually but this is going to end eventually 40 congrats on your fallout 76 video keep it up 40 40 maybe 40 here oh yeah maybe yeah yeah yeah I am also in Australia oh there you go meme repository apparently from a fake place that's cool on the subjectivity crowd I remember Soph year in college Ivy campus supposed to be smart starting with friends about film and one chick kept dismissing everyone's criticisms I probed her and eventually asked if she believed standards shouldn't exist he probed her oh my god on college campus I probed her and eventually asked if she believed standards just shouldn't exist and she actually said yes that's when I realized women shouldn't be allowed to vote man this is like the fourth time this is same dude as an Australian I can confirm that Australia does not exist the script writers were terrible who thought emu walls would ever be believable yeah I know it's dumb but what can you do some writers think that it is believable not anybody rational brain you know rags has given me crippling depression for not saying hi back to me I think I've lost faith in humanity also how can I not say hi back to you there was one guy you didn't say hi back to you oh goodness well hello I didn't mean to not say hello I must have just blanked out for some weird reason my name is ashtam ashtam hello ashtam hello ashtam bring you say hello ashtam what the fuck what oh my god he's gonna be so upset hello efap keep me company while studying also hi rags hello this efap is so long I made another meme video during part one sent you to on twitter it has the dawn by the way make more super chat folks get to 12 hours I know this we're near the end this is actually a leaf hey man we'll be able to unlock efap 40 unblock efap 40 sorry and yeah as soon as this possible youtube is a bit of a dick like that I wish it wasn't held hostage I can't even access it that's the really sad part because someone suggested in a p.m. I think it was southpaw actually that you can cut out the offensive quote-unquote part of the part that's a copyright you can't do it that's not an option yet for me all I can do is counter the claim when you do that it's like why are you countering is it because you own the content is it because it's fair use I choose fair use I have to supply a bit of reasoning for why I do then you have to sign and then you just submit and that's all you can do it's terrible because it's literally near seven hours of what we would definitely refer to as content where we're responding to all the things our fans have done as well as commenting on videos and responding to them and it's all really this is a good efap and no it's locked away until YouTube realize what's going on it's like annoying so believe me we want it as free free as fast as you guys do it's just that we have to wait high top won't mind debating he's chill and was debating we'll check out his video and if he wants to come on efap afterwards we would welcome it finally got to watch an efap stream and also homecoming is good need to re-watch it again later after work that's yet to be concluded we'll have some kind of very controversial efap over whether or not homecoming is a decent film great picks you've been dropping in the discord today rags oh you bet my dude always happy to help always happy to share the bounty a ben is the dawn's real he never fully recovered from his injuries and died shortly before the movie and and then the final super chat is fringy why am I so acid i don't know you might need to talk to gp what's your gp a gp is a general practitioner it's a doctor oh does the gp help you with your pp mm-hmm well the gp helps you with all sorts of things including pp he said it yeah no i did he's aware of that which brings us to the end so extreme thanks for all of the generous donations i will sort out getting everybody's specific ones to them i'm just gonna have to collect a lot of emails i suppose and the extreme creativity in both the images and the videos for the memes and obviously we're very regretful that 40 has been nuked for now it'll come back and i hang on to the link you've got right now it'll be in the discord as well in my community but i guess people who ask on twitter i'll try and supply it as well access this shit from the mohler channel unlisted for now it'll all come on mohler hopefully i'll try and contact the youtube support thing we can get it sped up in terms of releasing episode 40 i don't know what they like with that but we'll see and yeah appreciate all of that unfortunately though i don't mean to finish on like a depressing note in any way but it needs to be talked about er that star wars gills sister was missing for a while i think near a week unfortunately she's turned up and she's passed away i have no idea what the specifics are you might be able to find more on twitter but um there is a go fund me setup to support the family dealing with what is i imagine something horrific and again it may seem very strange to put this on efab but the fact is like you know she's a friend to a very certain degree and uh we'd like to obviously talk about it and at least raise some form of awareness so it'll be in the top of the description a link to this and i'll pop it in chat in a second it's an ugly situation it's unfortunate that it happens and obviously our thoughts are with them the family and it's fucking horrible that it's genuinely not not not a good thing that's happened and and yeah it would just uh hope that everyone can sort of i hope you posted the go fund me link in there yeah i see it yeah i'll post it a couple times and like i said it'll be at the top of the description and i'll pop it in my discord announcements as well yeah yeah again like i said i don't i don't mean to try and like down and all it's just it is important to talk about uh these things happen and i just wanted to make sure the information goes out um but other than that is there anything else you guys would like to say about anything in any way uh no um i think i i think that covers about all the bases we've been going for a long time and i think many of us are ready to i guess wrap things up conclude this saga yeah i believe is the longest e fappers ran and again like i said it's just it's a ridiculous thing that isn't an entire adventure and it's just really like i said it's unfortunate all this that should happen in the middle of it but we everything has to be done in a way that's respectful so i'm hoping that um everything sort of gets where it needs to be it's very uh impossibly difficult to say the correct things in situations like this i just apply that star wars girl anna with um any support that she needs and um other than that yeah thank you all for uh every kindness that you provided for this community and hopefully we provided uh what you were looking for back and all these things will be made available as soon as possible that the streams and um everything else but other than that uh have a good morning afternoon slash evening and uh we'll catch you guys on the next e fapp which i'm gonna say is we have no idea when it might be but hopefully soon we'll see you there goodbye everyone goodbye