 Pursuant to chapter 20 of the acts of 2021 and extended again by chapter two of the acts of 2023, this meeting will be conducted by remote means. Members of the public who wish to access the meeting may do so in the following manner by emailing Steve McCarthy at McCarthy s at Amherst a dot gov. That's mccar thys at Amherst m a dot gov. We have been in person attendance of members of the public that we've permitted, but every effort will be made to ensure that the public can adequately access the proceedings in real time by a technological means. In the event that we are unable to do so for reasons of economic hardship and despite best efforts, we will post on the Amherst website and audio or video recording transcript or other comprehensive record proceedings, as soon as possible after the meeting. We'll call the meeting to order at 503 PN. Oh, great. Hallie here, Gaston here, and I'm here. So we have a subcommittee forum easily done. Thank you everybody to the, I guess this is the second meeting of the adult use retail marijuana license subcommittee meeting and Steve sent around the community impact payment summary after his conversation so I don't know, we don't really have an agenda for this meeting. Everyone, Gaston thanks again for that summary of all of the host community agreements that was really helpful. So I don't know if we want Steve to review the kind of the background of the host community agreements and why, if you've noticed they've been dropping precipitously and are not expected to get very much. So if you could just go over that quickly or as much as you need to Steve. Yeah, so I met a conversation with the finance director and forgive me if my voice a little stuffy and sick today but so just kind of going through the host community agreement funds and kind of the history of that. And so the changes kind of kicked in in FY 23. I believe it was passed a little bit after the fiscal year started but it was kind of anticipated. So, you can see the history there. You know if I 19 I think is when it began FY 20, I believe it was pretty much just rise, and then it picked up a little bit but then, if I 23 really drops and I think that's not just because the changes and in the way the HCA is can be administered but also I think there's been a drop in in terms of the dispensaries there's a lot more competition I mean at first Amherst was kind of one of the only ones around with rise and now rises closed there's a lot more competition out there, we're getting into a lot of different towns so I believe all that was collected in 23 was just back payments and pretty much no little to no payments are expected for the 23 Northampton way of the HCA fees completely for FY 23. Oh wow. The HCA on funds on so far. The first appropriate appropriation order was recently the schools on to update their health curriculum install vape detectors in the bathrooms that was 10 to 15,000 as part of one staff ever salary for administering them. And so we have like something like 700,000 sitting the account and local tax revenue is kind of a different point of comparison. The councils committed all that to reparations, but there is 208,000 FY 21134 FY 22 and low hundreds anticipated for 23 to see how the business has declined there. Okay. So, um, well that's quite a change. And, um, yeah, that's what I believe. Yep. So their business must be down also. Yeah, well they may have the HCA fees so I'm getting us kind of there there has been that change where it's you know there's different things you have to write and have to kind of. I can interject. Yes, Dylan just called and he, he doesn't seem to have a link and wonders if I mean I could share mine but I don't know if that would work with that work. I didn't send, send him or Doug panelist in my, because they're not really panelists, but he can use the, he can use the, the link of the town's calendar. Okay, okay. There. Let me, let me get. And we can certainly allow him to speak. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's Amherst license commission website. So if you just go to the front page of the town website, just the homepage and you scroll down. And then you can go to the front page of the town's calendar. And then you can go to the front page of the town's calendar with all the links to different public meetings. Okay. All right. Thank you. I will do that right now. So we just wait for Dylan to come on or. We can just keep going. Anyway. All right. I texted that to him. So he should be on an intimate. All right. Super. Thanks, Gaston. How did you have something? I'll wait to Dylan. Dylan can catch up with the document when. I can jump to, I'm interested in the, in the kind of finale of your. What you, what's the kind of policy assessment that you, that, that surrounds this. Drop in funds and also I'm curious about the ideas about spending all that money. When, you know, it's, I know the town. Budget is tied all over the place. It's striking to see a pot of money like that sitting. I mean, that is all earmarked. So. It does have to be related to the impact of. Of marijuana. And I believe there's been some towns out there that maybe could say, you know, they can use it to fix roads outside of, you know, the area dispensaries if there's higher use from them, but I think it's a, it's challenging to find them. You know, because they really were supposed to offset the cost of dispensaries. It's hard to find. You know, really. You know, explicit costs that can be related to that. Well, yeah, I mean, but that's where, I mean, I think Dylan's kind of started that conversation about trying to think more broadly about. About expenses or creatively I would be interested in getting the feedback from like a public health. Expert. You know what, if, if you could invest. In a public health. Assessing, addressing drug issues in any way, what would you want to spend money on? Because in relation to the usual budget, this kind of money would never exist. So people aren't necessarily thinking about it. Yeah. Yeah. I just wanted to ask just, just, I know, just a couple of minutes later, just finish up in an appointment. I was just talking about the benefits of the tax revenue that it marijuana brings in. So we're at. The funds from the host community agreements. Yeah. So. It was hovering around a little over 200 for the last couple of fiscal years, 21 and 22, but for FY 23, which just finished actually we're in FY 24 now because it goes until July 1st, but it was only about 50,000. That was really only back payments from previous years. Because the changes kind of kicked in for, for FY 23. And, you know, the, the HDA has to, it can only be collected for things, you know, very directly. Related to impacts with those changes. So. Can you just, can we just review really quickly for a second? Because I, you want me to pull that back up? No, no, yeah, that would be great. And also the host community agreement. So those are signed obviously when they first open business, right? Yeah. I think that's correct. And they come in. And then are they renewed every year is that, that's correct. That's what this payment is for. I believe they go for a little longer than a year. I could be. That they might be two, they could be one, but. But they make a payment every time it's renewed. Well, it has a bunch of different provisions in it, but yeah, there is payments kind of as part of that HCA, but there was a change to the law last year. And that's the amount of money that local municipalities can take in from HCA's. You know, going directly to enumerated things related to marijuana, whereas before it would kind of just go into a pot. And we just kind of put in that pot left. 700,000 is from the past. HCA's. Yeah. Very little of it. And so that, that isn't that's not that money that isn't sub, isn't subject to the current law. The current law, right? That's just. Yeah. That's just that's in our, that's in our bank account, but it's in a particular fund, but it's kind of restricted to be spent on that. So we couldn't just put it into the general fund that don't believe. Okay. But I mean, I think our idea is, I didn't, there's been support from the town administration with this is that ideally we could just completely replace the host community agreements because with the licensing. And I think that's, I don't think it's, I don't think it's, I don't think it's, because there's certainly not much to a point of revenue anymore. And I think licensing and cover a lot of the other provisions that they have in them. Flexible with, you know, it's regarding to operations and things like that. I did notice in the Worcester license that they have both the license and the host community agreement. I can't remember where it is, but is that something that they would, they're just. That I don't remember who found that. Yeah. I don't know if there's them. I've, I have heard. I actually spoke. I spoke to a CCC lawyer actually who I just met. Actually a couple of weeks ago. That they anticipate a lot of more changes coming down the bike with HCA's later this year. Okay. I think this would really just be not necessarily something, I mean, I don't think a lot of municipalities have done licensing at all. Really. We'd be one of the first ones was to maybe being the first. Right. Yeah. I think it would be a good idea to be looking to, I think it makes sense. To just kind of completely replace the HCA is just out of simplicity. And just kind of avoid that overhead and allow for the benefits of licensing can have with, you know, suspensions and disciplinary action and the annual review and things like that. On a public basis than the HCA's. Okay. All right. No, I agree. But no, this is good to. Good to know. Thank you very much. Thank you. Okay. So guest on. Oh, sorry, go ahead. I mean, so, I mean, what I'm hearing Steve is that for, for the first time we have kind of a crystal clear mandate to, to move forward and do our best to create a license that, that carries whatever load the HCA was carrying. I think there's, there's support for that. Yeah. Yeah. They'd be on the same cycle as us. Don and draft it by like the end of October so that. It could go out to the dispensaries so that they can license in time for January 1st. I think that would be great. I mean, I believe the HCA, the last round of HCA's was written to expire in next March. I believe. So that would be nice. I mean, just to, so we're not doing something mid-year for. Yeah. Kind of a working timeline. Okay. Well, I, I, I think that. I think that we could use our time very well to simply create a timeline for our process. Great. Okay. I mean, I think that that's, that would be a big accomplishment for today if we can try to identify what we need to do so that we have a better sense when we have these meetings of. What our homework is and what our deadlines are. Okay. I agree. So we want to be done by October general agreement, like first of the month or end of the month. Let's have the goal first of the month. First of the month. I can, can we, can we first. Maybe like make. I say everything that needs to happen. Because we also need to have a realistic timeframe. I think that we should bring in. I think that we should invite the community. I mean, I think that we should invite the license holders, the dispensaries. I mean, not license holders. Right. The permitted dispensaries to come in and tell us what are the issues which I think we should invite. I don't know if we'll, they'll come, but we should invite the community to. Tell us any, any concerns or issues that they can see. Okay. We are in a position to be somewhat, you know, to be able to create all kinds of crazy things, but we might as well be thoughtful about it and, and figure out what, what we want this license to do. Okay. I think that's a good idea. So should we start with the license holders? So we want to see the license holders. We want a community. Community session. I mean, did, but what do, do, do you all agree with that? Does that seem like a good idea to get, try to get some feedback from. The dispensaries when we have a draft so that they can kind of conceptualize what we're trying to do, or is it better to just talk to them. Ahead of time. I would do. I'd lean towards a, just a very, a draft first, but, which I think we can probably put together fairly quickly. What Doug has, what Worcester has. Right. I think we could at least. Start with something like that. Okay. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's going to, um, Yeah. I mean, I, if I said, I'm going to try to take a, make a first draft here. I mean, that's a, I mean, it's, it's probably about five hours of work. Probably to try to get something decent together. I mean, it's, it's going to take some, it's going to take some effort. Um, to pull, to pull things together and, and create a document that. And that we could, um, It's moving in the right direction. I think. Okay. So, um, So would you prefer a guest on to just have the license holders? I mean, the dispensary owners in first. I mean, I think we could probably. I mean. Steve. Is there. Do you have a sense of any. Desires from, from the town manager's office or from, um, the license, you know, inspection services office or anyone else about what. What, if anything, they want the license to do. I'm not in specifics. I mean, in broad terms, I think, you know, and want just, you know, regular, you know, kind of just below the lines of liquor licensing, you know, regular checkups, provisions for, you know, Just just for a functioning licensing system. Yep. And the town council has to enact the legislation also. Isn't that correct? We're not. I believe they would. Yeah. We're not technically allowed to license for it. Quite yet. So, um, So we need to talk to somebody there. I mean, what, when it comes to. Alcohol, we're not the ones who. I mean, what's the equivalent. With alcohol of the kind of license that we're envisioning, substituting. The, the host community agreement. Oh, I mean, the whisper one looked like it was similar to the off premises. Yeah. They're out there. All alcohol off premises license. So we probably take that. And, um, You know, we talked, we talked last time about talking with Dylan. About working on a, in case there's a consumption cap. On premises consumption coming down the road. So, but that's something we'd like to put in, but I think we could start. Just taking a look at our. Off premises. License. Um, with the Worcester license. Could you put the off premises license on the, on the screen, Steve? Uh, what do you mean? Well, I mean. When you say the, the off premises license, Mary, what are you referring to? Um, I mean, I mean, I don't know. I don't know. The, the one that the liquor stores have, isn't that what it is? But what, what is that? What, what information does that license have? The application. Oh, didn't we write, it would be. Um, the guidelines. Yeah, the guidelines. That's what. Yeah. That we just wrote up. Recently. I mean, would that be, I mean, that might not, it's not, doesn't cover anything, but it would be a starting point. I think. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I think the idea is how, what is, what is similar and what is different about the alcohol license? When it comes to the alcohol license, we're very prescribed and what we can do by the. Um, the ABCC, right? Right. I think the idea would just be along the lines of alcohol licensing. I mean, I think that we can certainly make some improvements. I mean, if we were making the alcohol license system from scratch, there might be a lot we would change. But I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, obviously they have to go completely independently through the CCC. Certainly wouldn't, wouldn't want to do a quota systems. I think there's been some horrible externalities with that. Um, but, um, you know, I mean, along those lines, just in terms of the extent of review and disciplinary procedures and things like that. Okay. And I guess I'm just, um, I'm being a little bit obtuse in my head here because I'm trying to figure out what's going on. I mean, I'm just saying that our precedent document for the off premises licenses, the bylaws that, that we drafted. Is that what we're, I mean, because we've had those licenses long before. We have to see what you're saying bylaws. So is there, is there something that's tantamount to. What's the, what are the documents that are like, what we're thinking, seeking to draft. I mean, I think it's. Um, we also have a couple of different, uh, uh, license regulations and the Worcester regulations. Or alcohol regulations. And we do have the draft that Doug had prepared to, but I think this really, really will be a completely de novo document. With the Worcester one probably being the closest precedent, but we are kind of doing a de novo. Um, style of a, you know, style of thing here. So we do have Doug's drafts to work off of our own alcohol guidelines and the Worcester one, but you know, I guess it's, it's, it's, it's just, it's just a, um, Right. But, but it, if, um, let's just. Humor me because I feel like I'm having a senior moment or something. If, um, the spirit house said, uh, Steve, can you just send me the document that describes all of the obligations that I have as a licensee of off premises, liquor sales. What would you send him. Uh, probably messed in a lot of chapter 31, have anything we don't there's nothing like that in state law that governs what we're doing here then. No I don't believe so. Okay so well that's interesting so does that mean we wait for a lot of change? No I mean I think as we see by Worcester and I believe we've had a tentative conversation with attorneys that we do have the authority to do it. But it will be really a kind of de novo style of or path of regulation where it's really just passed by local bylaw and then by local local regulations I'm trying to think of you know other license types we have that are that are local I mean the keg regulations even might be something to look at because that's not something that has any precedent with the state. Well I think our private the private the club regulations right right. Yeah that goes off of chapter 138 as well but it um it is kind of no new you know completely local regulations but yeah I think with the keg the keg thing might be something just in terms of style where I believe it's enabled by a town bylaw and then there's regulations that cover it. What is do you have easy access to that keg document? I can um try to find that yet. Let's see um I mean otherwise I think the the kind of document we created for the for the club regulations I think might be our best model of what it would look like but I mean I'm curious what the keg what the keg document says. Okay short term keg permit. I think that's in the general bylaw so I'm looking for that. I've got I can see the application but yeah I don't know what the oh no it's it's it's attached um uh yeah Steve if you just search I mean it's in the short term uh keg permit page the permit application has the bylaw after the application on page two. I am tempted to make a parallel construction joke but I did just find that in the uh general bylaw so I'll put that up. Okay okay fair enough um I think we have uh we've got I think we have some inconsistencies. Oh really this this might be the version that was uh changed to reflect the um the license commission another one might be over. What's the date yeah yeah right so we need to update the application Steve. The application has the 1991 bylaw. Okay uh good yeah okay I mean so it's this what we're drafting is a town bylaw a section of it like the keg um um so I guess that's a question are we drafting for the bylaw or are we drafting our own uh license terms like the private club? I think it would make sense to do both of me ultimately it would be the town council that adopted the bylaw of course but it wouldn't um certainly help them out and speak things along if we gave them a draft of that to work with and then we would also have our um our own rules and regulations that could be more flexibly changed. Okay all right so so then we want to create two documents we'll we should start with the bylaw but then we want to decide what it is in the bylaw that should have some play in the joints for the commission to administer. Okay perfect makes perfect sense yeah that makes sense okay great okay um so if we're drafting bylaw I think we should find you know who's our current uh is Mendy Joe our town council liaison? I think so uh she's the one I assume so right she hasn't would she ever officially assigned to us or did she just I don't know if she was just reaching out yeah well why don't uh do you want me to email her and then see let her know? I think I think it would be good to kind of start paving the way so that um because the reality is that all the work that we did on that um that Hallie and I did got basically lost in the process of it becoming a bylaw right they started from scratch so we don't want to we don't want to do that all over again. Okay all right so let me um I'll email her um invite her to a meeting. Well I mean just who's the who's the liaison for who's the the town council liaison? Um for us I I don't know if we had it I don't remember after Alyssa left I don't remember ever having an official one she's the one who kind of just stepped in and said here's the we're doing rental regulation. So who wants to be the town council liaison for okay for a for a potential cannabis license. Right. This might be another one to look at this is um for the dealing and used articles bylaw this one's pretty simple but this is another license that's enabled in the general bylaw. Uh Steve I'm just seeing the the penalty section here. Um there really is only A and B you see A. Oh okay okay oh we may be time to time make rules and regulations regarding the issuing of licenses. Yeah well that that's not going to fly here. All right yeah we'll just decide when we want to do it. Looks easy enough. Okay so email to Mandy Johanicki start with that. I want to now I'm trying to I want to go back and see what I mean look at Doug's document with these eyes because I I never really knew how to how to assess what Doug was working on. Do you mean through the the idea of drafting some language for a bylaw? We did it we do have a draft of it. Was his draft intended as a bylaw? Um no I believe it was intended as regulations I don't think we have any draft of a bylaw. Okay all right. So we we don't we don't have a draft of it we do have a draft of the. So we have a draft of regulations but not of bylaw language. Oh bylaw language okay so. But the Worcester one would be bylaw language and I'm not sure if they had provisions for rules and regulations as well but that is that was something they adopted as a general bylaw. Okay okay draft. Is everybody reading Doug's document now? I'm trying to does anyone anyone know when what date it was last distributed to us? Uh 2022 sometime. It was a long time ago. Do you want to um one 22 maybe let me see if that's it. I think the last draft was around August or September of last year. I am homesick operating off my laptops on that. Yeah I mean I honestly feel bad that you even have to be with us right now Steve. It's nice to have company. Okay yes um it's it's in the 8th August 31 package so I'm opening it up just to and I'll report. I mean I'm you know I'm excited that we have a mandated up until now it's been kind of kind of ambiguous. Yeah he drafted as regulations. Okay. And um and I think that it sounds like we we if we're going to have a creative role here we need to do the the heavy lifting on a bylaw. So does it make sense for this group to buy for Kate and someone do regulations and someone do a bylaw or did the two are the two so close in hand hand in hand that we can? Yeah I think it's one it's kind of figuring out the architecture of it. Dylan you were going to say something? Yeah I was going to say I mean I think we do either one it seems like there's a benefit to keeping kind of a broader a broader bylaw especially where this is all new to us. I think there's an argument to be made that we might want to keep some flexibility that way if we put forward something you know whatever you know we put or the equivalent of a coin operation tax because maybe it makes sense today you know rather than years down the line we're looking why only the hangar paying $3,500 a year to us like I think it gives us that flexibility. And two I think we are one we're figuring it out and my main is just my take. I don't want to make this harder I think that we have to at the end of the day a lot of these businesses are operating and have a track record of operating my kind of thinking in terms of the regulation side of things we write whatever authority we stem from the bylaw. I even think taking the almost exact same approaches we did to private clubs they're operating they're operating well I know to go through red cardinal you know they check my ID once at the door and then even once I walk it buzzed through so you know they've clearly got be able to see well hey how are you guys currently operating and does that make sense to us rather than you know doing something in the dark where we end up putting you know cumbersome regulation and we thought maybe it made sense I don't know that's my thinking on how to approach this. Well what your comment suggests is that the big kind of policy question is what should the levers available to the commission be to act independently? What should what should the commission be empowered to be able to do of its own action? With with alcohol licenses we can change the the amount of the fee we've you know we've kind of worked on the edges around the what the ABCC requires is that is that how you see it Steve? Yeah I mean the CCC does have their own regulation so we want to you know maybe there's some things that we would want to keep in there in case those regulations change so I'll go making sure to be flexible if we don't want to create contradictory requirements but certainly some things that could go above and beyond or things that we want to ensure at a local level and I think I think the primary you know bit benefit will be local you know ability for local disciplinary action. Okay okay well so I mean that then that raises a question what are the what are the the the kinds of violations that that were concerned with potentially enforcing against? I mean clearly underage. Okay yeah yeah they also the Worcester one had a fine for anyone who is purchasing and then distributing to somebody underage and I think in the summary that you prepared there was also something about tracking the product from beginning to the end which was probably useful I don't know how we can how we put that in there though. Yeah we would want to make sure it's things that we can actually reasonably enforce. Right right so I don't know I'm not sure that's like realistic but you know a simple simple thing of even saying you know that the seller makes reasonable you call it enforcement checks to make sure you know that the guy isn't walking in and telling it to the kid standing you know outside the door you know offering 50 bucks to whoever is willing to go however we want to word that but I think that's you know a reasonable standard you can't stop somebody from driving by and then going back and telling the kid. On-premise consumption? Yeah that was absent of the license. Right right now at this moment we're just talking about like a marijuana store like a to-go liquor store right we're not talking about that. I think we do want to settle up I think we want to get this off the ground get you know get the bio on a cover everything and then get the regulations off the ground first for the off-premises but write it in such a way it can be easily expanded for on-premises and once the off-premises is adopted and running then we can work on the on-premises for whenever that comes. Yeah I agree. I'll put it out there I we want to simultaneously work on on-premises and I would love to take the lead on that one because I personally would like to see us in the position you know when the CCC does allow for it so we may do that we're in a position to to be one of the first in the state if that's something that you know the rest of the border want but I'd like to see that I don't want to be beaten out by Northampton again they got us in the first dispensary but you know we we've got the whole population they're all driving. Well I mean I think the bylaw could basically could basically give us the that's that's our that's our like bailiwick right there I think the the bylaw could give us the authority to regulate off premise off you know the on-premises consumption the way that we have the authority to regulate bars. Yeah I think that you're both exactly right we could we can write the bylaws that covers both of them and then maybe just get you know the first draft of regulations to cover off premises that's what's going on now and then maybe you'll start to work on the on-premises side of it. I think that makes sense. Okay back back to the timeline that Gaston suggested. So I curing everything that has to be done I don't know if we would get anything done by October 1st. Right okay I mean I think we should have some I I guess personally I'm of the view that it would be great to have it would be great to have some feed stakeholder feedback and it could be as simple as starting by putting it on the agenda in a more explicit way in our regular meeting. We could and and encourage people to come and share ideas I don't know if if that's. Oh so like discussion of uh Adele East Marijuana license. Yeah. Something like that. Okay yeah if I mean to try to to try to get anyone who has something to say about it I mean it would be it's good to hear everybody I mean if anybody has a view here we might as well hear it but but but in terms of like those uh the enforcement issues it seems like Worcester's really trying to bridge to um drug enforcement and so if if we're gonna think about that then we should get feedback from from the police department. Okay so I have written down people we want to so we want to work on draft of the bylaw language which includes a review probably of what Doug has written the Worcester regulations um CCC regulations um any relevant regulations that we have for other our other licenses we also want uh feedback from owners of dispensaries a community session at some point um find out the town council representative uh maybe talk to the town administration in the form of the town manager or somebody like that would you agree Steve and the police department did I miss anything I mean who else do we want to let's see yeah that's what I have uh for consultation um so in other words for the next time we so we'll put and then we'll put a as you said suggest some guests on a more explicit agenda item like environmental license under discussion items next time but at our meetings so that we can bring up to speed people who weren't at the subcommittee meetings I yeah yeah I guess um maybe I guess the order that I I see is it would be if it would be great to get find out if there's buy-in from the town council and who's gonna shepherd this okay so that we we have a runway once we have a runway then I think we can say in in a regular meeting uh we are working with the town council to draft a bylaw and uh and regulations and we're open for for feedback okay all right so the first thing I'll just email Mandy and see if we'll have a contact with us okay and feel them out and that will be our next step I mean I could I could create like a Frankenstein document where just all the different sources are in a a row and we can look at it and kind of say yes no maybe to stuff yeah sure that doesn't take too much yeah I mean I can that's not a big deal but it okay seemed like a good way to use one of our meetings yes I think so absolutely yeah okay so yeah let's do that when is when is our next meeting going to be of this of this uh task force and um I have august 10th down is that correct Steve two weeks from today so next week is blc on the third and then the 10th would be five o'clock if that yeah I think we are going to be doing alternate weeks yeah um okay uh I know I have some my I'm looking at my family calendar we have like dinner guests um family guests but um if we start at five and it's you know we keep it to the six or I don't know if if people could start earlier that day potentially I could start earlier yeah I could do like 445 I uh 430 maybe what about I was even asking people wanted to start six for this guy because I was going to uh this is I think an important issue that I definitely want to give a lot of focus to so I'm going to be requesting this time off to work the only thing is you know that gets me out of my 6 p.m. plot but it's still you know if I had a 3 p.m. that goes so high which is is pretty common it might uh yeah might not be the case so um is there another day so another day yeah another day other times that work for me um I I can do Friday mornings uh or Sundays ideally mornings as well uh I don't know about anybody else but everything else in my schedule okay or Tuesday mornings I don't believe it Tuesday mornings he said um Tuesday mornings um Tuesday I mean Tuesday morning is it could potentially work for me but I'd be looking at um at at Tuesday the 15th we can keep this this time slot for at least the next meeting um I would say uh in terms of if we're looking to get something but I I personally don't think it's impossible for us to to have this finished by October 1st if the people outside of us we can coordinate them coming in yes we want uh would we even want Steve would you I mean does it make sense for us to even reach out to uh current uh distributors now to come to our next meeting if they're available do you want some feedback or do we want to have a little more framework and do that in a month from now I would say a month but okay that's my inclination just and what what do we what do we specifically want to have done between just now the next meeting to set us up for being able to invite them into to meeting to do you want to have like kind of a rough draft of a of a bylaw and well I think what what I think I what I can do it'll take me may I can I just need to schedule it but I think in about 90 minutes or an hour I can create a table that has kind of all the different issues that come up in any of these documents and uh it can say which ones it's in and then we can kind of look at it and at least narrow down the issues that we think should be um that we think should be on at either the bylaw or the or the regulation level if I think that we could use a meeting efficiently with a document like that yeah I think that would be great um thank you but I just need I just need to find a a date that I can actually do and prepare for and um if if Tuesday morning is an option and I mean the 15th could could could work that I think is that's a date that I could I could do this for okay I don't know if uh if that's feasible for even for for Dylan or who suggested Tuesday morning or anyone else Dylan what time Tuesday um it would need to be at like probably 9 a.m I could even do earlier 8 a.m if people like 8 um but 9 a.m that day I have an 8 o'clock so 9 9 would be would be good I will be after get kids to camp but I would be a few minutes late is this this coming Tuesday or no it would be the 15th of august that should work for me okay yeah I think I can make nine I mean should we we can do 9 15 if that or I mean if we're trying to maximize time you guys start 9 a.m so that that would be great and then um I'm I'm just kind of I'm just blocking uh I'm blocking uh time before then to to try to create a table of issues okay and if you need a second set of eyes or anything just let me know okay good I mean it's okay uh I'll I'll email you uh hi um okay create canvas so the sources that we've got is um Doug's document Worcester right um I guess ccc regulations for ideas um and then uh our our alcohol bylaw right has issues that are relevant yeah right I mean our alcohol regulations right okay okay great and so and I will send an email demanding um and we'll see what comes from that um anything well that sounds like a plan for the 15th 9 o'clock um anything else on this and we can certainly discuss this in our normal meeting as well I mean the intention of this subcommittee was just to give us more time but right okay great well if there's um anything else before we adjourn no is no motion to motion to adjourn so moved I don't know who was that that was Gaston thank you Gaston is there a second I will second thank you Hallie um all in favor we'll take a vote Gaston hi Hallie hi Dylan oh wait I don't get a vote that's right sorry you don't get a vote maybe next and I vote I that is three to zero um and we're adjourned at 550 okay great so see you all on the third I hope you feel better Steve yeah sorry you feel better thank you all appreciate it there's a new season of what we do in the shadows on my kids are super excited so well we'll see you tomorrow too uh yeah Hulu I need to watch that show I really like that actor what's the show what we do in the shadows okay I don't know it's actually funny