 Bro, not everybody in the Navy is gay. Jesus. Anyway, welcome back to Adam and Steve. Welcome back, how we doing? Bucket list. Bucket, that's a great, let's just get into the bucket list. So I recently went skydiving. Scratch it off the bucket list. There are some things I'd like to experience. For me, I think it's a lot more about traveling and experiencing things, like even like doing stuff together, you know, and really finding joy in certain... You're good? Did everyone it? I lost all my passion. Travel brings it back. We'll travel, time travel. Time travel back to 1985, 88 miles per hour. No? I don't know how to do that. Okay, allow me to retort. What's on your bucket list? Don't say retort, no. You're just kidding. Bucket list, yeah. Let's start with you. What's on your bucket list? Well, let me try to bring such a young man. What was the last, somebody said something about something and I was like, I'm gonna put that on my bucket list. Does that help? That's as vague as you can get. It was, I think it was, let's just say the Great Wall of China, just to go see those things. I have no interest in that. No? Isn't that terrible? No, why not? I don't know. It's like I'm just making real conversation. I have no interest in seeing it. I just think if you were standing on it and you see the whole thing, it's one of those mind-blowing things of like people made this or that it's, why did they make it? I don't think I'd be that impressed. What would impress you? What would impress you? The Grand Canyon impressed me. Okay, you went? Yeah, I haven't gone. You dunking impresses me. David Goggins' feet impresses me. How long did the Great Wall take? Matt Williams just did an Iron Man. Impresses me. More than the Great Wall of China. Yeah. Okay, how's this? And this is what's wrong with me. Maybe if I had seen them start building the Great Wall of China and then like I saw the last break in, I'd be like, now that was an accomplishment. That was something. Yeah, but it's, you know, it's there. Yeah, it's there already. It's like a mountain. Yeah. I'd like, all right. Let's just go back and forth. Retort. Retort. I would like to see the pyramids. Me too. How do you think they got there? Aliens. 100%? No, of course not. Imagine you said 100%. But it's evidence. I think there's a good amount of evidence that, you know, we have been visited. Visited. Oh boy, this is where this is gonna go. Visited. Yeah. Yeah. We're not talking visiting grandma's house. No, no, no, no, no, not at all. I mean, do you believe in aliens? Do I believe in grandmothers? Yes, I do. Well, the believe in aliens has been, yeah. Neil deGrasse Tyson changed, not changed my mind, but made it so clear that aliens exist because of how small we are. Yeah. It's like the chances of that they don't exist is astronomical. It's just the fact that have they seen us. And I like what he says, he's like... They've seen us. It's like... And let me tell you, they're not impressed. Yeah, that's why they're like, yeah, there's nothing there. Yeah. Just like you with the Great Wall, they're like, yeah, nothing there. Yeah, exactly. I can retort this. I can retort. Yeah. We should probably look up the definition of retort. I'll do it. Got a full producer on set. Okay, wait. So obviously you'll be going to China by yourself. What else is on your bucket list? I'm sorry, if I... Sounded negative about it. So the bucket list was the reason, the sentiment of what happened was, I forget who I was talking to, what event was, but it was just... No, I don't really care why we're talking about the bucket list as much as what's on your bucket list. I know, but I was thinking the why was what I liked because it was just like these moments that like you work so hard, but then you just want these crazy moments as well that don't really have any goal besides just the enjoyment of the moment. Like skydiving. You don't skydive because you're like, I want to see the fish that you see over the keys or because of like the miles per hour you're flying, it's just like, what does that feel like? That's what I want on my bucket list is just moments that make you be like, man, I would never want to retort this, you know? Hold on, retort. Say something and answer a remark or accusation, typically in a sharp, angry or wittily incisive manner used in a sense. There's no need to be rude. So I used it appropriately. I used it appropriately. You've taken it and used it. When I hear good words, yeah. Yeah, I got to play with them. Okay, so I said pyramids, you said Great Wall of China. Let's keep building up on that. I like places because like the Great Wall has the same, not as much as the pyramids because the pyramids have the spirituality and like possible aliens. But what I like about the pyramids is when you're in their presence, you're like, they're just like these things. You can't really explain their beyond comprehension. They kind of mind blow. I don't like that term too much because it doesn't really describe what it feels like but it's just like overwhelms of like, wow. Like even just the arch of St. Louis. Yes. That was one of the first monuments I saw and standing there, I'm like, wow, people built this just for what? I know there's a meaning of like they entered the state. I'm not good with history. Stop asking. Me either. And so that was just like the first time I was like, oh wow, I get why people wanna go to monuments because they're cool. They are cool. I had a weird thought. Let's see, maybe we can record it. Let's say make it into the podcast. Okay, so you asked me earlier about the rock becoming president, right? And we've had Trump as president. And Jake Paul is now like a professional fighter. And we saw, what's his name? Fight Floyd Mayweather. McGregor? McGregor. We saw Mike Tyson get back in the ring. Yeah. So I'm wondering, is the past merging with the future? Is pop culture merging with politics? Are we about to break into some sort of new platform? I like that. That's an interesting thought. But how do you feel about that? Like wasn't Jake Paul a YouTuber or something? Yeah, I don't know his whole story. I just know YouTube. That's all I really know. I know Logan Paul was a big YouTuber and that's his brother. And I don't know if Jake Paul did like the same type of YouTube thing. I honestly don't even know. Me neither. But they have a great podcast. I don't even know if Jake's on it. But anyway, merging is what it feels like. Like things are kind of merging because it's too big and everybody's on the same platforms. How could it not merge, you know? Like the rock, what does he have? 250 million followers? That's, I mean, you can't watch TV things. Like a whole network TV things. Like I can't watch a whole TV program. What am I saying? And maybe COVID too, right? Like are we ever really going to go back to movie theaters? Like I took my kids to see Godzilla versus King Kong. I'm not sure. Oh, we saw the preview for that. Right. Great. That was the blue liquid. It's on HBO Max right now, which is weird. So it's like you're really going to the movies just to be able to sit and have the movie theater experience because everything that's out in the movies is already out on TV. That's new. Yes, that's really new. Like things are just merging really fast. That's what I was talking about. It feels like the things I want to do in the future are happening so fast that it's almost like I can't keep up with the things. Like if you wanted to be an actor 20, 30 years ago, right? Or a stand-up comedian. You start doing a show, you start doing these things but now it's things happen so fast. It's like what do you choose to do? Like for example, I think of Jim Carrey. Remember he had the manifestation which was actually a question. Shout out to the people that answered the question of what topics and everybody else who looked at our picture and our posts and did not respond with the topic. You're missing out. You could have put a topic that we could have covered to brilliant minds discussing it live. They're going to lock us up. They feel like retorting at them. Yeah, we're going to go there. Anyway, someone said manifestation. Yeah. And I think of Jim Carrey with that was five million dollar check he carried around. Yes. But he could kind of almost see his path and knew he had to take 10, whatever long or I don't even know, but like you have to go as you stand up, you have to go practice acting. But now it's like, I guess it's maybe the exposure part is so fast, people go so fast. It's kind of like, what do you work on? It's like American Idol. I remember, right? Like things happen, like I honestly, other than like Kelly Clarkson, I don't know one person that won American Idol. And for my career, I don't want to be, I never want to be someone that was like, here for a moment and then gone. Yes. You know, I would want you and I to create something that has a legacy that stays for a long time. Why do we want to do that? Cause I have the same feeling. I mean, really, I don't even know if I could, I don't even know if I could, my ego could take being yesterday's news. You know what I mean? You had your shot, you had your moment and then bye. That's sad. I mean, look at Jordan. He's still the most popular athlete in the world. How is that possible? He hasn't played in 20 years. And that's 20 years since his Washington days. No one even remembers that he played for Washington. What do you think his secret was, being a mystic? Yeah. And doing things the right way and caring about the game and not the fame and working on his performance on the court and not worrying so much about what, who's gonna, what's the word I'm looking for? Sponsor him. They came to him because of his game. Right. Not, oh, hey, I'm looking for Gatorade. I'm looking for this person. I'm looking for that person. They came to him. Something to think about. We were just a manifestation of the Jim Carrey thing. Yeah. I think I don't think I finished that thought. What I was saying was... Sounds about right. I'll retort to it. Yeah. So he was manifesting that, right? But during his time of working hard, there was, he didn't see other people blowing up. He didn't see like other famous people. He didn't know, like if say he saw someone in his era get famous or hit a movie. Go on. He didn't see the whole process. Now we're seeing like the whole process of everybody and there's so many different things I can do. Like for example, for myself, I love photos. I love music. I love podcasting. And all these different things can get you dunking, of course. Entertaining. Yes. Spirituality. All of it. Coaching. What else? No, but I like that because it's just a weird time. As our relationship has grown as brothers and how we met, what I've realized is, okay, this is a really terrible analogy. But you know, a lot of times in hunting or even in the army, when you go to kill somebody, it's actually not the bullet that kills you. It's how the bullet sprays. Ooh. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, it's separate, right? But I feel like our careers can do that. Right now, we're very, very focused, but I wonder where it will go. Yes. I wonder what it will blossom into. And I don't wanna tie it down and be like, no, it's just one silver bullet that's gonna go straight through, because it's not true. So we're gonna be exploding bullets. That's what I'm trying to say. That could be the name of the podcast, Exploding Bullets. Exploding Bullets is a great title. Yeah. If anybody takes that title, I swear to God. We'll shoot them in the fucking head. Just kidding. Are we allowed to do that legally? Whatever we want. Yeah, it's a miracle. Maybe we should talk about it though. It's a miracle. God bless us. Anyway. Bucket list. Give me one thing, other than the wall of China. Shooting someone in, okay. Grand Canyon's definitely won. Been there. It's great. I wanna do, I'm trying to think of what it was. Something about, oh, this is what it was, I think. I was talking to somebody about surfing. And it was, I don't even wanna surf. I just wanna go to Hawaii where the famous pipeline is and just watch those insane waves or insane surfers do that. I would love to learn to surf. So I'm glad you said that. So we'll go. You've never done it? I've gotten up and ridden some waves but I wouldn't say that I can surf. But have you gotten a wave that's kind of barreling? Not like just- No, no, no, no. Not barreling. I was happy to get up. Okay, cause like not a wave that's barreling but sometimes there's like whitewash that's still strong that's just like crumbled waves. Right? That you can learn on. But if you get a wave that's actually breaking and you're like, you feel like you're on a slope, it's like magic. I think you'd fall in love with it. I wanna show you something. You can edit this, right? You want me to pull it up? No. I can edit it, yeah. Cause I don't want people to be bored while I do this. I'm gonna double check the cams. Okay. I wanna show you, I wanna show you what Stevo did. Oh boy. Dude, see he really, he knows how to live. He should be everybody. Oh yeah, you were telling me. Do you know what I mean? Honestly, he should be. I wanna talk about Stevo, I wanted to give him that. I wanted to, remember you asked me about his content? Yeah. He went screenshot that and then I'll put it on the pod for everybody. He's one of the best producers you know. Surf. He went surfing in Alaska with his, I will. Jesus. You mean now? I'm thinking, no, I'm just kidding. All right, he went surfing with his boys in Alaska which is something he always, always, always wanted to do. Yes. And, you know, one of the things about Steve is, is that I just think he really, really knows how to live. Yeah. What do you think that is? Where do you get that awareness from of like this is worth doing? I don't know, you know, for him specifically, I don't know. It could be how grateful he is in his recovery. It could be, you know, he lost his mom at a younger age and maybe an appreciation for life. He's always been him and he's always had that, you know, dare a devil in him. So sometimes when we're like, if we're having a personal conversation, the stuff he said something like that, you know, because he has that within him. Yes. You know, it's not, he doesn't do this strictly for other people's entertainment. He does have something calling him like, I want to. Yeah. You know, I want to do this. I want to try this. I don't know. That's for life. That's for life. And that's exactly what I would love to ask him about that trip specifically is like, what did that feel like to get it done? Or like, what was so strong to go do that? And also like you said, it was something he's always wanted to do. Yeah. Like how long did he want to do that? It's a good question. And was it something that's like, like I read this book, Dream Big, which I might want to read again, Bob Goff. And it was about, this really helped me because I have a lot of dreams. I'll read that. You'll like it. It was like, instead of choosing which dreams, cause a lot of books say try to focus on one thing. It just says categorize them as small, medium, or large aspirations, but it's really good to keep the small and medium ones in mind. So that way, when the opportunity arises, you can jump on it. So for example, for Stevo, maybe that one wasn't like for his career or anything, but it was a big dream for him and his friends. So then when maybe like all his friends are like, Hey, we all have this time to go do this. Alaska is the right, like all these things line up, let's jump on it. So he had that in his mind. So I love that about that book is that it's like, don't put any of your dreams aside, none of them, even the small ones, even ones that are meaningless, like just going to surf in Hawaii, just get, just have them in the back burner. I love that. Yeah, cause I always think of wanting to do so many things. You're like, you got to focus. You can't do everything. You got to kind of sacrifice some, but it's like, no, just leave them, just keep them in a different pile. I agree with that. You don't have to kill certain dreams. I do believe that, at least for the way I'm wired, that sometimes it's healthy to focus on one project or one thing at a time. So right now I'm writing the book, Conversations with Dionne. I'm growing the hero project. We're growing and having fun with this podcast. There's a lot of, but right now I'm with you. I'm not doing all that. And that's how my brain works. You would be able to tell if I wasn't with you. I would be 20% of myself. That's just how I'm wired. But that doesn't mean that that other stuff is not happening right now. And I think dreams could be the same way. Yeah. And that's what I like about Stevo's content is that now he's not only turned his life around, but now making it into something great. And that inspires me because it's like, if you were to see Stevo when he was in Jack and stage, you'd be like, he'd be out of that group. You'd be like, he'd be the podcaster. He'd be creating videos, editing himself, like you mentioned. I'd be like, does he even know how to do that? And now he's killing it. And that's inspiring someone like me that's like finding their way of like what they wanna do. He's like, went from this to that to this living dreams to also expressing it's a great. It's so awesome. Yeah. He's very inspirational. And well, here's something. It's like yourself. And I could say this about him and some other people that we know. He's actually the most authentic person. Yes. Dion's the same, the most authentic person. You know, he's, there's no different version of him. Right. You know, what you see is what you get. So it's not like, it's not like if you in your mind believe Brad Pitt is this character from Ocean's 11. And then you meet Brad Pitt and you realize these are two totally different people. Yeah. He is totally 110% himself at all times. Right. And you know, maybe that's why we're on the planet. To be ourselves? At all times. What's funny about that is it's hard to do. Very. In the same time the easiest. Meaning if you're yourself, you don't have to, you don't have to even, you think less, but it's hard to think less. Yeah. Because you're trying to do these different things and achieve these things. But if you literally let go. Yeah. You don't have to do anything. Yeah. I remember hearing one time it was an interview or he was on stage and Jay-Z said that, you know, every time he walks into the room he always walks into the room as himself. As in he's not, he doesn't have to go in with any agenda. He doesn't have to plan what he's gonna say. He's not gonna, people please. He's not gonna speak to this part of the audience and not that part of the audience. He is just 100% authentically him. Take it or leave it. You know, I mean, it would be wonderful if politicians could do that. You know, or people of that stature. Yeah. Just to always be 100% authentically yourself. I think you and I are close. Yeah. I'm sure I fall short. I'm sure of it. But you can always retort back. I mean. I'm learning. I would love to think that we're always 100% authentically ourselves. No, I think that's what I see in you. Everywhere we go, we meet different people. We do different things. It's always the same thing. And that's what's admirable and also inspiring. You just, that's why I like to do this thing. Cause it's like, we don't have to, we don't have to plan it. We don't have to do anything. It's fun. Just fucking yell at each other. Yeah, it's great. Yeah. And I feel the same way about you. That's what I want to help people. See, it's funny. You always say like, I'm doing this and doing this and doing this. I also think you have that thing in which like when I've seen you dunk and when you're dunking, your mind's not on coaching. Right. Do you mean like you have a singular purpose as well, depending on where you're at. Yeah, I wonder where that came from. It's also because there's the, a lot of the books I read early on before I made this, it's only been a couple, that's the thing about the impatience. It's like, it's only been a couple of years since I've been doing. This. This. And it feels like it's been my life. Yeah. In a way it has, because I've been crafting, but I've only been acting on it for the past couple of years. But a lot of the books you read are about finding your thing, cutting away, doing one thing so you can be like streamlined and also the best at that. But you have to do, I have to do all these things to find it. But you've tapped into. Tapped in sometimes. Yeah, no. But you've tapped in. Oh boy. Like you were recording yourself. Yeah. And you were dunking and documenting things way before any of this was popular, which is interesting. What it, yeah. And what's interesting is, I think this might be a really big theme in my life is you have to express yourself to find yourself. And that's a really weird thing because I knew that inherently, luckily, not even inherently, I just, I did the expression, like try the dunk and then realize what it meant. It was like all the self limiting beliefs and all these different things and even the faith and believing in myself and all those different things. But now when it comes to art, it's like sometimes I wanna write music or I wanna make a video. And I don't know what to make. And I'm thinking, I'm gonna wait till I have the idea to make the expression, but you do the expression to find the message. Isn't that backwards? No, I like it. But while you were saying that, I was actually thinking of all those videos of you as a little, little kid, jumping and saying you were Michael Jordan. And it does make me believe in some sort of destiny. Yeah. Like Scotty was painting. Yeah, that's so weird. And now look at him. And I truly had a Superman that's on me the day I was born. And everything about me and everything that I've created resonates with, I do wonder that are we tapping into the future or we come on the planet knowing, with a certain knowing. And then the game of it is, is to discover how is that gonna manifest. What's cool is, one of my favorite things to do is document. Because I think it's so powerful. Like with the dunking thing, if I didn't show you the before, you might just, it'd be harder to believe that I trained all the way up. But it's cool to see that I couldn't do other things. Right, right. You may actually think that you're some anomaly that always had ups. Right. So now with us is like, we've talked about the podcast over a year ago and now we're kind of starting it. Like it's still like not as consistent as we'd like. And yeah, I mean, but if it grows, we'll have these first episodes as documented so we can be like, wow, look what, I enjoy it too because it's a form of expression. I love it. When you post these and you edit these, I don't sit there going, I don't have this agenda of like, oh, this is what's gonna make people happy or this will explode our careers or I think it's fun. It's enjoyable and you never know where it can go. That's what I want people to do. Somebody said recently asked me what kind of equipment I used. And he said, or asked if I had any old equipment. I said, no, but here's my link that I use for my equipment. And I'm like, so you're starting a podcast. And he was like, kind of, it's more just for fun. I'm like, those are the best kind. What else are you gonna do? Do you know how I met Jeff Lopes? Podcast. Me too. He was, it was during COVID. And if I remember the story a hundred percent correct, he liked my Instagram. And we saw that we had a lot in common, a specifically Superman. And he was like, what are you doing? He's like, you want to do, I was like, sure. What are you doing? Yeah, he didn't come off, it didn't come off really that way. Just kidding. What the hell are you doing? I was like, what are you doing? And he's like, you're available. And I was like, sure, I was flattered to be honest. And so to watch his podcast, kind of take form and grow and, you know, it was really at that point in my opinion, no offense, Jeff, more of an idea and an expression. I'm not sure he knew how fantastic it would be. And that's what I like to help people do is like, if you have any inkling of trying something, when you try it, it opens up so much. Anything, whether it's podcasting, whether it's surfing, if you have any spark for any reason, even if it's like you saw it once, and you're like, I kind of want to try that. When you try it, you learn so much about it, about yourself. That's what I mean by expressing yourself to find yourself. All right, so we did discuss a little bit of destiny, but how about this? Have you ever on this little journey discovered that you're really, really, really good at something that you had no idea you were gonna be good at? Probably photos and videos. See, that's interesting, right? That's interesting. I never knew that I was a great public speaker until... Really? Yeah, until I got sober. I had no idea. Why would I use that skill? I don't know. No, I had no idea. I had no idea that I'd be comfortable. I had no idea it would come so easy. I had no idea, I mean, a lot of people, they get this stage fright, they get this fear, they feel like the moment is more overwhelming. I feel like it's... Well, not nothing. I get some butterflies in my stomach, but it's more of excitement and I feel like I get more focused and my thoughts become clearer and it's easy and it's fun and it's enjoyable. And before I know it, however long I had to speak is done. Yeah. I don't know. It just comes really naturally, but without getting clean and sober, I never would have known that about myself. Really? So why? Because when you got clean and sober, then you had this talk more? It's very encouraged for you to share more about where you're at in life, share your feelings. And you shared really well. I was forced to share because they told me if I didn't, that I have a Superman complex and I was gonna, rather than identify with the people that I was meeting, I was gonna compare myself, I was gonna think I was way better than them and I would end up back to my old shenanigans. And they were like, so if you share, you'll become part of the gang, so to speak, and we'll really get to know you and know who you are and how you're feeling. And they were like, with your Superman nonsense, you better share every day because you're gonna compare yourself to this person and compare yourself to that person. Right. And you're gonna walk yourself right out of this, thinking you're better than them. So that was a good lesson in humility. Pause it. And we're pausing. So. And we're back. So, look how important I am. I'm in the middle of a podcast. Careless, I'm checking my phone. Big shot, you know what I'm saying? I'm done. So then you shared. Yeah. And it came naturally. Came naturally. And then like people asked you to keep sharing and you enjoyed it. No, no, no, people didn't ask me to keep sharing. But what happened was, as time went by and people saw how serious I was about my recovery and what was going on with me, that I was getting better and I was smiling more and I was believing what they were teaching me and I was participating in ways that I never thought were possible. They would say, hey, you know, would you want to tell your story? And this person would ask me and then that person would ask me and before you know it, it became, you know. And this is, by the way, what I'm sharing with you is a very common phenomenon in recovery. But what I'm, but for me personally is I never would have known I had that skills. Yeah. Without the process. The reason I'm asking so much is because when we started talking and you've been making videos and stuff, I'm like, you need a podcast. But remember, I sell live and it's because the way you speak and the authenticity, it's like everything you, it's not like it's not to, it's just to express. Like it just felt very like you want to hear that person talk. Yeah. And that's the part because I love that. Love to listen to. Well, I'm glad we're doing it together. Yeah. And plus, you know, I get fearful. Like I look at how you set things up and how you edit things. I don't think I, I'm sure I could. So I don't want to say negative things about myself, but I look at it and it's very overwhelming to me. So if I saw this stuff all unplugged, I would be like, there's no chance in hell I'm doing this. Yeah. You know, like, but you have a knack for it. It doesn't, you're not afraid of it at all. Right. And what's funny is that I love it. Like I love, like I don't, I don't like the high end stuff because I want it to be the best podcast. I just enjoy bringing that quality because I enjoy watching it. It's a never ending cycle. Like we always talk about like the expressing with people, the reason I want to help them express is because I love expressing. Yeah. So it's like, if you're a musician, you want to help other people be a musician. That's how it feels with the expression. A lot of times when I'm with you, I think more of like a Kanye kind of guy, you know? No. In the most, in the nicest way. I meant that. Like that was my flatter face. Because you know, I know people that know Kanye more for his sneakers than his rapping. Oh wow. Or for his larger than life loud slash out there type thinking personality than his music career. Yeah. He's really multi dimensional guy. You know, super, super talented. And when I'm around you, like, so let's say the sneakers would be for you, your photography and your video. You know what I mean? You have that. It's still expression, which is, I think that's why I feel this thing of like, I don't know what to do. Because I like expressing, but I can do it in all these different ways. Yeah. It's almost like a. But it's separate. We're like, let's say the Jordan line is an extension of Michael Jordan's game. And that's how he wanted it. His brand is an extension of him and how he was on the floor. And then he would sign athletes that he respected it, right? Where Kanye, you know, his sneakers are, I like these sneakers. I'd want to buy these sneakers. It has nothing to do with his music. Right. And that's kind of why I'm bringing it back to people listening is that's what I like about helping people express. Cause I know what I can express or what I like to do, but it's so fascinating to me to see what other people express. Like the way you like to speak. Yeah. I'd be like, I'd love to hear it speak. Yeah. And then people do other things. It's just crazy to see what their combination is. Yeah. What do you think your combination is speaking? What else? Speaking empathy for people, you know, so helping people. That's a really good question. You express physically too? Yeah. Definitely something with the body. Yeah. And faith, faith, you know, look. Oh, I wrote a book. I bring God up a lot. The book. Yeah. I'm an author. You're a writer. I'm an author. That's huge. However, I feel like I'm the kind of guy that can only write about things that I like to write about. But that's what the expression is, right? Yeah. It's like, it's an extension of me. Like I wouldn't be a paid writer. I'm a hit man. Yeah. You know, it would have to be. Yeah, I see what you're saying. But I definitely think that I would be somebody more in the spiritual realm than, let's say, the influencer realm. Right. How do you express your spirituality? Is it more something just for yourself? I think that's. Maybe it goes into the model of my life. Yeah. I think my spirituality is is look, I'm going to express this is not the platform for this. So maybe you could edit this out or make it sound appropriate. But, you know, if people knew what was really going on behind the scenes and what I'm really dealing with, I think you would see my spirituality and being like, how the hell is he being so active and so happy and finding joy while he's got this shit going right? It's a real and I'm patting myself in the back right now because it is a form of detachment from something that I'm in a lot of pain from. Yeah. You express it through living and joy. Absolutely. Oh, and I'm a big belief. For me, for me, I don't think it makes me better than other people or less than other people. But for me, I really love bringing people together and worlds combining. I can't explain why. Yeah. But I get a lot of excitement out of that. So in that way, I always say it's not the Adam show. And you're also a master at it. I always am a master. I would say it because the way you can match energies and make them align is a skill. But you know what I mean? I don't want the Adam show. Like, you meet Scotty and then you and Scotty have your own thing. And you meet Dr. Rodney. And we all have these and Michael Diamond's coming into the flow. Jeff, but I like the idea that we're all coming together. And there's no star of the show. And it's just bringing these wonderful people together. Just all energy. Yeah. But that's how I see you, too, is you're good at noticing energy, you're recognizing it, and how it aligns with someone else's. Yeah. I think that I'm good at that. It's almost like painting or music. It's just the same thing. But it's like with people. It's almost like through people, which is really interesting. Yeah. But that makes me feel good. Yeah. Because the same way I would hear a song and want to write music to it or see a photo and want to make the composition of the light hits here, that's combining different energies. That's how I see you with people. But I also wouldn't want to make it seem as if I have some sort of foresight or arrogance to it. It's not like I knew when you and Scotty met that you would be able to make that video together. No. You would paint the way you paint. Like, I didn't know. I just knew that you, too, there was some connection there. Not like I knew where it would go. Right. Does that make any sense? Yeah, it does, yeah. I just knew that there was something there. Yes. When Dion went to lunch with my father and Dr. Rob and I, granted very selfishly, I wanted to have these men in my life talk. But I did feel like these. This is a good flow. It's people. Yeah. And I say that because, like, for example, my skillset might be this expression tools. Yeah. So when I see you or even my clients, I'm like, oh, he'd be great in this with this. Yeah. Or when I take you and I have a photos, I'm like, yeah, you can write it here, you know? So it's similar, but it's awesome. Yeah. It's like our eyes pick up on different gifts. Yeah. In in in this same reality. And one thing I was talking to a friend of mine that's really great is that we all need each other. I agree with that. In like, and nobody not doesn't need everybody. Like everybody needs everybody, which is a weird thought. But it's like, I do this. I help you express maybe through here. You help me with people. And then whoever I introduce you introduce me to, this person helps you. This everybody is connected in some way. And there's no lack. I love that. There's no lack. There's no lack. People always think like, oh, if he's the guy who does the podcast, it's like, no, I'm doing the podcast in my combination. Plus years, we all amplify. And if you're with people that know that, it continues to amplify. You know why else I like it, by the way? Because there's something inside of me that is competitive. And in this area, it relaxes that feeling. You know, like when I'm bringing people together and I'm helping people, I don't feel like I'm not where I want to be and I'm not achieving my goals. Fulfilling? It's very fulfilling. Maybe it's like the ego. So it's for somebody that's wired somewhat competitively, it takes that away. And that's a really nice feeling to be able to be with people genuinely and not be like, well, he has this, so I need that. And she has it. I don't have that when I'm, you know, but sometimes if it's just me on Instagram and I'm flipping, I'm like, oh, I got to work harder. Yeah. You know, I need to break through. I'm not reaching enough people. Just the ego. Yeah. I feel that. I don't even know if that made sense. It doesn't make any sense. And that's my problem. No, that makes perfect sense. I think it's just it's when you find that joy. It's like the Dharma thing, which I like from the Deepak Chopra's book, The Last Law Purpose. It's like when you match your unique talents with the unique need of the world. Yeah. And oh, by the way, here's another thing. I love being inspired. Like you inspire me. Scotty inspires me. Mike Diamond really inspires me. It's the greatest Steve. Steve inspires me. I look at him, I go, he makes me like and inspire not, which is not Dion inspired, meaning there is no competition. I don't have this jealousy at all or this one. It's more like, wow, look at what they're doing. Look at what's possible. Look at what we can accomplish. Watching you dunk is inspiring. I don't go up. I could. Why do people do that? I think it's a lack of self-worth. We've all done it. When I was watching that Jordan documentary, it's not even spoken about or articulated enough. But to watch him basically say, my entire game, my entire nature is based on my dad would give my big brother Larry more attention than me. And I had to beat Larry. And that's it. And every single competitor in front of him is a version of Larry. It's not even about the game. It's like, if I don't beat this person, I don't get my father's attention. And he's the best. He's the greatest of all time. And I just thought that it's not spoken about enough because that's a fire that will never leave. That will never leave. And him and his dad were so tight. They were best friends. But to win his dad's approval and win his dad's attention, possibly took him being Michael Jordan. Is that crazy? He's like, relax. You know what I mean? That's how good his brother Larry was. And that's how similar his brother Larry was to his dad. They beat Lord Gray with Jordan. Larry's like, all right. You can win, all right? Sometimes. No, they would kill each other. I know, but Larry. Did you ever see that video of Michael Jordan playing his little brother? I don't think so. His big brother. No. His brother's five, six. It's eerie. Imagine a five. Imagine me with Michael Jordan's game. Like you see, like it wasn't like Michael has his game. Like they were brothers. Yeah. They had the same game. It's eerie. I'll have to check it out. Where do I find it? Just Google it. Yeah. You got it in the archives. Maybe you could split it in there. You're going to laugh. You're going to see this five foot six guy be like same moves, same mannerisms, same speaking of public speaking, double entendre. Do you have a dream place or dream group or some kind of dream public speaking event? I do. I do. It's definitely somewhere in Arizona. Wow. Some going back. Outdoors, like one of those beautiful. Possibly. And it would be a collaborative event. Again, not the Adam show. If anything, I would feel more fulfilled saying Adam was the person that got these people together, but not the Adam show. Yeah. But yeah, I like I like the idea. And I would like the idea of it being spiritual in nature. Yeah. I don't want to be the guy that's granted I've had my successes, but that's on stage speaking about business. Right. And economics. If you had a TED talk, what would it be on? What a great question. What would yours be on? Go ahead. I don't know. Let me think. I think it's about well, actually, I might be giving a little bit of a talk this Thursday at this group I go to and tell you about this yet. But it's like they hold discourses and just topics just for fun, just to have a spiritual meeting. And I was going to talk about quantum theory. Perfect. Because it's how you manifest going back to manifestation is like that's what really it's like the science side of the spiritual side. But they're both the same thing. But I think the science is cool to give a visual to what's happening, which is like you have a cloud. I'll get into it real quick. Give a cloud of possibility. Yeah. The reality is just a possibility. And then when you observe something and manifest it into a physical thing. So whatever you observe makes it real. And I really like that. I would like to combine that with spirituality and combine. It is spiritual. Yeah. But like I'm saying, like bring both sides together, science and spirituality plus energy of like the positivity, the reticular activating system, all those different things. Maybe I'll just do a mini TED talk this week. Practice it. That could be it. I'll bring it back to the next podcast we talk about. I'll say how it goes. You inspired me in that because you know what? It's going to sound like an Adam Steve thing. But I really think that the focus or the initial thought behind I would hope a very powerful talk is that you're going to die. Yeah. You know, like sincerely, you're going to die. Yes. And if you can't like let's focus on that for a little bit because if you can't wrap your head around that, yeah, that then you're just living in denial. Yes. And we none of us know how much time we have. And on top of that, so what are we going to do? Like you're going to die. Yeah. Sincerely, like so are you are you living? Yeah. And if you're going to live, you know, I don't know if they could see it, but like live, live like a hero. You know, don't just get by, you know, like really put your best effort in. And that's what that's what leads me to the quantum craziness because not only do you get to live and just make choices, but you can even try to like create a reality like an insane reality without a higher reality, a wild reality. That's why I always thought you would love that that Doctor Strange movie. Yeah, that was really good. Well, I'm kind of like a dummy. Yeah. And I need like powers. That's how we can end the podcast. Boom. But, you know, I like, you know, simple, you know, you get you get your. It's like last son of Krypton is very Jesusy. And you know, you get your powers from the one, you know, you're the yellow sun. And you know, there's a lot of Jesus and Superman combinations, but you have the Doctor Strange is much more about energy and quantum physics. And that's what's so cool about the Marvel universe. Yes, I like that. Like Captain America would be more Superman. Right. You're very dull, simple. Yeah. You got power. You're very strong. Yeah. But then you have characters like like Iron Man. Yeah. That's very scientific. Yeah. You know, and builds weapons. Right. And then you have Doctor Strange with the quantum physics and the energy and whatever. And I know not whatever. That's very dismissive. It's hot. We're talking loud. Yeah. All right. How are you going to end it? Yeah, how should we end it? I think I feel like this was a good one. I don't know what you'll be able to splice out of this, but I'm I'm proud of us. Me too. Bucket list. You didn't give me your bucket list. That was pretty forced. What last thing? One more bucket list. Hawaii pipe. I said, listen, you said Great Wall of China, which I'm not that impressed. Yeah, I said pyramids. Yeah. Then you said, you know, you want to go to Hawaii just to watch the waves. I want to serve. Yeah. I think it's a tie. It's two, two. We're not competing. Oh, right. But I like the idea of those waves. Have you ever seen waves like that, like like 10 foot waves or more in person? Yes. I'm impressed. Just kidding. I just was sitting at the beach the other day and like the waves crashing were just like small, but they're like kind of loud. Like when you sit close enough, it like consumes you. It's all you hear is the waves. And I'm like, I haven't been by big waves in a while and like just the sound of the power of nature. I feel like that changes you. And I want things like, I want more experiences like that that change you. Like, geez, that's happening right now. Yeah. Like right now those waves crashing that we don't know about. We're just hearing like birds chirping and stuff, but there could be like monsoons and shit. Basically what I'm saying is I want to be a storm chaser. I'd love to be able to be, but it's going back to a podcast we already recorded. You're recording. It goes back to people. I'm retorting. Like I'd love to be able to say I trained with Arnold. Yeah. You know, at Gold's Gym. Yeah. Or, you know, or I shot him. I got a basketball with MJ or, you know, smoked a cigar with MJ. Dude. Yes. Scratch the basketball bullshit. He's 50 something. Smoked a cigar with him. Like I just want these experiences. Yes. That'd be awesome. All right. Let's wrap it. That's it. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done with them. I'm done with these people. I'm honestly, I'm done with you. I can't wait for you to leave. It's a warm in here. Guys, it's been a great podcast. Maybe this is ridiculous. Why are we even doing it? Hopefully we'll be back next week. If not, it was a good run. I don't know how to wrap these things up. What are you? Bye. See you.