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All right now the other things we wanted to talk about today is going to be True nas so we're gonna jump right in on that because there's a lot of Well, you know, there's something that I didn't understand and maybe that I overlooked this somewhere but this is the we're gonna talk a little about the new true nas release and It's cool that they got a new version out, but I have kind of a Problem and can someone point me to this and feel free if you're watching this in post and point it and leave a comment down below I Assumed improperly, maybe a few of you did too that when they said we're going to be releasing True nas scale and when he released it and it was 22 dot oh too I was figuring they're following the standard Linux cycle of releases that you see in other Distributions such as a bun two where we put the year and then the month so we know when it was released I love that naming schema Microsoft has even decided to adopt it with some of their updates, which is great So I like when the naming schema follows like that, but now they have a new release and it's still 22 oh two Dot two and um, I don't know What did I miss on that that that's the naming scheme because it feels like it should be what is it June? So it should be 22 oh six But I guess it's not it's 22 oh two dot two so Yeah, I don't know that's a weird naming scheme they had for it But it is just it's another update to specifically true nas scale Now true nas core is still following There's the where's the core in here. This is all scale release notes True nas core so follows it's at version 13 right now the true nas core the 13 Isn't just the 13 version like in naming it's more it's based on bsd 13 I believe is how they're naming that one there So it's a little bit different how they name it in core as long as the two names are easy enough Even though they have different names someone will just call it sometimes true nas 13 or true nas 22 You know, which one you're talking about. I think that part's relatively important so No big deal, but just a minor complaint about it now Someone had messaged me about having problems and you know reach out to us for help with some kubernetes problems And I crashed I really haven't spent enough time with it. I've crashed it more than I've got it working So I'm look, you know this version. I loaded fresh again to do some more tests But there's still a lot of improvements and things that got fixed, but it feels like there's still a lot of bugs in here and There's other people with similar problems with the things not working. I really Someone says when using kubernetes gooey slows down to a crawl for a few minutes Doesn't automatically use let's encrypt certificates Becomes unresponsive when installing some apps. This is one I've run into with it previously I just don't feel like it's production ready. I think people should play with it. I think it's a cool product I don't think I would run production workloads on it right now with true nas scale So it's exciting that they're working on it. I understand its use case very much So I think that's really cool Yeah, I get that it's a second update to the february 2022 release But I don't know. I just feel I don't maybe I'm just weird and think it should be named that way. I'm not an expert on that it feels like It I don't know. I guess it still has the same name. So isn't it called angel fish? I believe So I know that's what they're doing, but I still I don't know it feels like they should just Give it a new name branch out for 2022 This one's called what I think it's still referred to Where's the naming in here? Wasn't called. Yeah angel fish release. So Still referred to as angel fish. So I guess you're right. It's just an update to that But nonetheless Here we are with updates Um, now, let's actually look at it. I did do and we can pull up the dashboard here We'll log into it Look wise. It's pretty much the same. I'll admit this though The one thing I noticed is when I loaded some of the applications like I set up This these worked actually these seem to install way faster than you did last time without pausing and hanging up I haven't done much. I just loaded net data and next cloud just real quick to see if it worked It worked. I was like cool success Um, I didn't go a lot further without logging into the dashboard to see if it works But the real thing a lot of people want to know about And this is the I'll do I'm going to do a more complete video on this tomorrow. I'll have it released uh, but These are the statistics and here someone will want them. We'll throw them in the link here in the chat But I'll be doing a video on it tomorrow but The question people have is how does it perform and people seemed upset last time that I didn't do any testing with I scuzzy so this time I did You'll have to ignore the fact that I had a typo in here. It says trueness core 13 zfs I meant nfs so I tested nfs and ice because he for each test so Run down all the list here and here's scale still on small block size writes just Can't keep up. It's just not as fast and not as performance. It kind of depends on your workload So here's your iopset 4k your small block size performance is just Not good on there. So if you have something that needs to write a lot of small blocks It's not oddly slightly faster On the one meg not a lot slightly thought that was kind of cool But then back over here to 4k uh block performance these small writes are just It's just killer on it 4k 4k which ones these are 8k so 4k block 8k block better performance, but still not great um, what else do we have here 128k block? Neck and neck so it really only seems to have hang ups with um Well, 128k still not great, but it's a small file writes that seem to really Cause it to have performance issues. I mean these are so close It's almost within margin of error 1088 1079. So once you get to these larger one meg block sizes Most of the time it can handle it pretty well, but when you get down to some of the other ones you can see It's never really the winner On any of these it just doesn't It doesn't crush it. It loses quite a bit But if your workload isn't that the none of that matters That's one of the problems some people have is I you know is about what is the workloads you're going to run That is a huge deterministic factor of what technology you need what performance you need. Um, yeah, that's just Where the big deal is right there, so Do you know if xc offloads? Operation to the storage appliance um I don't know I think so. I think certain things because there is um, what is that called? Then ice cozy copy I think like certain ice cozy functions can um But that's That's mostly it it doesn't I guess what what are you trying to ask? More specifically, what is the function that you would like offloaded? So I understand a better question there Yeah, it it may not We'll go with I'm not unless I'm really clear on the ask like For example, if you have an ice cozy system that's aware Um and can offload certain workload. Uh, what is that called? it's Little bit like ice because he's the only one I know it does it and I I think that's true for vmware too I don't know that vmware can do Uh All the work all the things on there. What do you call it the vmware vaii? So So we'll look up windows odx I think these are ice cozy commands. Am I correct? It's offload data transfer for storage Uh, but I believe This is it. I'm look I'm look on the page right now I believe this is supported so we'll pull it up and throw it in a window here for people that are wondering It's the offload of data transfer and it's a way that Certain applications can talk to the storage to make the function happen at the storage level as opposed to being handled through um The virtual dispassing it through the vm. It's kind of an obscure thing. I don't know how well supported That is in there. So I Posted in their forums is going to be my answer for that So it's kind of a little bit different Way of handling it. What was the other one you said for I because I'm not a vmware person. So it's vmware vaii Pull that one up uh See if there's windows mentioned ice cozy in here Is for ice cozy as well. Yes Ice cozy and fiber channel. So These parameters applied only to there are only there were no via for nas storage and it's really sweet here Blah blah blah. It's just a way to tell ice cozy to talk to the different drives Uh in between so Um, let me pull up the Which one of us here? There we go There it is in vSphere There it is for the ice cozy. So yeah, it's just part of it on there So you also have to have that your ice cozy target has to support this as well Or fiber channel whatever using as a target on the back end has to be able to support it So it's not just a matter of does Zen or your hypervisor support it. It's does the other things supported to Um, and they're only for certain functions. It's not it's not like it's a performance, uh, offloading thing so nonetheless Oh, let's see here Back to true nas um Let me probably blog back in the true nas too People love to talk about ha clustering Unfortunately, and this is something I just tweeted today I I think they need to do a better clarification because even if you go to their announcement page And we'll pull let's actually find their announcement page on this Because they tweeted it today and so many people have questions. I don't know why they don't just make it clear uh go to notifications and Because window liked my well I think it's funny window window liked my reply because me and him both use true nas and we both had The same question like why don't you offer clarification on exactly how this works? So They you know put in headlines smb clustering. So let's go ahead and pull that up chair screen true nas scale adds smb clustering but This release component new functionality Uh provides clusters you can only get this to work When you subscribe to their true command server and then tie the servers to it So you have to have multiple true nas scale systems Then you have to tie it to true command in order to get it to work. So it's kind of a It's not like you just set it up locally now. You can host true command locally. It does require a license So the software it's kind of it. It's just a clarification I think they need to say you need to license true command You need to set up true command get your servers tied to it then these options become available so it's kind of a Uh, you know, it's not just connect to servers together and they're clustered It's using Yet a third service now that service can run the the true command service Can run as a docker container within true nas scale as well They that's one of the delivery models or they have a hosted option for it where they do hosting for true command It's got demos. You can set up and things like that for true command. It's a slick system I've played with it some I didn't have a real need for it myself. That's why I don't use it in production But it's cool. It's needs. It's a good way to monitor all of your systems Here's the example if you wanted to create a thick provision disk Would hand the storage appliance like true nas for from the block searing instead of the host The block searing doesn't take that long we can go to Zen server In provision things quite fast. So Um, I don't think that's like the big deal But maybe i'm wrong about how it works Because I don't know let's go ahead and uh, I got too many things open. So i'm closing a few of them So many things i'm looking at here share screen chrome tear so You know if I wanted to create a new pool um We'll select a template like I don't know a bunch you YouTube test See what do we want? Probably not this template doesn't rule us do this one here. Here we go Well, it doesn't matter what template I use that's not the point but You know three cpus uh We're gonna choose Schizy we want a 100 gig scuzzy drive And to eat live server create All right, it's created The disk zeroed out. I don't know what it would need to do that's faster than that. It's already ready to boot and running So now I can start installing here. I'm not sure what the extra thing I needed done. It's provisioned This is I only have 200 gigs on this particular ice because yeah, this is the same uh extent I just used for testing. So I it doesn't really need to spend a lot of time on Uh doing that. So it just kind of happens instantly so Oh not really a derail. These are good questions You know, I think everyone gets to learn from them. I just don't understand Why I need them that's always my question is why do I need it? What is it? What am I missing if it doesn't do it? So Are you using core or scale? I use both Kind of production. I only use core scale I've been playing with it the latest version seems more stable But as I pointed out earlier in a video it's not as fast at a bunch of overall performance and More than anything else. We use a lot of true nas as storage targets for our virtualization So because it's doing storage for virtualization. I care a lot more about performance and not about docker If you care a lot about the docker and the implementation they did for running applications true nas scales got some cool implementations for that But unfortunately, I there's some forum posts right now about people And it going wrong. So because it just seems to be some instability of it. So it's yeah Do you also have your scale interface lagging out after a while? I seen that was a complaint people had was a scale interface lagging out um I don't I don't use it enough For that to be an issue Well, I gotta go probably forget what I made there we go force shutdown My youtube test and I'm gonna unprovision it and remove it. So If not, I end up creating a lot of things that I forgot that I created and then go, why did I make that? So that's why I gotta Delete it before I forget. All right now. I can move on to there. Um I ever really had a ton of problems with the interface. It seems to work But I know there's people complaining about it lagging out. I do know this was a problem when you go to the apps Um I did find this kind of weird. So if you're here and installed apps But then you go to available apps settings Advanced I can edit this. Here's your kubernetes settings. But if you're here That doesn't come up and I don't know why Thought that was odd. I'm like, I can't get to the advanced. It's broken. Then I'm like, oh I can get to the advanced So I think it's weird. There's installed or managed catalogs advanced And it doesn't work here either. So there's still some little quirkiness to it. I would say uh Yeah, I don't know. Yes Scales running much smoother my system so far. I've only tried it now. We tried um What in the early days of scale before it got released We found it to be a little buggy with some of the large deployments that we had tested on Um, and I just got sick of reloading things because I was testing out my 45 drive server And it just got to be a lot of problems um It wasn't yeah Self-services in architecture. I don't know. I don't really use it Um, it's the way you can assign some resources to groups in self-serve. I don't really use it So I learned more about infrastructure progressively confused by running apps on an s sand If you do it all in the server didn't just run linux um It depends. I mean, I like the the ability to better use your resources and especially, um, I don't see it in this list here But one of the things that makes a lot of sense to run in one system is uh, like gray log So you if you're using gray log, it's a you know, very robust logging application But if you put gray log directly on the same server where your storage is that it needs to store because it needs so much storage There I can see some conveniences for things like that More likely though the most popular use case for true nas scale is the home user market who needs a lot of Things like you know running plex and all their movies and stuff like that. So I think that's we're running mb Those are really solid use cases for it Um, I didn't load yet and I don't know if I will on this one The extra catalog of things because that takes a long time to load and that's where I found more uh problems so But the built-in applications that are supported like net data and uh next cloud these worked fine so, uh getting through to here Let me actually go back over and get it logged in. I didn't any problem getting this working This worked fine setting it up worked fine Uh going into the dashboard and loading up the data. All of that was fine. So that really hasn't um there Oh, this is everybody's favorite question right here Any issues with true nas virtual versus bare metal? Um, I've had people lose see people contact us after they lose all of their data. Hopefully they can get it back I'm sorry That virtual install that caused all those problems where you lost all your data I don't know So then someone else will go get their cap sock ready and say but it works fine in my environment You're adding an extra layer of complexity Virtualizing it means more complexity more chances for error. I don't recommend it for production I don't recommend it unless you have a backup and are ready to execute your backup plan Is it a fun idea to run everything on one server or as wendell from level one text calls it the forbidden router? Yes, it's kind of cool to do that. Um, because it's good use of resources. So I think it's a fun project It's a project that comes with risk as long as you are aware of those risks away you go If I existence makes a bigger investment in vm controls, do you think true nas can eventually be replaced by xcb and g? I doubt it the investment they would have to make is far greater than I think they can make I could be wrong about that, but I'm pretty doubtful. I don't see Where xcp and g is in terms of features versus where they are now They are just forever apart. So I don't really see it as a viable alternative There's just I don't I don't foresee them really putting the level of investment It would take to make that happen. So For my use case much better to have one energy efficient to do it all then separate nas and app server on its own Yeah, and this is those are good reasons to do it I understand the reasoning to consolidate everything in there and I actually might make a video because I liked when bill's video on his, uh Forbidden router, but he didn't cover something. I don't remember if he covered all the details about set it up So I thought I might do a video on it. I understand completely uh You know the the reasoning behind it so to speak of consolidation and efficiency I completely think those are really good reasons. So If you don't much testing with vms on scale sound core and curious what vm came to those home users I don't even use vms on core. I don't know if I'm going to use them on scale Um, I always found the vm system in core to be buggy. I don't know where it's at on scale I just know people were chiming in under some type of broken vnc problem with it right now Sorry Sorry and raid but as Jeff Gehrling would say treat your server like cattle. Not sure how many farms you have. You only have one cow Uh Yeah, I still haven't finished my uh, I didn't just been Stop, I didn't feel like doing any more construction. So there's still no toilet in my studio I don't I'm good with that though Any harm in wringing true nascent service whose raid controllers don't have hb mode, uh, it probably won't work properly or work well That's some detailed research, uh, really unbenefit Eager zero thick provisioning, which I don't think it does in cloning very large virtual disc Yeah, it's kind of my point too is it doesn't really Um, I I don't I don't really have the need for it. So It's kind of an edge use case Okay, someone knows more about it than me. I just haven't used it It's self-service as the equivalent to vmwares v realize I wasn't usually picked from templates to quickly spin up and tear down vms based on groups Yeah, I've I've not used it It's one of those things that I uh said maybe one day I'll play with it, but you go over here self-service new and uh, you can choose pools and groups and networks to be able to Build out a lot of different things quantities like dip pools, etc, etc and Build out stuff on that. There's actually some really interesting things you can do in zen because this is even uh, you can connect terraform to this and Really build some automation around the zen orchestra tool. So I think it's pretty cool. They got a lot of this built in Um, but yeah, I haven't used it. So I can't really speak a lot to it Unraid is coming into my house. I don't know like anything that runs on usb. Oh Uh without you trying to find a way to reset the unify without using reset button Nope, you got to use the reset button. I'm sorry If you don't know the password you don't have the login you're gonna have to use the reset button All fun and games. So all the servers need to be milked at once It finally clicked for me that you're using true nas or another file system storing all your data You must back up that system snapshot. Yes, you need to back up everything That's the important part is that everything gets backed up. That's where it's super important is to do that um Back up all the things because you never know take, you know, we have snapshots of them I have backups that run to make sure these things get backed up like this is A constant to make sure all of this is done properly because yes, everything should have backups Even this even my lab when I'm running for onyx. Hey, look successful backup done on june 23rd because it needed a backup because sometimes I do dumb things and move disks where they shouldn't be or break something or All that kind of stuff. So Can that data hosted on one computer monitor multiple servers? They I don't think they have that functionality right now. So No, not at this time. You have to go into Each net data instance individually There's not a way to get them without using their cloud system There's not a way to get them all tied together for net data. So I still like that data great product But I don't know if they're going to be able if they're going to make something you could make something You could tie them all together pretty easily You can pull the web view out of all of them and put them in one dashboard if you want it So there's definitely ways it could be done. It's just not natively supported Um, the lr is probably the best one for home So that's I really like the uh lr model quite a bit Actually, we can do this I'll drop the link to Actually, the link to this is in the description Um, this is a link to all the different access points. We started listing them all out what all the features are I'm going to do a comparison video really soon. I have a couple more things to add I was going to do it this week and then this week when it happened. So but yeah, this is uh All the different stuff. Can I zoom in? No, it doesn't Uh, there's a link So we'll uh share publish the web Copy I'll throw it in here so people to click on and probably they can look at all the different access points They offer and things like that. So But yeah, the u6 lr has been pretty much my favorite That one works really well Put some pretty charts with zen orchestra on there Uh, what else was I was talking about today? I was talking about lots of things Uh The other one was full of these. Let's look at something prettier here Pull up the network I think it's 90 three got nine There we can see this this one looks cooler because we look at um, I actually should run another I need to run another backup, but we'll go ahead and do Last seven days because we can see when things are running. Hey, look, that's when tom runs the big backups These one took a little less. Maybe I was compiling something Let's go back to the last 30 minutes And I'm gonna kick off another backup Because someone reminded me of one of the backups. We had a power outage that stopped us from getting a backup. So Uh, do you also SIP cameras to give a solution to have camera 500 meters away from mvr? Use a pt bridge solar panels It measured a wattage if you have enough power through the solar panels and to power it should work See, I have one my unify one works all the way in my backyard. So The I have not had much of a problem with it um So here hoping up the monitors, but This is my backyard which is uh I don't know. I what is that maybe a hundred feet The wi-fi is 6 l rs in the basement I can go all the way here in my backyard and it works like I can go pretty far out there new problems. So I don't know Not many people ever asked for most people want to mount it not on a desk But you can always 3d print a stand to make any of them mount on a desk Uh, what cam so I recommend I have a video on that topic. So you are in luck. So let me um I'll actually drop it in here We like the amcrest cameras, but I'm gonna share I have a whole video where I Cover all of that because people always ask so I put it all in one video That's got all the it's got the cameras. I'm using how to set them up how to configure them and everything else. So Best way to keep everything up to date os s jails plugins vms. Uh, it's a lot but don't want to miss an important patch. Um The unattended upgrades is how most of them work, but it kind of depends everything Once you start getting into jails and vms. They have a completely different patch management system. So that's kind of vary a lot Uh, how those work. So I mean you got to run some some of them are just manual updates There's not an automated tool for it. So it really comes down to Is there a tool for what you're doing to keep it up to date? Um, for me our servers all have all the linux ones run unattended upgrades. They upgrade automatically in the background So actually I have a video on how to do unattended upgrades as well But it may not work for depending on what you're running of it supports it So we'll go ahead and throw this one in the pile of videos as well which is It's all about how to run unattended upgrades. So There you go. That's now in there as well It's a lot to do them. Uh, there's no doubt about that speaking of This is something we'll talk about now This is something i'm working on. Um Got to log in first too many things open close all the things And then we'll okay it did open in a new window figures There we go. I just set this up today It's not set up yet, but this is the new um This is the new surveillance station system by Synology the dva model. It's got the deep video analytics So I I just set it up So I haven't added the cameras to it But i'm going to be adding this and moving my cameras over to here So I can show you how all this works. It's got this it's got built in face recognition so you can create face recognition results and find all the people in the cameras and uh Create a face database of people and be able to find them. So I want to play around with it. This is a pretty slick system So I'll be doing some videos on that. It's uh, so now he's got it is coming along quite quite a bit with these They're pretty slick Have I tested the ip 56 of the unify lr because I just moved AP outside It will not be undercover or be open to the sky um I don't know. I don't know how good they're I don't know if they're really solid or not I I have not tested the weather rating on those what I have tested is your um unify mesh ones That what they call them like the outdoor mesh ones those ones we've got installed outside But not any we haven't tested the wi-fi six ones Yeah, the c2 um C2 cloud storage is pretty slick Uh for just in general whether you're using it for surveillance station or you're using C2 cloud storage for backups, uh We have a lot of people that really like the product. I only wish they had something that was multi-tenant so we could manage it We usually sell it to people Or set it up for people in a co-managed environment But we don't have time to manage it as our backup solution because it's it's not it's not set to be multi-tenant That's it's one flaw. Uh, they're working on it, but they aren't there yet. It isn't fixed yet But yeah, this is going to be cool once I have all this set up for the um extra features that this has Uh, it also does have this it's got the local display Um, when you buy the Synology specifically the nvr ones, uh, they have the dva model I should say they have um the option to plug in Uh an hdmi atom so you can actually get direct video out of them, which is pretty cool What else do they have in here? Transaction. Yeah, everything else is pretty much the same They're only the big differences really are the fact that they have these two things down here They have the deep video analytics and the face recognition. So that's the feature that's going to be pretty cool if they have on there Well, that face recognition on Solji work on rtsp stream. I don't know Uh, that's why I gotta do some research and find out. I'm going to plug in my amcrest cameras to it It's just they're just going to be using omvif. I have no idea if it'll work on rtsp My assumption is it's looking at the video not how the video got there. That's an assumption. I don't know until I test So that's going to be I'm excited to do the video and I'm excited to do all the testing on it. So that's uh Definitely pretty cool. Now. I also have in my possession The sysco stuff I finally got it. I finished my ingenious video and my testing and um project So I'm going to be testing all the uh sysco small business stuff people have been asking about it It's interesting. Um, I gotta see how good it works Or if it works as good as sysco claims I have an 18 year rack. I want to get this up in orange property I showed a video on home setups and a couple years old. It still sounds like any same anything you do different Not really. Um, when it comes to the hardware at a rack part, uh, there's not much that's changed on that So that that video still holds up. I think I have my most recent one Is less than maybe it is still two years old. I I have tarp trench equine track of these uh home DIY This one's a year old. So this is the video That I'll I'll drop a link to it Thank you for the correction. Cory Ohm vif is a discovery program. It was rtsp for video transfer. Yeah, I think whatever it uses in the back end actually streamed a video Um, but I threw a link in for my video. It's if you type in like home rack DIY on my channel, you'll find it It's the most recent version of some of the stuff Uh, yes sysco toys What's better unify your sonology? I don't know Uh, sonology is definitely way more features way more cameras Unify simplicity is on their side. So I won't lie man the um the overall simplicity of which the system works, uh Makes it compelling The unify nvr system. It's just simple There you can look what's going on in my office See the parking lot Taking a second to load this camera They're not using the grill today There we go. Oops Zoom in a little bit There we go These are at my office. This is over a vpn. It's so reasonably fast so, uh I I like it the sonology system's nice and so I don't think the unify system is bad at all If sysco delivers with sysco promise, would you use sysco device your business as an option? uh um I don't know because the problem is they already have license limitations. It's free to a limit I got to get those details right. I don't want to just quote them But they only offer like so many nodes for free before they hit licensing as I understand it. So They've already syscoed it like sysco can't help it, but to be sysco Hey, look, there was a kyle We'll go back over to the events and detections This is a cool job of finding people. There's there's kyle. I can recognize him from his hair There's steve There's all the car detection, but uh, yeah, sysco is still sysco. So Uh, what do you lose the label the cables in the rack? Uh Label printer Is it true that unify protect? Isn't good at exporting bulk recordings. Not really. I don't think it's great Um, have I messed a frigate? No, I have not Uh, could you add the spanning tree differences? So switch reviews unifying genius sysco knows example very different costs By default I had to match them Not likely I'll do a video on that If you turn on low latency on the nvr, probably not Oh, we have someone else from tailor tucky. That's awesome. Howdy neighbor Oh spying on people. Yeah Uh ignoring price. Would you use ssds for hard drives are critical? Yeah, absolutely Uh, can you I read plates? Not really I think it has something in there for it in one of the updates But it doesn't have that I'm aware of like plate recognition at all I remember I don't I think it's on maybe a roadmap, but it's not available right now to my knowledge It does vehicles like it'll find the vehicles, but it's not going to um It's not going to find the uh plates. It won't pull that it doesn't have like the fancy stuff for there Plates reading plates is a camera issue. Not so much software. Um Ah kind of So Greetings from Switzerland. Appreciate your content. Love it. Have a nice day. Awesome I am gonna wind us down. I'm gonna give you five more minutes because I have uh, I have to go pick up my son So five more minutes and then I'm gonna wander out of here So go ahead and hit those final questions or of course as I always like to say hit me up in the forums You can swap this back to my other System this one's local so it loads faster Uh Take a lot. Well if I take longer then I'll pick you up after I go I have another event to go to so I'll just pick you up after that So I'll pick you up this afternoon My son my son's not here. I gotta go pick him up at some point in time But he's doing dishes at his mom's I guess Um, so this comes down to sometimes it's a camera thing. Sometimes it's an nvr thing So with my sonology and I have that video I did with the mcrest um, I'm doing all the detection notification inside the camera but If you use the dva series sonology, you can do the detection Inside the dva system the the sonology itself So it does vary where you do that detection information because it's essentially sent as an extra signal I can probably pull up the info on it. So we I I have it in a video, but we go here to the cameras and what looks is going to be the cameras that are Driveway does this Advanced actually it's uh event detection Triggering so this is extra data that the camera sends So face detect can I zoom in and it's still kind of big face attack trip wire intrusion you configure this inside the camera and then the camera forwards the information over to the nvr So it can be done in camera and how do you want, you know enable in surveillance station? Basically, and I have these human and vehicle. These are the notifications I use So if it is a human or a vehicle instead of motion I have those specifically set up to alert my phone that way I know a squirrel versus a person in my driveway It does a pretty good job of not mixing up squirrels and people Once in a while it'll make get it wrong, but most of the time it does not so Yeah, it kind of depends in a lot of the the nice thing about doing it in the cameras Is it let when you start scaling upwards and for example if you had a hundred cameras that needed to do Person detection you would have to have an nvr looking at a hundred streams to get that information But if you do it inside the camera the camera goes got a person here and then can trigger the recording alert So it's a it's kind of a workload distribution problem when you think about it from that perspective Instead of having you know nvr intensively looking at a hundred streams You have a hundred cameras assigned to a task The iris has a harder time seeing through sun shadow changes than the human eye Yeah, the the specific problem with cameras is how many in the photography world we call it stops of light How many stops of light or dynamic range? Do you have and the human eye has really extensive? Dynamic range compared to even advanced cameras Dynamic range of the human eye is not quite Is is good and these cameras are not quite up to snuff compared to it. That's what gives us better shadow contrast Smash the like button for mr. Lawrence. Yes, we should do that Um There is a 130 viewers and 31 likes so hit that bash out like button for sure Good morning. That means you are way on the other side of the world Because it is good afternoon here but all right I'm not sure what else we wanted to talk about today. We've got this analogy covered Which wasn't really I just started playing with it. So that's just kind of uh Something in there. Uh, what else are you here? I will be doing a video on this since someone asked Or did I put it? I've already lost it. It's over here somewhere There's a I'll wait till I do it. I'm doing a video on a really cheap Cool label printer great for home labs So there's uh, I think it's over here somewhere I'll find it Here it is This cute little thing, of course, I put a label on it that says It's always dns uh, but this is a label printer and It's very handy. It hooks up to your phone. Uh, it's got to see charger, but it's bluetooth Uh, but let me get the link to this. This is a really cool label printer. Um It's so inexpensive the refills aren't expensive Uh I'll drop a link for people who want to link to it directly I'll share it in just a second This little device and I bought it. I've had it for a couple months So I wanted to use it for a little while before I did a test. I've been labeling things with it So far it's worked fine. Um They do come in different colors There's a reason you buy a pink one. It's called the nimbot Uh, but yeah, I can even print. Um QR codes and things like that It's just a clever simple little printer. You just type things on there and you get all these fancy stickers you can get I like that they had cat stickers in there because you know, of course Um, but it's a cool little printer. There's a reason you get it in black. Uh, not in black So if you get it in this first, no one knows what it is Second, no one will take it from you because they don't want it. There's if you if you leave this at a job site No one will assume it's your printer And it's actually really handy because uh being smooth like this Um, it slides right in your pocket. No problem So you just pull it out you print a couple labels if you have something missing Is it a replacement for a large industrial commercial grade one? Well, no But when you want something slips right into your pocket to print a couple labels Dude, it's just great. It's just a great little printer for that. Um They're average durability. They're not it's not the most like, you know, these aren't the high end labels This is not your expensive Uh commercial grade printer, but it's better than not having labels And when you're on site somewhere and you're just like, oh, I just have this and this is kind of more me Um, but or especially for people that's looking for, you know, like a homelab situation where they just want to pull a few labels By the way, if you didn't notice, um The thing's $29 like you can't it's 29 bucks Like it's not it's not a particularly expensive device. It's super easy Uh at $29 it's bluetooth. You just have to use a little app on your phone. Um, but it it's just kind of neat Uh, they do have some clear labels too. Yes Anything will I'm a dad so I'm wearing cargo shirts and my son is right anything will fit in the cargo shirts So but yeah, I got to do a video on this because it's just a clever little printer. I'm I'm it's simplistic That's why I like it But all right. Well, I'm gonna wind it down for now. Thank you everyone for joining. This was awesome as always Worth a shot. Oh any instant on videos coming up Not I don't plan on it because instant on hasn't done anything new Uh, the I can log into it real quick to make sure I'm not wrong But to my knowledge The instant on has done nothing interesting at all So we'll go ahead and pull up the aruba portal I haven't logged in in a minute. So let me log in Yep, looks the same It doesn't look anything different. It's still super basic These are both offline right now They're just so I don't know They just don't have much in a way of features on it Um identification, where was the settings at was it in here? I don't know. I didn't I didn't find it intuitive at all either There we go. Network assignments. It was okay. It was usable I mean we set up some vlan's on and I powered my cameras with it for a while But there was nothing about it that was really blowing me away. So it was like, I don't know Does it only work with Apple or work with the azitex? It only works with their app It's a bluetooth thing. You load their app on there So Any hot sauce nothing new this week? I might do a saturday stream. So Um, yeah, have you seen the test on our 130 seconds? It's not a risk. I'm too worried about I'm aware of it though It's interesting, but I it you know, whatever Nothing, I'm not super Uh, super concerned about it More headline than it was blow you away relaying attacks aren't new. They've been around for a couple years That's why it was less surprising. I was aware of it But even they were if you go back I think the first relay attack with bluetooth le was like in 2018 or 2019 and And it's just progressing it, uh further. So yeah Oh, that's right For father's day, my son did give me some carolina reaper nuts. So yes. Yes. I do have those so All right, I'm going to wind this down and end it. Thank you everyone for joining I'll debate about doing a saturday one if you Hit me up on twitter or something. I'll uh, uh, encourage me to do it or something like that. So, all right Yeah, like the dodge y-tech attack that was from 2016. That's what eight years ago now 2016 or 2017 I think that's that's old news and that was a while ago So automotive security is not the best. That's not that's not new. That's not news. I should say it's uh, Unfortunately common. All right later everyone take care