 25th regular meeting of the 2016-2017 common council to order with a clerk. Please call the roll Okay, thank you We have a quorum of 11 and 13 who are eligible to vote Okay, 13 please read the quote for the day Communication Sorry is important more important than ever in our era of hair raising Hair trigger balances when a false or misunderstood word may create as much disaster as a sudden thoughtless act Thank you very much. Next. I'd like to call up Dylan Lindow Dylan Lindow is Has achieved the rank of Eagle Scout as a member of troop 801 we give him our congratulations for his achievement To earn that rank of Eagle Scout. He needed to fill the requirements and areas of leadership service and outdoor skills This included earning 19 merit badges Being an Eagle Scout carries a special significance Especially when you consider that only 5% of all Boy Scouts achieve this rank the fact that You have met the stringent test is a real credit to yourself Dylan and your family I'm certain that they're extremely proud of your accomplishments Dylan's Eagle Scout project was to build a gateway at the entrance of a half mile Maple Forest Trail at the Elwood H May environmental Park in addition He built a fire ring resurfaced the trail and wood ship to learning areas for grade schools grade school students This project was one of many Eagle Scout projects that showcased the planning determination and leadership of The elite few who managed to receive the rank of Eagle. I extend my personal congratulations And those of the entire council to to you as For your achievement Dylan, please now stand and join Dylan as he leads us in the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance Thank You Dylan next item on the agenda is approval of the minutes from our last council meeting all the person down here Thank you for that motion and support is there any discussion on the minutes seen none with a clerk, please call the roll Okay, all eyes I post Russian passes We have a resignation this evening to turn it over to the city attorney We have a resignation from as a board member of the Shabuigan squared board from William H. Holbrook He indicates his gratitude for having had the opportunity to serve on the board and offers his best wishes for its continued success Thank you all the person down here Thank you Here I move to accept and file second Thank you for that motion and support all those in favor of the motion, please signify by saying aye opposed Next we'll move on to mayors appointments against the attorney that we do have one from Signed by both the mayor and the city administrator To the honorable members of the common council Pursuant to general ordinance 66 12 13 creating section 2 dash 4 19 of the Shabuigan municipal code relating to the position of director of information Technology we hereby recommend that Greg for telka be appointed as the director of information technology IT for the city of Shabuigan effective immediately Okay, all their person down to you Thank you as an initial matter mayor. I would move to suspend the rules second. Is there any objection to suspension? Seeing none, please proceed. The suspension is based on mr. Bertelka's presence here in the chamber and the fact that he is ready to commence his job and therefore I would move to confirm his appointment second. Thank you for that motion and support. Is there any discussion? Seeing none all those who have to roll call us Okay, clerk will call the roll Alderman Lewandowski It won't let me log in but I vote yes Thank you 13 eyes motion passes Next we'll move on to the public forum city clerk. Thank you We have to this evening. The first one is Mike brunette. Mike, would you come on up to the front, please? Mike can we have your home address? 1925 saw 26th Street, okay, and you'll have five minutes Alright, I'll try to take one I don't have much The usual stuff one whenever anybody brings up the armory and talks about how old and decrepit it is You made it that way. They have building is awesome. It's best built building in city And it's kind of you not only let it go, but you accelerated decay the bleachers over over at the Three sheeps and it's like they're cleaning trucks in there in winter. Whatever end of the armory. It's what you want by The other thing is general knowledge and it's like communication seems to be the big thing We're into communications. She's going to get better at communicating It's pretty easy stuff. All you have to do is tell people things when they happen Actually, maybe before they happen Maybe before you vote on them people need to know a little things they need to know What's going on and it's like for instance? We just had an election go down and somebody thought they were going to win by a landslide because Everybody they talked to Was telling them so Everybody was behind them. Well, maybe they were talking to the wrong people Because there's somebody in this room who's quite excited. They were and Nothing against somebody that somebody's Marcus Marcus gets to walk in and it's like I heard one of my favorite quotes And once again Marcus nothing personal or whatever on this don't even really know. Yeah, but but it's like on the day when all the people are here when you're Going around with Maeve Quinn and it's like your comment was Nobody even really knows me and now I'm going to win You were right and it's kind of like good or bad that ain't it welcome welcome Henry I love Henry and it's like that'll be cool. It's like that. He's here and it's like it's not really What I wanted to talk to I was going to sign up because I thought there was a meeting on Monday night But once again my bad and it's like it's a little communications thing and on this part I screwed up, but I thought it was kind of important for people to know some major developments that are going in town that Were pretty much Totally behind closed doors to the point that most of the people looking at me don't even know they happened yet You will soon the press knew WHBL knew but I'm listening to WHBL this morning and I found out during the news you can use beef and Turkey in a chili Okay, but did I find out anything else? No, but that's kind of how radio news is But I'm an old newspaper guy and I live and die by it take it seriously Love it and it's like and if you aren't doing your job Move on man, and it's kind of like report on things You're not here to play around and it's like I always thought I was telling people something original And I tell them if you get everything you know from a newspaper You know less than people who read nothing at all and this is coming from a newspaper guy And it's kind of like and all of a sudden out of the blue. I'm like, well, I better check on that Benjamin Franklin came up with that It's kind of like it's just what it is. It's like you can't trust your news sources It's just what it is. You need to get original documents. You need to get involved in community You need to get out you can't blame these guys can't play in the pay up You can't blame anybody if you want to know what's going on in town. Leave the house talk to people Now outside of that. I got a beer waiting at majorlies. I'm out. You guys have fun Thank you, Mike. Next on the list is Mike fro. Get your home address, please. You bet. Good evening I'm currently at W 65 98 County Road JP L. Cart Lake However, I grew up in Sheboygan my office is in Sheboygan. I've been active in our community for my entire I'm also an avid boater. I've rented a slip in our Harbor Center marina for the last 21 years I was appointed to Sheboygan's marina committee in 2005 I chaired that committee for several years and I remained a member when the marina committee was merged with parks and forestry I chaired the marina parks and forestry commission for the last three years I also serve on the board of visit Sheboygan, which is our new tourism entity I'm addressing you tonight to ask that you do not eliminate the marina parks and forestry commission Our marina and our abundance of waterfront parks are the envy of communities throughout the Midwest Our location along the shores of Lake Michigan is an important tourism draw and has a positive economic impact in our community when our marina was developed 23 years ago The marina and Harvard committee was established to oversee the operation of the marina and our boat other boating facilities That committee was merged with parks and forestry as I mentioned five years ago The new committee has been extremely active with the transition to a new marina operator the development of additional recreational facilities and most recently Promoted the lakefront water safety task force that has made recommendations to improve waterfront safety There is now a proposal to eliminate marina parks and forestry and have public works a committee handle all of the items that were previously addressed by the prior committees Rather than eliminating marina parks and forestry, please consider Keeping and strengthening that committee to support the marina parks and recreational Facilities that are so important to our citizens and our visitors alike At last night's marina parks and forestry commission Meeting the group passed a unanimous motion to recommend that the committee be retained and strengthened I really appreciate it if you could support that motion. Thank you. Thank you Mike Thank you very much. Next we'll go on to mayor's announcements First I want to congratulate everyone on the election that was just held We had some great competition in all the different roles And I want to thank all the candidates for being interested in leading the city of Sheboygan Being a part of the solution and making us a better community Next I'd like to take the opportunity to recognize one of our older persons who is not going to be able to join us For a meeting two weeks from now and I'd asked Alderman Joe Heidemann to please step forward I want to recognize Joe for his ten years of dedicated service as an older person for the city of Sheboygan Joe served as the committee whole chairman He also served on various standing committees the public works committee as vice chairman and chairman Salary and grievances as a member and vice chairman the finance committee and the law and licensing committee Joe also served on some other committees that were very important the blue harbor resort committee the building use committee group health insurance committee the board of housing appeals and fair practices the board of marina parks and forestry commissioners Sheboygan transit commission and the strategic fiscal planning committee Joe It's my pleasure to give you this certificate of appreciation by the city of Sheboygan for ten years of dedicated services and older Person from April of 2007 to April 17th of 2017 thank you very much Thank you all very much I want to start by thanking my wife and my family For their support over the years. There are many times that the responsibility as Alderman takes center stage The fact that they accepted this and understood meant a lot to me By congratulations to Ryan if you need any help Feel free to ask me My mother said to me a long time ago try to give back to your community Through church public service or just being the good neighbor Having served the 8th district in the city Sheboygan has been an honor for me Many individuals that I've served with on this council and others over the years will be in my mind and in my heart a Lot of positive changes has happened while I've been in office. I hope Sheboygan continues to go forward and provide for its citizens I want to thank Alderman Jim Bourne for his support and guidance as an elected official You should never stop learning and I needed special training Because I came from a community west of here that took great pride and not overtaxing and operating within their means Jim helped explain to me the way things were done Sheboygan and that made it easier for me to serve the 8th district. I Do not know what the future holds for me and I will always continue to look at options to help my neighbors and my friends I want to thank the current council and previous councils for giving me a great experience. I Will also want to thank the mayors that I served under For giving me the opportunity to better serve Sheboygan through committee assignments I want to also thank all the department heads for helping me while I served. I Have always thought of the thought of council work as being part of a team Not a political party Your responsibility to art is to all the individual taxpayers of your district in Sheboygan Thank you very much. I've had a great time Next item is a proclamation This proclamation is for our Arbor Day celebration David you want to come forward in Whereas in 1872 J. Sterling Morton proposed to the Nebraska board of our agriculture at the special day Be set aside for the planting of trees and whereas this holiday called Arbor Day was first observed with the planting of More than a million trees in Nebraska and whereas Arbor Day is now observed throughout the nation in the world and whereas trees can be Can reduce erosion of our precious topsoil by wind and water cut heating bills and cooling costs And produce moderate and moderate the temperature with and also produce clean air They produce a life-giving oxygen and provide habitat for wildlife and whereas trees are renewable resources giving us paper wood and For our homes fuel for our fires and countless other wood products and whereas trees in their city increase property values Enhanced the economic vitality of business areas and beautify our committee Community and whereas trees wherever they are planted our source of joy and spiritual renewal I now therefore Mike van der steen mayor of the city Sheboygan do proclaim April 28th of 2017 is Arbor Day David present that to you And the Arbor Day celebration will be taking place at Maywood this year And I'll be probably about 9 30 to 10 o'clock in the morning if anyone's interested. Thank you very much Next we have two public hearings The first one is item 2.1 hearing number 22 of 16 17 to amend the city of Sheboygan's Future land use map of the city's comprehensive plan in order to change the land use Classification of property located at 1031 Maryland Avenue from employment to central mixed use Is there anyone who wishes to be heard? Is there anyone who wishes to be heard? Is there anyone who wishes to be heard all the person down here? Thank you for that motion and support all those in favor, please signify by saying aye opposed motion passes Second hearing is item 2.2 hearing number 23 of 16 17 to amend the city of Sheboygan's Official zoning map to change the use district classification of property located at 1031 Maryland Avenue from class Ui and urban industrial to class cc central commercial Classification is there anyone wishes to be heard? Is there anyone who wishes to be heard? Is there anyone who wishes to be heard all the person down here? Yeah, move to close the hearing second. Thank you for that motion and support all those in favor, please signify by saying aye opposed motion passes Next we'll move on to the consent agenda It'll include items 3.2 through 3.18 all the person down here I moved to accept and file all reports of officers accept and adopt all reports of committees and pass all resolutions Second thank you for that motion and support. Is there any discussion on any of the items included in the consent agenda? Seeing none with a clerk, please call the roll for passage Alderman Lewandowski. Oh, thank you 13 eyes Motion passes next is report of officers That'll include items 4.1 through 4.7 those will be all referred to various committees under resolutions item 5.1 is resolute the resolution number 235 of 1617 by all person bellinger authorizing executing Executing in an engineering services contract between the city of Sheboygan the state of Wisconsin the Wisconsin Department of Transportation and Kapoor and Associates for the Pennsylvania Avenue bridge rehab rehabilitation project all the person bellinger Thank You mayor. I moved to suspend the rules Is there any objection to suspension? Seeing none, please proceed. The reason for suspension is that I guess there's an issue with the DOT and they need to have this contract Executed by Friday, so in order to get this pass and get the funds established and take care of this It needs to be done tonight. So that's the reason for that so So with that I would move to pass the resolution Thank you for that motion and support. Is there any discussion? Seeing none will a clerk, please call the roll 13 eyes Motion passes Item 5.2 is resolution number 236 of 1617 by all the person down here Authorizing the sale of city-owned property in Sheboygan Business Center one lot totaling 15.745 acres to KW SBM LLC All the person down here Thank You mayor as an initial matter It's my understanding that this resolution previously passed Needs additional attention a certified survey map has been done of the property in the title insurance company Which is this council to pass an additional resolution and time is of the essence with that in mind I moved to suspend the rules second. Thank you for that motion. Is there any objection to suspension? Seeing none, please proceed. I move to put the resolution upon his passage second Thank you for that motion and support. Is there any discussion on the motion? Seeing none will a clerk, please call the roll 13 eyes Motion passes Item 5.3 is resolution number 237 of 1617 by all the person Jose Creating an escrow account of five hundred thousand dollars for the purpose of granting a property developer who purchases a historic Sheboygan Armory the funds of up to five hundred thousand dollars that are necessary to raise the building All the person down here. Thank you, mayor. This is a little unusual And Alderman Jose has drafted this resolution, which we've all had the opportunity to review He has not signed it. I am not willing to sign it. I feel that we have explored this territory Great detail It calls for the escrow five hundred thousand dollars for an indeterminate period of time in the event that someone may show some interest in Rehabbing the armory given the city's efforts in earnest since 2014 to Either sell the building to explore uses for creative use of the building and Having had no luck in spite of really significant efforts. I feel that this is It's unnecessary and not productive of our time So I guess my question for this city attorney is If there's no signature on the resolution would a motion to file be in order I think just to Cover all the bases a motion to file would still be in order And that was a part I wouldn't file this resolution Thank you for that motion. Is there a second? We have a second Okay, the motion to file is before us. Is there any discussion? Seeing none all those the clerk call the roll, please Ten eyes three nose motion passes Items 5.4 through 5.8 will be referred to various committees under reports of officers Item 6.1 is RC number 372 of 1617 by the committee the whole who was Referred our own number 258 of 1617 by the city clerk submitting a communication from the firefighters local 483 Regarding work with the fire department management staff to create a plan that addresses the staffing concerns shared by the union Staff and the council recommends that the document be accepted and placed on file all the person Heidemann Thank You mayor. I Move that the report committee Thank you for that motion and support under discussion All the person Heidemann. Did you have anything else to add? Oh, sir. Okay? Seeing no other lights All those in favor of the motion, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed Motion passes Next item is 6.2 is an RC number 373 of 1617 by law and licensing to whom is referred our own number to 30 of 1617 By the city clerk submitting various license application and recommends that taxi cab driver's license number 104 9 be denied based on his failure to accurate reveal all relevant convictions on his application His record of violations related to the license to activity his record as a repeat law offender And his failure to cooperate with the committee All the person drawing Thank You mr. Mayor I would make a motion to move this report of committee be accepted and adopted second. Thank you for that motion and support Any discussion on the motion? First is Moises Chavez here It appears he is not here Okay, so you know other discussion all those in favor of the motion one, please We'll call the roll on this one Year name 13 eyes motion passes Item 6.3 is RC number 374 of 1617 by the committee the whole who was referred RC number 368 of 1617 by the Public Works Committee and Resolution number 215 of 1617 by all their person bellinger the clearing intent to exercise the police power to levy special Assessments for the 2017 bituminous resurfacing program for various streets and recommends that the documents be placed on file All the person Heidemann. Thank you, ma'am here. I moved that the report of committee be accepted and adopt to file second Thank you for that motion and support under discussion all their person Heidemann I'll listen to me. I'll go first. Okay All the person seal Did you have no? Any other discussion other person down here Excuse me, so I've given this a lot of thought since our discussion at the committee of the full And I've been torn by it because as I stated before I am In general in favor of elimination of special assessments. I feel they're unfair to individual property owners and so forth However This particular approach causes me some concern because of the number of streets that have been outlined in the ordinance And we have really not made any determination as to which of those projects will or should be eliminated We haven't looked at sort of a ranking of need and we also haven't looked at the possibility at least for 2017 that there might be other places where $500,000 may be located so that individual project and some Projects would have to be pulled And so it really seems to me that we ought to take a look at this in just a little bit more detail before we proceed And therefore I would move to amend the resolution to refer to finance for further exploration Can you please repeat the motion to refer to finance? Okay, we have a motion to refer to finance is that debatable Motion to refer is debatable any and any further debate on this referral all the person Bellinger Thank You mayor I'm the person who drew or put this up for Discussion and to be filed. We don't need to send this to The finance committee, you know, what's gonna come out of the finance committee. It's gonna get recommended based on the The population of the alderman that are sit on that committee come back as recommended to Not move forward with filing and you know, and that's just gonna come back to the council We're gonna have a debate again We've debated this thing exhaustively through the committee the whole and at the Public Works committee meeting. We've got more than enough revenue to deal with our streets We're borrowing an excessive amount this year to deal with our streets We've got two point three million dollars worth of brand new revenue that we've never had that will be coming in annually To deal with the streets. We've got the garbage fee the wheel tax and The garbage fee the wheel tax and The sales tax so that's two point three million dollars worth of new revenue It's it's onerous in everybody that spoke out against that spoke Filing at the committee the whole meeting There was not one person that said on the merits special assessments are awesome And we should just keep doing it because it's a very equitable way to fund our roads on the contrary Everybody said it's a horrible way. It's not equitable. It's unfair. It's unjust Those are some of the adjectives that were used to discuss to describe, you know This action this police action that would we would take that would take place the people on Camelot Boulevard Are gonna have larger lots a lot of them are gonna have in excess of $5,000 special assessments This does hurt the people that are On fixed incomes and low income The most and it's an unfair thing. We've got enough money. We let's end it for 2017 and we can revisit it for 18 and I would certainly put a resolution forward for 2018 to to get rid of it then too, but again, we've got more than enough revenue And we haven't even started the road projects or looked at what we're doing yet for all this revenue We've got a brand-new paver We're gonna be more efficient with the paver. So there's gonna be some efficiencies there, too so I Don't believe that you know Eliminating this unfair assessment is going to detriment our road projects moving forward quite the contrary We are very fortunate with the revenue streams that we have there is not another there's rarely or Virtually no other community in the state that has a wheel tax and a special assessments I've called them all and spoke to the the public works directors and the finance directors at length and I gave you know I Gave Billy a copy of that and he's got the documentation so again, I would just like to see this eliminated once and for all and Not have us be the only community in the state that has a wheel tax and a special assessment. Thank you All the person Ballinger I seem to remember a different number on Camelot Boulevard as far as average assessments Ryan Sasma, there's no objection. Would you please come up and clarify those average assessments on Camelot Boulevard? I didn't say average. I said some of them if you look at them I think you screw me to the higher number and I'd like Ryan to give us a better average I would like it stated that I never said average and you know and you don't misrepresent what I said, please Thank you Ryan's got the floor now These are the handouts that I had last Monday or Tuesday for the committee of the whole meeting On Camelot Boulevard, like I said we for the resurfacing at a resurfacing number, which is a hard number because we have a flat fee cost But for the curb and gutter that's always the worst-case scenario. So whatever frontage they had it was assessed at $20 and $20 and 85 cents But as I mentioned the committee the whole not all the time all the curb and gutters we removed or removed the replace for for a homeowner A lot of times it's zero percent, but sometimes it is a hundred percent What is the range of assessments for the street resurfacing Ryan? For Camelot Boulevard. Yes, please on the one block that I looked at I just I just took one of the one of the blocks on Camelot It ranges from Approximately $5,600 all the way down to about $3,100 so that is That's that's that's the range of that one block, which is about 10 houses. Thank you very much Next-dollar person Heidemann. Thank you mayor quite honestly. I don't know what that had to do with the referring this document back to finance That's the motion that's before us right that's what we're gonna have to vote on So having a discussion on what's happening with assessments or having Ryan come up Explained to us what the assessment arms has absolutely nothing to do with sending this document to finance I'm not going to support sending it to finance. I think we talked about it at Enough at committee of the whole That we should be able we should be acting on this tonight. Thank you for those comments older person Donahue And all I want to say is The plain fact is we may have a lot of money, but we're gonna have $500,000 less for road repairs in 2017 and my question is and I'm wondering if this would be a reason to refer to finance which We may decide We may hear from public works that it makes sense to take away like a block from each project Or we may hear that Ashland Avenue, I'm just guessing Ashland Avenue is so bad that that's going to be Prioritized top, but maybe Camelot is not as bad then because Dealing with a major source of income for the city just with one committee of the whole meeting and a council meeting Well, which will set a precedent for what we do in the future is actually a matter of some weight and concern and I think I Think that we can just slow down just a little bit to take a look at it. My purpose in this is not As I say, I don't like special assessments anymore and anybody else does it's just to but let's figure out in a logical Rational way how we're going to use reduced resources. It's five hundred thousand dollars less You still may have lots and lots of money, but it is five hundred thousand dollars less to make these repairs And that's going to have an impact So we can look at that and then Maybe shouldn't even open this can of worms, but we do have various reserves in various spots and While we can't fund the deficit that lack of special assessments would provide By using our reserves on a long-term basis, maybe in 2017 We could do that if Dave Bebel comes in and says these roads are rated Badly, I don't know if they are not there, you know, we have our numbering system and these are really bad roads That won't you know that need to get repaired maybe just for 2017 We could look at a reserve and finance could talk about that So this is not to to decide that we aren't going to do it or whatever It's to be thoughtful considerate and and and really planful about the best way of handling the reduction of Income for the street programs. So because what we have planned here Is all the money that Alderman Bellinger was talking about and we're going to take We just need to realize we are taking away five hundred thousand. So I'm thinking finance can look at it We can be a little bit more reflective and planful and then come back to the council with our recommendation that Ashland from South tends to south 17th can wait until next year or in some reserve fund there would be $500,000 to make that repair. I just like my Shakespeare professor said one speed kills So spend an entire you know semester on a hamlet or whatever speed can kill us here We will make bad decisions just because we don't want to take a little bit more time to talk about it Thank you for those comments all their person vitamin. Yeah, thank you mirror that's $500 number Darrell is That's not the actual number It would the streets that have to be worked on would be the ones that we're getting the assessment So instead of bringing in $500,000 in here We could bring in as little as a hundred thousand dollars in years if they don't do those streets We haven't done street one We don't know And already we're worried about losing $500,000 which I quite honestly. I think that's on the high side Is is there is there a middle number or something that would actually be really realistic as to what the proper assessments would be the estimate for 2017 The two minutes resurfacing assessments is five hundred thirty four thousand. That's if they get them all done Based upon the projects that have gone out for a bit and that the council is considered awards for There's a related return as far as special assessments. So five hundred thirty four thousand Okay, thank you Next is all their person trusted I just have one thing to say and that is we seem to repeat over and over again We go to a committee meeting we vote on something Then we pass it and then we go to another meeting and it's reopened And we have to hash it out over and over again. It seems as though Those that don't like what the majority said bring it up again to re-vote Hoping to get us to change our vote. I'm not voting in favor of sending this to finance I voted in favor of killing the Assessments at the committee of the whole and I will vote again for that here. Thank you All the person boring Thank You mayor when this came to the public works committee. I think we had Probably a 45 minute to an hour discussion the mayor was there mr. Hoffman was there the city attorney was there Nancy bus from the finance department was there. We had we had a discussion We moved it forward and it went to the committee the whole and I thought we had a very very good discussion at the committee of The whole I'm not going to support sending this back to finance if this passes tonight You're going to have the five hundred thousand dollars and if it doesn't pass There's no reason it can't go on the of next finance agenda next Next Monday night if we have a finance committee to be discussed. I don't think it has to be referred there That's the natural thing that'll happen if it doesn't pass and if it does pass you've got the five hundred thousand. Thank you Thank you for those comments person feel I'll comment after we go Okay, there's no more lights Let's see. That's a roll call vote This is motion to refer to finance Oh To clarify and I would be to refer to finance and then they would be to not to refer Three eyes ten nose Motion fails now. We're back to the original motion Please repeat the original motion is to accept and adapt the report of committee to file Under further discussion other person feel All right, no, I'll talk I'm not a favor of eliminating any dollars towards the streets I think the city of Sheboygan kind of spoke in this last election And which way they're thinking of dollars on how they want the streets to get fixed I think it's definitely a problem and I think the city has spoken that they want the dollars to go to streets They're willing to pay the money and look at the town of Wilson They brought a referendum out there the town of Wilson is willing to do a wheel tax now to get the streets fixed The city has spoken we really need to get these wheels fixed and I'm not willing to eliminate any dollars I was on the fence on this also because I wasn't sure and after watching what happened I think it was pretty obvious that the city wants their streets fixed and they don't want us to cut any corners They want us to get them done now and that's why I'm in favor of not filing it. Thank you Thank you for those comments. Is there any other discussion? See none will the clerk, please call the roll. Yes. Yes, both is the file It's a motion to Accept the doctor report that says to file. So a yes vote is the file. Yes. Well, it means to eliminate file seven eyes six nose Motion passes Next is item 6.4 RC number 375 of 1617 by the strategic fiscal planning committee to whom is refer Resolution number 181 of 1617 by Alderperson Donahue Wolf feel Bellinger and Holschew Eliminating and re-establishing various committees and amending the composition of others and recommends passing the resolution Alderperson Donahue. Thank you mayor. I move to accept adopt and put the resolution on its pass Thank you for that motion is there second and we have a second and it's before us for discussion See no discussion or the clerk, please call the roll 11 eyes to nose Motion passes Next is item 6.5 RC number 376 of 1617 by finance to whom is referred Resolution number 222 of 1617 by Alderperson Wolf providing for the sale of approximately five million dollars of general obligation promissory note series 2017 a and recommends passing the resolution all the person born Thank you, mayor. I make a motion to accept an adopt Accept an adopt and pass the resolution second Thank for that motion in support. Is there any discussion on the motion all the person born got that anybody else Okay, seeing no discussion with a clerk, please call the roll Motion passes Item 6.6 is RC number 377 of 1617 by finance tumors referred resolution number 223 of 1617 by Alderperson Wolf Approving the amended and restated contract for sale of land for private development between the city of Sheboygan and eighth in New Jersey LLC and recommends passing the resolution Alderperson Oran Thank you, mayor. I make a motion to accept an adopt and pass the resolution Second thank you for that motion in support under discussion Under discussion Mary for the audience at home. I believe this is the development That's going to be going on the old tri-par location across from the former Martin Pontiac for this beautiful apartment building Thank you very much. I'd like to call up Chad Pellecek for a little bit more information on this project What I did is I put together Request for considerate come a council consideration the same document we use at our committee levels and I just wanted to Review a few things as it relates to this project back in 2016 April 8th the council accepted a contract a Developers agreement for LCM funds to build a 91 unit apartment structure on the property as alderman born referenced the former Tri-Power Saints serial convent property Due to some unforeseen soil conditions and a redesign of the entire foundation based on the soil Conditions that they had there the project was stalled until they came back to us with a couple proposals in the Proposal before you today is the one that city staff feels is the best and the most on tages for us to move forward So I just have a couple Comments and they're the changes to the agreement includes a four hundred thousand dollar increase in the incentive payment from a million seventy five Seven hundred seventy-five thousand to two million one hundred seventy-five thousand It's primarily to redesign the underground parking structure In order to accommodate this soil conditions that are out there the four hundred thousand dollars in loss increment The four hundred thousand dollars in increment that's going to be put towards this Would be lost if we some some alderman had asked what if we just Scrapped this whole project and went out and found a different developer Well that four hundred thousand dollars will be is what we would lose an increment if we waited one year So it's really pretty much a wash This project has been approved by the state It's been approved by the planning commission the architecture review board and it's really ready to move forward Pending approval of this agreement Plans are to start the project in June LCM funds is the primary developer there had been some current concerns by alderman about SMET development It's not construction being in there in their past track record They are no longer a party to the development and there's also some local investors on the other flip side of it The four hundred thousand dollars would come from the state trust fund The reason is because some people had asked what if we alderman have questioned could we just add it on to the current Borrowing our financial advisor as advised that that our current borrowing of five million is a non-taxable bond And this would be a taxable bond so we therefore would not be able to add it on the most cost-effective measure we feel as staff is to Finance this through the state trust fund and then allow the TIF district to pay back that debt I've provided some pictures of what this development is going to look like as alderman born referenced It's a very high quality development. This is a section of the city I think that I hear the most comments about Is this south a street from the bridge to the swing streets and that people tourists and residents feel like they're in no man's land Because there's really nothing there. I think this development will definitely transform that corridor it talks about in here the fact that that in the 2014 Harbor Center master plan the Identified 300 new apartments in downtown with the two projects under construction today right about 136 this additional 91 apartments will bring us up to about 227 apartments So I think we have everything pretty much in order to move this thing Forward other than this additional funding one thing I will mention is that they did go to the state and got a $300,000 grant to match this for 100,000 to deal with the soil conditions. They're close to almost $750,000 additional costs The last note. I just want to state is this property has been vacant the primarily the intersection of Virginia and a street that was deeded to the city on a tax foreclosure 20 some years ago from the county and we've struggled to develop that parcel all along And I think this is a good quality development So I would look for your support in approving this resolution to move forward. Thank you For those comments and appreciate the work that both you and administrator Hofflin did to negotiate this agreement Any other discussion? Seeing none will the clerk. Please call the roll 13 eyes Motion passes item 6.7 is our scene number 378 of 1617 by the finance committee to whom was referred resolution number 224 of 1617 by Alderperson Wolff Authorizing a transfer of appropriations in the 2017 budget for an advance to tid number 16 for a parking study recommends passing the resolution Alderperson borne Thank you again mirror. I moved to accept and adopt and pass the resolution Second thank for that motion in support. Is there any discussion on the motion? Seeing none with the clerk. Please call the roll 12 eyes 1 no motion passes Item 6.8 is RC number 379 of 1617 by public works to whom was referred resolution number 230 of 1617 by Alderperson Bellinger Authorizing entering into a contract for the 2017 North 15th Street paving and recommends that Resolution be passed all the person bellinger. Thank you mayor. I moved to accept and adopt and pass the resolution Thank you for that motion in support. Is there any discussion? Seeing none will the clerk call the roll 13 eyes motion passes Item 6.9 is RC number 380 of 1617 by the finance committee to whom is referred resolution number 234 of 1617 by Alderperson Wolff authorizing a transfer of appropriations in the 2017 budget for salaries and benefits in The city clerk department recommends passing the resolution Alderperson borne Thank you, mayor. I moved to accept and adopt and pass the resolution second Thank you for that motion in support under discussion under discussion. We talked about this in finance, of course and The city clerk has a long time employee. That's retiring in July and Sue Richards brought this forward to finance. She has a very good in my opinion has a very good transition plan Where they're going to hire the new employee and the new employee will work with Cinda through the licensing Process and that'll make for an easy transition. So I recommend that we pass this resolution. Thank you Thank you for that discussion any one else Seeing no lights with the clerk, please call the roll 13 eyes Motion passes item 6.10 is RC number 381 of 1617 by the committee of the whole who was referred resolution number 227 of 1617 by all the person whole shoe Heidemann and feel directing the city administrator to perform an internal study of the fire department Related to staffing and scheduling concerns and recommends that the attached substitute resolution be passed all the person Heidemann Thank you, mayor. I moved that the reported committee be accepted and adopted and Passed the substitute resolution second. Thank you for that motion in support under discussion all the person Donahue Thank you, mayor at this point. I would move to amend the resolution from two weeks giving the fire chief and HR director two weeks and amended to six weeks I Think I Still have great concerns about this approach to analyzing how the fire department should be functioning But I think we really need to get both the chief and the HR director enough time to To perform the study and then I think it'll provide us with some basic information I think we'll still eventually probably need to do something a bit more Extensive than that, but I do think that Six weeks is a much more realistic time Accordingly I would move to amend the resolution to substitute six weeks for two weeks second Motion and support the amendments before us Let's have just discussion on the amendment Could you clarify that Alderman? I think you said I'll alter it from six weeks to two you meant the other one. Oh, I'm sorry Okay, two weeks to six weeks. Thank you. Is there any discussion on the amendment? Allerborn Thank You Mary. Yeah, I would agree with Alderman Donahue, this is this is going to be a big job a cumbersome job And I can just imagine going through all those job descriptions and this past at committee of the whole with only two weeks That is really rushing through something. That's very important and I support the chief and the HR director doing this But I agree they need more time. Thank you Thank you for those comments in the other discussion Yeah, and this is the role will be on the amendment to the resolution from two weeks to six weeks to report out And I vote would be to do six weeks 13 eyes motion passes Now we're back to the regular for the main motion as amended under discussion on that Alderperson Heidemann. Thank you, mayor This is a good idea. It's a start. I hope it goes much farther Again, I'm not going to be around anywhere I'm not making a last pitch ditch effort to try to do a little bit more Analyzation of the fire department, but the plan that we got that we had presented to us the 2020 plan That's got to be looked at. We have to start us with the job descriptions. That's fine But that's not going to be enough. I quit honestly. I don't think the body you're going to be satisfied with everything that comes back there and Again, I give them all the credit or HR director to get this done and get this information back to you But again, whether it was six week eight weeks ten weeks a year and a half. You're not going to get what you really want from this study Thank you for those comments any other discussion Seeing none will vote on the motion clerk. Please call the roll 13 eyes Motion passes Item 611 is RC number 382 of 1617 by the strategic fiscal planning committee to whom was referred general ordinance number 39 of 1617 by Alderperson Donahue Wolf Thiel bellinger and whole shoe Repealing and recreating various sections of the municipal code as to implement the provisions of resolution number 141 of 1617 implementing the changes to the city of Sheboygan committee commission and board structure effective April of 2017 and April of 2018 and recommends passing the ordinance Alderperson Donahue Thank you, mayor. I move to accept adopt and put the ordinance upon its passage second Thanks for the motion in support under discussion Alderperson boring Thank You mayor. I want to make a motion to amend the document as follows The president of the council and the chairperson of the finance slash personnel committee may not be the same older person My thinking behind this is this year. I think we had a very good arrangement in that we had All our person Donahue as president of the council. We had Alderman Wolf as chairman of the finance committee Going back on the going to be the 11 years. I've been on his council We've had several occasions when the president of the council has also been the chairman of the finance committee and there were rumblings back then by the Alderman that They didn't feel that the president of the council should also be chairman of the finance committee because When discussing a lot of big issues It was their opinion is my opinion and that's why I'm bringing this up that I think it's more and it's important to have More the more alderman that get involved in these big discussions like what we're going to do with city hall What we're going to do with the budget what we're going to do with street assessments that type of thing I think it's very important to have as many alderman involved in that as possible Now that's not to say that if the mayor feels that the president of the council should be on the finance committee That's fine that the alderman that the mayor can make that appointment but in the past and I think of three occasions since I've been on the council where There have been rumblings by the rest of the council that the it just wasn't inclusive enough of all the of all the alderman And that's why I'm making this motion. Thank you Okay, we have a motion an amendment and a second any other discussion on the amendment All the prison height a man, I'm here. I'm busy guy I Want to know how we can address concerns from mr. Froh on the That's the next issue that's the next issue No problem any other discussion on the amendment alderman boring. Could you restate it please for me sure the president of the council and The chairperson of the finance slash personnel committee may not be the same older person Just to clarify in your argument. She talked about the finance committee and now you're talking about two committees, correct? Well, the new committee the new committee as it's going to be amended here It's my understanding the finance committee and the personnel committee are going to be the same committee. All right That's right. They're doing together Just a point of clarification Where would you make that? Somewhere in the document I would think right around the area where we're talking right after we're talking about the force standard committees They're laid out what the new committee structure is going to be So you'd add that language to Which section Let me let me bring it up here. I don't have it Pretty long document, but did in the section one Which talks about amending section two dash seventy two right, and then Would you do that then as sorry using my normal computer? So it's Would you would you add that as a separate subsection D or would you? Sort of put instructions. I think it could be I think one I think it could be a separate subjection if you think that's the best way to do it I'm Thinking about it it may actually be better to do it as an amendment to sub a sub one In where it says finance and personnel semicolon five alderman You could add something like then your language that the The chair of the finance committee shall not be the president. That's good. That's fine Discussion please call the roll on the amendment 13 eyes Motion passes Then we're back to the main motion with that amendment included Any other discussion on the main motion as amended Seeing none will the clerk, please call the roll 13 eyes Motion passes Next move on to item 6.12 as RC number 383 of 16 17 by strategic fiscal planning committee to whom was referred general ordinance number 40 of 1617 by Alderperson Wolfiel Belanger and whole shoe repealing and recruiting section 74 dash 2 of the municipal code relating to parks as to implement the provisions of resolution number 141 of 16 17 Changes to the city of Sheboygan committee commission and board structure effective April of 2017 and April of 2018 and recommends passing the ordinance All the person down to you move to accept adopt and put the ordinance upon its passage Second, thanks for the motion in support under discussion all the person Belanger Thank You mayor. I would like to amend this and have it make the motion to fire I had a lengthy conversation today with Joe Curlin I was unable to attend the marina parks and forestry commission meeting yesterday and He mentioned that there was unanimous support to keep the committee moving forward and do some things to enhance the vibrancy of the committee and the proactive nature of the committee right now the committee has been pretty much a reactive committee and the last couple of years it hasn't been real proactive and Joe thinks that it would be in the city's best interest if we were to keep the committee and Reconstituted a little bit make some tweaks and some changes give them a little more autonomy and have them become a more proactive citizen-based commissioner committee so for that reason I'm in favor of Filing this and in fact killing it so that the marina park and forestry commission can continue as is and then they can work Towards Reconstituting it in the manner that they seem fit but in my conversation with with Joe That's the way that he wanted to have it go it and he feels most comfortable And he thinks that it can be a tremendous asset moving forward if some things are done a little bit differently So I would like to see that happen Thank you for the motion and support well It's not a proper amendment to the original motion What probably should happen is vote vote up or down and it's gonna take a three-quarters vote to pass this anyway If it doesn't pass you've in essence got rid of it Anyway, you could file it after the first motioners Pull their motion off the floor. They can You'd be interested in doing that all the person down here It seems to be more sensible just to do an up or down vote here Okay, I mean if we're if we're against it then we Then we vote no very good. It's filed and Just as a point of order then I presume the current structure remains the same Correct if if this goes down to defeat Then the committee would remain in place as it is currently structured and if we wanted to do further changes In the future we could come back So I think if it's okay that it's just makes sense if you don't if you don't want to change this just no Okay is understood Any other discussion? The motion to file is not a motion this time So we'll be voting on the original motion made by all their person down here and again Yeah, so we would have to vote no on this Resolute mean this motion and then Alderman Bellinger make another one to file Okay Okay, is there any other discussion Seeing none will the clerk call the roll on the motion to accept and adopt and pass the ordinance Three eyes ten nose motion fails All the person Bellinger but it fails I don't think I need to do anything do I Okay, thank you. All right Moving on to item 313 RC number 384 of 1617 by strategic fiscal planning who was referred general ordinance number 41 of 1617 by other person Donahue Wolf theo Bellinger and whole shoe repealing a recreating section 15.915 of the city of Sheboygan zoning ordinance as to remove the duties of the housing Rehabilitation and loan program from the historic preservation Commission and recommends passing the art of ordinance all the person down here I moved to accept adopt and put the ordinance upon its passage second. Thank you for that motion in support Is there any discussion on the motion? You see none will the clerk police call the roll 13 eyes Motion passes under matters laid over Item 7.1 is our own number 250 of 1617 by the city planning Commission to was referred general ordinance of number 5 of 1617 by all the person Donahue and Jose to amend the city's future land use map of the Sheboygan comprehensive plan to change the land use classification of property located at 1031 Maryland Avenue from employment to central mixed use and recommends passing the ordinance all the person Bellinger Thank You mayor. I moved to accept and file and pass the ordinance second. Thank you for that motion in support Is there any discussion? See now will the clerk please please call the roll 13 eyes motion passes Item 7.2 is our own number 249 of 1617 by the city planning Commission to humans refer general ordinance 43 of 1617 by all the person Donahue and Jose requesting an amendment of the official zoning map from use district classification urban industrial to use District classification central commercial and recommends passing the ordinance all the person Bellinger Move to accept and file and pass the ordinance Thank you for that motion in support. Is there any discussion? Seeing none will the clerk please call the roll 13 eyes motion passes next move on to other matters 8.1 is a report of officer by the fire chief pursuant to section 50.494 of the municipal code Submitting his annual report for the period commencing January 1 2016 and ending December 31 2016 that'll be referred to the public protection and safety committee 8.2 is a report of officer by the city clerk submitting various license applications for periods ending June 30 2017 December 31 2017 and June 30 2018 that be referred to the law and licensing committee 8.3 is a resolution by all the person Wolf authorizing submittal of a grant application to the US Department of Agriculture Forest Service 2017 Great Lakes Restoration Initiative enhance coastal wetlands program That'll be referred to the finance committee 8.4 is a report of officer by the city clerk submitting the final plot of Aspen trail estates Located to the east of north 61st Street in the town of Sheboygan transmitted by J. E. Arthur and Associates, Inc That'll be referred to the city planning Commission All the person Donahue move to adjourn Thank you for that motion and support those in favor of adjournment, please signify by saying aye Motion passes we stand adjourned. Thank you very much