 Welcome to this week's Premier League show, being a busy all week, most teams playing two games since we were last there, there's been another Premier League second, we'll talk about that briefly in a minute, but at the top of the table Liverpool, obviously we spoke about it last week at a big game against Manchester City, if City avoided the feat it was dawn and dusk to Liverpool we thought. We both felt Liverpool could win the game, which was exactly what it was, which was exactly what happened, but the game, just the game itself, very briefly, Liverpool obviously won it one-nil Mo Salah with a goal which I've seen people say was actually handball. Yeah it was, it was clearly handball. Hit him. Knocked it went forward. Clearly. But Manchester City had had a goal this far that didn't. It was clearly a good goal. Okay. Clearly. But what did you actually think on Fowden's goal getting this far? There was nothing wrong with it. I didn't think there was anything wrong with it. There was a little bit of a drug by Haaland. But you know, that's football in it. That's just life in it. That's just life. You have to, you have to, you know, Fabina was already on the floor. I told Haaland was trying to help him up. Okay. Cos I told Fabina. That's fine. I told Fabina was already on the going down. I told Haaland just helping this kid up here. Just doing the naebly thing what you'd expect. No regions are like that. They are very fine. I mean we've seen him when they take the warm-up jacket off. He's the only one to fold it up and pass it to the kids. He's a naebly lad. He's just a nice fella. I think he was just trying to hold him up and go like don't fall over. You might get injured. You've got a bad record of getting injured. And I'm going to help you keep it down your feet. And that's all it was. And City scored about 12 minutes later. And it goes back and they just allow it. And then Liverpool get a goal through what was clearly handball. Clearly. That nobody saw, but it was clearly handball. And yeah. Just the Premier League. Just the Premier League keeping the Premier League going, innu? There you go. The script writers have done a great job again, haven't they? Absolutely amazing little bit of script. Yn o. Yr y WUWA ar y twfan hannys. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Fair play. Fair play. Liverpool fell a daraf with another win in midweek. They beat West Ham United 1-0 home. Da'w yn niwnas with the winner. West Ham missing a penalty to Yara Bowen. A sow check missing. Alas yn godshraven. A sow check missing that shot at the end. A good chance as well to get West Ham a point. But a good week for Liverpool obviously six points. Back into the mix for the top four. I don't think the league personally. But at the weekend obviously we saw Arsenal, who are still the league leaders, go to Leeds and get a big win. Yeah, and again another bit of premier script them, wasn't it? A power cut. VAR went off. And then did VAR stay off? Because Arsenal was the lead and then Leeds got a penalty. Where the play was 14 yards offside. Like they say daylight. He was a black hole. He was a black hole between him and the last defender. VAR, I mean the lines was looking, I mean he had, he literally gave him a line on the pitch. It was already there. He doesn't see it. Does go to VAR and somehow he gives it. And he's just like this is pathetic. This is a mad bit of the rule where they talk about if there's two offences in the thing, they're only looking for one. So we even though there's another one, they're not looking at it. Because we've seen this a few times. He's offside, isn't he? He's offside. He's offside. He's offside. The game stops there. And hopefully when we get the proper good technology and not these stupid fake lines, that might be put into practice. I don't have seen this this season with Aston Villa away. There's a penalty on Connor Cody. Look at the introx on that. But then it goes to Anthony Gordon who's offside. He scores. The goal's rightly disallowed because he's off. But the penalty was like one second before that. Should have been like that. It isn't only Evan. There's been other teams as well. New Castle had a pay for the good goal rule. That was it. Because the ref was looking for a foul and wasn't looking at the new deodorant angle. It is a bit mad. It's just like open your eyes. How can you not see it's offside? How can nobody on the pitch see it's offside? Ridiculous. Anyway, Patrick Banford does best and misses. Fachar gets the winner. And it's a great win for us. It's a good win. Obviously they were supposed to play City in the week. But obviously they had Europa League stuff. Big PS feed, didn't they? To sort that out as well. Manchester United, lot of talk about them. Over the weekend coming into these games we'd seen them get a winner Evan. And then followed it over the Europa League win as well. Didn't they? They had New Castle at home. On the Sunday in an eventful game. 0-0. Eventful for 0-0. Both missed lots of chances. United missed a couple of skillteds. At the end. And then they had their second game in the week. Which was against Spears who had a good win against Evan on the weekend as well. And what was a big game I think for man United was even though they'd had that like winner evidence and people were starting to go, you know, can they get on a run? They then draw with New Castle. And no New Castle do well at home, but a lot of people would have expected United to beat New Castle. But then they go to Spears and they say, can you beat a team who are in really good form? And they come up to some should they? And then they're getting 2-0. Excellent result for them. A 2-0 victory. But a lot of, inevitably, there was a lot of talk after the game about Cristiano Ronaldo. Fred and Bruno Fernandez got the United goals, but Ronaldo, Fred and Bruno Fernandez, are they a couple? They're a couple. Ladies and gentlemen, can I welcome Fred and Bruno Fernandez? They're thinking of releasing a song, like very much the Chas and Dave. They didn't have the same second name, Chas and Dave though. Anyway, I've got to go through Fred's real name. Fred Fernandez? 31 names. It's a man though on all of that stuff. But obviously a lot has come out of this Cristiano walking down a tunnel while the game is still going on, cos he wasn't coming on. At the time, he wasn't coming on, so he went into the draw, which I was fine with. But the reality is, he rejected coming on the pitch. And he's been kicked out of the squad for this weekend's game. And I think he might have played his last game from Manchester United. I was just going to say, when that happens, is there any way back? If a manager says to you, get ready to come on. You know, we need you there, you're coming on. If you go to Chelsea at the weekend in a big game in our five-shot tonight, you know, we need you. Get ready, you're coming on for the last three, four, five, six minutes, whatever. And you say no, I'm not. How do you come back from that? I don't think he does. I think he's been kicked out of the squad, clearly. The manager's come out and said that. The manager's laid down his authority. I think that's really important. There'll be three Premier League games after this. I think there must be Europa League games as well, mustn't they? So they might be opportunities. Then you've got the World Cup. Then you would imagine anyone who plays in the World Cup will get a week off or so. And then the wind is open. I think he might go. I think he might cancel his contract. I don't think this can go on. I don't think he's wanted. He doesn't want him. He doesn't think he wants to be there. He wants to play Champions League football, which he still can. I think this is the end for him. OK, listen. He might still play games, but I think this is the end. The beginning of the end, isn't it? I don't think it's even the beginning of the end. The beginning of the end was in the summer. I think this is just the end. If you refuse to come on and you're saying you're bigger than the club, then the club has to put its foot down. Ten Hag. This is where this managerial create really starts up. Manchester United deal with a player like Ronaldo and shown people. This is where I think United have fell in the last couple of years is. Solskjaer tried to do it, but then the signing of Ronaldo undermined. Everything get rid of Lukaku. He wants to pop that out. I think when they broke Ronaldo in, it basically reset it all and it was like, I've got no power now. If Ten Hag is going to have any power, which I think he will have, I know the people are going to respect the manager and you're going to get that discipline. Then I think you have to get rid of Ronaldo. I don't know where he'll go, but I do think this is very much the end. 700 create goals, so to make that call. He's still a big player for them, but obviously the manager's got to set down his own rules and if you don't abide by them. He's already been a bit of ding dong between them anyway. Oversat in the things, hasn't he? He had a little spot with Rangic as well, didn't he, Brentford last year and stuff. He's never, he's gone back then, even though he's done really well. He's never seemed like he's fully settled, but he has been it. Obviously an unbelievable footballer over on the playlist on 888 Sport. They've been talking about the best ever for and important in the Premier League and surely Christiano Ronaldo is in that conversation, but let's hear what they have to say. Do you remember when Mike Lohan won the FA Cup? No, hold on, hold on. He won everything. Don't even talk. Cos you're trying to squeeze in drog for you, but there's no squeezing in when it comes to this. I'm happy to get this number as fourth, but he's not getting above a guero to me. You've just got it a hump. I ain't worried. He's number one, you even got him number one. You've got the hump because I just gave a little dig to Chary O'Rheen Jess because I say Freddie Lungbone is a better big-game player. You've now tried to get me back by being snyd on a drog boss. This isn't just being unbelievable of footballers coming from abroad, as in foreign countries. We've had some tremendous players. Terry Henry, the subject of that was unbelievable. I don't know what. Rory, but we have to approach with caution with Rory cos you know, Harland doesn't disrespect anyone else with Harland. He's not going to struggle. Listen to Terry Henry, he was unbelievable, but Cristiano Rinaldo, he just mentioned 700 Cregals. You can go back and talk about you know, didy-eyed drog be. Kevin De Bruin, I think it's unbelievable what an export and import he's been. But from an evident perspective, just very quickly, who do you think's being the best foreign import ever? Cos everyone's like, I can tell you, but it wasn't here very long, was it? See for me, there's one name, but I don't know technically whether you can say this is an import. It was Tim Cale. He's not. We bought them from Millwall and they never bought them from anywhere. His grandad was a Millwall fan who basically brought them over from Australia and took them to the training ground and gave them a go. I think it's a bit more than that, but yeah. But he is Australian. Sort of. And nobody should never really have played for Australia. Should have played for one of the islands, shouldn't he? But I think it's Tim Cale for 1.5 million or whatever it was. It's not even just Evan, I think for one of the best imports, for what he did in the Premier League was unbelievable. For pure value for money, absolutely. Has never thrown him. It's a good shout. Evan, I've got quite a few good ones. But again, people like Le Carr who's brilliant for Evan, but she come from Chelsea and those kind of things. I was love Stephen Pinar. Thank you, fantastic for Evan. Michael Arthetta was good for Evan as well. There's other ones, Pinar as well. But value for money and goals and then obviously all the stuff he did at the Well Cup which built your profile as well. Cale is a good shout. Who would you say, very quickly, Premier League Henry? I think Henry was just unbelievable. Better than Aldo? I played longer than the Premier League. I think Henry was unbelievable. Only was fantastic. I think he played his best football in the Premier League. That's a good shout. Drop of is good though. No, drop of was unbelievable. Drop of was unbelievable. Considering he came from Marseille and he was not really anything... His goalscoring record wasn't amazing and he came a little bit later in his career. He was unbelievable and became like the how a player on his own should play up front. But no, I'd say Henry. I think he just... Only was fantastic. What do you make of Spares then quickly? He obviously beat Everton there. I mean, he could have been sooner down against Everton funnily enough the way the game went but followed it up with that. A disappointment in the feet for them, I think. I think that was a tough game. Going to Old Stafford was always a tough game. Man, you know what I think are better than people say. Better than what people think they are. I think they're a little bit more workman like this season. I think that's what it is. They do look a little bit disjointed but they've got brilliant individuals. You can just win a game. I think the more work he does the better the better. I think Martinis is going to turn up to be one of the best players. I still think you can get Aaron but he is a good player. I think people don't quite understand how good he is and therefore they don't think he's going to be as good as he is so therefore he makes him better. I think he's a really good player. He doesn't forget that he lost the opening two games of the season and he doesn't think he played in either of them and then the only other game he lost is City. Did he play at Brentford? He got out-jumped for one of the set pieces and everyone said he was garage. He was horrendous at Brentford. You have to adapt and he has that person. Can of Arrow. He's lost one game since then and that's the city. Brentford was August the 7th in August, August 15th so he's lost one game since then but I was just going to say then Can of Arrow was one of the best centre backs we've had in the last 25, 30 years and he wasn't that tough and he lifted the world cup. For Spades they keep ticking along when they've got to pick it back up. They'll be again factor bullies most of the time. What do you think with that? Obviously you've got Arsenal, Tottenham Man City in Chelsea under Potter. People keep saying this is his biggest test this game and he's got to take time for his full things to work what he actually wants to achieve but he went to Villa Sunday and got a 2-0 win and then he went to Brentford in midweek and I thought he'd followed this up with a victory because Brentford had been a bit wobbly and he ended up throwing it. I mean again, we've had loads of opportunities in the first half and it was a mings mistake that leads to the goal and a greif freak rich by Mason Mount. Brentford have got back to winning ways this week haven't he? He won on Friday night didn't he? And then obviously he followed up with Chelsea at the time of Chelsea and I think Chelsea are exactly where I think a lot of people probably thought it would be this season I think Potter's doing it. Obviously none of them are at his place and he's keeping things ticking over I think I mean look at Brighton they've lost two of their last three games they haven't scored since the 3-3 all at Liverpool that was basically the Potter team wasn't it and then he's gone full with Peter Manors very quickly he's made it his team very very quickly hasn't he and now they can't score goals again Yeah I think Chelsea would be alright but Man United Chelsea this weekend will be a fantastic look where they both are so that will be really interesting one. I mean looking at the next couple of places isn't it? I mean Newcastle that in sixth on 18 points very where I'm a like getting jobs not conceiving goals Got a Gioro Taffer beat Heaven on Wednesday night four points out of two difficult games Only lost one game this season No they're doing alright I think it's Liverpool 97th minute on it so they solid enough Liverpool now up into 7th like you said before Brighton you just mentioned they've started the season really well I've hit a little bit of a brick wall haven't you No goals Stop scoring We know that teams you can't score have had it a little bit tough to win games Exactly We did mention before should just mention Fulham they were doing really well on the mark of silver 15 points on the games but we did mention before there's been a shachan in Steven Gerrard became the latest manager he was the favourite to be shach this week but he was losing 3-0 of Fulham as obviously he was never surviving they were 1-0 down Do you think though didn't you get a new contact Lewis this last week Do you think though it's a case of I know they got beat by Chelsea but they did alright Do you have double 8 times of gold Chelsea Do you think that it might be a case of not only obviously they're not doing well and the fans are getting a little bit angry but the timing might be there's a couple of good managers out there that if we really really go after and now there's been talked a potchettine doesn't want it and there's talked a tushel doesn't want it but do you think the fact that they're out there without jobs has made Villa think you know what we get rid of him now we push really hard and we get someone in therefore somebody can work with them a nice little pre-season and that might be the reason I don't think they've got any chance of getting either of those No, no, both No, no, there'll be other managers won't surprise me if they've got a new now, spiritous and honest No, but it just means an experienced manager who's out there who would be very interested in going there, I imagine and just don't see I don't see Thomas Tuchel going to Villa definitely potchettine now I just don't see him he's saying that I'm probably better shoot a job than that so far I think just jumping into another one he's not sure on I don't think that'll happen but it wouldn't you know he's available unless they go you know they try to get someone up and coming but I think if they're going to try to get another up and coming manager or they're going to try and get someone they've got to I suppose you've got to just give them a chance to to bed in or give them a chance to do what they're doing you've got to decide, I think, what you want to do Villa, I think obviously their owners have made some big statements over the last couple of years of what we're doing this, very much like Evan you know where maybe it's just a case of love, we're getting someone in we're going to back him and build and we're going to take a slightly different approach I think what's difficult though is that look at Wolves they've been to three different managers now and Villa are chasing the next one it's like managers might be thinking I'm alright where I am and I'm trying to build a profile what tends to happen is clubs go we want the next big thing, the next big thing isn't ready and then they jump in it that's always been the sort of green potter we looked at him a couple of times and people are going we think he's ready and then there's question marks and Chelsea have took the gamble because it did feel like it was the right time so you've got to look at these things I mean Michael Bay will be interested in one because he's rejected Wolves but he was at Villa so would they go and say you know this place, you know some of the players would you be interested now he might be going I've got a job at QPR or he might have even sensed that he's going to come up so maybe he would be one but maybe people are going I've got to go into that job at the right time otherwise I will fail as well and then maybe having a little bit more of a think about it you've got to have a think I personally think the times come where people have stopped just taking jobs do you know what I mean just for the sake of it I think if you're a manager looking at Aston Villa you go well hang on Dean Smith got them up Dean Smith had three bad results on the runners up and four bad results on the gone despite being a Villa fan fans like him can't speak for every Villa fan but they didn't seem to be a clamoring to get rid of Dean Smith then they got Gerard he was the next big thing and he's coming and he's had worries less than a year there and he's out so who's the next one then to come in do you like isn't it the thing of like isn't it that isn't it that thing of like you want the next you spend money you over hype yourself because you know that you are a traditional big club and then you want the next the next big name I mean should Stephen Gerard have really got the village off the back of what he's done but but he's won a trophy at Rangers and that's what people would say he had an opportunity when six trophies when he was at Rangers he won one in Scotland so really didn't have the no and I'm just saying for then we was young man if his name was Joch Mac Tavish would you have got the job sounds good name but would you have got the job the answer is no I'll just tell you that right now now it is that thing what I find really interesting what the Premier League at the moment is and this is way part of this you've got Everton, Villa and Leeds all next to each other now I know those two teams have just I've come back up in the last like four or five years Leeds this is the third year in the Premier League back in the Premier League we're all on Everton including this we're all trying to find our identity and trying to do things the same way the big boys do it right which is to spend money and find but we're trying to find Jochus, we're Everton we're Leeds, we're Villa it just ain't going to work anymore so therefore it is completely different now we can't I know Villa have spent a hell of a lot of money but that's the problem you cannot spend enough money Randy Lane anew this 10 years ago or 15 years ago you cannot do this we cannot do what they do we have to do what Brentford are doing and Brighton and the mad thing is we've got more advantages than them but what we can't do as football clubs is get out of our own way because the pressure from the fans and then you're not full on Michael Silver being left to do the job, it's full on there's no expectations, he's brought them up and he's just keeping things going and there aren't any expectations therefore 15.5 more than Everton he's doing a great job that's the difference our expectations of being Everton Villa and Leeds are ridiculously high but have no merit to them in the way that it is now and that's what we as football clubs have to realise and that's why really we shouldn't be employing or they shouldn't be employing a Frank Lampard or Steven Gerard Frank Lampard is a little bit different because he did go to Darwin slightly different but that's why you have to look at things slightly different I think now Leeds fair play to them and looked completely out the box and getting Jesse March fair play to them they've looked completely out the box that was important if Leeds had gone in and made the mistake of bringing in against some name some ex footballer and giving them a chance even at being a John Terry or even like a Wayne Rooney like that they would have fallen into the scene trapping away so what Villa do next is massively important if they go down the route they've been going on in the last year or so they'll get it wrong they have to look at themselves and say yes we're a big football club but we're not we're going to finish now I absolutely agree if they for them go and get someone like Potatino that again it's a bit like ever with Auntie Lottie you go and get someone who's big name but you can't, your football club isn't at that level so Potatino's had spares but he's had spares and champions league then he's been linked with like Man United's job now he's gone to PSG hasn't done a good job at PSG has to be said they come to Villa and then all of a sudden he's gone to Southampton when he was there again will he do that the same Trusill ain't going, Trusill's had Dortmund he's had PSG he's had Chelsea he's not going to Villa right now Villa with eighth ninth with a big pot of money maybe and also you can sell it by the teams as well Leeds I think are slightly different I probably shouldn't have thrown Leeds in the mix because they aren't doing it like us but I'm just judging by the league but Villa they've done it in a way whatever they've done in a way if they were to get a big manager or a big name manager like we did we got Anciolotti and then there's certain expectations then so Anciolotti wants Hamas Rodríguez and then Hamas Rodríguez comes with Champions League money because why would I sign for you why would I sign for Evan but I want Champions League money if you want me I want a Champions League money Villa have made the same mistake with Catino the manager's gone we need a big name we need someone who's going to shake this place up and it's going to be an example to everybody else I want Catino you get him alone he does all right didn't do bravely and then you go we're having him we're paying the money and we're paying the wages the manager can't succeed because the rest of the team are very average footballers working like that the main thing about it is Villa have players in that squad like Buendia who is probably as good as Catino on a lot less wages and they paid buttons for him from Norwich and it's like why did you why did you need to get and this is where I'm talking about that thing of needing a big club we need to have big name players that have passed their sell by day but that's insane they could have stuck with Buendia and got as much if not more out of him then they got another stuck with Catino on probably what a 2, 3, 4 year contract on big wages and the manager brought him in isn't there anymore and that's the problem that club is like Everton and Villa and Leeds Face is that if you do not get it right and you go over the top you are stuck where you are these are slightly different to me no I know I just thought because there's favours in a row effectively in the table no it's interesting less that just to finally you know Brendan Rodgers have been under unbelievable amount of pressure Dave Elton so far there was he didn't beat Leeds he was going to get shocked but he got the win he won 2-0 this second win of the season and Forrest got into a new goal and Javi Barnes with the goal that game was incredible half an hour in it was new needed to even have an attempt to goal but it was one nil Celeste which was mad and nothing in Forrest have picked another point up but they do look in trouble as well so very very interesting Arsenal head the top and as we look at the table so Arsenal doon nere it's going to be interesting there's what 4 games to go before the break bring that break on baby bring it on and we'll see what happens there you go Leeds on what you think in a comment section don't forget to get over to 888 Sports give the playlist a watch and put your comment in subscribe to it as well tell them why it's Tim Kale or whoever you think write it down in the comments if you want to let us know who your importer or Mark Cuttinger right, we're going, see you later