 Hello everyone and welcome to the 2020 town clerk's election here in Arlington or the debate for that election. Excuse me. I'm James Milan from ACMI and we are presenting obviously the coronavirus version of the debate with our three candidates hopefully comfortably ensconced in their own homes. And ready to get going. Obviously this is new territory for all of us so we will count on your patients if any technical glitches arise but we are going to proceed forward as we usually would. So joining me are those candidates who in the order in which they appear on the ballot are Julie Brazil and Janice Weber and Patty Brennan saw tell. Thank you all for joining us. I just wanted to very quickly go over what the debate how the debate will be structured. We will start with opening statements from each of the candidates that will last one minute each the order for both opening and closing statements were was randomly chosen. We'll then have three rounds of questions. The first round is a is one question posed to all three candidates the same question and they will each have two minutes to respond. Then we will go into section number two in which I will pull out randomly three selected questions from this handy dandy little Mason jar and ask each of the candidates or direct each of those questions to one of the candidates. So each of the candidates will answer first to one of those questions and they will have two minutes for their answer and then each of the other candidates will have a one minute rebuttal opportunity. Once we're finished with those three questions. The third section will involve the candidates themselves asking question a question each of the other two. The person who asked the question will have 30 seconds to frame that question so it's not a speech. And then each of the two respondents will have two minutes and finally the person who asked the question will have an opportunity to respond with one minute will then go into the closing statements which as I mentioned will be one minute each as well. So without further ado I would like to say that the order for the opening again randomly chosen will be Janice Weber going first and then followed by Patty saw tell and finally Julie Brazil. So I'd like to get going on that right away. You have one minute for your opening statement Janice Weber. Hi my name is Janice Weber. I'm currently the assistant town clerk in Arlington. I have worked for the town for 23 years 14 as the assistant registrar and the last nine as the assistant town clerk. I grew up in Arlington we moved here in 1954 and I've lived here except for the first seven years we were married we lived insomable then we moved back to Arlington. I enjoy working where I am it's been hectic because of this coronavirus but I've been at work every day this week and I've worked sometimes till 10 o'clock at night because there's just so much more to do than there was before. I hope to update the clerk's office as I've hoped far before but as I've only been the assistant I haven't been able to do it and a lot of people want us to do online online transfers which we can't do until we have permission from the treasurers and other offices but I hope to get more updating done what if I am elected and thank you. Thank you very much Patty. Thank you James. I'm running for town clerk because I truly have a passion for technology and public service. I'm currently a technology project manager for the town of Arlington where I've worked since 2009. I will use my municipal financial technology and operations experience to make a difference for the people in Arlington. Other candidates are going to talk about modernization ideas however I'm the only candidate who has actual experience modernizing municipal business practices. I also have operations experience including managing large scale food clinics in multiple locations and with volunteers. I have the most financial experience having managed operating budgets and capital requests. There are so many opportunities to improve customer engagement whether it's online transactions social media presence are just being out in the community and I have experience doing all of that. Clear vision for where we need to go to provide technology information and education to our community. As I said in my candidate profile my goal is to balance that small town customer service with strong technology. Thank you very much. Thanks and Julie present. Thank you first to ACMI for holding this virtual debate and to Patty and Janice for joining in. I'd also like to thank the viewing audience for participating in our local election by watching to learn about the candidates and then voting on or before Saturday June 6. I'm running to build a sense of partnership and to make the clerk's office a place where people feel they are working with Town Hall. If you like visiting in person to ask a question or if you prefer to email or file a form online you should choose what works for you. I know people want more timely information about town meeting candidates and I'm looking forward to making that happen and I'm excited to collaborate with other town employees to upgrade streamline and integrate to make the office more efficient. I'm Julie Brazil and I'm grateful for this opportunity to share my ideas. Thank you very much and we are going to proceed for right into the first section which is again one question posed to all three candidates the order in which you will respond is the order in which you appear on the ballot that set that saying that Julie Brazil will go first then Janice Weber and finally Patty Satel. The question is simple and direct. What makes you the best candidate for this job. Great question. Please excuse me. I'm sorry if you can please be very specific. Thank you. Okay. So I have a long track record of managing as a volunteer complex projects in Arlington like the town survey that's given me the opportunity to collaborate with a lot of other volunteers and staff in Town Hall to make a project of that magnitude happen. Coordinating volunteer hours working with the finance committee or town staff to find additional funding when survey software costs rose unexpectedly. That work on the survey in particular has given me a lot of insight, reading the comments from residents on what they need what they hope for what confuses them even about our town government and how we how town meeting works and and their ability to understand how to internet interact with their town meeting representatives that's very confusing for a lot of people. So I'm coming to this with great desire to increase public engagement that's been a strong motivator for me the past 20 something years I've been volunteering in Arlington. So I have a vision for the kind of office I think Arlington deserves the clerk's office is is a place that a lot of people in Arlington interact with it brings a lot of people to Town Hall or to that part of the town website. I think it's important that we be we'd be proactive in the information that we get out to people and not simply reactive. So I think we can do a lot of work to upgrade the process is in the office always focusing on putting the needs of residents first. I think it's important that that we take the information from residents that we understand from things like the survey and put it to best use. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Dennis. Well, I think experience counts for any job and the town clerk's office especially thrives on the experience I've been the assistant registrar for 14 years as I said, which no other town clerk has ever been before. So I know that department pretty well. And I definitely like to have the people come into the office. It's nice talking to them. They like to be here. They haven't been there for years. Even on the phone, we have conversations about the town. So I think the town clerk's office is very close to the people in town and the residents who lived here before. And I think we're welcoming to them and we try to help them in any way we can. We get questions all day long on the telephone and emails and we give the answers that we can. And we try to help everyone all the time and I think that it is welcoming. And I also agree with both of the other girls about the upgrading of the technology in the office. But that's something that has to, a lot of it has to go through capital planning because of the cost. And some of it can only be done through the agreement with the treasurer's office and things like that. And it costs a lot of money for the citizens to pay for their online payment. So it's cheaper to buy a stamp actually. And we have upgraded, especially the dog licenses and the birth certificates and death certificates are online. And we try to keep up with the website as much as possible on the end that we have to do. And the girls in the office, there's two new girls, so they're just learning the ropes now, but they're doing a great job. And as I said, I've been there since the lockdown and now they're coming in one day at a time to do some of the work that needs to get done for the absentee ballots because this is a tremendous job this time because of the amount of people who obviously are voting absentee. And as I said, it's very, very nice. Thank you. Sorry, we're run out of time. Thank you very much, Janice. And on to you, Patty. Thank you, James. So as I mentioned in my opening remarks, I am a technology project manager. It's clear that we need change in the town clerk's office. And that is going to be largely technology based. I have implemented successfully online transactions for health and human services and I will do the same for the town clerk's office. I have the operations logistics financial experience. I've done capital projects. I've worked with multiple operating budgets. So I want to say that the next town clerk needs to be very different. You need to have somebody who can engage in the community. If you want to know what the residents think, we need to go to them. Right. We cannot as I had stated in my original presentation. We need to be proactive. We should be proactive and out in the community. So that means that if you want to know what the pain points are, and the information needs for seniors, go where they are. Right. Work with the council on aging the senior association. Work with the senior housing. If you want to know the needs of folks that are maybe underrepresented, that means working with those groups means working with the housing authority, even things like setting up office hours. The town clerk should be about information and education. Right. The same thing is Arlington eats. What a great opportunity to partner with them. Same thing set up table and chair, if you will, to provide information and education to the community. So I clearly have the experience on the municipal side more than any of the other candidates for sure. I also have a very clear vision. And I will say I've already started a 90 day action plan to move forward with on multiple facets. Social media being one of those. That's just low hanging fruit. It's super easy to get started and provide information to the to the residents about customer service. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you. And we'll move right into a section two. Again, a reminder, this is the suspenseful section in that I will now draw the question. Randomly, the first question is going to be directed initially to Janice Weaver, and you will have two minutes to respond and then Patty will go next and Julie third each with one minute. So pulling out the first question again directed to you, Janice. What are your plans for modernizing the clerk's office, either through technology or other means. Well, as I said before, where we want online payments for things, but we have to get together with the town offices to do that. We can't do that on our own. We've asked for five years for things that we are unable to get. And as it stands now, the citizens have to pay more to get things online than they would if they put a stamp on an envelope. So for especially for things like the dog licenses, I've already conferred with the Treasurer's Office about that. And I'm welcome to any technology that we can get. And I'm going to put a capital in capital planning this year for some infrastructure that we need electricity and things like that for the state computers to be put on our desks rather than across the room. And it takes time, especially during the elections to go back and forth to answer the questions at the polling places. So that will be a good fix. And that's a few thousand dollars just to put the electricity into it. But a lot of that has to go into capital planning. I've already been told that. And I have over the years asked for different things and the town clerk's office just really needs the money to do a lot of the updating is scanning of the old records. A lot of the records have already been done by the state and they've put them on the computer. I think they're back to 1952. But we have, you know, records back to the 1600s that could be scanned in and we could have the one micro fish. And that's what we're hoping to do in the future. And as I said before, I was unable to do that because I wasn't the clerk. So I'm hoping to do that now if and when I am elected. Thank you. Thank you. Patty, you have a one minute rebuttal. Thank you. So my plans for modernizing are, you know, people talk about digitizing records. And he is only half of it. It's what's the upfront piece of software. So how do you actually search for a record if you scan it and you can't search it. It's not really helpful. I have successfully implemented online transactions. They did that eight years ago for health and human services. So I have no doubt that I'll be able to do that. As I said before, we truly need a social media presence. It's about information and education and providing that to the community. I'd also like to set up a kiosk in town hall, kind of like a self service center. We're all always going to be there at the town clerk's office. However, if there's somebody just wants to come in for a quick print out of something or a quick search of something, whether it's a meeting, when is that meeting taking place? Where is it located? So providing that information. I do want to say one thing that Jana said about the transactions being more expensive. That's not true. It's 25 cents for an ACA, which is less than the cost of a sale. Thank you very much. And Julie, you have also one minute. So we're all in agreement that there's a lot of updating and technology improvements that we can make in the office. And I have done some research on the solving the problem and digitizing the oldest records. And they do need to be made searchable. That would be an important part of the solution. And the logistics of a project like that are significant. And in terms of being sure that you never lose access to them if they're being scanned off site, if a request comes in. For me, as important as the technology is, and we all agree on that, I want to be sure that the work all starts with the end user who is the resident. The solutions need to reflect where people are. It can't all just be whizzy. It needs to be what people are looking for. Okay, thank you very much. Next question is going to be directed first to Patty, and then Julie will go second and Jen is third. And that is, what do you see as the primary mission or missions in purpose of the clerk's office and how do you plan to take a leadership role in accomplishing those. I think the town clerk's office is one of the most critical roles in town and I think it's truly the least understood role, because it is. It's responsible for your elections, your vital records, it's responsible for town meeting and making sure that warrants get filed with this with the state. There's community engagement. You know, being able to interact with the public provide technology. So, like I said, community outreach, having social media. So I think that I, all of my experiences from municipal experience is what I will bring to bring to the table. And I think it's going to be important to that those skills like we have the voting equipment, right, the clickers at town meeting uses that RP is up after this year. And I think we need somebody that is going to be able to write an RFP and to solicit to get either renewing a contract or getting a new vendor for that. So, I see this as a multifaceted position on that you need to have multiple skills, including technology, including leadership, I have managed multiple complex projects that involve millions hundreds of millions of dollars. So I have worked collaboratively with every single department in this town to successfully change the way that people work, change culture. So I see it as the totality of having operations logistics, municipal finance, and as well as having that leadership experience. I have led many projects and successfully implemented many projects, whether it was technology or just changing culture changing the way that people work. So I see it as the bigger picture with many skills. Thank you, Julie you have one minute rebuttal. So, yes, the clerk is the office is a is a sort of a focal point in town hall it's a place a lot of people need to interact because of the wide range of issues and matters before the clerk. I think focusing on elections is important. I think one thing we have learned from this whole experience is they were going to be changes to our elections, either driven by the work of the election modernization committee or just in response to this health crisis. So training election staff election workers who are in the polling places so that they can, they're confident in the new procedures. They're able to answer questions so that voting goes smoothly. Likewise, the information that we provide to residents about town meeting candidates is incredibly important and we have to get that information and contact information out to people in a timely fashion. Thanks very much. Well, our mission has always been to do the best we can for residents. And we would like to, as I said, you know, have online payments in the Treasurer's Office has stated to me that it does cost more for them to pay a lot of their bills, more than 25 cents. Also, we have already ordered the election equipment, which is part of it. That's the select board's department ordering the equipment, not ours. But the equipment has already been ordered and we were planning to have it for the September 1st primary because we wanted to wait till after the town election so we could get good training for the new people. And that's one of our biggest things we want to train the workers. They haven't had a lot of training and the state does bring out people and Karen and I in the registrar's office have gone to training. And this one particular girl is excellent. So that's another thing that we would like to start doing for the election department. And the third and final question in this section will be directed to you, Julie. With Jada Stex and then Patty third. What is one thing that you would say that the clerk's office already does well. And one thing that you think needs improvement. I think that elections are run smoothly in Arlington and there is a lot involved in putting on an election. And so I appreciate the time and effort that the clerk staff and other town hall staff and any election workers put into to that important service. I think it is also to the clerk's office credit that there's more information posted on the website now and there has been in the past about the candidates for office and I think that's very helpful in increasing public engagement. I'm glad to hear that Janice is making plans for training. I do think there's a lot of work that we can do and obviously we have to train election workers on new technology so that they can use the equipment. I would take it farther I think the town could do a lot more training of election staff and I would certainly look forward to to designing these training programs on on both voting procedures I have seen comments from from residents in the survey about sort of inconsistent answers and then people get very confused and so I would certainly want to be sure that election workers have accurate information and confidence that they know the answers. There's there's always an unusual circumstance. And I think it's important to plan for that. In addition, I do think that Arlington's focus as a fairly progressive town is on fair and accessible elections. And so I think we have to look in to anti bias training to be sure that there are not inadvertent conversations and questions that can be scary for voters. Thank you. Janice your one minute rebuttal. Thank you Julie for the cutos. We the training should come from the state because the woman who comes from the state knows all of the answers and can answer all of our questions and she's the best person to train not one of the people in the registrar's all the clerks office so that's what we're planning to do. And we did get new poll pads for early voting I don't know if either of you voted early but we have these new pads that just flip out your name and everything and it moved along much smoother than it had in the past and we're using those and we're probably going to get more of them for other elections. And I would like to I keep saying this and I know everyone wishes it would happen but I wish we would reduce the number of precincts because that's just it's ridiculous and it's hard to find places for people to go and especially in this time. We don't even know where seven and nine are going yet because the is just not me and it was closed. So the select board and everyone is trying to find room for them so that's what we're that's where we're at at the moment. Thank you, Janice and Patty one minute. Okay, thank you. So in terms of the things that the town clerk's office does well. I would say that the women in the office, although new are very friendly they're very accommodating. I, you know, I agree that we do need to provide additional training whether that's on software procedures policies, but they are a group that's hungry for the tools, and to make their jobs better to allow them to provide even better customer service but they're a lovely group. And I look forward to working with them on, you know, the elections, it's, you know, a collaboration certainly with the select board's office. I say kudos to Janice the Polpads I thought were great on, you know, they we had two of them. I think they worked great in terms of the enhancements. I'm repeating myself it's technology technology technology. Thank you very much. Moving right into section three and this is a reminder that each of the candidates will have a chance to ask the other to a question we're going to start with you patty asking the first question and the order of response will be Julie first and Janice second Julie and Janice will both have two minutes to respond and then patty you will have a one minute rebuttal or response opportunity. So, please proceed. Thank you. So it's clear that technology and change are needed in the town clerk's office. Describe a project we manage your employees and introduce a new technology. Describe how you changed employee culture successfully to implement the new technology to your staff. Okay, and Julie you are first. Okay. So, obviously, I have never been an employee of the town. I've been an unpaid volunteer managing some pretty complicated projects like the town survey so that's that's the example I will use. Yes, when you are working with employees or volunteers and the technology changes. There is a lot of work that goes into that we had to purchase new software a few years ago to facilitate scanning and interpreting the data, because the old software had become vastly out of date. Yes, it requires a lot of research and a very, very detail oriented approach, which I'm comfortable with. I really like writing training manuals, and you have to, you have to be very thoughtful to sort of the skill set of the volunteers or employees that you're working with. You have to give them enough information, the right information. Be sure you're not giving them information they don't need if they're doing a step. You know, sort of one step in the process they don't need to be distracted by details from another step and I've learned a lot over the years, working with volunteers on how to be attentive to those kinds of changes. I do recognize the importance of sort of managing staff. Very carefully, particularly with volunteers they, they don't have to come back. And so I feel I have a great deal of experience, making sure that staff are happy and and and that's important to me I think teams go better when that's true. Thank you. And Janice, you also have two minutes to respond. Okay. The technology that we have to not develop, but we've gotten in in the town clerk's office in the past with the help of Adam Karolski was the new dog license applications and how to obtain the license and send it in and we send out. Now we send it out mostly by email, which saves a lot of money, obviously on postage. So that's one of the first things that we've done. As I said, we're trying to get online payments but we don't know when that would be happening. And what was your question about the, the staff that you said, Patty didn't get that. So to repeat it, just how you have changed employee culture to successfully implement new technology. You mean culture of their, their culture. I don't know. I don't know what you mean by that. So the work process, the way that people work. All right. Well, actually what I have done as that I wanted to institute a long time ago anyway was have everyone learn everybody else's job because when I was in the registrar's office I never went on vacation because it was nobody in there but me. And I didn't want to come back to weeks worth of work so I just never went away. I'm trying to have all of the girls integrate their jobs with each other and learn. I don't know if that's supposed to be done through the union or not but the girls don't seem to mind to do it because they don't, they don't want to sit there doing nothing some of the days. So what that's what I'm trying to do is integrate everybody's job so everyone knows everyone else's when they're not there anymore. That's mostly what I've done. And there isn't a lot of technology but I am trying to get it. All done. Yes. Thank you. And Patty one minute to respond. Thank you James. So I think the thing to keep in mind with the town clerks town clerk is that this is a leadership management department head level position. And so having someone who has an array of skills for technology for training for operations is really going to be key. I have spent the last several years implementing new technologies and also changing business practices so they may not be a technology involved but changing the way that people work and doing it successfully. I also having managed the flu clinics for a number of years. I have trained hundreds of volunteers. I've worked logistics in terms of mapping out how the clinic should be set up the flow of people the flow of information and equipment. So I have a clear clear track record of implementing new technologies and I'll bring that to the town clerk's office. Thank you very much. The second question in this section will be posed by Julie and answered first by Janice and then by Patty. Voting is important to our town state and federal democracy, but we don't see the numbers that we'd like. How would you make it easier and increase registration and turnout, particularly for the people who have difficulty voting in our current system. Okay, well, I think we've done a lot. The state mandates on different ways that we can have people register to vote and we're getting to the point where they're probably we're probably going to be delivering the registrations to their home soon, but that's just a joke. But we do have a lot more a lot more ways to have people register to vote. They can vote online. They can vote the registry of motor vehicles actually practically votes for registers for them. That is a little problem because we have many duplicates and we mail out registrations when anyone calls and we give them information of how to obtain it online. So I think that there are multiple opportunities and the high school usually does a voting day at the school for those children and people that are 16 now can actually register and they don't get their registration until they're 18 when they go to the registry. So other than just sending out notices to everybody, I think that there's been a there has been a lot of registrations. I mean, Karen has done probably a thousand since the last election registering people. She still has pages and pages that she gets every day to register them. So I think that it's it's pretty well known if it isn't. I don't know why because every agency everywhere in the state gives people the opportunity to register to vote because we get things every day from state offices and different agencies and the RMV. So I really don't know how much more we could do for people to register. Okay, thank you very much. And Patty also two minutes to respond. Would you mind repeating the question. Yes, voting is important. I'm going to make it shorter, but we don't always see the turnout we'd like. How would you make it easier increase registration and turnout, particularly for people who have difficulty voting in the current system. Great. Okay, thank you. So I think it's a multi pronged approach. As I mentioned earlier, I think you need to be out in the community. So whether it's office hours as the housing authority working with Arlington eats. It's working with the Council on Aging the senior association all the senior housing. We're going early voting. I think we should pilot same day voter registration. I think that's a great opportunity to test it out. Do it as a pilot, maybe in a smaller election. I think we push particularly in this, this election, it's going to be absentee voting is going to be what rules the the election. Janice is absolutely right about the the RMV and there are opportunities for online voting. The one thing I will say is that again to throw that technology in there is that, yes, there the clerk's office receives the RMV list in its constant duplications. But what you do is use technology to deduplicate those and then you just have who the new people are will make that process so much easier and in in a streamlined. We also think that when it comes to voting in the locations. One of the things we did successfully with the flu clinics is have an ambassador. So for that spoke, whatever the primary language was so we have some non English speaking residents. We're being able to offer information either in multiple languages or have an ambassador there that can do some translation that worked out really well. So I think it's again it's a multi prong approach. You know we have 43,000 people we have about 32,000 people that are registered. You know what's clear is that the local elections get a low turnout about 1516%, but then when you look at some of the state primaries, our state elections, it goes up 6070%. So that's another thing to keep in mind is the local elections have less voters. Thank you very much. And Julie one minute. So my perspective on this is voters tell us over and over again and it's particularly true in town elections. They just, they won't vote if they don't, they don't understand the issues they don't know who the candidates are. We have to as a community find solutions for that problem may not be possible for the clerk's office to sort of do all of the work because of the way election laws work, but I'm very open to and dedicated to the idea of collaborating with volunteers with Envision Arlington and the League of Women Voters have been trying to fill in that gap, make sure that we're getting information on statements from Canada that's running for town meeting. Because it's incredibly difficult to find and voters aren't going to just do all of the work themselves. We have to help them. That would be a goal of mine. Thank you. And third question in this section will be posed by Janice and first to Patty, followed by Julie. Okay, I'd like to know how you feel about the UO CAVA voters. I'm sorry I didn't hear you. The UO CAVA voters that's a big department in the town clerk's office. I'm not hearing what the word is. Could you spell it in an acronym. Yes, it's a uniform and overseas citizen absentee voting act. Oh, okay, so military and overseas states do it differently. I'll start again. Okay, so military and overseas voters states do it differently. Some states allow online voting for military folks overseas. They allow for returning ballots by fax or by email. So clearly we do need to have the folks that are overseas be able to still have the right to vote. It's kind of an obscure question in that I'm actually not sure what Massachusetts does to be to be honest. I know that states like Alaska, I have been doing some research on the online voting do allow for online voting. We seem to technology wise be a little bit behind. So I'm not sure if we do allow online voting for overseas folks, I'd be willing to bet it's probably more of the mailing them a ballot, email or faxing them a ballot. I'm not sure even what more to say about that. Okay, thank you very much. Julie, two minutes. Yes, it is a slightly obscure question. But I mean, like all questions about voting it goes to the heart of the issue which is, we have to find solutions to make sure that the people can vote. I mean, that's the fundamental goal of all of the rules involved in state and local and federal elections. So the process may need to change. Honestly, if the process isn't working if the clerk's office believes there's a flaw in the system, then we should we should fight to change the relevant laws. There's no, there's nothing that says you can't go to the state and ask for changes. I think we're going to be doing that in Arlington a lot. Potentially based on some of the recommendations from the election modernization committee. So, you know, tackling things higher up the food chain is is often part of the process. I've been to the State House I've testified at hearings. On behalf of legislation, I believe in I've lobbied legislators for their vote on on issues. And I think we have a great delegation, our state representatives and state senator are excellent partners for solving any problem related to voting and and making adjustments in Arlington to vote the way we want. And thank you very much. And Janice one minute to respond. Okay, just to let you know, we've had online voting for the you'll cover voters for years and they do. They can email their ballots and their applications into the office. And we can email the ballots out to them. That was the job that I did in the registrar's office but I do it now as the assistant town clerk because it is a lot of work and there are a lot of other country voters. However, our own town we can't email the ballot we have to snail mail it and I have to find out why because it doesn't make any sense to me that we can't email that ballot. So we have had that technology for a long time. The problem is that it would be better if we had both computers on our desks, the state and the regular computer because you can't email from the state computer. So you have to fill in all the information on one computer system and then go over to your your own computer to email the information to the voters. So that's a technology I'm trying to change by having our computers move to our desks. Thanks very much. And just like that, we arrive at the final section of the debate. Each of the candidates will have one minute for a closing statement and the order of those statements will be Julie Brazil followed by Patty Sautel and then Janice Weber. So without further ado Julie one minute for your closing statement. Thanks. So I've been volunteering for nearly 30 years, and most of my energy in that time has revolved around the importance of people feeling connected to their town and empowered to participate. Managing the town survey for Envision Arlington has given me the opportunity to listen to and learn from residents. So I have a clear vision for the potential in the clerk's office. I'd like to work with the election modernization committee to implement changes to voting so that our community is living up to our ideals of small town democracy with informed residents who are given every opportunity to participate in their government. Please visit my website for information on earlier absentee voting during this health crisis. You do not have to vote in person if you feel it would be unsafe. I'm first on the ballot look for my full name Juliana H Brazil, and I'd be honored by your vote on Saturday June 6. Thanks very much, Patty. Thank you James. So I appreciate Julie's volunteer efforts. But I do question whether as you look to enter the workforce that your first job should be a department head leadership management position, particularly in these unprecedented times. The collection cycle in the need for technology based change that we so desperately need in the town clerk's office. Janice does have the day to day administrative clerical aspects of the department. But again, this is a leadership management position. Personally, I like Janice. And if I thought she had the technology leadership and management skills, I wouldn't run against her. If this were a job interview, and we were the three candidates, I will say that 100 out of 100 times, I would be selected as the most qualified management person. And the only candidate again, technology, the municipal operations, logistics and finance experience. Only candidates will have to stop there. Sorry about that. Janice. Well, first of all, it's nice to see both of you girls and thank you for ACMI for doing this. I do think that I can learn a lot of the aspects that need to be learned in technology. I know I'm older and it's a little harder for me to learn, but my office staff is really one of them is quite adept at that. And speaking of bilingual, one of our office staff is bilingual and she's been a big help in the office with the people. And I think the town clerk's office needs to always be remain non-partisan, so we shouldn't really get into telling people what candidates are like. There should be a spot where they can find that information, but I don't think they should be asking in the town clerk's office because we aren't supposed to be involved in that aspect of elections. And I just hope my experience in the years in the office will allow you to vote for me for the town clerk. And thank you very much. Thank you to all three of you and that will do it for today's debate. But before we sign off, there are other, there are all kinds of well deserved things to be paid. First, again, to the candidates themselves, thank you for participating and for your patience and adaptability with the new circumstances. Thanks also to our ACMI crew who are operating very diligently behind the scenes and work prodigiously to make all this possible under the extraordinary current circumstances we all find ourselves in. And finally, thanks to you for taking the time to tune in and inform yourselves in advance of the election that's upcoming on June 6. You can access the current debate and the debates for other offices that will take place over the coming weeks, as well as candidate profiles in any of several ways. They are airing regularly on our government channel, and you can also access them at your convenience on our website at ACMI dot TV slash elections. And lastly, you can also find more useful information about the candidates in the voters guide on the Arlington League of Women Voters website at www.LWVA.com. On behalf of ACMI and the candidates for town clerk, I thank you all for joining us. I'm James Milan, and we'll see you next time.