 Let's go ahead and start. It's 909 by my computer's account. I'm gonna go ahead and do a call to order. And we're all here. It's great to see everyone. Have you all had a chance to look at your packets and look at the meeting, the minutes from the previous meeting? By shaking of the heads, that's true. So basically that's the other thing that I'm gonna do a clarification real quickly. From speaking with Kathy, and she's talked to the city clerk, we're doing an abbreviated version of parliamentary procedure. So I was doing the strict fallout, we do everything. So we're gonna do an abbreviated version from now on where we'll just do a vote on any agenda items that we need to add, approval of minutes and that kind of thing. So we'll only be doing votes and approval of the minutes in the house managers reports. So I'll be calling for votes on both of those. And then we'll go through the agenda items as quickly as possible. And then unless we have any motions or added items that we need to add to the agenda, we will only do votes on those and then we'll do a vote for an adjournment. So if that's, do you guys understand what I'm saying? Am I clearly articulating that? Okay, so this way the meeting will go much quicker and hopefully we'll go from there. So looking at the minutes and if everybody's had a chance to review those minutes, I am gonna call for a motion for approval of... Maureen, you just froze. Okay, am I okay now? Yes. Okay, so re-clarification. Thank you, Kathy, for telling me that these are going to be fun meetings obviously. So I am gonna be calling for a motion for approval of the board minutes of January 13th. If I can get a motion from somebody and somebody needs to un-mic and put forth a motion. I move that we accept the minutes from January 13th, 2021. Thank you, Kani. Can I get a second, please? Kani, would you un-mic and just say yes? Usually down in the bottom. Yes, well, mine's at the top. That's why I was confused. I second. All right, thank you. So it's been moved and seconded that we approve the minutes from the board meeting because we are being filmed, if we can just do a hands of approval for a vote that for all approving of the board minutes of January 13th, 2021. Perfect, great. Great, moving right along. That was a full compliance that everybody approved with those. Moving straight to the house managers for Court Kathy, if you would please start, that would be great. Absolutely. We have been very quiet, as you can see from the number of events between January and March because of COVID, obviously we're not having any events, but we did have 10 tours and one board meeting. I did count the board meeting that we did in January. So we've had a total of 43 guests in 10 tours and the garden is still being used a lot for photographs, but because we're not there all the time, even when we're there, it's hard to capture, but when we're not there, it's impossible to capture how much use it's actually getting. But I know they're doing it. I saw some beautiful little girls and dance outfits getting their pictures taken on Saturday. So it was kind of fun. Our inquiries are still tracking to previous years. We've had 92 inquiries since the beginning of the year. Eight of those have come in through phone and 84 have been electronic. We are getting more inquiries from the knot than anybody else, but Weddingwire and the city of Longmont websites are right behind there. And we also have a new source of inquiries, which is a small company endeavor called then you hub, who's actively working to reroute postponed COVID events. So we started to get some inquiries from them as well. You can see that they met and matched the city of Longmont website inquiries for January through March. We have four new revenue generating events and it was kind of tricky counting because we've had events book and then cancel as well. So I just did the best I could based on my assumption that we only wanted to know about things that were still on the books. So we now have a total of nine revenue events booked for 2021. The really good news, Pat Neff is going to continue to do our custodial. I don't believe that Rhonda is coming back. Pat is doing a phenomenal job. If we leave him a list, he does the whole list and then he adds to it. And right now he is working at systematically moving through all of the rooms, boiling all the wood and he's having fun. And it's really hard work. So he is coming on Thursdays. He's staying a large portion of the day instead of the three hours that we were used to getting from Rhonda. And he is willing to do anything we need him to do. So I am so jazzed that we've got somebody who's willing and capable and happily doing everything he can to make the house beautiful and ready to open. So that's amazing. And since they're adding another custodian to recreation, I think I've been told that that's going to continue for the foreseeable future. Thank you, Sue Ellen. So I'm really jazzed about that. And he is so tickled to show up on Thursdays and make a pot of coffee and go to work. So it's pretty exciting. The garden is going gang busters. We are doing tons of things to get ready for the summer. Both Grow and Terracare have been out. Grow's been out at least three times already. They've both done a leaf cleanup and Grow is now trimming bushes and weeding to get ready for the planting, which will be the third week in May. They're also remulching all of the perennial beds so that we get a leg up on that as well. So that's pretty exciting. Terracare has aerated. They've done a leaf cleanup. I'm pretty sure they fertilized the day they aerated. And the other good news is I talked parks into doing a pre-emergent again this year. They haven't done one for about three years and we've been increasingly getting more and more crabgrass in our grass, especially in the boulevards on the outside of the fence. And unfortunately, once it's out there, then it moves into the main part of the garden. So we're working on getting a pre-emergent laid down to stop the crabgrass. I'm excited about that too. The use of the garden is picking up again. There were people out there with lawn chairs in the sunshine last week. There was a mother and two dance daughters and a photographer. There's lots of people walking through. It's always so exciting to me to see people there. My family had an ACUN there on Easter morning. And the kids had a great time, even though, frankly, nothing's up higher than this much. So my seven-year-old grandson walked into the property and he looked around and he said, put his hands on his hips. And he said, don't you think grandpa should have done a better job of hiding the eggs? And we got a seven-year-old critique, but it was, they had a great time. They hunted their eggs. It was over in like 15 minutes. And then they hid eggs. They picked out 10 eggs and they re-hid them in the garden for two more hours. So they had a great time. Critique and all. Good news, we're gonna start letting the clubs return to the house with the proper safeguards. If they are vaccinated, they can come back and they don't have to social distance. They do have to wear their masks until the city and or the county lists the mask mandate for indoors. If they aren't vaccinated, then they can come back but they will still have to social distance and wear their masks. So I'm working on notifying each of them that they can come back and seeing if they actually wanna do that at this point. But that's really good news. It'll be the first time we've had people in the house to do something for a long, long time. So that's exciting. The repairs, we're doing repairs on the kitchen hood. The carbon dioxide canister is expired and the new company that's doing the maintenance felt like that the nozzles needed to be moved a little bit. So we are in the process of getting that done. Facilities approved it and they're paying for it. Which is good news. And they're gonna be in on the 19th to do that work. Jacqueline is working on our biannual inventory and that's almost done. We're down to the stuff that's hard because it moves around and changes was kind of funny. She came into my office yesterday and she wanted to know about the linen inventory because she couldn't make any sense of it. And she's the one who did it two years ago and I didn't review the linen inventory because to me that's just kind of, it changes all the time. So we sat for about 10 minutes and tried to figure out what she did two years ago and just decided she was gonna redo it because it didn't make sense. So I told her to do it. So it made sense when she redid it into warriors. So we're almost done with that. And that's an exciting thing to have behind us because it's very tedious and time consuming. I already talked about the clubs. So I'm gonna move past that one. Just kind of an update on the dial and I think it's actually changed since I wrote the note yesterday or wrote the report yesterday. But as of yesterday, we were in yellow on the COVID dial. It looks to me like there is a very good chance that we're moving to blue with caveats shortly but I don't know the exact nature of that. So at the moment, under yellow, we're able to do events up to 50% of our capacity. And as long as we're willing to do mass and put six feet between the tables. So we're working on getting that information out to the people that already have events booked and looking for ways to do that safely that makes sense so that as we do our bookings, we can tell people what the rules are at that moment in time and then just keep them informed as they change. So my interpretation of that after consulting with Sue Ellen and Ben is that we can do up to 75 in the garden and 15 to 20 in the house depending on if we use the upstairs or the downstairs. So some of our events still can't go forward inside because they're bigger than 15 or 20 guests. That includes a couple of our clubs but we're making progress and it's exciting. And I'm in the process of getting more hand sanitizer so they can be like everywhere and putting up a few signs about social distancing and mask wearing so that we're in compliance with all of the rules. I, pardon me. Kathy, I hit an interrupt but I have some questions and I'm not sure how you would like to handle the questions. Would you like us to wait with your questions and completely until you're done with the report or do we want to take questions per your bullet items? You know, it would probably be easier just to jot them down and do them at the end because I've got quite a bit to get through and your questions might get answered and if they don't then we can do them at the end. Does that make sense to everybody? Yeah, I just wanted, I wanna make sure that we're all on the same page. So, okay, thank you. Okay, that's fine. I submitted the operating budget for 2022. It is budget season and I'm working on capital requests. I need to do what's called PB 145 which is kind of an ongoing capital request to purchase things like furniture that benefit customers. I'm working on that. And then in addition to the grant that we're working on we're also gonna put a capital request in the system to do the remainder of the items that are not in the current capital funding that we've already received. So I'm gonna do a request for whatever we need in addition to what we've got for the driveway already and for the painting and for the, I think that's it. So we're gonna go ahead and put a capital request in the system per Karen Roney's suggestion and Jeff's agreement so that we have a backup if the grant request or if the grant isn't approved. So I'm working on that as well. We have some money this year out of the PB 145 which is the fund that we use to replace things that customers benefit from in the various facilities in the city. And we're gonna get a new stove. Our stove is in pretty crummy condition. We were gonna do that last year and then the funding got cut off. So we're gonna go ahead and do that. We're all set for that from an installation perspective because we went ahead last year and installed a turnoff valve on the connection to the gas. So now all we have to do is pull out the old stove put in the new stove and hook it up because before it was wired directly into the gas and we couldn't do it without a plumber. So I'm working on that. I also think we're gonna get a new refrigerator for alcohol and drink and food storage because we can't figure out how old that refrigerator that we have is. It left, it was at the senior center for Meals on Wheels and they got a grant to get a new one and we took it and it's got another five or six years on it. And no idea when it's gonna conk out and we've got the dollars to replace it. So I think that we're gonna do that. And then if there's any money left over we're gonna buy some additional folding chairs that match the ones that we use in the downstairs because they are still available. And something that I'm noticing is that a lot of the things that we're using are becoming not available any but more because people are not manufacturing them. And since we have such a huge investment in those cherry wood, canes, chairs we're gonna go ahead and buy a few more so that we can keep using them for quite some time. Karen and Ann and I are still working on the grant submission. Karen's gonna give us an update on that in a little bit. And just so you know, before when we were doing this the grant deadline had not been set. The grant application is still not open. And but the grant deadline is gonna be the 1st of August. And we are still waiting on quotes from most of the contractors that we've spoken with. Most of them are so busy that they can't seem to break free from their busy schedules and the work that they're already doing to give us a quote for work that we aren't gonna do till 2022. And the other thing we're really struggling with at the moment is what exactly are we gonna do with the driveway? So, and I'll let Karen talk to what we've figured out so far when we get to that portion of the meeting. The other good or bad news is that the grant process this year is gonna be very, very competitive because most of their funding comes from the taxes off of gaming revenues. And of course, Central City and Black Hawk and the other gaming city, whatever that one is, we're close most of last year. So their funds are fairly short, although I skied a couple of weeks ago and if the traffic into Central City is in any indication they are going gangbusters. Just another note, Jacqueline and I are both scheduled to renew our CPR and first aid in May to keep up with our requirements for safety for the house. And I didn't put this in the note but I also have to renew my tips training in May which is the training to serve alcohol responsibly. So I'm looking into getting signed up for a class. Event cancellations, my June 19th wedding canceled. They've been having a lot of health issues and they also are struggling because of COVID and they decided not to go forward. Stephanie and Cove booked and then they turned back around in about three weeks and canceled. Her family is Canadian and based on the rules about crossing the border and the pace at which the vaccinations are happening both here and there, they decided they just didn't wanna take a chance that their families couldn't be there when they got married which makes perfect sense. But we did schedule a very nice little lovely wedding ceremony for May 22nd. We scheduled a lovely little 12-person wedding, excuse me, wedding ceremony and dinner for 13th of June with a rehearsal on the 12th. We just scheduled a 60th wedding anniversary for July and of course, Stephanie and Cove have canceled but we did go through all the motions and the invoices and the billing and the booking for their events. So I did put it on there as booked and then canceled. We're getting a ton of inquiries but people are very, very cautious. They really don't wanna book and then cancel. So they're all holding off to see what happens with COVID. As I mentioned before, our leads are tracking very well to previous years but people are just getting information and waiting. I did send a note and have a little conversation with the Firehouse Art Gallery who are the people who sponsor Art Walk. They are planning on doing the September event which is gonna look pretty much like the old Art Walks. I think that's really good news. At the moment though, they don't really have a sponsorship that fits the same category as what we did. Their sponsorships are considerably more spending than what we've done in the past. So I'm gonna have a conversation with her about whether or not they can open up a sponsorship like the one we had before. So I'm continuing to work on that. Wedding Sites and Services is starting to go back to shows. The shows are starting to gear up for the wedding shows. So I did get some leads in March and sent out emails to all of them and I just received another set that I'll send out probably this evening. So they're starting to fire up. Moving on to the spreadsheet and the financials. On the main sheet, which is the one with all of the months on it. You can see that we're kinda holding our own financially so far this year. We're about $1,000 in the red, which is not surprising at all at this time of year even in a non-COVID year. So I'm not disappointed in that at all. And I'm hoping as the bookings pick up that we'll continue to, we'll get in the black and stay there this year. But that all depends on what happens with COVID. The next sheet is the event breakdown sheet. And you can see that we've had a total of 12 events with 43 guests so far this year. And that includes the April events because that's a running total. Those are not represented on the report for today. So there was one more tour with three more guests. The next three sheets are the expenses in January, February, and March. I put those in there so you could see that we're not really spending much money. Most of what we're spending is to pay Jacqueline and for a few office supplies and also our current advertising. So I just wanted to put those in there so you could see what we were actually doing. Nothing too exciting. But I thought you might wanna see exactly what we're, excuse me, I'm losing my voice, what we're spending money on. So if you have any questions on those, you can ask them when we're done going through the stuff. I did also put together a revised 2020 financial sheet. It's still not final because the city hasn't completely closed the books for 2020, but you can see that we were about $7,000 in the red last year and that money will come out of the fund. And the bulk of that was paying Jacqueline during COVID and keeping her employed. We paid her pandemic leave, which meant that she didn't come to work up until June and paid her her full wages of 12 hours a week. And then when she came back to work, we paid her six hours a week for the balance of the year. So that is the majority of the money we spent last year. And then in 2021, the next sheet is just a reiteration of what the spreadsheet says for 2021. The next thing in the, I'm gonna leave off the electronic participation policy until we're ready to that agenda item. So that's everything I've got for the manager's report. So, Moraine, do you wanna open it up for questions? Yes. So we're gonna go ahead and open up the manager's report for questions. Is there anybody that has any questions that they would like to ask Kathy in regards to this report? Do, just a couple of questions on Jacqueline's inventory. Does she need some help with that? I know we used to help with the inventory. You know, we're almost done, Connie. And it's been a really good way to keep her busy. Sure. Because we don't, until the clubs come back, we don't have as much work for her. So at this point, I'd say no, but we would welcome that help in the future in two years. So in two years, if you wanna raise your hand and volunteer, that would be amazing. If I'm still on. Yes. And then the other question I had was triggered by your egg hunt, Kathy. I thought that would be a perfect little event to add on to offer in the, as a city activity at the Callahan house for future reference, you know, around Easter time is doing an egg hunt. How fun is that? So just stuck in my head and I thought, well, maybe we can look at that sometime when we get back to whatever is normal. Yeah, the new normal, right? Yeah, the new normal. The new normal. I think that's a brilliant idea. Maybe we could consider looking at an Easter egg hunt slash tea or something along those lines to be a spring fundraiser or whatever. Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Any more questions? Ann? I have one. Yeah. Just on the art walk, as far as you said, it might be back to active again in September. Will the Callahan be part of that or is this art walk just downtown? No, I'm hoping to participate. And there are two ways that we could participate. One would be as an official sponsor if they'll create something that makes sense for us financially. And the other would be just to be open like we used to do during art walk and make sure that people know that through social media and whatever other ways we want to communicate it. I think we could do it either way because I think we've built up enough of a following and enough people that know we're open that if we didn't find a financially appropriate sponsorship so that they would advertise for us that we could still just plan to be open. Would we consider still hosting an artist? I mean... Yes. I'm so disappointed, honestly. Ann, your idea with the dresses, the paper dresses and everything like that, I'm so sad that we were not able to do that. I think that would have been a splendid event. I don't know that they've evenly scheduled anything like that or if we look at that... We can have Jacqueline Chase it. She's the one that came up with that idea and did all the communications on that. So I think we should probably wait until June, mid-June or early July to actually start booking artists at least until we have some clarity if it's really gonna happen. And then we can certainly have Jacqueline Chase them to see if they've done something this year. I agree. We certainly don't wanna have anybody booked and then disappoint people again. I don't wanna put it off too far because people have been stuck at home for so long that I think they're jumping at the chance to book up their calendars and get doing things again. So yeah, I agree. We can wait until June, but if everybody can get their little thinking caps on and think of maybe a good local artist because I'm not so sure that I wanna waste Jacqueline's time chasing that down yet because I really am not sure that that's occurring. Maybe we'll just look at getting one or two local artists. Well, Ann does that. She takes suggestions and then she pursues getting the artists booked. And usually we have somewhere in the neighborhood of three or four, depending on how much space they want and what they're showing. And I'm assuming, I'm not volunteering you, Ann. I'm just assuming that you wanna continue. So you might wanna pipe in. Ann, I'm sorry. I can't hear you, you're on mute. Yeah, I had rebuted myself. Yeah, I still have, in fact, I was looking at my packages that I have on all the artists last night. So. So, just for our clarification. So is Ann in charge of our walk? Is that something that's just a standard thing that she's been doing? Just clarifying. She volunteered to do it. And she had to help her. Who was helping you, Ann? Yeah, what I usually, surely, surely was. Okay. I had also volunteered last year to help and had a couple artists set up, Diane Wood and Leslie Capizzi as a jewelry artist. But, and then we canceled and I canceled with them. But I would love to do that again. I was the former director of the Longmont Council for the Arts. So I am really, I know a lot of the local artists in that regards. I would love to work with it on that, Ann, if you would accept my help in regards to that. Sure, that's such a, what it does is, it's more like I was a central point. I took suggestions and we tried to contact, but we didn't want everybody going out and promising artists that they could show and then have too many. So we needed a central point. Oh, definitely, definitely. And so in other words, we'll not, if you wanna talk to artists and say that there's a possibility you could show, or we're looking for it, but don't say here you have a spot because you don't know what somebody else has been talking about either. So we need a central point to, before we promise them that there's a spot here. Okay, just for clarification, I thought it was approved in the board minutes and meetings when we did this the last time. So just, yeah, okay. Great. So if anybody has any suggestions that we could go forward and then just put some names out there, but those are two that I know that have a really good following. And we've had Diane before and have worked with the house before. And Ann, she actually has pieces of what she has created Callahan House itself. And done things. I think prior to you even being on the director as the director, Kathy, that's... Yeah, she, the last time Diane was at the house, she actually did a live demonstration. Yeah. She sat on the porch and painted. And that's the type of thing she really likes to do. And that brings, and like I said, she's got a really good following. So she's elderly. And I know that she still is very, very prolific and does a lot of pieces and it would be out there to do that. At this time, I don't know if Leslie is available, but again, she has a really good following. Okay. So I had a couple of questions back to the manager's reports. On the statistics, one of the things you were saying about counting and how hard that is to do because you're not always there. I know from listening to various reports and stuff out there that certain inquiries like the rec departments and other state parks are now starting to track and do things through their social media accounts and tracking through photos. Is there photos and posts in which the Callahan has been added in? Is there a way that we can do that? They also do things through the, by tracking like information through Fitbits and stuff like that. So just the thought that something we might, with this new normal, I think we have to start thinking out of the box on in regards to how are we gonna make sure that we're tracking and keeping these accurate. And I'm all into making sure that we're meeting the requirements of what the initial charter was. And that is as a donation to the women of Longmont. And we have to really be on top of that we're following that charter. And I understand that we do the weddings and whatnot, but it's really important that we meet the requirements of the charter. I mean, the Callahan house wasn't given just to be a wedding venue. So that was my other question for you. It's exactly how are you meeting and approaching clubs and women's groups to let them know how they can do the thing. And how are you also verifying that they're vaccinated? Do you just do it on verbal confirmation or? So first of all, we're gonna let them self-police. So in other words, they're going to do whatever they need to do to confirm that they're vaccinated. We can't really do that. So we're gonna leave it to the clubs to determine if their members are vaccinated and then tell us if that's the case. Okay. The way, mostly the way we honor the charter is by doing the clubs and doing them very inexpensively. But we have also had an unofficial direction from the city that we not substantially increase the number of clubs meeting in the house. When we lose a club, we can gain a club or two. We've tried very hard to get them down to a couple of days a week so that we can actually physically have private events so that we can afford to keep the doors open for the clubs. So we still have about the same number of clubs that we had when I came to the house 10 years ago. And when we lose a club or we basically have an opening for a club and I often get approached by people to meet at the house. And so what we try to do is keep them into the same days and the same timeframe so that we don't have to staff the house multiple times for multiple clubs. So we don't actively advertise because I think we would be overwhelmed and probably be booked for morning to night, seven days a week with clubs. And so that's kind of been our approach per Karen Roney. And the private events are actually how we support the house because the only funding that we get from the city are my salary and benefits and the maintenance of the major items in the house and the maintenance of the garden. So everything else, even a paper clip comes out of the proceeds from the events that we get paid for. Did I answer your question? Kind of. So on city direction, you've been told not to have any more clubs than what was prior. Karen's wish was to not substantially increase the number of clubs that met at the house because we have to have a balance between the clubs meeting at the house and the private events, which is how we fund maintaining the house and keeping the house as a city asset. Okay. But from prior reports that you've done, you said that our clubs are actually dropping some of the bridge clubs and other things due to the elderly and... And we have clubs waiting behind them to take their spots. So one of our bridge clubs is probably gonna go away and we have a stitching club that wants to meet. So we'll replace the bridge club with a stitching club. So there's a waiting list. An informal one. Okay. So we pick and choose basically? No, there's no picking and choosing. That somebody approached me about meeting and they're gonna start meeting soon. I haven't communicated with them because of COVID. I mean, we'd be kind of on hold. We're not gonna add new clubs until we have a clear path forward in COVID. But I have a lady who approached me about her club meeting at the house. And as soon as we have a clear pathway forward through COVID, I will reach out to her again and figure out when they're gonna meet. Okay. Kathy, I'm just trying to have a clarification in my mind exactly how it works, how people approach you to do the clubs and that there's only a set number. Okay. That's just, it's just a clear up on that. I understand. Approach you or should they also approach through the city rec department? Usually it's directly to me. Okay. I don't think there's been any approaches through recreation. Has there so Ellen? You know, any information that we get or requests for Callahan House do get funneled to Kathy. Whether it's from our generic rec support email or reach out to one of our staff. So Kathy does get all the information that comes through recreation. And even from the city manager's office those will also come into her either through recreation or directly to her. Okay. Cool. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Thank you for answering my questions. Does anybody have any other questions? Oh, there is. I didn't address your statistics thing. I can't think of any meaningful way to do it with Fitbits or photos. The one idea that I've had if we could figure out a way to do it would be to put counters on the gates. You know, that just ticked when people came in and went out. But it looks like it's a very expensive solution which may or may not be very reliable which may or may not require external power. So that's been one of the things I've been kind of poking at on and off again. I will go poke at it again because I would love to just put a counter on the gate. So when anybody came through the gate it just counted heads. Because that would be a very, to me that would be a very interesting statistic. And it would also be a good way to support the continuing funding of the garden through the parks department. So that is something that I've contemplated if anybody has any good ideas for how to do that. And I know we've talked about it before. I would welcome your input or your ideas. I was just trying to come up with some solution that's technologically savvy and would not require too much of your time. Does that make sense that we can use this for our purposes or anything like that in which we could further our cause, so to speak. I'm concerned with the counter might not be considered accurate because it depending on people can mess with it. I hear all your concerns in regards to that. But again, anything that would be proactive and positive to make sure that people are recognizing how treasured this is used, that we're all working for the same cause here. So thank you. I appreciate it. Any other further questions? Seeing no hands. And I'm looking, as you can see I gotta get my glasses down there to make sure. I guess I just need at this point a motion for approval of the manager's report. Can somebody make a motion please? Anybody in mute and make a motion so we can move further on? I so move. Back end. Wonderful. It's been moved and seconded by, moved by Karen and seconded by, I'm moved by Candy, sorry, and seconded by Karen that we move further past going on to old business. So old business listed is the board members business cards. I have them ready. My question is, would you like me to mail them to you or do you just wanna hold on to, have me hold on to them until we actually have an in-person meeting? What are everybody's thoughts? I'm fine with you holding on to them I guess. Okay. Candy, you're in. I guess in the meantime, things we don't know when we'll be able to meet in person. It might be nice to have them. We could still be promoting, even though we're not meeting, be promoting the house with our business cards. I don't know if that's an expense we don't want to go through. We could set a time that Cathy's at the house and stop by and grab them. We could do that too, or have either option available. Either you stop by and pick them up when Cathy's there and make arrangements, or you wait till the next meeting when we're all in person. Great suggestion. I, Candy, have said it, when Cathy letting us know when you're there and we could individually stop by and pick them up, I don't like the thought of having and added expense of mailing them. It just seems we could stick our masks on and come in and just do a quick pop in and pick up the cards when it would be convenient for you. That's my thought, but I don't know where everybody else is at. Besides, that way we could actually see you for just a nanosecond. We could come in and have a cup of tea. Yeah, I like it. I will set something up on the calendar. Write myself a note so I don't forget because my memory banks are about a nanosecond big. And I will put a couple hours on the calendar in the next week or so when I'm gonna be there and I will send you an invite. And then for those of you who don't make it, I'll maybe set another one or maybe I'll break down and nail the one or two that are left. How's that? Sounds good. All right, and I'm gonna send 10 each to start with, but I can print more as we need them. Does that work? Yes, I think so. All right. Okay, moving right along, grant update. And I guess that goes to you, Karen. If you wouldn't mind, please updating us on that. Yes, we have some news to update you with. After our January meeting, we received notice on January 21st that the new state historical fund guidebook was coming. And on February 1st, we received that new guidebook, 60 pages. And so the process to apply for the grant is changed a bit. And we've learned that looking through the new guidebook, we're now required to complete a letter of intent and submit that first. So our direction changed a little bit and we began to focus on preparing the letter of intent. And so that is almost complete. We just have some fine tuning to do to that. And then it will be ready for submission. But we are also waiting for contractors to get back to us, as Kathy mentioned, with their bids. And so that holds up any further work on the application itself until we actually can get those in. But if you are all interested, it would be wonderful to share with you that letter of intent so that you can all read it and provide any feedback. And before, of course, before we would submit it. That is our, I guess, latest overall update about grant writing. Does anyone have any questions about that? I know in the past, I believe it was Candy and was it you Janet? And I apologize if I'm getting muddle, but that we'd like to see the grant. And the other thing is from speaking with a couple of people on city council and other community members, it's my understanding that we can all work on the grant if we choose to, that the sunshine laws do not sit on that simply because we're not discussing board policy or anything in regards to that. So we can work on the grant and each of us could have input if we chose to do so. So I want to do a clarification that any of the outside items, including our walk and whatnot, we can all work on long as we're not discussing board policy. So clarification. So if anybody else would like to help Ann and Karen, who have, again, I want to thank you guys for taking this on. It's really important work and that's kind of where I'm at. So Connie, what do you thought I saw that you unliked? I forget. Let me think. I was writing some notes and then I forgot. I'll un-mike and figure it out. Okay. Any other comments? I think me personally, I would love to be able to see the letter. And go, I think everybody, a fresh pair of eyes on anything is always good. Personally, that's the way I like to work. I know that not everybody does, but okay, Connie, you're back. I realized Karen Cruz, could you send us a copy on email as a document? Yeah. Okay. That would be great. Just to have some of the notes and then that letter of intent, probably is it just one page long or something like that? It's three pages. Three pages. Okay, good. So I'm happy to send the guidebook to all of you. It's a PDF. You can dive right into that 60 pager and I'll include the letter of intent. And of course, like I mentioned, it's open for all of you ladies to take a look at and provide your feedback and your input. I sure welcome it and encourage it. This has never been a closed process. This is not exclusive. And I want to make sure that that's really clear. It never has been. So everyone's always been welcome to be part of this. Thank you. I would love to see the PDF too. I don't want to kill any trees. So if we could keep it down to a format that we could look at and take several breaks in between the 60 pages that we can verify stuff, that would be great. And again, if you can think of anything that we can do to help, that would be outstanding. Anybody else have any comments in regards to the grant? I appreciate the clarification on the sunshine notes because we have been trying to work around that by only having two board members in any meeting. So I really appreciate that clarification because honestly, that's what we've done in the past. When we worked on Art Walk, when we worked on the ice cream social, when we had working sessions, we've always had more than two board members or typically had more than two board members. And I hated to think that we've been in violation all these years of the rules. And I was kind of throwing up my hands. So I said, well, how do we do this? How do we set up Christmas decorations with two people? I mean, how do we do this? It doesn't make sense. It just, well, we need a clearer guideline on, well, of course that doesn't mean, as long as we do not discuss board policy and if any board policy is brought up, we stop one another and say, that's not proper to discuss at this time. Simple, clear, elegant to the point. Great, good, that makes our life easier. So I'm thrilled with that. So if nobody else has any other things and want to make sure I'm looking at each square to make sure I'm not missing anything in regards to the grant update, I'm going to move on. Launch new business. Kathy, you can take the electronic participation policy for boards. Each of you should have this in your packet. All this is, and you can read it if it makes you feel better, but all it is is a policy that allows us to, that sets the guidelines and allows us to agree that we're going to meet the way we're meeting today to have virtual meetings. Because there was no policy for virtual meetings on the city's part. So all they did was put together the rules about how we're going to do that and how we contact the participants and how we, that it's allowable for voting and emergency situations. And so it just kind of lays out the acceptable way in which we're going to do what we're doing today. So they would like, they wanted us to present it to you and they also wanted us to vote that we were willing to do business in this manner. So. Okay, so we need to have a motion on this then. You said that they wanted us to list this, that wanted us, the city manager wants to have us a vote on. Yes, please. We as a committee will be following these rules and recommendations. Okay. And then we're willing to operate via these policies. Okay. So under that guys, I'm going to need a motion from somebody on the board that we accept this policy of board and commission meetings. Anybody? I make a move. I'm so moved. Okay. Connie Beaches. So. Okay, good. So can, can you take second? Second. Okay. So it has been moved by Connie Newman and seconded by Kenny that, Candice that the board commission meeting and policy has been approved by the Calhoun House Board. All right. Moving right along COVID update of clubs and events. Do we need to vote Maureen? Oh, yes. I apologize. Thank you. Clarification. Sorry. If we could have a vote and then I'll see a show of hands that we, it's been approved for the motion that's on the floor. I like the waving hands. Okay. Wonderful. So everybody has, it's been moved forward. I don't see any nays at this point. So it's been moved and seconded and a vote has been taken that we approve of the board and commission meeting. Thank you very much for the clarification. Appreciate it. Moving on at this point for the COVID update for clubs and events. Kathy, I know you covered this in your report but I'm going to go right back to you. So we have a clearer. You know, I don't, I don't really have anything to add. Like I said, I think we can do 15 to 20 inside and up to 75 outside. And I'm hoping that as we move to blue that that number is going to increase because I have a couple of events that are higher than that later in the summer in August and September. And I'm really, and I have a bride's mother that's pinging me every 10 days asking me to promise her that she can have her wedding for 100 in August for her daughter. And I keep telling her, I think it's going to work out but obviously I can't promise. So, but she's, she's, she's got it on her calendar. I think every 10 days. Kathy, Kathy, what's the news? So I'm hoping that things are going to change enough that we can have our events up to full capacity by July or August in that we won't have to wear masks and that everybody can go back to celebrating in the way that they want to. I agree. I hope everybody's getting their vaccines. I know I have. So yeah, I have to, you know, Karen has, yeah, everything vaccine. Yay. Awesome. Awesome. Well, I think the other thing, and I will confirm this, but I think the other thing is if everybody's been vaccinated, we can probably go back to in-person meetings. But I will confirm that because every time I thought we might be able to do that, I've been told we're not doing that yet. So I will, I will ask the question. Okay. That's wonderful. Because I would love to see your smiling faces in-person at the house, drinking coffee and tea and eating a donut or a pastry. Yeah, that'd be great. And I wouldn't have my puppies popping up every two, do you see their little heads down? I apologize. It's fine. My dog's actually barking at me. If it gets to be 430 on one of these meetings, they start barking at me because it's almost time to walk and they don't want me to forget. Of course not. Of course not. All right, so moving on to Art Walk Update. And we've kind of been jumping around and I do apologize about this. So Art Walk Update and Gaffey, you covered this also in your manager's report. I did. And do you have anything you wanna add about how you wanna handle it? Cause we kind of skimmed over that. I guess we'll put, and Thompson, if she is willing to be point-person on this, I think that'd be outstanding. And if you're willing to look into and be speaking exactly and coordinate with Gaffey on how we're approaching the firehouse in regards to this, who's the new director over at the firehouse, Kathy? Her name's Elaine. I can tell you our last name, I have an email from her. I can never remember it if I can find it. So, Anne, do you wanna just take a minute and for Maureen and Karen read to talk about how we've done Art Walk in the past and how we solicit artists and how we do that? Cause I don't think we've ever actually gone through that. No. Yeah, when I first came on, I think Shirley was doing it first and then she had to leave because of medical reasons from coordinating it. So I did volunteer to coordinate it for the last couple of years. Basically, everybody's invited to recommend an artist. We kind of look through what they can do. We can only have four or five is about the max. If you get too many, I know they used to pack a lot in, but it's just too crowded. And so we just wanna make sure we have a variety and we don't want, that's why we want a central point. So recommend an artist, that's wonderful. That helps a lot so I can talk to them. And then we'll just decide, maybe we'll have a couple watercolor artists, a couple jewelry people. We want a little bit of a mix. We've had several interesting things. We had a lady who made decorative soap one time. We had a lady who made whirligigs for the backyard, for the front yard. So we're very open to different kinds of art, but that's the reason I say, don't just go out and ask somebody right away and say, yeah, you can come. We need to know how many we have and we just wanna make sure that everybody has an acceptable type of art. We don't want anything controversial, political, anything like that. I'm nude. Nude, no nudes. Sorry guys. I believe the last time when we were discussing, we were talking about possibly putting forth a theme. And that's why we were doing a theme with the dresses and trying to keep in the regards to the theme of fashion before this whole cabal. Right. So were you thinking on those lines that we might follow a theme this year? I'd really have to talk to Jacqueline and see if she, I don't even know if they did the paper dresses this year. That was a group down in Denver that did that. They were beautiful and it would have been, maybe we'll still be able to do it. I doubt that this fall that would come together, but maybe in the future year, we could get that put together. There's quite a bit of logistics involved in that. So for, I mean, actually I'd love to just maybe offline or have some email chats with several people, but once we know for sure we are going to be in this fall, we could talk about that. So I don't know. Personally, I just think we move forward and just do a smaller, maybe not take on so much of a chunk and forget the theme. Yeah, I think this fall will be rather a simple art walk. The other thing I just have a concern about is if we're going to have the artists in the house, how much space do we need? I mean, I know sometimes it gets rather crowded with people bumping, shoulder to shoulder almost through the house. So we obviously don't want to have it that crowded. So I don't know. It's gonna depend. Yeah, I'd sure like to know what, how many people we can have in the house at a time to even do this, you know? Is it gonna have to be like what we've done in the past with tours where one of us is on one side and we only let a certain number through at a time. And then we kind of monitor it that way. I think it's too early to guess. Okay. And honestly, if we can't have a significant number of people through in four hours, it may not be worth doing. So we just, we're gonna have to wait. Right. The fall one, the September one is always my favorite because so far anyway, in my experience, the weather has been better. And we've had, you know, the band on the deck, I don't, or on the porch, I don't know if that would be a possibility, but there is a possibility. Maybe we could put some of the artists in the yard if we wanted to look into that. So the crowds wouldn't be so packed together in the house. Those are things we can discuss and see if they're doable. Yeah, and that all, oh, that sounds great. And I like the thumbs up, Karen. I did thumbs up, Connie, great. That's great. I think you're right on. Unfortunately, there's Colorado, we can always depend on the weather and we can always hope. I think September we're better off in the fall, I agree. So, okay, thank you, Anne, for taking that on and we'll look forward to future updates. Okay, so. Maureen, in answer to your other question, the executive director of the Firehouse Arts Center is Elaine Waterman. Thank you. I know that she's relatively new and so great, great. Thanks, we'll go from there. Onto the marketing and social media. Okay, so look, I know that Kathy sent out this marketing and social media discussion. These are all just suggestions and thoughts of things that we're racing through my mind on this new normal, on how we're going to meet our requirements so it as we are. And again, this new normal, I don't think it's going anywhere to a certain degree. I'm hoping that we can get back together and meet in person. I think that's gonna happen, but there are other things that we need to be looking at. As far as in the past, I also spoke about the Rocky Mountain PBS. I contacted Rocky Mountain PBS and I contacted their broadcasting person and I apologize, I don't have their name directly in front of me, but I won't get back to you on that. They were very interested in doing something with putting a film on with the Count Hand. Interesting enough, they need two years in advance to do any film and putting forth an item. So rather than look at that as a negative, I look at it as positive that we can possibly look, we have an existing film, great, but it's outdated. And I think it'd be great to look at maybe contacting either a student or some other local filmmaker that could come in and approach doing a new film based on the Callahan and getting some updated in there. We wanted to make sure, at least in my point that we're reaching and continue to reach the younger population as well that are much more technology savvy than myself as one, but I wanna make sure that we're continuing to be prevalent and I think it's important. So those are some of my thoughts and if you guys have any, I asked for some information from Kathy to make sure that we are following all the discussions and everything that we need to do for our social media outreach and whatnot through the city. And I asked for any documentation that they have policies in regards to that. Because moving forth, this being a two-year process, we have to make sure that we're passing this through and everybody's, we're meeting all approval requirements and we're not stepping on anybody's toes. Again, I look at it as an opportunity to get the information about the Callahan's, Mrs. Callahan's generous donation to the women of Longmont and what a great jewel this is for us. And if we could get on the Colorado experience and we're very interested because we have such prevalent history and it is also supported by one of its main sponsors underneath is the Colorado Historic Fund. So this would also be a great opportunity to prove to them that they'd want to continue to support us with grants because we are making our, getting out there and making ourselves prevalent to the community. One of the things I was looking at doing is in a side note making a graphic on how the Callahan House or the Callahan family influenced the city of Longmont itself and by supporting who they did. And then there's the other thing, Zoom virtual tours. I know by visiting other historic sites and going out there because I'm, as I was sharing with Karen earlier, I love to travel and I love to go and do things and I love to experience local cultural and history. And if you touch on other historic buildings they have Zoom tours that they can go in and somebody's on the other end and we'll explain or go through the house. Maybe it's something that we should look at doing that we do with the Callahan House where we can have a Zoom tour or informational post on a media approach. Again, with clarification of how this goes through the city of Longmont and how we can do this. I think we're missing the opportunity here. This would also give us an opportunity to reach out to schools and have classrooms do a tour via social media. This is something that I think we're lacking in and I'm not gonna say I'm an expert on this in any way, shape or form. I am definitely not. I am just putting out ideas out there too. It was so sad when I heard that the Colorado Frontier Days with the classes down at the old school park. Pioneer Days. Pioneer Days, thank you. We're canceled and I was trying to think, okay, if it were my kids, how would I be trying to fill that in? And I think we're missing an opportunity here. I would like to hear everybody else's thoughts. So the Historical Society is doing virtual tours this year for Pioneer Days. So that obviously was a need they felt needed to be filled too. So that's being done and hopefully by next year we'll be able to return to in live presentations. My suggestion might be that because we do already have a film that exists, is there a possibility of putting that film on the city website or whatever, so that, or maybe even through the Longmont Museum, so that that film is available to anybody who'd like to see it, rather than reinvent the wheel and re-film, we've got it at our hands already, we've done it. So just make it accessible to people and maybe to classrooms too. I approached the Historical Society about doing the virtual tours of Callahan at the same time as the park, but no, they don't want it. They want it separate. They want it separate. However, Elise is more than willing to promote Callahan House in any of her contacts with the schools. And because this is different, because it's not like we've traditionally done, that would have to be thought about how we're gonna go about it. Because in the past, you send out a letter to the teachers or email or whatever, and you could say, by the way, Callahan House would be willing to set up tours for you, contact Kathy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. With the virtual tours, it's a little different, but they're willing to help promote, but not put them together. We don't want, they don't want the distinction to go away, right, exactly, yeah. So anyway, that's that. But yeah, I think we should take a look at what we've already got and make that available, first of all, and then if we wanna film a new one for the PBS, whatever in that two-year span, that's great. But history's history. I mean, things aren't gonna change that much from what we've already done to something new other than updating on what the house might be used for or that type of thing. That's modern history. We've done the historical stuff already. So it's not like we're so outdated that nobody's gonna gain anything from it. So two things, the video is available. It's on the City of Longmont YouTube channel. It's been there for quite some time. I Googled it, it came right up. So it is absolutely available. What I would like to see is I would love to do a new intro or maybe just cut out the original intro and just cut straight to the history stuff and the actual virtual tour of the house. Karen. I can say that I can gather a student volunteer who is gifted in those types of things. To be able to do that kind of film work so that we're not having to have an expense tied to that update. That's exactly what I'm looking for. Somebody that understands the technology is capable of doing it, could possibly use it as a student project, that type of thing. And again, I wasn't wanting to recreate the whole wheel. I agree, history is history. But the manager from PBS said that we have to have clear rights to the film and that possible updating or adding to the film was what would be required in order to put it forth for broadcast with them. And that's exactly where I'm at. And that is a question because it was produced by eyes on lawn muts and they made very well if we wanted an update be the ones who want to do that. But the other piece of information is we don't have the original film stuff that they did. They did not keep it. Last time I asked if it still existed, I was told they didn't know where it was at. So we would have to, if we wanted to change it then we would have to circle back with eyes on lawn munt and get permission at which point they might want to be the ones who actually did the updates, if that's even a possibility. And in seconding what Karen said, I also have a friend who's been a professional videographer and worked at a TV station who has a sound studio and a recording studio that we could maybe use. I haven't talked to him yet. So the first step would be actually speaking to eyes on lawn munt and the second step would be trying to figure out if we can find, A, what we want to do to it and B, who would we have do something like that. But I think the history portion and the actual virtual tour that Connie narrated are still very appropriate. One, two, ten. That's exactly that. Maureen, I think the PBS or the Rocky Mountain PBS is an awesome idea. I think that would be really cool to get that on there. I'd like to understand what that would consist of, what you actually talked to them about. And the other thing I want to add is it took us almost a year and a half to produce that last video and it was a lot of work. So if we're going to do something, then we have to be willing to commit to that work. I can't take it all on by myself, right? Absolutely not. And this is why part of the reason I wanted to bring up because I knew between the collective group, there would be somebody that knows people or knows of a possibility of how we can do this. And it's just asking the right question and going forth. Connie, you have a comment? Yeah, I had a couple of comments. I had worked on that DVD and film in 2013. And the eyes on Longmont would have the copyright on that. And unfortunately, Rich has passed away, but there are still committee people that were on that committee. I'd have to look up all my notes to remember their names. But it was really a project out of the senior center. And they used the Comcast Studio here over at, well, the old Carnegie building. Channel eight. Channel eight. Channel eight studio. Yeah. Channel three at the time, but whatever. And things, but that film, it was a huge undertaking in getting to the Colorado Experience piece. I know they have a real standard format of how they do that. And they could possibly use excerpts from the film, but they have a kind of a standard narration of how they do their projects. I watch that all the time. The other thing that I was gonna add is, as far as a new marketing thing, is it's been a long time since we've had an article in the Times Call. And I thought with the 150th, there again, this is a major opportunity. They've been doing a 150th article every week, a little feature. It's mostly from Eric and the archives, but it's still very interesting. So I know that Eric would be happy to put that forth or go ahead and get our, we can go ahead and, I don't know who to contact at the Times Call, but that would be a great way to get a feature again. The safting is they're doing it one a month. One a month is one a week. One a month. Oh my goodness. They're missing a big opportunity. Yeah, it's big. Yeah, I would wonder who we could contact and maybe do something over a weekend or one a month. That's, I'm sorry. Well, I'd be happy to go ahead and contact the Times Call and I could talk to Eric too and see who's handling what. And just get our name out there and say, it'd be great to have another, have an article because it's, I'm sure it's been at least 10 years since long the Callahan house has been featured as far as front cover kind of history feature. And that's exactly what I'm talking about. This whole COVID thing. It is. It's so disappointing because we were, this should be a huge celebration for the whole city and everybody should be doing this stuff. Sue Ellen, Sue Ellen's got your hand up, yeah. Well, I just wanted to let you know, recreation is doing 150 things to do in Longmont with 50 things for the spring, 50 things for the summer, 50 things for the fall. And Callahan house is part of that. So there are some efforts to tie in Callahan for some ways to check off if someone is that interested of doing the 130 things. We are tying some of that back to the Callahan house as well. So I want to let you know that there is some stuff out there tying it in. Thank you, Sue Ellen. Appreciate it. Candice, you had your hand up. Well, to piggyback on that, I sent emails to all of you about the woman's work fundraiser scavenger hunt that starts the 16th through the 25th. So that is tying in with 150th anniversary of Longmont. And Callahan is one of our scavenger hunt stops. And Kathy provided me with flyers that will be in each of the tote bags that everybody gets for this hunt that explains in more detail about Callahan house. Cause even though they'll just be going there and reading the QR code, hopefully there'll be new people and they haven't seen the gardens before and they'll meander through the gardens and open this little brochure and find out the information they need. So it's a way of promoting Callahan house and making sure it was included in this small little celebration of the 150th anniversary. So I encourage all of you to help us promote that if you would by attending or inviting friends to go on a scavenger hunt with you. I've already been speaking with my in-laws and my parents and getting everybody signed up to do that. I think it's just great. And thank you for making sure that the Callahan house was included. That's just great. That's great. So I've got a really big dog at the moment. Moving around, it's basically where I'm at. And it's good to know, Connie, if I will, in my notes, I'm gonna say that during that contact, the time's call in regards to having us do something for 150th anniversary. In the meantime, I will get more information, detailed information, exactly what they would like to see in what format and whatnot. But because they're looking at the different formats, that's why it looks like we will have to refill it from what I believe its name was Thomas was telling me. That's unfortunately the case. And then if we, on our side note, if we do it this way and we take on this project, then we can have something that we can work and use for and in any way choose, we see fit as the Piaw Handhouse Board to be used from the future. And we aren't gonna be working with, dealing with who's got the rights to what and do we have the right to use this and that. And because you had shared that Rich had passed away, that's the real clincher. And if he was the one that was really instrumental in doing that, it's a lot of muddy water. And I think we'd be better off looking at getting something together that we out now as the Cal and Handhouse owns. That's just my thought. Yeah, I will say with Rich, he was the instigator, but he's not the owner of that copyright. It's the eyes on Longmont. Yeah, the senior center of the eyes on Longmont. And I don't even know whether they're still in the existence or not. So how that's handled. Okay. They are, they're still around. Although just like every other group, they're not meeting because of COVID. Right, right. Okay. Again, do we wanna muddy the waters and just use what we can from them and see if they're willing to share it with us? And then if we can get a clarification, if we could have partial, I mean... They gave us the rights to use it. They did. Yeah, they did it for us. But the issue isn't using it. The issue is changing it. So we need to circle back with them. I mean, they gave us the rights to use it. They did it specifically for us and working with us. So we've been using it. We show it at every open house. It's posted on the City of Longmont website. It's just, can we get the permission to change it? That's exactly it. We need to have the permission rights in order to change it. And that's the clarification. So do we know who's running that at this point? No, but we can find out. Okay. Is anybody willing to take that on? Because I don't... It's on my list already. Okay, are you sure you're okay with that, Kathy? Because I don't want to add one more thing to your list. You're also on my list. I'm probably going to have to go to Michelle Wait and figure out who's in the group. So let me take care of that. That's kind of, I'll track down who it is. And then we can figure out how to approach them. Connie, I saw a hand. Yeah, just, Kathy, count me in. I can help do any footwork while I'm in town. So that'll be great. Okay. Perfect. Thank you, Connie. Thank you, Connie. Appreciate it. And because it's your voice on it too. And it's so nice. So that's a nice thing, sign it, sign it. So that covers everything on marketing and social media for me. And if anybody else has any other inputs that they would like to add to that. Again, I do think it's something that we... Just because you can Google the YouTube video doesn't mean other people know how to do that or reach that if we could make it prevalent so that they can do that virtual tour, that'd be great. And again, if we can do, have a student or whatnot do a better intro or bring it into a better thing that would be great. So I think we've got a plan at least. That's good to know. Other business. Does anybody else have any other business at this time that we need to discuss? I mean, short of me getting it up and throwing a frisbee that's really on my next slide. That's what the puppy's having the issue with. So future agenda items of donations for preservation. I just wanted to not lose track of that as we go forward with fundraising for the grant cash match and that kind of stuff that we, at some point, we need to figure out how to go about doing that. I don't think it's a today thing. I think it's a down the road thing. So I just left it on there so we didn't lose it. Okay. On that note, I did wanna just add a little thing. So donation-wise, do we have any place on the webpage itself of where the Callahan is where they can do a donation for the Callahan specifically either through RevTrack or something along those lines where they could literally just go, I'd like to donate, would you like to donate to the Callahan house for preservation or whatever else? Is there, does somebody could just donate online and we could do it through RevTrack and do like a $25 donation or whatever, something along those lines? Just to find- Well, can we even do that? That's my point. I think that's a doable thing. We talked that we can't have a donation box outside of the building itself, but we could have a QR code or something that people could put their, say, okay, and this goes to, is it possible that we could do a QR code and then when people could donate and it goes through RevTrack and we could track it that way? Is that's a thought? Where if people are using the gardens, do we help support the upkeep of the Callahan house and we have a QR code where people get their phones out and then just do a quick donation and we can go through RevTrack? Is that a possibility? I think people are doing it somehow. We just have to, we have to figure out how to do it and run it through, it's gotta go through the rec department because that's how we're following, but surely there's a way that we could put a QR code on that somewhere. If we can't put out a donation box itself, we could certainly post a little plaque with a QR code that would do a donation. Just a thought. And I know we can't go into great depth right now, but we should have that on the next agenda to see how we can do this, to make sure that we're revelant. And again, it would also help us keep count. If people are donating, even if it's an incremental amounts of $5, $10 here and there, it's every bit helps and every bit goes towards the house and that's important. Any other thoughts that people want to add to the donations for preservation that could be on future agenda? I'll talk to Suelen and we can see if there's a way to do that. That's a good idea. Okay. Anybody else can add any two cents before? I do have one other question. Yeah. If we don't have any pressing business, do we want to have a monthly meeting or should we just have a meeting when things have changed enough that we can actually do something and or there's pressing business? I'd like your opinion. I mean, obviously if we can have a meeting in person, that would be amazing and we'll just do it. But if we're going to continue in this virtual format and there's nothing new, what frequency do we want to have a meeting? Well, I think that's one of those things that we have to put to a vote. I'd like to have a discussion first. True. True. About what people's desires are. I agree. Do we make it a five monthly meeting? What do we do? Janet, what's your thoughts? Well, I was thinking that Kathy would well know if there's more information that she needs to put out. She could kind of be the judge of that to see if it's worthwhile to have a meeting. Karen Reed? Meeting for the sake of having a meeting seems kind of a time washer for a lot of people, the city, for Kathy. If Kathy knows we've got something that we need to discuss or just be updated on even, I think every other month is perfectly fine. I agree with that, Stance. I just, again, I'm a rural follower at, it's one of my faults, call it that, but I want to make sure that we're meeting our requirements. And if it's said anywhere that we are supposed to be meeting on a monthly basis, then we need to me have a clarification of vote and a vote on that matter. We can't just, Sue Ellen? Just an observation that with the length of the time of this meeting that if you're having a monthly meeting and it's less than an hour and everything said and done perhaps that would be a time to move forward in that concept. It seems like there was a lot going on today and you put proposals for future discussions that seem pretty timely and may require some thought. So I would meeting more regularly and for shorter duration it feels better than a three hour marathon every other month. Right, that makes sense. There's also the issue that we have to have our meetings set and announced so people outside in the community can become and be part of that. If we're changing our meetings around, I'm afraid I don't want anything to come across this improper or that, again, we're meeting the requirements of what the city asks of us to do even if it's a 20 or 30 minute meeting it's a 20 or 30 minute meeting and we will just go through our agenda quickly in proper order and nothing else we get to see each other just smiling faces for 20 minutes once a month. But trying to then make sure that it's broadcast out there that this is when this meeting is held this is how it's going to be. And if we cancel those, I understand there will be times where we have to cancel. I've got that. Anne Thompson, you've got your hand. Yeah, I just want to say I agree with Sue Ellen. I don't mind having a monthly meeting but I would really like to have a more set time format in other words, a hard stop. We throw an hour and a half or so. I think, figure out what we can endure and then have a hard stop. So I can set aside, okay, I have a meeting tomorrow it's going to be an hour, not, I might, because I have other things I do too and other appointments and things and it's hard if you don't know how long you're going to be at a meeting. I agree, I agree. If we could keep it to a hard stop and try to keep it under the 45 minute line, I agree. I agree with that completely. It is not unusual for our meetings to go out between an hour and hour and a half. Okay. That's pretty normal when we have real business to conduct. So I typically scheduled them from nine to 10.30. The, unfortunately the virtual meeting extends out a little bit because of the waiting room and letting people in and. Okay. And if it's less than that, it's less than that. So if we, I don't know, I just think that. Can you get that time? Yeah, we do. So unfortunately, unless it's going to come up where people are going to be out of town and there are no board members will be here. And I have been on other commissions where we've looked at like July, the Jaya meeting and everybody's going to be gone that week or the Christmas, you know, but we would do the Christmas celebrations and try to get the Christmas ornaments up and whatnot in the Carolina House. So I'm not sure how we want to approach that on that level, but if anything, I think we need to make sure that it's clearly stated and out there way in advance. If we're doing a cancellation, that's my thoughts. What are you guys? Anybody else? Okay. I guess that's all the discussion that I can think of at this time. Jen. I have a question. Are we going to get flowers planted under the sign this spring? Yes, Sam. Cool. Very cool. One or another? Yes. We have a water issue. I don't think we're going to have any trouble resolving that and it may just mean we need to hand water, but we'll figure it out. I haven't talked to Anastasia about what we're doing yet, but yes, we're going to get it planted. Cool. I would hate for you to hand water that. It gets water from the grass. Okay, good. Okay. Jared, I see your hand up. We have the proposed plan that we did two years ago when we put the sign in. So we have the proposed planting of what would go in. And I can arrange for volunteers to come and help to plant if we need. If we're going to go with a perennial plan and then put annuals in the front for color, then all we really have to do is buy the plants. And Anastasia and her crew can do the actual planting unless somebody really wants to dig. Okay, on that note, I think that's a great way to end guys, some flowers in the sign. That's personally, that's a good thing. I think this has been a great meeting. And I guess at this point, I will take a motion on adjournment. I move that we adjourn the meeting. I second. Thank you, both Janet and Ann for doing that. Appreciate it. Thanks guys. It's been great to see in your smiling faces by a Zoom, if nothing else. I look forward to when we can all meet in person again and have coffee and tea at the house itself. That would be amazing. As you can see, I think that we're all a little weary of this whole thing. I'm willing to meet mask and all if we have to. I just want to say, it's just one of those things. So, okay. Thank you. That's what we got. Thanks. Thank you. Appreciate it. Good to see y'all. Everybody have a good week. You too. Those cabins are hunting. Oh, I'm excited, so excited.