 What are you underlying anxieties behind cancel? Oh, yeah, I mean, they're manifold But I think that we can identify a few of them, you know It occurs to me that there's quite a lot of anxiety that's Economic driven and I think that you know, Hannah Arendt was the one that said there's nothing for like the promotion of people in junior positions like a purge and so I think that a lot of the kind of cancellation or the urge to to punish or to scapegoat or to rid People from institutions is driven by labor scarcity. Absolutely if we were in a more abundant time where Elite knowledge positions were We're not so scarce that I think that there would be less of a punitive impulse to strip people of their employment but I also think that you know there's quite a lot of anxiety in in in wanting to to feel that your life is Is is is an alliance with certain Important struggles. We no longer have there's a dearth of meaning as we've been saying and so I think that people Attach themselves to kind of manichean views of culture And try to be on the right side of history as we now say it kind of glibly So, you know, it's manifold But you know, it also there's a technological component that can't be ignored We live in a kind of constant panopticon We're all always uploading so many aspects of our personal professional lives and we're all critiquing each other and ourselves Constantly, so nothing actually is done in the dark anymore things that used to they would have been scandalous within your office Now go global if you look at Jeffrey Tuben from the New Yorker Yeah, for example, you know but that would have been something that would have been a legendary in the offices of the New Yorker that happened in the 80s and no one outside of that would ever really know but when he did it I was having some friends over for dinner in Paris and Every single person that came over American or French Mentioned it upon arrival. I mean nothing that you do is not noticed now and so that's anxiety inducing too We're always performing. We're always being critiqued. Well, here's was a special performance But you know, it's all a matter of degree